>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
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>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
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>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX
PSU buying guide:
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>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer XV271U M3, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
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>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super rumors: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: current 9070 prices in the US are too close to the 9070XT's.

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor, but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>Additional PSU Reviews
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies

For PSU tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>>105891488 (OP)
Did it again award
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Rmv2rEHc0

>>105891522
Happened to him again. PEBKAC

>>105891522
>gets 12vhpwr meme gpu
>proceeds to melt down
>"how can this be happening to me??!"
they never learn

>>105891522
Do does wireviews allow you to see the ampere per pin?

>>105891769
>Do does
stupid brainrot I meant "do those".

>>105891769
check back in 5 years when they finally properly implement monitoring. atm most if not all are not connected to anything (the measurement pins)

>>105891791
so it's basically 50 bucks to see and monitor the watt, something I could in theory read out via some software solution?

>>105891522
looking at nvidias boards now disgust me compared to amd boards. nvidia is so cheap and flimsy. missing vrms and capacitors wtf

>>105891813
ye. some gpus measure power in some not so precise way or not all of it something like that, and that shit would measure power into the gpu, but I think no need for it with latest gen gpus they measure precise power in hwinfo. but dunno if that gadget measures per pin or some shit.

>>105891815
>missing vrms and capacitors wtf
Those VRMs are running near optimum efficiency; having it fully populated is a literal waste of money (except for XOC SKUs).
Pic is the VRM analysis of the 4080 Super after people cried about the 2 fewer power stages.

>>105891488 (OP)
Thoughts on ASRock AMD GPUs?

>>105891863
nobody cares about gimped 4080

these are flagship models like 4090 and 5090 missing power stability

>>105891863
>optimum efficiency
that goes out the window with OC. but these days OC isn't possible anymore. and no, whatever the fuck controls you got in your shit proprietary bloat app is not "oc" it's fucking bullshit is what it is

>>105891876
>power stability
The number of VRMs has nothing to do with "power stability", the correct term is load balancing.
Nice RNDA3 efficiency with all those VRMs.

>>105891867
ASRock GPUs are fine.
9070 XT Taichi is good even with the 12V-2x6 connector because it has a maximum power limit of around 405W.
The connector has more than 1.5x safety margin at that max load.

>>105891892
all those driver issues are actually power issues being exposed now due to age and poor planning of reference

>>105891853
the astral has per pin ampere measurement but it also costs much more. I'm surprised no company came around with the idea to make such a wireview with per pin measurement as well. Someone who is willing to pay 2k$ for a GPU would also buy a gadget for 50.

>>105891815
thats an asus pcb. they use the same one on the strix but with all vrms filled up.
>>105891769
they are working on the wireview pro II that does that and also has a safety shutdown feature

>>105891987
You'd have a point if the display/visual glitches were only happening to 4090/5090 with uneven current distribution.
They're two separate issues.
I don't have much sympathy for 4090/5090 owners because most of them knew what they were getting into.
The 4090 owners could've sold their card above their purchase price.

>>105892041
>wireview pro II that does that and also has a safety shutdown feature
oh nice. I mean I have an astral but maybe I'll get one of those as well.

>>105891961
>being limited is good for you
stop defending shit decisions corporations make to increase their margins while still fucking you over with fake msrp and less vrm. they're penny pinching everywhere and they they're paying trumpets like you to defend their bullshit.
soon, and retards like you will defend it, you'll have mandatory online accounts to even be able to use your gpu, mandatory internet connection or your shit won't boot, and you'll pay a monthly subscription to "boost" your GPU performance. and morons like you will justify it as good.
12VHPWR is a shit connector, end of. if you bought a gpu with such connector, stop defending your shit purchase. you made a shit purchase, someone with 3 classical connectors is better off than you are. even if you are "within margins". stop coping. you get less for your money.

>>105892050
https://youtube.com/shorts/Jdcb2s0YyN0?si=0gBdbqnXu_ykqBAz

NVIDIA told PSU manufacturers their products need to be built to handle the RTX 30's transient spikes.
NVIDIA will tell them to deal with the current balancing on the PSU end.

This might change with RTX 60, but prepare for the worst and all.

>>105892028
>the astral has per pin ampere measurement but it also costs much more.
which is pretty much retarded, that should have been a common sense change.
they changed the cheap connectors. and now the even cheaper connector requires power monitoring because it cannot do it without melting down, so they gotta add the power monitoring bullshit. I swear this is a fucking humiliation ritual lmao.
>yeah bro makes sense to pay more to get power monitoring so connector doesn't melt. it's "superior"
to fucking what lmao
>but it looks better
you get what you fucking deserve

>>105891498
>Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues,

Geez, was about to go with Gigabyte Windforce SFF RTX 5080 for a new build. Thanks for the warning, thread.

>>105892099
It's just a reference-grade card; that's not the reason why the 12VHPWR connectors are melting.

>>105892092
The 9070 XT doesn't need more power beyond 400W, you're barely going to notice the performance difference compared to a 9070XT running at +500W.

>>105892104
12VHPWR pins are even thinner than 8pin ones. the 8 pin connector pins can carry more current just by looking at the pin size, pin for pin vs 12VHPWR ones.

>>105892147
Still fine for a 405W power draw card. over 1.6x safety margin.
The 9070 XT arguably doesn't need more than 330W of power; it runs way too inefficiently afterwards.

>>105892132
they are doing this because they completely killed overclocking, so no need for more power. it's penny pinching everywhere and then they get their marketing apparatus selling it through youtube reviewers and morons on social media and most retards are buying it.
everything they did lately is anti consumer and protecting their margins, none of it is good. enshitification of tech is what this is

>>105892104
PSUs have been junk for decades years
it's only the PSU where it's tolerated that they can just explode and die and are so untrusted nobody except the most destitute would consider buying used ones

>>105892168
GPUs were always inneficient in OC wtf? problems is they took that away and you cannot do shit anymore, just drag those shit good for nothing sliders on their app
look mom I'm overclocking
you ain't doing shit, they killed overclocking on RDNA3

>>105892184
>because they completely killed overclocking
Because old video cards had shitter GPU boost algorithms, the newer cards automatically boost near the card's maximum potential.
The RTX 50 is a big exception because they left enough performance for the Super cards that will stay on the same tier of GPU.

>>105891488 (OP)
I want to buy a 10TB+ for my desktop and I want to avoid SMR. I've been looking to buy Exos but everyone and their mother seem to recommend against buying enterprise HDDs for desktop use. I've also read about the PWL all of these discs have nowadays, where the heads sweep around the disk every 5 seconds, creating a loud annoying thump.
What do you guys recommend?

>>105892226
6x 990 evo plus in a raid 10 array.

>>105892235
I'm not swimming in money, don't have the space to connect them, and I don't care about performance in the GB/s.

>>105892209
Shut the fuck up with your inane whining, the XFX Mercury 9070 XT needs to draw 40 extra watts to render to improve 1 FPS from its base power limit of 360W.
The GPU manufacturers are already allowing people to extract most of the chip's remaining performance.

I bought a motorcycle during prime week. Can anyone answer why the delivery is expected in August? Is someone walking from California? Did the protest slash all the tires?

>>105892253
youd have to ask in the chink shit general bud you have the wrong thread

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>>105892246
>defending the corporation
>anti user sentiment
>gibbs moneys and shut the fuck up
eat shit you fucking retard

>>105892271
I meant motherboard my phone is retarded. I'm just pissed waiting.

