Thread 105875844

This is a Brazilian outlet, a new one (but could be an old one).
It can be 110v, it can be 220v, only god, joão the pedreiro that did the house and the curupira behind the wall know, and you must play your brand new 300 dollars Tectoy Master system.
So how do you solve it?

>>105875844 (OP)
Ours look like little smiley faces and they're always 120 volts no matter what. But I think brazilians just like playing around with voltage so I'm not sure it's a problem for them.

>>105875850
We previously had this, but we voted a woman as president and she changed our outlets for no reason.

>>105875844 (OP)
>So how do you solve it?
I don’t have to solve it, literally every device is suitable for 100…240V input

Kneel.

>>105875844 (OP)
Don't move to Brazil. Problem solved.

plug a multimeter into the socket? or a smart plug with power metering, as these also show the voltage

>>105875844 (OP)
>It can be 110v, it can be 220v
It depends on the city (stupid that it's not a single standard) and you should know what it is where you live.

>>105875844 (OP)
the new brazilian standard is actually the most safe, europe had plans to switch to a similar (based on the same standard) in the 90s but they droped the idea, too costly.
https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/n/
>Thanks to modern injection moulding technology, which did not exist when most other plug types were originally designed, the very recent type N standard is more compact, robust and safe than any other plug/socket system in the world.
>>105875959
disgusting, i bet it handles like shit, the type C/europlug have the best handle with its hexagonal form, type N has backwards compatibility with the type C.

>>105876090
we should have enforced the superior 220/60hz everywhere, instead we let the companies do as their please during the 20 century, fucking hell.

>>105876125
And if they decide to unify it now, it'll probably be 110 because of fuckin São Paulo and Rio.

>>105875844 (OP)
220V outlets are red colored when properly installed
When they aren't, you can test with those things or similar:

>>105876090
This is the "official voltages", most houses just have both by combining phases like the US.
It's needed for the showers.

>>105876161
they will never enforce a single one, it would be unfeasible nowdays.
instead of enforcing a single voltage, we can force all electronics vendors to be dual voltage, thus giving control to the local resident who would choose between 220 and 110, i think this is the best move since we like it or not the country is bivolt, but it would also never happen because the electronic sellers woudnt want to it.

if this is some major issue in your nation wouldn't you just buy a $5 dollar voltage tester?

>>105876364
Brazilians rather complain to the government than use a simple solution, like how they push to end firework noise instead of buying $1 earplugs for themselves and their dogs

>>105875844 (OP)
buy a $10 dollars outlet tester

>>105875959
:D

>>105876433
>>105876169
Yes, that's probably the most "efficient way".

>>105875864
what's the fourth pin for?

>>105876466
To stick your dick into

>>105876466
Live.
None of the pins are ground, its just two neutrals and two lives.

>>105875844 (OP)
put the three holes in a line and make it reversible

>>105876466
its type C / type A compatible outlet, it was common before standardisation of type N.

>>105876090
feels good to live in a developed city

>>105876433

that thing might give 20 volts for car battery are you sure

*mogs every analog video standard*

>>105877009
Pal-merda, I still remember not being able to make an old tv work with a Pal/NTSC converter

>>105877037
Was an actual pal-M converter?
Pal M is a standard that combines the 59.97hz of NTSC with pal color encoding, basically getting the best of both worlds.

>>105878418
It doesn't have the higher resolution PAL countries have.

Anything besides Schuko is not needed and shit

>>105875844 (OP)
>300 dollars Tectoy Master system.
Kek real
They don't even get the good games like wonder boy

>>105875844 (OP)
Why don't they simply use square prongs for the lower voltage? That allows the hybrid and high-voltages to be plugged into the low-voltage sockets (nothing will happen) while preventing low-voltage-only devices from getting fried.

>>105876090
What a fucking disaster of a country Brazil is.

>>105875844 (OP)
How can a Brazilian household pick its own voltage without a transformer?
No one is putting a transformer in a home so your voltage is declared by the state since the state supplies power retard.
What a non issue.
Are you American? Cause only an ignorant American or one trying to cope with their inferior 110v would make such a post

>>105875864
>>105876603
>Live.
>None of the pins are ground, its just two neutrals and two lives.
That just sounds retarded

>>105876245
>This is the "official voltages", most houses just have both by combining phases like the US.
>It's needed for the showers.
You guys have to power your showers!? So backwards

>>105878493
You've never seen the classic brazillian shower?

