Why have wayland apologists been so aggressive lately?

Reddit screenshot threads should be bannable

>>105883143 (OP)
They're losing the fight, they're losing their minds, and they're losing their support (41%)

I wish you DE/WM/Distro faggots would get a fucking life. You're obsessed with something entirely trivial and seemingly don't realize it.

openbsd, dwm, xenocara.
there is no other home for the white man.
please touch grass.

>>105883254
fpbp

>>105883143 (OP)
>Why have wayland apologists been so aggressive lately?
The whole corporate Linux apparatus has been scrambling to put out as much noise as possible to drown out the undeniable fact that Canonical (the ubuntu guys) has been exposed as harboring, covering and protecting pedophiles, sexual predators and abusers, employing them not just behind the scenes but as literal "faces" of their corporation in summits and presentations, sending them across the entire US without telling anyone that they are literal violent felons that cannot be trusted with vulnerable people around.

>>105884230
Watch for the faggots who are about to come out of the woodworks to drag what I just said into the mud, like winged apes being released from their corpo cages.

>>105883143 (OP)
The big wigs at redhat are upset about the X11 fork (XLibre) and are engaging in a concerted effort to anti-competitively bully deviants for their protocols to save maintenance costs. The ecosystem is easier to control when everyone gets in line and having DEs with different flavors of compositors is getting in the way of that. The same was happening with the push for systemd when they forced that down everyone's throats.

Make no mistake, though. This effort is not a genuine grassroots. It's entirely astroturfed, driven by corporate interests.

I just wanted a working TearFree solution but because RedHat are a bunch of faggots not we got a full flown fork, next time think twice before trying to kill the emacs of display servers

>>105884291
>The same was happening with the push for systemd when they forced that down everyone's throats.
That's putting it mildly. People who opposed systemd were literally suicided.

RIP Ian.

Xorg doesn't have fractional scaling. It's trash.

>>105883300
fpbp

this shit doesnt matter its a piece of fucking software

>>105883143 (OP)
turns out that child rapists are very aggressive people

>>105884435
neither does wayshit. it's redundant

>>105884489
This

>>105884435
Scaling is not the job of the windowing system. Its the applications responsibility to draw itself at the correct scale. Xorg provides the necessary information for applications to scale themselves correctly.

>>105884291
The problem is that Valve has orders of magnitude more money than Red Hat.
Valve can swing its dick around and force Wayland to break its tardmodel.

>>105884435
Xorg also doesn't have constant flickering like gayland.

>>105884631
IBM takes in about 4x the annual revenue of Valve.

Hi /g/.

>>105884368
TearFree working fine on Xenocara+AMD and Intel.

I use NixOS and monitored how the takeover went last year. The invaders seemed to have infinite time to try to talk over and discredit anyone trying to discuss things logically. They tried to limit who had a voice by only allowing people with commits to talk. They wanted people to use their real names. They took fairly levelheaded posts and accused them of sealioning and other shit I'd never heard of before as an excuse to ban those accounts. They tried to stuff the project leadership by demanding DEI spots. Lots of them. It was hard to even keep up with the flood of posts they made... I'm not sure they did anything else during that period. They didn't have control of /r/nixos, so of course they wouldn't listen to anything posted there. It was awful. I've seen this behavior repeated since then, and it's definitely happening with xlibre. They are truly hostile and petty people.

>>105883143 (OP)
Because they're taking serious heat, getting caught gaslighting people, getting caught raping their sisters, getting caught sabotaging a core piece of the Linux desktop for a decade.

These people are sexually deviant, and have serious power complexes. Clinical narcissism is just the fucking beginning, like what we've seen with Bichta.

A core piece of understanding what the actual fuck is going on is actually understanding that guy. Understand that Canonical both knew about his actions and have decided to defend him. A dude who literally sexually tortured his 7 year old sisters (and more) like they were in a fairly hardcore BDSM scene.

This is the level of narcissism we are dealing with, this is the level of FUCK YOU, DO AS I SAY we are dealing with. Imagine that for every Bichta in corporate Linux, you have say, three more that are 75% as bad. Five more that are half as bad. Ten more that are "just" your garden variety narcissist.

You guys REALLY need to start understanding more psychology.

We need a petition to rewrite Wayland and systemd in rust IMMEDIATELY, releasing new C code in 2025 like this is irresponsible.

>>105884937
Same thing happened to multiple projects I've been working on since the 90s. Always the same tactics use. Demand everyone use real name. Try to dig up anything you can about their pasts. Claim any opposition is trolling/wrongthink/personal attacks. Make everything about politics or other non-issues. Kick out any long term contributors using any method possible. Gain moderator/admin positions over all discussion channels (mailing lists, forums, reddit, and even /g/ threads) then ban everyone that doesn't agree with you. Gain control over whatever CVS the project uses and start requiring dox to send code. Submit and demand CoC be enforced (usually based on that geek feminism one) then when people speak out ban them for being bigots. Set up "committees" or other political structure, claim they're a democracy but then make decisions in private.

They did this to Gentoo and they've done it to FreeBSD. Along with many other software projects I've either contributed to or was the original creator of. I was BDFL over one big project and I got run out of my own project for something I said on a mailing list 20 years ago and because I refused to hand over my dox. I made the stupid mistake of trying to be less involved 15 years ago and allowing group of trusted contributors to set up a foundation. I lost control over the foundation and the project. I looked away for 2 years to deal with life and when I came back to send code I wasn't allowed to contribute to my own creation anymore. Now a major tech company pretty much owns it but they still claim it's FOSS. I'm not even allowed to post on the mailing list anymore.

>>105884990
At least Xlibre will cut down distro hopping a lot, right?

>>105885106
at least give me a "winner" react

>>105884937
>They wanted people to use their real names.
You know what you need to do, anon. Be the change you need to be.