>>105892246
>>105892285
and also you have no fucking clue what you're talking about, you just regurgitate propaganda.
you do have gains, not proportional, but there are nice gains. problem is, corporation doesn't like having RMAs because of their GPUs getting too hot, so they nerf the shit out of them to keep them cool. and then they pay morons like you to defend that online. fucking idiots

>>105892226
yea HDD's fail a lot, but failure is actually good when you have raid, it keeps you aware and ready for backing up your data.
unless you have a really strong need to prevent data loss (fancy raid) or you 100% don't care about data loss, the price of HDD's pretty much matches up with SSD's in value, unless you go for like 16tb.
Just be aware that SSD's (as well as most electronics including HDD's) tend to have high infant mortality rates, so in the first year or so you have a high chance of the SSD dying.
Also the one thing SSD's are terrible at, is frequent overwrites, which is funny because SSD's are always used as the OS drive which is frequently overwritten (AND most people buy a new SSD while having 90% health remaining), but servers like to use SSD's as caches because it's fast but they tend to burn the lifespan of the SSD's a lot quicker (The TBW rating, and it's usually not hardware failure, the firmware will lock the ssd to read only when the TBW is reached, at least that's what happened to my 240gb ssd 10 years ago).
In reality hardware failure is not the most common source of data loss, it's usually user error.
>>105892244
>I don't care about performance in the GB/s.
thumbnail generation is lot faster on SSD's. that's a huge difference.

>>105892246
https://youtu.be/KCVlDLIMrNw
118 fps to 165fps. without modifying cooling. but dude had to go hardcore on it with soldering and shit.
>there's no gains bro bla bla retarded shit bla bla
get fucked moron

>>105892285
You're the one who defended lying AMD by purchasing their power-inefficient RDNA3 card, kek.
Some of us told people not to buy RDNA3 cards, there's a hardware bug that prevented these GPUs from meeting AMD's own performance & efficiency targets.

>>105892323
Thank your for the information, but I really just want to store porn and movies. I slow HDD is fine and they're cheap. I can create a RAID1 with two and that is perfectly fine. I ask for you anons help for two things:
1 - A CMR HDD
2 - An HDD that doesn't make random loud noises when idling - I believe this is caused by PWL.

>>105892342
dunno, XTX seems like a beast even today. shits on 9070xt. maybe not on RT but it's not far off on that either.

>>105892340
That XOC probably isn't stable enough for RT/PT + upsclaed performance (aka, all the major hardware in the GPU being utilized).
Not to mention it's way past the efficiency curve.
Sounds like someone's angry that they have to put some effort into XOCing a mass-produced card.

>>105892383
>That XOC probably isn't stable enough
you have no fucking clue what you are talking about you fucking shill, anything that's thrown at you you will deflect and deep throat corporation cock. fucking brainlet looser you have no clue about anything
>+1fps bruh
eat shit retard

>>105892383
>Not to mention it's way past the efficiency curve.
that is not the fucking point you gorilla retard. the point is I cannot fucking do it because their locked their shit down so hard you have to do soldering on that shit to get anything more past their nerfed limits. they do it to save money and shit, not to fucking help you. they fucking hate you, dipshit

>>105892352
idk about exos. but i have some iron wolf pro drives and WD gold drives. both are CMR and as quiet as any other spinning disk I have ever had, which isn't silent by any means.

>>105892404
>XOC takes extreme tinkering
Cry more, bitch.

>>105892413
Have you noticed them making random thump noises every 5 seconds when idling?

>>105892415
dude's on fucking stock cooling are you insane? XOC means waterblock and that kind of shit. dude is literally on stock fucking cooling. eg the cooling can take it, in stock fucking form.
let alone whatever is possible on fucking waterblock
stock cooling is not XOC you imbecile!

>>105892395
>you have no fucking clue what you are talking about
Actually, I do. RT/PT render loads are more stressful to the GPU compared to pure rasterized scenes.
That's why the world's best overclockers have to downclock their 9070 XT when setting RT/PT records.
Some of those recorded boost clocks are probably clock-stretching as well.

>>105892426
It doesn't guarantee stability.
Buildzoid is the type of person to admit it, and he probably shares that disclaimer in the video.

>>105892421
they were in a server and rarely idled so not really. when I retired them they had 68k hours and around 200 spin ups.

>>105892352
for your use case, you could just stick to a 2tb nvme, optionally with a usb adapter to make it easy to share movies with people, and just swap it out when you run out.
I already know there are issues with this approach (you want plex or you want a single drive for everything), but personally I don't really spend any time rewatching anything.
The only reason you are getting 10tb is because HDD's only start being attractive at 10tb, but it's really not necessary depending on how many gigs you download per day. If you downloaded 1 gig per day, 2tb is going to last you years.
(and plus, I like copying movies onto people's PC's, it's not ideal but some people just have a terrabyte of free space and I have a relatively small collection of movies since I don't like blueray rips)

>>105892466
nobody knows innit? because nobody can do it, but few people who have the skills to do hardware mods. hence why OC is dead now. no way of finding stable settings, because few people try it anyway

>>105892451
they do not even have controls for it, dude just shorted some shit on the pcb so he gets more power. but clock settings are gone, there was something on amd on rdna2 with play something something you could alter where clocks are at, that's not possible with software, and hardware just gives you extra power but nothing else like clock settings to tune. their stock app is a useless piece of shit I can use UV like 50mv and that's that it crashes. this is a bunch of fucking bullshit.
again, stock deepthroating corporation cock. you're either an imbecile either a paid shill you don't know shit about shit
>+1fps bruh
you're an idiot, I know you are, you have proved it with your statements. now fuck off retard

>>105892451
>probably clock-stretching as well.
you probably do anus stretching

>>105892530
Altering the GPU's power & voltage limits through hardware modifications is an XOC.
And you're grossly overstating the benefits of those mods when 9070 owners just need to flash a compatible 9070XT vBIOS and manually tune the V/F in Adrenaline to get most of the gains (153 FPS vBIOS flash vs. 165 FPS HW modded).
Buildzoid also acknowledges that those extra FPS could be attributed to his better OC'd CPU & memory setup compared to Dave's.
https://youtu.be/KCVlDLIMrNw?t=3025

Stop overselling this fully populated VRM and HWmodded XOC bullshit.

why there are so many versions of the same card?
if I take one from ASUS dose it really maters if it's tripple fan or whatever?
It's only 5060 ti

>>105892253
they need to repossess the motherboard from the nigger who stole it and send it back to amazon for them to ship it out

>>105892614
>Altering the GPU's power & voltage limits through hardware modifications is an XOC.
yes you fucking imbecile, because they locked software down, so he has no choice but use hardware mods. that's the whole fucking point of this discussion innit? that you cannot fucking do it in software anymore, because they locked that shit down. so the only way is via hardware modification.
what the fuck is it so hard for those two weakling neurons of yours to comprehend? that is the whole issue. they nerfed the software so bad you cannot do those mods, only hardware. that's the le bad part you fucking brain dead retard. follow the fucking discussion, go hit your head on the fucking wall so you wake up those two remaining neurons you fucking monke
also how THE FUCKING FUCK are you replacing the bios you absolute fucking imbecile? I am out of epithets for how utterly fucking retarded each of your fucking statements is. you are the most idiotic interlocutor I ever had in this fucking hellhole

>>105892383
if thats XOC, all 9070xts are XOC'd from the factory

>>105892662
>also how THE FUCKING FUCK are you replacing the bios you absolute fucking imbecile?
as in, that's still a hardware modification, cannot do it from the operating system. rdna2 is the last OC generation

>>105892662
You are the retard, you are not drawing the correct conclusion from the video you posted.

The 9070 just needs a compatible 9070 XT vBIOS to get most of that hardware-modded performance.
The remaining 7~8% average FPS difference could be attributed to better-tuned CPU & memory, noted by Buildzoid himself.
It's almost a guarantee Buildzoid's test bench is better tuned than Dave's.
Watch the videos you post.

>>105892667
Power & voltage limit increase beyond AMD & AIB's spec through hardware modifications is the very definition of an XOC.

>>105892633
that's a vestigial thing, they're trying to get more money out of you for something irrelevant these days. three fans was for OC cards. these days "OC" means you get 5-10W in software slider, extra vs other GPUs. which is fuck all. just look at tests and see if the two fans does it for you as temperatures and noise. anything else is absolute bullshit these days. they took away OC but they're still selling bits that were useful for it (three fans/larger heatsinks), which are mostly irrelevant these days. small temperature differences between all of them.