>>105878418
so PAL-60? it's the best for video games because most games are made for NTSC. PAL-60 gives you the timings (refresh rate, resolution) of NTSC with superior PAL colour encoding. regular PAL is better for movies though, as the 24>25fps speedup looks better than the telecine NTSC has, along with higher resolution

>>105878418
It was PAL/NTSC, no clue which specific version of PAL but no colors showed up
Didn't know why before but after your post everything makes sense

>>105878574
>the chuveirinho thing looking like a penis

>>105878493
>>105878574
>high middle class brazilian
>buys high end shower, still electric since I'm not rich
>actually super comfy, complex temperature control
>the electronics are so heavy it breaks and falls on my head

>>105878574
>Where might this green wire go to?
>Uh... no clue, only two in the wall
>Well maybe I should connect it to GROUND
>Nah, air is good

>>105878776
It's a ventilation wire, dumbass.

>>105878488
>That just sounds retarded
Hence the woman president.

>>105878418

i might have panasonic vhs player with said function my sony trinitron played well untill cap loosen some smoke it is literal trash

>>105878792
For them corona discharges yes? Who doesn't love the smell of Ozone during showering.

>>105878797
>we need to stock up wind
>for the galaxy of rio de janeiro
>praise the cassava!

>>105878761
>Photoshop level: Temur

>>105876090
lmao, buying electronics must be a mess.

>>105875844 (OP)
Bom dia, senhor.
Here (PR) the 220v outlets are red. I don't need to do macumba do find out the voltage...
I guess that's a (you) problem.

>>105876277
just a idea
if solar becomes widespread maybe we could have 2nd set of wiring that's DC only

decentralized grid meme too

>>105878912
You can't run transformer on DC.
Every supplier has to provide exact same voltage.
You need to upgrade the infrastructure with a second set of wires.

>>105878981
>You can't run transformer on DC.
Almost nothing these days runs a transformer directly from mains AC. Most power supplies are SMPS, and the first thing an SMPS does is rectify the incoming AC into DC.

>>105879013
So you're going to replace these with SMPS on DC.
Ok.

>>105878981
>>105879013
i was thinking they could just short run it to only aircon units etc
It's more of a inside the house use only thing to cut AC usage

>>105879062
That's relevant to internal solar DC wiring in your house, how?

>>105879062
again think decentralized grid
maybe a battery every block or few since they cost a ton for 1 person

no need for conversion

>>105879148
>>105879159
How many people on the average country can own a house and at the same time replace all the wiring to install DC sockets next to the AC public net sockets?

>>105879105
>>105879489

>>105876090
how the hell you guys ended with a more retarded system than the japs?

>>105878574
>>105878761
ok, tell me about the stick. i assume it's some kind of control, but i can't make out a pattern between these images

>>105878574
wireless ground our new technology!
>>105879918
during the electrification of the country in the XX century, government didn't endorse a single voltage letting the companies do as they please, the american companies installed 110/60hz and the euro companies 220/60hz.
>some insight on the blue zone
all the houses in the blue zone have 220v too, they are provided in a 2 fase scheme to power certain electronics while 110v is meant to power most devices.
>about japan
its 100v 50/60hz, its not really a mess in comparassion, but they ended up with that because of similar things.

>>105878445
But it don't have the flicker ass shit 50hz with worse overall motion.

>>105878826
That's a "joão o pedreiro" problem.

>>105875844 (OP)
>and you must play your brand new 300 dollars Tectoy Master system.
>So how do you solve it?
What doesn't come with a universal voltage power supply?

>>105880806
You turn it to lower or raise the temperature

>>105882862
I have a feeling anon doesn't know how much 300 dollars is

>>105878452

yes shuko have you read med computer power systems makes you thirsty

>>105875864
2 neutrals, 2 lives, no grounds, and (at a glance) not compatible with Europlug? No wonder she changed the outlets.
>>105875959
picrel.
>>105878912
Then you have to put twice as much copper in the walls. When an inverter is 95% efficient, that doesn't make much sense. Tesla won and Edison lost, but living with the consequences isn't that hard anymore.

>>105878574
>>105878761
I'm br*zilian and I've never seen an electric shower
feels good not being a favela monkey

>>105881464
>euro companies 220/60hz.
>euro
>60hz
wut?

>>105883150
>laggy as fuck shower

>>105883150
Lemme guess, you live on one of those gated communities where you have a few 5 stories buildings, and are mass produced to the point you have pamphlets everywhere saying
>more no residencial apartamento dos cus o sonho da sua vida!
Living on rent or having paid in 90 installments through Caixa Econômica Federal, where everyone think they are rich, but constantly fight to use the pool and barbecue stuff

>>105883259
Lemme guess, you're an amerimutt

>>105883267
How would an american guy know about this, João de Xique-Xique Bahia?

