Thread 105870951

>16GB RAM is just too little these days

Uhh, what? Last time I blinked it was 8 GB with 4 GB still being barely enough.

The way I see it, developers are absolute assholes who don't optimize their products because it's easier to make us buy more RAM since "it's so cheap anyway so who cares?"
Goddamn. This wouldnt of flown back in the day. I remember when 4 GB was enough for like a decade. Now Firefox and Overwatch double their RAM consumption every year like it was a traditoin.

My HP Proliant rack server has 18 GB RAM which was _fucktons_ back when I built it.
It's funny how the average consumer now has more than my industrial grade server machine.

>>105870951 (OP)
32GB is minimal in 2025.

>>105871180
Yeah for poorfags, I got 64 GB for 4chan + Discord use.

You're in luck

>>105871180
*if developer or offline lolli gen pedo

>>105871230
Sad as fuck pic. I will die alone.

>>105870951 (OP)
optimization is not the same as compression.
uncompressed data runs faster, therefore making the program more optimized.

so you WANT larger programs

>>105871180
True, but RAM is so cheap these days you may as well go for 64GB or more. And that's RAM with good timings. If, for some stupid reason, you don't care about the spec you can get 96GB for $165. Hilariously cheap. Even cheaper if you opt for 4 sticks instead of the usual 2.

>>105870951 (OP)
You need like 32GB or some shit like that to compile an android ROM or a Firefox binary. Since like 2015.

My glorious 2500k accepts 32GB, by the way. I swapped it out for a 2500 THOUGH

A 64GB stick is like 50 bucks.
If you had something like 2GB in 2008 and you follow moores law in a stupid way, you should aim for about 256GB to 1024GB this year.


PS: Contrary to popular belief, normletten don't matter.

>>105871245
nandenaheeee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

chuck on the log

>8gb
Hey gramps get with the times

>>105871810
fast compression and decompression algorithms are faster than memory bandwidth which is why every OS uses compressed memory these days

>>105871924
>>105871975
>RAM is so cheap
You're forgetting the cost of the DDR4/DDR5-compatible motherboard and CPU

>>105871924
>dude [thing] is so cheap you may as well...
I'll stop you right here
16 GB is fine for non-professional use and it works with most videogames
Keep buying it like a good bitch customer and next thing you'll know your browser will use up 1GB of RAM/tab

From a local retailer
8.3% of laptops on sale have 4GB
While 20.6% have 8GB

There are still a significant amount of laptops on sale with 8GB or less and will cover only more basic use cases over time

I had 16gb of ram in 2011

>>105873129
windows 10 was unusable with 4 gigs a decade ago, how is that shit still being sold?

>16GB is way too little
>32GB is way too much
>24GB is not funny, my brother died that way

128GB is minimal in 2025.

>>105870951 (OP)
16gb was plenty just 4 years ago. I was sitting at 8gb used with 1000 tabs up (exhentai mostly) now it's constantly choking at 15-15,5gb and it is because of YOUTUBE, eating 300-1000mb ram per video

>>105874400
16 hasn't been enough for serious work for years

>>105870951 (OP)
512mb is fine if you turn on swap which is the same as it was in 2005. You turned off swap ten years ago and forgot about it.

>>105874641
This also ram is pretty affordable in many cases if you just wait before buying you can get 64gb right now for dirt cheap and 32 is as much as 16 used to be back in the day

>>105870951 (OP)
My dad still uses a PC with 4GB RAM. He does his office work along with light browsing / email just fine.

>>105870951 (OP)
Man, 16GB still enough to these days.

>>105870951 (OP)

return to 32bit?

>>105874839
4GB is enough for one or two light weight pages in Firefox on Chrome and maybe something like a text editor.

>Buying RAM
>Not just growing your own

>>105870951 (OP)
>Don't worry. You can still browse facebook and 4chan on $100 chromebooks

A child with a lemonade stand could finance his RAM purchase to stay ahead of the game with how cheap RAM has been. You don't upgrade it yearly, not even biyearly. You can easily get away with doubling every 5y or longer, and even that's overkill unless you're a heavy power user. The cost of even a 128GB kit over 5 years is less than a AAA game lmao. Hell 128GB right now would easily last you long enough to probably see DDR6 or DDR7. You need to just learn to budget if you're having issues with RAM costs.

>>105871230
Man. Why post this. I don't even have a crush right now and this filth ruined my day because it will ruin the days of a lot of people.

The majority apps are only a little more bloated than they were years ago, quite a few have stagnated in memory use. It's the web that's becoming bloated faster than average RAM can increase. They just don't care because they buy a new $6000 Macbook every year and dumb shit normies expect every web page to be full of annoying gimmicks that are expensive to render.

Twitch itself, as in the web site, is much more CPU intensive than the HD video streams it hosts, even without hardware accelerated video. Let that sink in.

>>105871180
I just had to upgrade my mom's laptop to something that would support 16GB. I think that's the bare minimum these days. Without it even casual use of the modern fucking web means its pagefiling the ssd to death.

>>105875266
Web developers are hilariously inept, having dipped into their code myself to unfuck it multiple times.

>>105870951 (OP)
If you were to load a VM on your machine containing W10/W11 you'll want to have another 16GB to spare for it, so I'd consider 32GB the minimum. Having more than 16GB means you can setup a ramdrive to use for intermediate writes on data that hasn't been finalized, i.e. I'll dump a blu-ray, but it takes up 24GB. If I have 64GB or more I can dump first to the ramdrive then reencode the video to something more compact on SSD/HDD without incurringthe wear of the first 24GB. I want 128, but I can get by with 64. If I had 128 or more I could load a 45-60GB image of W10/W11 entirely in ram (as virtual storage) and still have 16GB to spare as runtime memory. You might think I'll lose the data on powerloss, but that is useful for a lot of reasons. Disposable sandbox VMs are useful for testing things you don't want polluting the host machine, i.e. VS community is bloated garbage, I don't want the registry entries to stay once I get rid of it, if I put that thing in a VM I can store it on a regular drive in the long term then mount it from ram/delete it when I'm finished. Realistically you'd want 168GB or more for that type of thing because VS in storage alone takes up 20-40GB.

>>105877598
Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 1 roll per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.

I got 48gb in my pc plus the 12gb graphics card. By comparison my iPhone 16 pro has 8gb shared.

I hope to get a rtx 5090, then maybe in a year get a faster 64gb ram kit.

>>105870951 (OP)
32 Gigs is barely enough now. The way I see it is that rich fags and shitty coders are ruining the PC space. Rich fags will buy whatever retarded shit big tech is pushing if it has an Nvidia logo on it, and big tech will always make something more powerful instead of firing a shitty coder. Yeah, you can run a pc on a 4GBs, but don't expect to run games bigger than a fucking PS2 game. But hey, God forbid you get you less than 120 FPS on "Call of Black ops 5: The same shit from last Year"

>>105871180
I replaced my broken 16Gb sticks to 32Gb, and my gentoo box with all programs open still uses the same 8Gb as before. Was a silly purchase.

>>105871219
>only 64 GB for 4chan + Discord
poorfag lmao