>>105892706
>The 9070 just needs a compatible 9070 XT vBIOS to get most of that hardware-modded performance.
THE BIOS MODIFICATION IS A HARDWARE MODIFICATION YOU FUCKING TURD!!! YOU NEED AN EXTERNAL DEVICE TO CONNECT TO THE PCB, thus you have to open the GPU, get to motherboard. might as well do the hardware mod to get all that power. you also need some programmer stuff.
stop defending it, you're just cringe at this point

>>105892737
Flashing a vBIOS is a software modification, you're not changing the physical vBIOS chip.
You're altering the information inside that IC, there is no soldering involved.
You can download a 9070 XT vBIOS, that is a software.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/274304/powercolor-rx9070xt-16384-241204

>>105892706
https://youtu.be/eXnQjwW-5JY
here, replacing the bios is almost the same thing as what Buildzoid did. you connect some device to your gpu pcb and write the bios. might as well go all in at that point. whoever is opening the gpu to connect shit on the board might as well go all in.
the whole issue is they locked the software so bad you have to connect other shit to the pcb which is fucking retarded.

>>105892777
Unscrewing the video card's backplate to flash a vBIOS is not in the same realm as shunt modding the GPU.

>>105892751
see >>105892777
it's hardware mod. you use external hardware and connect to your pcb. software means you sit comfy looking at monitor and click shit. that's software.
hardware means you open up your shit, take it to bits, and use shit on your pcb. that's a hardware mod for me. you cannot do it in software. you NEED extra hardware, be it soldering gear or programmers. that's not for the regular user.
software means you look at your monitor and do shit with keyboard and mouse, never taking your GPU to bits, and you overclock it. that's what i mean by software.

>>105892724
I'm planning to undevolt and I can't even find a non-oc version to buy

>>105892802
it's taking the GPU to bits voiding your warranty and using external hardware to do mods on it. that's not what software overclocking means, drop the bullshit.

>>105892803
Hardware mod means altering the physical components of the video card.
vBIOS flash means you're changing the data inside the existing chip.
It's a software mod.

>>105892805
funny thing is none of them are OC lmao. these days OC means they give you 5-10W on that slider and that's it nothing else. and beefier heatsinks and shit. but OC is a meme these days. they're selling something which doesn't exist anymore.
they fucking hate us

>>105892813
You don't void the warranty just from unscrewing the backplates.
vBIOS flash does void warranty because you're changing the card's stock software behavior; it's not a hardware mod.

>>105891488 (OP)
Hey guys, i need help
Every time I turn on my gaming PC, it bluescreens and crashes before booting up, and the issue repeats in a loop. I can sign in and possibly start Chrome, but it crashes, even during the sign-in process. I thought it was a Windows issue, as I had updated it and the problem started, but after reinstalling it, the issue persists.


All I know is that its not windows. its prob a hardware problem but I can't tell which is damaged.

>>105892852
Id start by removing things from the mobo and reconnecting them, including repasting cpu
then see if the mobo has error lights pop up

then maybe ram/ssd tests in windows

>>105892820
you are altering the hardware (the bios chip), and you lose your warranty. if you do a warranty claim with that altered bios you'll get denied because you MODIFIED YOUR GPU. same as soldering on it. if you have to open up your GPU and connect external electronics to it, that's a hardware mod for me. you lose the warranty, you connect stuff to it, and you permanently alter it.
with software OC, you click on a window and set your values and that's it, it's overclocked. no GPU teardown required. plug it into PC once, configure in software.

>>105892873
>if you do a warranty claim with that altered bios you'll get denied because you MODIFIED YOUR GPU
Because you software modified the stock GPU.

>>105892899
Software mod = no soldering required.
Warranty denied for bricked vBIOS = because you software-modded the existing vBIOS chip.
Solder a new vBIOS chip to unfuck your mistake = hardware mod.
It's pretty clear.

>>105892845
you are modifying the hardware on the GPU dude. you are modifying the bios chip contents. you can say it's still software but you lose your warranty.
software OC means you set the gpu performance from some software on your PC. when you turn it off the gpu is like you bought it, and still in warranty.
what the fuck is this shit argument? how the fucking fuck does it matter that it's technically "software" are you fucking dumb? what fucking argument is this? how does this change anything you fucking piece of shit?? what because it's technically "software" now everything is fine and AMD did nothing wrong? you fucking waste of oxygen

>>105892933
>you can say it's still software but you lose your warranty.
You can lose warranty from a bricked GPU caused by an Afterburner OC (very unlikely to happen, but still possible).
The conditions that void a video card warranty aren't limited to hardware reasons.

>>105892931
so fucking what you gorilla retard????? what fucking difference does it make? I don't want to open my GPU you fucking turd. I want software access from the operating system. go fuck yourself you moron, hope you choke on that corporation cock

>>105892952
>Retard too lazy to reprogramm (software mod) the vBIOS when techtubers are spoon-feeding him the right components to do it.
>'I HATE THE CORPOS'
Then don't buy video cards, faggot.

>>105892965
I want a video card that I can overclock from the operating system, without having to open it up.
you being against this means you are deepthroating AMDs interests against consumer interests, and people here should be suspicious of your claims. because they are anti-consumer and pro-corporation interests.
nobody in their right mind would defend opening up your gpu and reprogramming with external electronics vs having software access. that's just utterly fucking retarded no matter how you frame it you fucking turd. you glow hard

>buy low end 300$ card
>go full autist to mod it so you can OC it for 3% gains
Brilliant.

>>105892992
That's just how product segmentation works
AMD could've fused off more cores in the 9070 if they wanted to completely neuter the OCing potential of the chip.
Do you even own a 9070?

should I keep rocking my 1080ti, get a 5089 or wait for super? all I play is squad, tarkov, space engineers, and minecraft.

>>105893096
The super is mostly relevant for local LLM uses

Your games will run on gpus with 1/3rd the vram of 5080 super

>>105893061
>tfw 300$ is now low end

>>105893061
>for 3% gains
see >>105892340
it's actually 40% gains which is fucking insane on stock cooler

>>105893116
if you think about inflation 300 is like 200 from 10y ago

>>105893061
Damn nigga your brain is cooked

>The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xffffb88bcbcad010, 0xfffff8062872bb30, 0xffffffffc000009a, 0x0000000000000004).
My system keeps shitting the bed lately and I can't tell if it's my degraded Ryzen 3700X being unstable, my 32GB + 64GB memory configuration being unstable, or if it's my NVIDIA RTX 3060 Ti drivers (Studio version 555.99) being unstable, or if it's Windows at fault. Any idea what the fuck might be happening?

>>105893096
Super isnt coming anytime soon fyi
Probably 6 months at the earliest with iffy stock until 3 months after launch

>>105893061
>>105893119
but not a $300 GPU but also have no clue how any other gpu OCs because who fucking knows it's not possible these days

>>105893134
The only common factor is that it always seems to happen when I have OBS Studio open. I walk away for a minute while OBS is open and I see my monitor in standby and the system shuts off on its own afterwards (last time It'd only just hang). Before this I was tweaking my 3700X in the BIOS trying to get the power down since I was having trouble posting but just ended up resetting everything back to default. Now the system memory trains at most on startup.

>>105893139
Most Nvidia GPUs overclock about 7% pre rtx5000. 15% for rtx5000

>>105893134
reset bios to default settings, take cover off make sure there's airflow to everything else, it's hot these days. ram/vrm can overcook. make a new os install on a different ssd and see if it does the same.

>>105893119
More like 30% attributed to vBIOS flashing, and an additional 8% through shunt modding + CPU & memory OC.
Possible on only 1 GPU SKU of this generation, and it's commonly overpriced to the point you just buy a 9070 XT anyway.

Bitching about it will only incentivize Radeon to aggressively disable the cores for these exceptional cases in the future.

>>105893116
>6010 6GB version will 350$

>>105893134
>32GB + 64GB memory configuration
are you mixing sticks/packs or something? well, run a memtest + prime95 on stock bios settings. afaik, mixed ram always tends to shit itself, so i would start with it.