>>105883259
no, I live in a high rise apartment building so I can look down at people like you from my balcony

>>105875844 (OP)
>try 220v first
>shit does not work, set to 110v

Most "device deaths by 220v" happens because people forget that there are 220v outlets and just assume it will work.

>>105883259
Fucking kek, every time.

>>105878824
They're all bivolt...

>>105883150
You must be +18 to use 4chan, gentalha.

>>105883306
Poor anon lives on those Rio de Janeiro buildings that are constantly falling for some reason...

>>105883150
kys cuck
>>105883030
it IS compatible with europlug, are you blind?
>>105883180
If id have to guess i think they enforced the 60hz later on. tesla envisioned that the best AC would be 240v60hz, the superior choice, europa only uses 50hz because of a german company spread it early on and become standard.

>>105883506
>>105883467
electricels are mad today

>>105883506
my gut always said that we should have gone with 100hz
its a metric base 10 system after all

>>105883521
Cope

>>105883968
Replacing your outlet by those and doing the adequate job of labeling is a white man's duty.

But i doubt this will ever happen in some barbaric shithole like rio de janeiro.

>>105884962
this work isnt very costly effective on your wallet and time. for me its either every eletronic is dual volt or all the outlets are one voltage (country wide adoption).

>>105885071
I seem people just put stickers with the voltage of the outlet.

>>105885108
same, but you missed the point, getting dual volt outlets is an extra work with cables (youll need extra money for more cables and time to set up the outlets).

>>105876100
>new brazilian standard is actually the most safe
except the fact that they took an existing standard, that was already in use by another country, and made a non-compliant variation of it. Also y’all still don’t ground things properly, so extremely likely that despite having ground pins there’s actually no grounding at all.

>>105883968
Came here to post this.

>>105885406
the standard was just there, we took it and adapt to our own needs, now we have the best plug in the world, based innit?

>>105885615
>>105885632
nice fireworks

>>105885671
This friend does not like to be dry, and it's a "consumable".

>>105885564
nah, based would have taken an existing standard and enforcing proper compliance so you could Build Back Better, instead you've just found a new way to fuck everything up.

works on my machine (home).

>>105875844 (OP)
>It can be 110v, it can be 220v, only god, joão the pedreiro that did the house and the curupira behind the wall know
why do this

>>105875864
>All the retards not understanding it's a euromerican outlet instead of some dumb shit like 2 grounds

>>105885909
The theory is that 220v, specially a dual phase one is more dangerous than 110v, so you would only have 220V outlets in places where you going to use high voltage appliances like the kitchen.

In practic:, HUEHUEHUEHEUHEUEHUEHEUHEU RANDOM 220V HERE HUEHUEHUEHUEHEUE

>>105884281
I have the white man's shower, you are the one coping with electric garbage

>>105886284
>white men have to turn on the heater separately and wait 10 minutes in shower before the hot water actually come

>>105885945
that seems super dangerous. I expect a lot of the installs are just done by local everymans.

>>105886313
Exactly, what in Brazil is called a "pedreiro".

>>105886321
>pedreiro
We would call them masons or experts. Sorry yours are bad.

>>105886301
you don't have to keep saying you are a poor favela monkey
it turns on immediately with the water

>>105886343
"Masons or experts" we call "engenheiro civil" here, the higher tier stuff from contract companies etc..
Pedreiro is just a illiterate handyman that is cheaper to hire.
They can do things like walls etc well, but people feel like cheaping out and ask em to do everything.

>>105886301
No, because the white man invented hot water recirculation systems. And the yellow man just puts a on demand water heater in the bathroom itself.

>>105876090
>that much on 127v
>115v
what the fuck

>>105886493
North and west are populational voids, but São Paulo, Minas Gerais and Paraná (all by the coast) are very dense in population.
115v and dual voltage cities are indeed very cursed.

>>105885615
>>105885632
why the fuck can't macacos use these?
works for east yurop

>>105885632
>>105878574
this is for extreme poorfags. like people in jamaica who have to boil hot water to use in the shower.