>>105884477
what do you think fpbp means, anon?

>>105883143 (OP)
Its to advance a political ideology.

>>105885013
Are you the original Void dude?

>>105885013
And it'll keep happening because all im hearing is problems, no solutions.

>>105885405
There is no solution unless you're talking final.

>>105885013
May I ask which project that was?

>>105885493
>Final
Sounds like a great solution desu.

>>105885513
OH FUCK. Didn't even realize. That's not what I meant. Uhm. You know what I mean, unless you kick out every radical and ban them for life you'll never have a quiet moment in your life again.

I predict that FOSS will split into two parts: Actual FOSS (chudware) and wannabe FOSS that is owned by corporations sockpuppeteering trannies.

>>105883143 (OP)
What's the new hotness? I never really interacted with /g/ and just came back from 2014 when every X.Org developpers decided to support Wayland because X11 is a shit protocol.

But people are having a shit flinging competition about it somehow now. I hear trannies left and right, jews, some more jews, faggots, pedophiles, jews and pedophiles at the same time. What has so thoroughly kicked the /g/ nest that an obsolete graphical stack being replaced by a better one, on the explicit wish of the X.Org devs in fucking 2014, somehow make you all lose your minds.

>>105885609
Wayland is written by CNILES in 2025, not acceptable

>>105885609
>What has so thoroughly kicked the /g/ nest that an obsolete graphical stack being replaced by a better one
This recent buzzing has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to do with the Xorg drama besides being a smokescreen for something wild.
Some actual violent sex offender and diddler is being employed by canonical, they have ACKnowledged it, but say they won't do shit about it.
Trannies are running counter-intel like crazy to drown it out. <- This is where the Xorg drama comes in
No one on YT is covering it. If you mention it on here, the thread will be pruned. All out shitshow.

kf -> community watch -> Open Source -> page 401 / post 8015 (story first breaks); page 411 / post 8211 (canonical admitting to it and telling everyone to pound sand).

The implications being grave.

>>105885405
A lot of people are naturally friendly and try to not upset people. They aren't used to this kind of behavior and don't know how to react to it. Most of these people will silently move on if things get awkward. Hopefully before things get too bad a line will be crossed and people will push back. I don't really think that'll happen, but sometimes surprising things happen.

>>105885013
>>105885346
Absolvte befuddlement, the vanishing story sticks if true. Retvrn diligently Void-sama.

>>105883143 (OP)
because there's no way to move forward with xorg/x11 and it reached the point where it drags everyone down. you schizos are just a small vocal local minority gang, basically lgbt equivalent of computing; the same schizogang who complained about systemd back in time, yet shipped zero real software (that's why you have no real influence in this matter btw). so like before with the systemd, you're gonna have no choice but to take yet another L. remember, your resistance is futile and you will be ultimately forced to bend the knee and take it raw, while telling everyone that you were actually never against all these changes.

>>105886007
the idea that you have to move forward is a fallacy. eventually a project is complete and beyond the occasional bug fix there is nothing that needs to be done.
X is complete, you can argue about minor features like HDR but whatever.
The problem is X as it is now is not fit to purpose for Red Hat or whatever company is using it. That is despite the fact it might be fit for purpose for many other people.
Since the corporations control linux and the world of the gpl they decide what goes in the trash regardless of how well you might like it.
and that is the illusion of freedom the gpl provides. sure the code is free but you are not free to use it as you like in the world and they will use the gpl to create a prison.
is it still a prison if you can see how the bars are made? of course

>>105886007
go bend your knees and take it raw elsewhere

If wayland becomes the only option for mint I will unironically buy a used mac, this spooky politics astroturfing bullshit has made me draw a line in the sand

>>105886214
What about BSD?

>>105885625
I welcome your rust port of X11.
Let me know where I can contribute.

Games are just switching to writing directly to /dev/fb anyway, since we can’t be locked into unstable environments that seem to be constructed to become proprietary.

>>105886214
>t. too retarded to install X11 so I'll buy something even worse

>>105886265
Framebuffer is the past. Even fucking android dropped that.

>>105886007
Wayland is stuck in the past. It can’t move forward because:
- It’s not even written in rust.
- Almost none of it was written using AI.

These are essential nowadays to move forward.

>>105885013
Sad. A lot of people said the XLibre project shouldn't have included the DEI or "make x great again" remarks since it alienates the "I just wanna grill" types and makes the project a target, but you really absolutely do have to keep the freaks away from your project in any way possible. Otherwise, they slowly infiltrate the project, accumulate influence, and then eventually bully all the meek neutral people into backing their takeover. If that doesn't work, then they'll find other ways to snuff a project out, which is certainly what is going on with XLibre right now. They're going to do everything in their power to sabotage the project going forward. I imagine most distros will refuse to package it.

>>105886265
What games aside from SDL ones do that?

>>105886451
You're not wrong. But the Wayfags would've found some reason to attack them. He just gave them some free ammo.

>>105883143 (OP)
Because of xlibre. They're a afraid.

>>105883143 (OP)
There's just too much work to do. In the end, only KDE and Gnome will remain, the rest hopelessly outdated.

Is there an input latency measurement between wayland and x11 when it comes to running an emulator with a USB controller?

>>105884291
XLibre is an effort to save Linux, while Wayland means to compromise all distros that use it. The end.

>>105886900
>But the Wayfags would've found some reason to attack them.
True.
>He just gave them some free ammo.
I think it was probably worth handing over some ammo in exchange for hardening the project against their typical infiltration tactics. Not only does it dissuade them from joining the project, but it also means that even if they attempt to, the project has been flooded with hyper-vigilant chuds who will sniff them out. So, now they have to kill it from the outside rather than the inside.