>>105893168
The bios flash and shunt mod has the same effect though
And buildzoid didn't bios mod his GPU since he doesn't want to.

>>105893134
create a whea logger in event viewer then report back the wheas the next time you crash.

>>105893168
he didn't do any bios flashing, 9070 was 118fps stock and 165fps best result after his mod. so 40% increase. on stock bios.

>>105893196
Buildzoid himself compared his shunt mod to Dave's vBIOS flash.
And he wasn't certain whether all of that 8% difference was due to the hardware mod or his CPU & memory config.
Watch the videos you post.

i have a 5700x3d, what bios settings should i enable to optimize its performance, if any? ive been playing with this cpu on a 2020 bios and i didn't realize just how much performance i was leaving on the table by not updating. i recently updated to a 2025 bios update and multiplayer games literally gained 20-30 extra fps. so i wonder if there's anything else i should do on the bios for it to have optimal performance on my specific cpu that uses that extra 3d cache

>>105893189
>70-series
>MFG+DLSS AddOn-Pack starting for only $19.99/mo. For those who dare!

>>105893211
I didn't post the link and I watched it during the week he posted it
Your post put words into his mouth almost indicating that you didn't watched it

>>105893155
>reset bios to default settings
Done just that beforehand, though it is still on a version from 2024 for the X470 GP Max. Might go ahead and update to AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.E to see if it does anything, though seeing as previous BSoD codes include 0x00000133 it might not be that to blame for all I know or could make things worse somehow.
>>105893192
>are you mixing sticks/packs or something
Using G.Skill Rip Jaws V 3200/CL16 kits, first kit is 16+16 and the other is 32+32 but this was never an issue until now, might take out one of the kits though since I got a league race coming up and I'd hate to bluescreen (or blackscreen in my case) during it.
>run a memtest + prime95 on stock bios settings
I've run Prime95 to test CPU stability at lower voltages and clocks multiple times, though after I've reset it won't go above 800 MHz on all cores during Small FFT's whereas before it'd pin the CPU. Not sure why, don't think it's the power plan though since installing the chipset stuff changed nothing.

>>105893168
>these exceptional cases in the future.
lmao it's like one I've seen. there's probably 50 people in the whole world. it doesn't statistically exist. we are already there, it's gone. mainly because people don't say anything, youtube reviewers are getting paid so they cannot bite the hand that feeds them.

>>105893116
I remember back in 2015 my GTX 660 ti crashing in MGSV:PP when it rained in game so I bought a GTX 950 for 150 € and everything worked fine while the game looked great at 60 fps. AAA games now don't look much better and require a 1k € GPU to achieve the same. Kinda sucks.

>>105893222
>Your post put words into his mouth
There's a segment in Buildzoid's video where he concludes his shunt mod + CPU & memory config is less than 8% better than Dave's vBIOS flash.
Check the image in >>105892706

Quit being an idiot.

>>105893203
Event viewer hasn't reported any WHEA events in the Windows system log so I'll have to check that out.

>>105893233
he got a massive performance improvement by removing the power limits. without going into video memory overclocking. that's a different subject altogether which can bring additional extra fps on top. if we only had access to overclocking our cards, from software.

>>105893303
>he got a massive performance improvement by removing the power limits
Within 8% of an ASUS Prime 9070 XT vBIOS flash, which has sub 370W maximum power limit.
Buildzoid's test system with a 9700X and the modded 9070 was drawing over 700W of total system power in Time Spy & 600W during that Cyberpunk benchmark.

Sub 8% gain (because Buildzoid has better CPU & memory tuning) for all that extra power is a waste.

>>105893333
>for all that extra power is a waste.
that's not what extreme overclocking is about lel do you even know who Buildzoid is dude?

>>105893381
No one needs XOC power draws for a daily system; few are dumb enough to test the daily stability of such wasteful spec.
The vBIOS flash with around 350W power limit plus a better CPU & memory tuning will practically match that peformance

>>105893406
full control of video card gives you more than what he did. he just removed power limits and did volt mod. there's more things you can do to the gpu but he can't because there's no extra access to anything else. playing with the vf curve which you could previously do in msi afterburner and some other shit. the point is full control gets you more.
also who the fuck are you to advocate against that? what tf are you doing here? what's the purpose of your comments? defend what? what gpu manufacturers do? who fucking does that? and more importantly, why?

>>105893432
>full control of video card
If you want these cards, make a name for yourself and get sponsored by one of the AIBs.
It's not freely available to anyone because people like you will end up overvolting the GPUs.
You can start by posting your personal OC records to show you deserve to tweak those kinds of cards.

>>105893452
if Intel gives me something I can overclock I'll instantly switch. I don't like being told what I'm allowed to do and what not. if I want to overclock my gpu until it breaks that's my choice. I don't have to prove shit to anyone, I want full control of the thing I pay for.
again, who the fuck are you and why are you riding corpo cock so hard? what are you actually doing here you shill?

>>105893300
it needs to be created manually. ryzens before am5 can keep track of wheas when they occur. it will throw one the second you have cpu/ram/ instability. it will even record amd gpu instability if you have one.

>>105893134
>it's my degraded Ryzen 3700X
Did you fuck it up or is it just going bad?

>>105893506
do cpus degrade? used normally? wtf there's cpus from 30 years ago still going

>>105893468
No one is forcing you to buy these cards with restricted vBIOS.
If you want to pose like an XOCer, buy one of the high-end 4090/5090 with unrestricted vBIOS in circulation.
If you just want to move some sliders in the OS like a normie, you have to play by NVIDIA/AMD/Intel's rules.

>>105892209
theres a different between 400watt MAXoutput and 400w RMS (nominal power out)

>>105893544
degrade in cpu context means it cant run same voltages as it used to so you need to increase to compensate or decrease the clock.

ryzen in particular is very picky about vsoc. its like a radio frequency. too low\high and you get static and drop outs. just right and you get clear music.

>>105893559
I could buy a regular GPU up to RDNA2 and do whatever I wanted. why are you defending corpos denying us that privilege? what's in it for you shill? why are you spreading their propaganda?
>you have to play by NVIDIA/AMD/Intel's rules.
stop gargling on their piss, it's fucking pathetic

>>105892244
shit... i been rocking the gt1030 goning on four years now. has vulkan support and 2gb perfect for playing ps1-2 and even rpcs3 (sometimes).
i have an amd r9 oem under my bed its way faster BUT opengl bound :(.

>>105893577
Then buy RDNA2 and freely move sliders in the OS.
Funny how you demean people who OC in Adrenaline/Afterburner, yet you complain vBIOS flashing is too tedious, and you want a user-friendly, unrestricted slider-moving experience.
Kek'd.

Been reading that AMD doesn't support both PCIe 5.0 NVME and GPU at the same time is this true?

Is 5090 worth it for 2600?

>>105893597
some x870 and e boards are configured the way that secondary PCIe 5.0 slots end up sharing lanes with the GPU if you use them but the main slot should be PCIe 5.0 with the GPU getting the full x16 lanes.

>>105893506
>Did you fuck it up or is it just going bad?
The most I've ever done to it was to go into the BIOS and set manual voltage as low as I could and figure out the stable all-core frequency I could achieve after I noticed I wasn't hitting advertised all core clocks. I've updated my BIOS now and removed two of my memory sticks but I'll run MemTest86 one by one now.

>>105893616
you get a 5090 which you prob cant use to make money and you lose 2600, ofc it can be sold later to recoup some of it
if you're employed in usa you must have so much disposable income it literally doesnt matter

>>105893617
How do I know what motherboard I should get?

>>105893631
Reviews tend to mention it. You can always just check the mobos manual as it's mentioned there.

>>105893544
Before the advent of Ryzen and very recent Intel CPUs (13th/14th gen), CPUs where about as close to bullet proof as you could reasonably ask for.
Not to say CPUs never degraded but it usually very extreme cases like certain boards overvolting CPUs (eg Asus HEDT boards) or just OCed to death CPUs in general.
Generally if you weren't OCing, you never doubted the CPU when you did have an issue with system instability, it was literally anything else.