>>105886301
>>white men have to turn on the heater separately and wait 10 minutes in shower before the hot water actually come
we white men do this if it's a small tank in the bathroom
>>105886487
>hot water recirculation systems
right, EVROPEAN houses with a central water heater all have this, you cannot buy a big water heater without recirc hookups on it
so american retards don't do it and go buy tankless shit instead thinking going thru 20m of pipe is still gonna be instant... LMAO

>>105886720
Unironic poverty; These showers can be installed with minimum cost beyond running a line (usually parasiting a nearby electric outlet) and if they break, it can be easily replaced. Also, electricity is costly in Brazil, so running a themoacumulator even for a few hours could become prohibitively expensive, especially as many only use warm showers during the colder months.
>But this is cheap, better, and safer.
Yes, but we're too poor and retarded.

I don't want to be reminded that Brazil exists, and I don't care what happens there.

>>105875844 (OP)
>So how do you solve it?
move to a country that doesn't use multiple fucking voltage standards

>>105886788
bro we slavniggers would mount those straight above the bathtub so you turn it on outside the bathroom (these are notoriously hard to press) till its warmed up them turn it off and shower
>Yes, but we're too poor and retarded.
clearly because this is a 1000000000x safety increase over those things, how much do they cost? a wallmount 80l water heater like that is $100-150

>>105886720
looks just as cheap as any electric shower out there but id rather have >>105878761, is too hot here.

>>105886870
why are you fuckers so allergic to hot water piping?
I don't have none of that bullshit in my bathrooms only a mixer

>>105886720
99% of Brazil is warm the entire year, there isn't really any need to heat running water since the temperature never drops below zero. Warm showers are only for comfort (and not a necessity) and a lot of people prefer taking cold showers, so the cope/compromise was creating electrical showers for that purpose.

>>105886788
>cheap, better, and safer.
doubt.png
>clearly because this is a 1000000000x safety increase over those things
when properly installed electric shower are damn safe, the problem is when they get installed in an improvised way >>105878574.

>>105886869
I can't even find the price on the internet here in brazil, so I'll take the portuguese prices: it costs 85 euros for a 30 liter one, which is 550 reais. The cheapest electric shower (that I can vouch for) costs 65 reais.
Doesn't matter if the thermoacumulator lasts longer, is better and safer, people here chose things by the price and don't care for safety (our cars for example, lack safety features that are common all over the world).
We are just that retarded.

>>105886896
That's true very true.
I did lived in the south of Brazil for a while (parana), and there was general gas heating there, but southeast like SP etc has none of that.

get a multimeter and measure ? you absolute ape

>>105886919
>doubt.png
I was antecipating the argument.
>when properly installed electric shower are damn safe
They are, I never heard of someone dying because of a shower, even though one short-circuited and fried part of our house's electric system (!) while my grandfather was taking a bath, nothing happened because it was properly grounded and had a breaker switch.

>>105886923
>it costs 85 euros for a 30 liter one,
you won't do shit with 30 liters kek
>The cheapest electric shower (that I can vouch for) costs 65 reais.
holy fuck

>>105886957
Different anon but it's literally just a shower with a big resistor inside, it's really not any more complex than an electric kettle.

>>105886891
>hot water piping
not allergic at all, my grandma has showers that are heated by the local furnace, it uses iron tubes to carry the water from and in the tank inside the fire, peak comfy install she got there.

>>105886972
>>105885749
This one that looks almost like a grenade.

>>105886756
Interesting. You've been to every country in Europe huh.
Can you post your passport and show your hands?

>>105876090
>when I'm in a dysfunctional competition and my opponent is Brazilian

>>105886973
>peak comfy install she got there.
wait till you hear about having 2 sets of pipe that are looped at the end and a pump on the water heater to keep it flowing around, now THAT is comf

>>105887015
>You've been to every country in Europe huh
never claimed that just an educated guess from browsing water heaters all the bigboy ones for a whole house have mounts for recirc built in
>Can you post your passport and show your hands?
passport isn't here and why, you need to ID me from the veins on my hand?

>>105887042
wouldn't that just make the pipes effectively a radiator, wrecking efficiency?

>>105887086
nah they're plastic now + pipe insulation is a thing

>>105887086
forget about efficiency that shit looks dangerous as fuck

>>105887097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9DU4N4Gsdc

Nah they're fine

>>105886989
https://youtu.be/06w3-l1AzFk?t=561

>>105887117
I never been shocked by one of these shower heads specifically, but been zapped by the registry a few times.