Kinda makes me weep at how problematic anything can be nowadays. You can just use systems as intended with zero OC (not even XMP/Expo) and have CPUs degrade.

>>105893591
they made it impossible to tweak software until you get full control. these days normies don't give a fuck about any of that. all prebuilt users are completely clueless and cannot really absorb any bit of extra information, let alone tweaking shit.
the problem is they made it impossible for any length of effort via software. if they didn't fully lock it down it would be fine, some maniacs would still do it while most people wouldn't give a fuck if it's too technical, even if only software.

these days, social media is infested with paid shills protecting corporations interests. posing as "normal users" such as yourself, constantly tweaking and altering the conversation such that corporation interests are preserved. and almost everyone is completely oblivious about this, they think they are talking, and getting advice from regular people. when you pieces of shit are shills.

again, not your fucking problem what and why I want it, you piece of festering shit, traitorous mf, posing as a regular user. and you're not the only one doing this shit here.

>>105893652
This guy can't prove his amazing OC credentials yet continues to ramble about he's entitled to an unrestricted video card.
That's not what you're paying for, that's not what the board components are spec'd to handle, and that's not what the video card spec sheet is advertising.

If you're not happy with what's on offer, literally don't buy these cards. Buy RDNA2 and go move those unrestricted GUI sliders.

>>105893675
>that's not what the board components are spec'd to handle
oh you know hardware now? do tell us what's the current limits on the 9070, amaze us. let's see how much of a lying sack of shit you are.
again, not your fucking problem what I do with the GPU, don't have to justify or prove myself to anyone you idiot, who the fuck do you think you are to ask that? get fucked maggot

>>105893675
>this guy
And just who is your audience?

>>105893675
>Buy RDNA2 and go move those unrestricted GUI sliders.
it's not about being unrestricted, it's about having the ability to remove the restrictions that are factory set for normies. completely denying that access is adversarial, a major fuck you to the customers.

again, who fucking does this? who protects corpo interests like you, online? what people just fucking do that, as bad as you are? at this point corpo cock is so deep in your throat that it's pushing your intestines around

>>105893675
is this the 4080 super tard?
only one person here with that type of arrogance lmao

>>105893690
Then stfu and do the volt + power mod like the xoc bro you pretend to be.

>>105893722
Your kind isn’t worth catering, it’s as simple as that.

>>105893775
there it is, anti his own peers freak paid by corpo to fuck everyone over. traitorous piece of shit. you're not even worth your pay, you don't even know how much the 9070 vrm can take lmao. clueless piece of shit

>>105893597
b650e supports 1x pcie5 gpu and 1x pcie5 nvme. the rest run at 4.0

>>105893849
Cool, I will look into it more

>>105893882
don't think it practically matters much anyway. 5.0 or 4.0. depends on the purpose but for general use...not much difference between them.

>>105893789
You're bitching about a mass-produced GPU; only corporations have the talent & capital to develop & sell them worldwide.
These corporations made gaming video cards cheap enough to make gaming accessible to more people than ever.
Don't act like there's a non-profit GPU designer out there that can convince TSMC to make their gaming GPUs.

>you don't even know how much the 9070 vrm can take lmao. clueless piece of shit
Tell me how much they're spec'd to handle and last at least 5~7 years of ownership period.

>>105893916
>These corporations made gaming video cards cheap enough to make gaming accessible to more people than ever.
There it is lol
So everyone is supposed to feel like the corporations are doing us charity
You really are a true believer
Nevermind when things where much cheaper, with more options and generally more open.

>>105893916
>These corporations made gaming video cards cheap enough to make gaming accessible to more people than ever
ajajajajajajjajajajajajajaj you can't make this shit up I fucking swear this has to be an LLM

>>105893916
>last at least 5~7 years of ownership period.
not your fucking problem, as far as you, the corporation is concerned, once it's out of warranty you don't care, you want to sell a new one. if anything, morons breaking them means new clients. holy shit you're clueless.
also look at any review and you will see just how much the vrm can handle, and then notice the maximum it's allowed to reach with stock limits, and you'll quickly figure out it's around fucking HALF the current it can take. I pay for that shit I want to use it.
>cheap enough
>it's at msrp bro, cheaper than they ever were
fucking moron

>>105893962
Intel makes the least profit out of the gaming GPU designers; go support them.

Those 8-phase 60A DrMOS for the 9070 GPU aren't reliable enough to handle its transients when you're talking about +500~600W of sustained power draw.
70A DrMOS ICs (with 18 GPU phases) in the 3080/Ti & 3090 Strix were dying from sub-500W transients (sub-450W sustained loads).

>>105894005
>also look at any review and you will see just how much the vrm can handle, and then notice the maximum it's allowed to reach with stock limits, and you'll quickly figure out it's around fucking HALF the current it can take. I pay for that shit I want to use it.
You're not accounting for the transients; exposure to those extreme current spikes is what eventually kill those components.
That's exactly what's happening to the higher-end RTX 30 cards.

>>105893218
PBO -30
Your RAM picrel.

>>105894038
>Those 8-phase 60A DrMOS for the 9070 GPU aren't reliable enough to handle its transients
>trust me bro I know. I'll just say it with authority and you will eat it up like the good little retard that you are, and also I'm doing this because I fucking hate you, and your kind.
lying sack of shit. the mosfets are not 8 phase you fucking imbecile, you literally copied the whole block of text that you thought describes what we are talking about lmao holy fucking shit this is fucking insane.

>>105893969
What's funny is you don't even need stock RX 9070 levels of performance to play all of the "non-slop" "non-corpo" vidya games.
Just a handful of consoomers with a lack of self-awareness, thinking they're raging against MUH CORPORATIONS.

>>105894082
Where is the lie fuckface? That's a 9070 Steel Legend PCB.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-9070-steel-legend-oc/5.html

>>105894048
mosfets handle transients past their constant load rating. that 50/60A is constant load. mosfets have a higher transient capability, can be sustained for short period of times, on peaks.
here's a random 60A mosfet datasheet:
https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/stp60nf06.pdf
notice how constant load is 60A and pulsed is 240 fucking amps you absolute fucking brain rotted turd you have no fucking clue what you are talking about you moronic pseud. transients on a GPU cannot possibly be higher than wahtever the fuck your PS can handle, no way of going 4 times higher over their rating. at 10 phases that means 2000A which is dumbfuck retarded, like your mom for fucking your dad.

>>105894093
yes you turd, after i asked you what's up you went online to read about it so you give some kind of informed reply, but since you're a retarded dipshit you copied the whole thing.
irrelevant anyway, you have no clue on mosfet transient rating and don't understand that a PS will limit any transient anyway, way lower than what mosfet can cope with on peak transients. you're an absolute retard go fuck yourself moron.

>>105894104
These 8-phase 50/60A DrMOS config isn't specced to handle the level of transients that occur when the card is drawing over 500W of power.
The higher end RTX 30 series cards are proof of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbP0YRhXHCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq4ZHNldvGI

>>105894126
>don't understand that a PS will limit any transient anyway, way lower than what mosfet can cope with on peak transients.
The power supplies didn't protect the DrMOS on the higher-end RTX 30 cards from slowly degrading from all those transient spikes.
These boards aren't set up to handle the higher levels of transients when the card is drawing 500~600W of power.

Except for the RAM color (white like the mobo & gpu), this is the machine I've bought & am building; thoughts?
>mfw was rushed & drunk during the last six minutes of amazon prime day(s) and accidentally bought an open-box 5090 thinking it was brand new wtf

>>105894132
The 30 series was dying of asymmetric VRM loading, not necessarily because of transients.
If the VRM was proper, you would have less incidents of components dying even with the same mosfets.

>>105894162
>30 series was dying of asymmetric VRM loading,
The asymmetric VRM load caused more extreme transients for one set of the DrMOS.

>>105894161
>4got link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6nKV9C

>>105892614
lol wtf

>>105894177
AMD basically overspecced the 9070's hardware configuration, it's probably why they priced it $50 apart from the 9070XT.

>>105894132
the mosfets are not allowed to be commercialized you dumbfuck. any electronic part is required to sustain it's maximum load. for example electrolytic caps are required to keep their specs at maximum operating temp for the number of hours they are speccd for.
mosfets are also required to sustain the maximum advertised current capability, provided THERE IS ADEQUATE COOLING. if they fuck up the cooling, they'll melt the fuck down. or improper assembly.
again, parts meet their advertised spec or it's fake advertising. you cannot sell them as 50A parts and say "well you know, let's call it 25A max because shit happens".
and again, this discussion is not that, it's about "your traitorous kind", defending corporation slop, being clueless pieces of shit, and saying false stupid shit with authority such that the retards believe your bullshit.
you are the most retarded bot I ever debated, you are so fucking dumb, and you made so many mistakes, and your fakeness is oozing out of every letter you typed. you're fake and a fucking traitorous looser.

>>105894169
Still, 30 series isn't concrete proof that those drnos components will absolutely die, especially as AIBs have gotten better at designing VRMs for the bursty load of modern GPUs and each phase gets a more even share.

>>105894189
>the mosfets are not allowed to be commercialized you dumbfuck.
if they don't meet their spec

>>105894189
>mosfets are also required to sustain the maximum advertised current capability, provided THERE IS ADEQUATE COOLING. if they fuck up the cooling, they'll melt the fuck down. or improper assembly.
Except transient current spikes can exceed the advertised current rating, and is proven to kill the ICs.
The limit in the image is for a 70A DrMOS, the 50/60A ICs in the 9070 have even lower maximum current limits.

>>105894205
These kids are whining about not being able to let a 9070, with inferior 8-phase 50/60A DrMOS, draw over 500~600W of power.

>>105891522
I just have a bunch of thermistors connected to my 5090 so I can monitor temps from the top/bottom and psu side and trigger shutdowns if they are too high. Hope that's enough. if not, oh well. Lifes too short to be worrying about every little thing that could possibly happen.

>>105894183
rdna3 is way more overspec for VRM. those things are bulletproof tanks. and with no OC that was a massive waste.

>>105894227
nobody argued they should have factory allowed 600W on those you dipshit

>>105894230
RDNA3 was already getting bad press about its inferior power efficiency.

>>105894248
AIBs need to upgrade the 9070's VRM config if they're expected to handle all the transient that comes with a GPU drawing over 500W of power.
We're talking RTX 5090 levels of power delivery for a sub $600 "MSRP" card, nearly triple the phases.

>>105894227
I read over the lines a bit and the only thing I noticed was one anon constantly screaming corpo boot licker cause companies won't allow them out of the box to fry their GPU.

>>105894258
with hardware mods some people push over 1000W on XTX. they're that good.
also this efficiency thing is some weird bullshit, never have I heard anyone complaining about it. it's like some fake issue people invented to complain about. that's matters none for gaming. only for datacenters and shit. nobody give a fuck about some obscure % efficiency more or less. people just play or OC. datacenters care about that shit lol

>>105891488 (OP)
I think I am finally getting somewhere with my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vzgcLc

Advice would definitely be welcome. I would especially appreciate input regarding the motherboard, for now I put the cheapest option as a placeholder. I really dont know what to look for in a motherboard besides the obvious CPU compatibility.

>>105894302
this level of delusional revisionist history is hilarious coming from an amdrone

>the utter madness that is buying a variety of USB cables and making sure they're good for what you actually want them for
I don't care how much it costs, the next time I'll need to do this bullshit I'm just buying thunderbolt everything at 8x the markup

>>105894296
Do your part and don't buy products made by corporations.
Don't be a hypocrite. Gaming PC building is one of the most corpo-bootlicking hobby.

>>105894290
stop misrepresenting my point you stupid piece of shit. I never said manufacturers should sell them as 600W cards. I said they shouldn't have made it impossible to OC for an obscure number of people that would have gone through the software hoops to do it.
so stop reframing what I said so the bullshit you spewed so far makes any fucking sense. it's like you have no fucking shame, willing to do and say and reframe everything just so your bullshit makes any fucking sense.
you are a people hater and corpo piss gargler, go fuck yourself you traitorous piece of shit. no you don't understand the overall view better than dirty pleb, you're a deranged fucking lunatic hating humans because you were hurt. you hate yourself idiot.

>>105894336
why be surprised? they locked the 5800X3D from OC too it's not like it's new ground

>>105894322
>um ahkshually it doesn't matter if the cpu cooks itself (95c+), its designed to do that now
>umm ahkshually, i want my gpu to draw 1000 watts, efficiency is a meme now
>upscaling and ai fake frames are actually good now that our team has decent ripoffs
It never ends with those losers huh

>>105894344
that's because they already oc the shit out of it from factory lol. stock ones are burning up like crazy.

>>105894336
>I said they shouldn't have made it impossible to OC for an obscure number of people that would have gone through the software hoops to do it.
A literal tech tuber can show you how to flash the 9070's vBIOS.
The hardest part is finding a reasonably priced one with dual BIOS support.

>RDNA3
No one cares about that abortion; your ethical, honest AMD abandoned it.

>>105894345
>>105894322
stop talking to yourself loser

>>105894367
ah so you are the same sick individual after all. who hurt you bro? think taking it out on the rest of the world is going to heal that wound? it won't. no amount of pissing on dirty pleb will ever heal your wound dude. seek help. your farts are as foul as anyone else's.

So when are the jannies going to properly rename this place to /amdg/

>>105894367
>No one cares about that abortion; your ethical, honest AMD abandoned it.
XTX still the most powerful AMD GPU to date.

>amd finally gets DLSS3 equivalent, ie something that isn't as good as SotA but is good enough for most
>this leads to AMDrones starting a holy war against nvidia which shits up every single thread since 9070 released
dunno why I even come here desu, pcbg is an imageboard version of a youtube grifter with basedface thumbnails

>>105894391
why would they? this thread is constantly brigaded by Njudean buyers remorse shills and Ranjeesh paid shills for intel-aviv and Njudea.

>>105894391
>>105894396
see >>105894368

>>105894395
The 9070 XT isn't that far off.

>>105894407
9070ZT is actually better on RT. but still, too early to dismiss RDNA3.

>>105894423
>but still, too early to dismiss RDNA3.
What do you mean too early? It will age worse because it can't support FSR4 as performantly as the 9070 XT can.
The moment you need to rely on FSR, the 9070 XT is clearly the better card.

590.26 has 40 series support for smooth motion btw. It seems to have all of the latest fixes from 576.88 as well. Try it if you have a 40 series card.

>>105894448
>590.26
We're on that already? Damn, RIP GTX cards

>>105894444
since the XTX rips raster more than the XT I'd say it's too early to dismiss it. it's literally the most performant AMD GPU to date wtf and has 24GB of VRAM.
you could say RDNA2 is retired, sure

>>105894464
It's an extremely early preview driver for https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/ser/

The next big driver branch is still 580.xx, and then 590.xx will probably release 4-5 months from now.

>>105894423
>too early to dismiss RDNA3
???
FSR3 is trash and using FSR4 has a hilarious performance cost
it's fuckin dead and buried
>>105894448
>smooth motion
use case?
is it purely for fps-locked games like meme ring or fallout?

>>105894492
>use case?
In games that don't support DLSS or FG and just run like shit (maxed out). I played through Expedition 33 with it and it didn't have any issues.

>>105894391
can Nvidiots at least hardware mod their 50 series? like at fucking all? or are they fully cucked out of it?

>>105894503
didn't jayz2cents literally just do that

>>105891488 (OP)
I've finally wore down the plastic on the side of my mouse, like I've put an actual hole in it. What do I buy for under $50 that will last me over a decade like this one did?