>>105887097
yeah i think ill remove it and install a >>105878574 thanks for the heads up... RETARD
>>105887115
safety valves exist also it's not blowing up all the concrete around it

>>105887233
Both are probably equally safe, you don't hear much of either killing people.
However if you need to heat more than your showers (and you do), it makes a lot more sense having a central heating.
Even in Brazil, if you go south enough, you start to see central heating systems in the houses.

>>105883227
>dude I can't bathe, my ping is too high!

>>105886284
Seethe da silva

>>105876391
Have you tried putting an earplug to a dog? In his ear?

>>105887818
Your dog, your problem

>>105887233
You're probably safe from being zapped if you don't take your bath barefoot
And if this >>105878761 doesn't happen

>>105887844
>if you don't take your bath barefoot
who the fuck takes baths with shoes on???

>>105887880
i use my flip flops bruv

>>105887927
but why?

>>105886461
>"Masons or experts" we call "engenheiro civil" here
not true, "civil engineers" is what we call "engenheiro civil" here

>>105878681
Yes PAL-M is basically PAL60. If I'm not mistaken there are some minute technical differences between PAL-M and PAL60 if you want to be autistic about it, but it's basically the same thing

>>105878824
Not really, pretty much all eletronics are autoswitching 90V-240V these days.
You have to pay attention when purchasing appliances with motors/compressors though

>>105888061
>touches metallic shower valve
>gets zapped

>>105888988
That's only if you live in a shithole that doesn't have proper safety standards.

>>105889127
And what do you think that Brazil is...

>>105889253
My condolences.

>>105885924
What do you do when you get a device that does have an earth then, snap it off?

>>105875844 (OP)
Brazil has electricity?

>>105888274
>retty much all eletronics are autoswitching 90V-240V these days.
why do you lie on an anonymous image board? most eletronics in the blue and pink area are sold only in 127v format, the only things that will be autoswitching are computers and phone PSUs.
sometimes you will need to sort out across electronics that needs more power (like a a hair dryer) and figure out how that will work for you.
i dont live in red, but i think everything there would be sold in 220v.
>>105890334
most old europlugs and type A didnt have a ground, there was no problem at all, but people used to remove the ground yes. type n solved it too, since its compatible with groudless europlug.

oh shi-

>power? you don't need that, you conspiracy nut
>blackout matters!

heecccciiiin fuuuunniii

This is what we use in Thailand.
It's still electric but looks much nicer :3

>>105875960
>moving? you don't need that, you have laws at home, you conspiracy nut

>>105890971
So an American grounded plug, a Type B, you can just plug that in right, and have a 50% chance of setting the chassis live? Or on the other hand grounding it to neutral? Mega KEK

>>105891212
>Or on the other hand grounding it to neutral?
where do you think your ground wire actually goes

>>105891369
Here's a video explaining where it should go (separately) and why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl3Nexz_DLU
Very good Tuber BTW

>>105891212
I don't think it will fit at all

>>105875844 (OP)
They do it on purpose to filter out women.
Men will actually check before plugging, but women will just demand the outlet to do what they want.

>>105891369
Bridging ground wire to neutral works and is often done in old buildings but you should always keep those separate if possible

>>105890971
>why do you lie on an anonymous image board? most eletronics in the blue and pink area are sold only in 127v format
>the only things that will be autoswitching are computers and phone PSUs.
And TVs and monitors. And routers and networking equipment. And surveilance cameras. And LED bulbs.
It's not a lie. Pretty much any electronics device that doesn't require too much power is bivolt since like 20 years ago. You're just an idiot.
Appliances and devices that use motors/compressors like kitchen appliances, ACs, desk and ceiling fans, and some devices that use lots of power like electric shower heads, yes they aren't bivolt, however it's also not true that they are only sold in 127v. Don't know where you got that idea.

>>105883506
perú uses 220v60

>>105893560
>peru uses NTSC-M

What?

>>105893586
south american standards adoption in general is pretty cursed. for analog TV some countries chose PAL and others NTSC. others like Chile chose NTSC despite having 50Hz power and it worked just fine and then when digital TV came most of south america also switched to the ISDB-T norm with H264 coded due to brazilian-japanese push which is quite technically inferior to DVB-T2 used elsewhere but whatever it just werks. and then we have brazil with a mosaic of different residential voltage standards.

>>105893602
By what i'm reading it's exactly like NTSC, but with the color channel operating in a different frequency or something, it's bizarre

>>105892675
in chile we use type L plug with reversible neutral/live so doing this here would be a darwin award. ground goes to a copper bar

>>105878418
> getting the best of both worlds
Wrong, it uses the NTSC Color subcarrier frequency, so its not actually PAL color, its some horrible mutant. The higher color carrier of true PAL significantly contributes to its image quality.