>>105894492
>FSR3 is trash and using FSR4 has a hilarious performance cost
you can at least hardware mod it lol. get more raster none of that fake AI bullshit. but I guess you'd take AI and cucking out of OC because that's where you feel comfy at, in your cuck cage.

>>105894492
FSR4 is better quality than native and more fps than native on RDNA3

>>105894466
The gap between the two cards isn't that big.

>and has 24GB of VRAM.
The 9070 XT isn't VRAM-starved for gaming, and is very unlikely to be in the future.

>>105894503
everything can be shunt modded, i don't know what your obsession is with modding gpus, amdrone-kun, but it's been a thing on nvidia since it has existed

>>105894533
buying 4070 on release was the best hardware decision I ever did

>>105894532
You're missing the point that the 9070 XT runs significantly better than the 7900 XTX if both cards have FSR4 enabled.

>>105894535
does it give you extra 40% performance like 9070 does? uh...I guess not huh.

>>105894555
They both easily get 100+ fps at native unless you're playing at 4k. So FSR4 native at 1440p is better quality than native and better fps. There's no downside. You are only creating a downside by uncapping your fps and causing tearing and input judder.

>>105894555
>nvidiot defends fsr4 on rdna4 to shit on rdna3 just to shit on amd somehow
military grade brain rot

>>105894552
People who bought the 4070 @ Microcenter with the $100 Steam Gift Card promotion did pretty damn well.
5070 isn't bad if you're willing to tone down VRAM-intensive settings if you run into that kind of game.

Time to put amdjeets in their place again, there's too many on this general.
Imagine playing games without ai driven features that work best on the Nvidia RTX Blackwell series, like ray reconstruction, DLAA, and frame generation.

>>105894555
It's still better than native and running at hz cap so what's the issue

>>105894571
>They both easily get 100+ fps at native unless you're playing at 4k
You bought a 24GB VRAM card to play games @ 1440p?

>>105894583
>t. insecure RDNA3 bag holder.

>>105894587
>skull fuck me AI daddy, I want fake everything
weird

>>105894595
>It's still better than native
It's really not, even with the proton update you mentioned.
Did you really buy a 7900 XTX 24GB card to game @ 1440p?

>>105894609

Why are cases such flimsy plastic and glass crap nowadays. Where are the cases for the straight white man? Aka steel with solid side panels, case should weigh at least 10kg.

>>105894644
ASUS Helios

>>105894587
based I love playing path-traced unreal tournament 2004

>>105894644
basically a SnapOn tool box

>>105894651
Oh nevermind without glass panels.

>>105894644
>tfw I built a HTPC in a Mastercase 5 because it was the only case I had available

>>105894651
that's still an estrogen case

>>105894587
>quake 2 RTX
>publisher: lightspeed studios
>lightspeed studios is an internal division of NVIDIA corporation
>>105894637
>half life 2 RTX
>publisher: orbifold studios
>a new community team, formed by NVIDIA and includes 4 top modding teams

>>105894676
Yea I misread the part with the solid side panels. Case is made of Aluminium which is kinda nice especially the white version but it has all the RGB and glass garbage cause it's a """gaming""" case.

>>105894688
He's not a serious poster; he's just bored.
Wouldn't be surprised if he owns a Radeon card.

>>105894688
>lightspeed studios is an internal division of NVIDIA corporation
>a new community team, formed by NVIDIA and includes 4 top modding teams
Yes, problem homo?

>>105894705
check out Corsair Vengeance C70 or maybe Cougar Dust 2 for smaller form factor

Remember that the faggots screeching about GPUs owns a RTX 4070

>>105894719
>Cougar Dust 2
that's kinda cool but mini ITX? Tool box taken a bit too literally.

>>105894719
meant for
>>105894644

>>105894732
The 4070 Ti (12GB) or the 4080 weren't worth buying.
You either went 4070 or the 4090 if you were buying an NVIDIA card for that generation.

>>105894705
Aluminium is for weak LGBTQ++++ types who can't handle steel because its "too heavy". Keep your flimsy estrogen metal.

>>105894786
a limp wristed 5'2 zoomer wrote this post

Will a 9070XT be a good upgrade from 4070Ti or should I go for 5070Ti?

>>105895034
you are asking in a den of amd fanatics

>>105893616
For you? If you have to ask, no.
Relative to MSRP? If it's one of those fancy AIB cards with three (3) fans, $600 premium isn't that bad.
For a reference card? No.
In general? It's aight, but I wouldn't rush out to buy it.
>>105893630
The general cope is that you can spend $3,000 on these cards and then magically make your money back. Which is not that simple and not a single person gives a specific example of what to do because there isn't one. You end up jerking off to your imaginary AI waifu and then get bored of it and realize you wasted all that money. At least you have that VRAM and raw rasterization performance though.

>>105891488 (OP)
>5070
>With OLED
Why people are retarded

>>105895034
9070xt and 5070ti are exactly the same except has stable drivers and the other is a datacenter driver not meant for consumers

>>105895090
Speaking of retards... It's insane how Intel is already (probably) going to do ANOTHER socket for their next Core Ultra whatever the fuck its called. Of course you shouldn't buy Intel anyway but that level of incompetence and arrogance is incredible. So you're at a dead end if you bought their latest and greatest Arrow Lake chips.

>>105895152
Meteor Lake-S was supposed to be the first desktop CPU for the LGA 1851 platform, but that CPU turned out to be too shit to mass-produce.
So, 1851 boards are getting Arrow Lake + Refresh.

>>105895034
5080/5090 or wait another generation. In fact you should do that anyways, why are you trying to swap your card out after 2 years with gen on gen improvements the way they are?
>>105895090
???

>>105895174
No specific reason just feeling the need to switch up

>>105895174
Blackwell is such mediocre slop that I'd just wait for Rubin in 2026. Insignificant uplift, meme AI technology, and pricing aren't worth the hassle.

>forced dychotomy between two shit sides
>CEOs are cousins
>nobody else manages to get in
>prices keep going up despite current_year
>controlled monopoly
brehs I think we're being played and fucked in the ass

I am stupid for thinking the next gen playstation will basically be only a bit faster than the pro but with better rt/ai capabilities? Like maybe equal to a 5060ti or 5070 (non ti) at most?
I genuinely don't understand how much more than that would be possible unless they try to charge like $1500

>>105895655
how much power does a ps5 pro draw?

>>105895691
Like 230ish watts

>>105895655
You're not stupid, that's the hardware budget.
Switch 2 shows console gamers don't demand state-of-the-art hardware.
Sony will probably target 4K 60FPS with FSR4/5 upscaling.

The CPU is going to be a massive improvement from a mobile Ryzen 3800.
Sony can't price out normies, especially when they're relying more on MTX revenue.
I don't expect it to cost more than $700.

>>105893134
Your CPU or PSU. It happened to me last year.
The issue was gone after I replaced them.

>>105894587
259w vs 362w
and amdrone crying like a bitch when 14600k running @180w

>>105895825
I think literally all of the blackwell cards starting from the 5070 you can shave off another like 100w for 0%-4% of your stock performance.

>>105895655
PS5 and PS4 and even PS3 GPUs have always been mid range compared to PC. Radeon 7850, RX 6700, GeForce 7xxx, etc. I don't see PS6 being any different, it will be UDNA but the mid range SKU while PC gets the high and low.

>>105895845

>>105894587
once again DLSS-pedo-schizo, nobody actually cares about memetracing, its a lazy shortcut for pajeet code monkeys who are too incompetent and stupid to actually model shadows correctly, and has such a huge performance cost that only buyers remorse retards like you tries to justify it.

kys/stop touching kids, and stop posting forever, pedo.

>>105895655
yes you're stupid. The cpu-limitations on both the xbox and ps5 are bad, they need to be way stronger so that FSR and frame gen works due to the additional cpu overhead. I recall some testers for the ps5-pro found that there was already noticeable cpu-bottlenecks found with certain games.

The next console gen will be very expensive, the high price of the switch 2 is testament to that, it'll still be the cheapest of the 3, assuming XBOX releases a new console at all.

>>105895715
>>105895863
Not so fast, /r/amd_stock and MLID coming in with the truth nvke:
>Basily info from a recent MLID episode linked by the article.
>Sony's upcoming PlayStation 6, powered by AMD's next-gen Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU architecture, promises performance twice as fast as the PS5 Pro, enabling 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming with advanced ray tracing and AI. It aims to be the most powerful console by 2027.
>Grand Theft Auto 6 arrives in 2026 and will showcase the power inside of Sony's beefed-up PS5 Pro console, but if Sony can drop the next-gen PS6 in 2027, then they'll have the most powerful console ever made to run the biggest game of all time at (let's hope) 4K 120FPS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/comments/1lykxql/playstation_6_performance_estimates_double_ps5/

>>105895926
>MLID

What do people care about hardware speculation and rumours anyway
>oh boy I'll buy sonys console in 2029 because mlid said it's going to run cp at 100 fps using fsr 4 quality mode
its just noise

>>105896002
rumors and leaks are started by the companies themselves. it's a whole marketing thing. building up hype for their product. don't trust anything you hear and whenever some new product is launched always assume you're being shafted somehow that is harder to initially understand. they are not your friend and they want your hard earned money

>>105895926
PS6 has to be under 300w tdp. PS5 Pro is only 230w. They're not doing 4k 120fps or 8k60fps at under 300w total system draw.

>>105896050
4K 120 FPS might be possible with performance preset + upscaling + frame generation, marketed as advanced AI features.

>>105895925

I want Strix Halo to keep evolving. Hopefully AMD doesn't abandon it

My HDR flickering when I click between displays is getting way worse. It used to never happen at all, now it's fucking constant. I don't know how it would have deteriorated this badly. Changing the monitor FPS cap didn't change anything.
Could changing the HDMI cables for my monitors change anything? Would you guys have any to recommend if it could?

>>105896090
basically the game is running at 1080p and the 60fps is framegenned by x2

what mid range GPUs already do

>>105896093
No one in here plays Flu Kong.

which one do you recommend? Good airflow and small as possible
DeepCool MACUBE 110 LIMITED
DeepCool MATREXX 30
DeepCool Matrexx 40 3FS
DeepCool CC360 ARGB
DeepCool mATX CH360 Black
all of them are deepcool because my third world country doesnt have any matx cases other than these

>>105896132
maybe the heat these days? try a fan blowing on the back of it

>>105896159
I wouldn't think so.

>>105896132
HDR flicker? Are you talking about VRR flicker ?

>>105896132
It's probably MPO related. Nvidia still tells people to disable it with their registry hack.

>>105896182
The HDR does the flicker like when it's off and it was just turned on or vice versa, it will happen when I start a game, when I click full screen on a video player. That wasn't a big deal and I ignored it. But now it's starting to do it when I click between displays.

>>105896195
Can you elaborate? Because there was no hardware change between when this issue started to worsen I had assumed it was some sort of nvidia bullshit causing this, or I needed to replace something like my monitors/hdmi cables/gpu.

>>105896207
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157/~/after-updating-to-nvidia-game-ready-driver-461.09-or-newer%2C-some-desktop-apps

>>105896207
Revert to the last stable NVIDIA display driver version if you think the new one is causing problems.

>>105896151
>DeepCool mATX CH360 Black
This one looks like it will have the better airflow.

>>105896213
I'll try that, thanks
>>105896220
It wasn't all at once though, the issue kept getting worse. If it suddenly happened after updating drivers I would have noticed it. My current driver is from March 18th.

>>105896093
pedo-schizo, yet again again, NOBODY CARES ABOUT MEMETRACING, your shitty graphs and autism don't matter and aren't valid arguments, stop posting.

The best lighting engine in a real game, instead of a screenshot simulator like cyberpunk, is Helldivers 2 on pc, which doesnt use memetracing. Njudea pushes it for turd world coders and AAA goyslop factories. Stop coping by spamming and just kys pedo schizo.

>>105896207
nta, probably driver corruption, when too many errors pile up internally it can cause issues in other seemingly unrelated areas. reinstall your NJudean drivers.

>>105896254
He's not the DLSS mass replier; he's baiting people like you.

why can't evropeans design a proper gpu since their cpu architecture is the most widespread one on this planet? seems like an oversight

>>105896245
I tried the registry change, that wasn't it. I'll just update the drivers now and hope that fixes it.

>>105896283
>since their cpu architecture is the most widespread one on this planet
operating system architecture is also the most widespread on this planet. it's really troubling there's no gpu coming from them

>>105896254
FSR3 btw

>>105896293
Wow that actually seems to have done it. I can't remember the last time that has actually worked.

>>105896241
thank you for your suggestion!

>>105896321
Thank MS for the bullshit.

>>105896263
i see now, he's just a 60iq troll, no arguments, just shill-bait, ill report and ignore in future.

>>105896283
cpus and gpus are entirely different beasts, and developing hardware+software in that field is a billion dollar R&D enterprise, you can't just fake it, hell, china tried, they tried to bankroll their own cpus, they stole all the IP they needed from Intel-aviv and AMD, but they couldnt do it, they released a gov-only series of cpus that were dogshit in comparison to anything at the time. They were 2001-era-tier cpus.

how come cases look like this nowadays?
read: kinda gay
i was wanting to put a server in my old case and buy a new one, but new cases look like pic related instead of the brutalist monument of my 15 year old case

>>105896404
Airflow trend

>>105896404
Because PC gamers are an important DIY demographic to capture.
Workstation builders can settle with one of the Fractal cases or the ProArt.

I prefer black cases with solid side panels, but these aren’t as popular as they used to be.

we need new thread

>>105896444
Wait for the bump limit, this place slowed down since the DLSS/FSR/VRAM shitflinging died down.

>>105896444
why do we need a new thread 20h before this one archives

>>105896482
> why do we need a new thread 20h before this one archives
its limit

>>105896379
That didn't fix it, the driver update did

it's hard to go back to 160hz after playing on a 240hz oled

>>105896115
> Halo
No

Next:
>>105896556
>>105896556
>>105896556

>>105822033 >>105822033

>>105894304
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vzgcLc
If you just want an 8-core CPU for gaming, a 7700X is the more economical choice.
You don't need to buy an X870E board if you're not going to use all the extra PCIe lanes & USB options.
https://www.techspot.com/guides/2901-amd-ryzen-x870-b850-b840-x670-b650-a620-motherboards/

This one's fine if you need/want USB4, but read the spec sheet's fine print regarding the bandwidth limitations
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d7zXsY/asus-prime-x870-p-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-prime-x870-p-wifi
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-x870-p/techspec/

Alternative
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WzzXsY/msi-mag-x870-tomahawk-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-mag-x870-tomahawk-wifi
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-X870-TOMAHAWK-WIFI/Specification

is removing dust filter mesh from front intake on a PC a good idea if the mesh obstructs airflow of the front fans anyway?

>>105892373
AMDs claims have it beating a 4090

>noticed gnome-terminal.real .perl gnome-terminal in htop
>look at a huge wrapper script
>get rid of gnome-terminal stuff and anything that had a corresponding ppid
>apt autoremove
>im in tty installing xfce
>remove gvfsd gdm3 ubuntu-desktop nautilus ubuntu-setting all that removed everything

other than qt scaling pissing me off xfce is nice looking and uses gtk with dark mod and i still get apt repositories. starts with light dm now and all around i think its pretty clean took a while to configure but i can move around faster in xfce4 when you click a task open on panel it opens click it again it closes
>onebraincell.jpeg

what would you guys recommend disable or delete next? how much bloat can i get rid of? how much can i change before its not ubuntu anymore? or rather, what linux distro would you guys recommend wand exactly why you use it?

i really like apt repositories. the software is always in there soo you can really utilize the apt search with grep and actually get software in under a minute, no package manager needed.
why must i change everything about the system am i just becoming an arch user?

i might ask you guys to redpill me on a new system because im still a bit of a noob ngl.