>>105893622
it is, mostly regarding trade with mercosur countries which adopted PAL because of europe. pacific alliance countries tended to follow the US

>>105875844 (OP)
huh? thats switzerland one

>>105893678
It can actually display skin color.
I had this dvd player that could do both PAL-M and ntsc, and the color difference is brutal.

>>105893678
i know, we should have adopted PAL. it would have made everything so much easier and better. but as i said, we were aping the US back then. we had some PAL-M test transmissions but somehow Pinochet had a shit fit and decided to shoehorn NTSC-M. then we fucked up again adopting ISDB instead of DVB which is supported around the world and you can find easy cheap analog to digital converters for. ISDB-T equipment is scarce and expensive on aliexpress so old devices like my bedroom TV are screwed

>>105893602
> others like Chile chose NTSC despite having 50Hz power
Analog TV was uncoupled from mains frequency when it moved to color. Chile got TV after that so mains frequency was never a consideration.

>>105893762
indeed, i've been reading further and it turns out the NTSC adoption was a US soft power move, that move allowed us to quickly spread color TV around the country through the 80s where most people didn't even have one TV per home so it was kind of a compromise to make TV more available in exchange of using a bastard version of NTSC. also video game systems imported from the US worked without a hitch on these TVs so it was a plus.

>>105875844 (OP)
Monkey, don't you know how to differentiate a 127V from a 220V?

>>105894695
You can't do it by just looking, and if "assume it will work because its an outlet", you might get a melting surprise.

>>105892675
127v is just retarded, instead of two fases + a ground, you get a fase + a neutral + a ground.
>>105893521
nah in my area, all kitchen equipment sold here, such as refrigerators, stoves, microwaves, mixers and all small appliances are 127. only monitors, TVs and PSUs are usually autoswitching.

>>105896541
This is fine

>>105875850
>>105875959
I am very jealous of you and your cute smiley face outlets.

No power outage in a decade, reliable 220V 16A out of every outlet, can turn my plug however I want to. Every source of water has access to hot and cold drinking water, and it mixes instantly to desired temperature. Hot water is coming from a central gas heater that also heats the whole building with in floor heat exchange. Each room has adjustable floor temperature.

>>105897068
That's beautiful.

>>105896125
>nah in my area, all kitchen equipment sold here, such as refrigerators, stoves, microwaves, mixers and all small appliances are 127.
If the local brick and mortar stores in your area are retarded, just order them over the internet instead. Ever thought of that? In any large online magazine store or marketplace, almost every product has 127V and 220V options.

>>105897307
yea... in another words most appliences arent autoswitching, that was the whole point.

>>105897307
>do you want your suicide shower zappy or extra zappy?

>>105897346
And where tf did I say that appliances are autoswitching?
Since my first post >>105888274 I explained that electronics are autoswitching but you have to be careful with appliances (because they aren't).
Then you move goalposts and say that in your area (which I assume is 220v) you can only find 127v appliances in stores. I have lived in both 127v and 220v regions and never saw this happen, local stores will alway sell monovolt appliances in the local voltage, I think there are even laws regulating this stuff.
Functional illiteracy really is the bane of this country.

>>105897451
retard, i live in pink area and said most appliences here are sold 127v monovolt only not autoswitching like you claimed up there and that there are very few exceptions.

>>105875844 (OP)
make the contacts for the 220v deeper, so a 110v plug cant conplete the circuit

>>105893738
Digital TV converters are cheap and plentiful in Brazil. I don't suppose you're looking for actual *broadcast* equipment, so what exactly are you trying to do?

>>105893521
>Pretty much any electronics device that doesn't require too much power
more specifically devices that run on DC internally and use a switching power supply, which is most things nowadays as long as they don't use;
- an AC resistive heater
- an AC motor
which includes things like large power tools, fridges, fans, heaters, air conditioners, etc, etc
older devices that use a transformer for DC conversion may be single voltage or have a switch to on them to change windings to support multiple voltages

>>105897769
Older appliances with transformers had a 110/220v switch.

>>105897874
i mentioned those.

>>105897769
also it's not a matter of power requirements, though many of the heaviest items do happen to use AC motors/heaters like large saws or kettles. others like your ceiling fan are more like 50W but still use an AC motor

>>105876090
>115V
Why are P*ulistanos such snowflakes?

>>105883030
I stuck some toy keys in a power socket and got blown half way across the room
and I turned out fine haha