Airpods.

>>105893215 (OP)
bose qc good

still using my philips shp9500 that i bought 10 years ago

What are some good wired over-ears around $75? I currently have an old Massdrop x AKG M220 Pro, which are a spinoff of the AKG K240, but they're falling apart.

depreciated by $1 iems

>>105893215 (OP)
>desktop
Razer Kraken Tournament Edition
>laptop
AirPods 4

>>105893215 (OP)
What Bluetooth ANC headphones should I buy? The XM6's look great but flimsier than the XM4's and twice the price. Also not buying anything that uses a goddamn 2.5mm Headphone cable.

>>105894521
Whatever feels most comfortable to you
Sound quality differences of a 10% range don't matter when you can't comfortably wear them for more than 30 minutes at a time

>>105894558
Goid point, guess I'm going to Best Buy then

>>105893589
>What are some good wired over-ears
A myth. A legend.

>>105893215 (OP)
just use IEMs and stop deforming your skull

Has anyone here tried Anker's SoundCore Q11i? Are they any good?

QCYchad here

dollar tree sells many for 5 bucks

>>105893480
gay and extremely overhyped
>>105893375
trvke. they're like my EQd HD600's except closed
/thread

anyone else have a head so big that half the headphones out there are too small even when extended all the way

>>105893215 (OP)
dt770 pro 80ohm
there you have the only headphone that matters, the rest is worthless junk, especially open headphones

>>105893215 (OP)
I've enjoyed using my T50RPs for the past 7 years. Maybe I'll drop some stacks on a pair of Stax someday.

>>105897074
>one of the worst headphones anyone could possibly buy
low quality bait, stop being poor and buy an actual good pair of closed backs

>>105897074
ear torture device that only appeal to subhuman spergs

>>105897059
Most headphones are for manlets. This is undeniable. At least hifi and chifi have reasonably sized cups.

>>105897182
even if I was billionaire that's the only headphone I'd ever buy
>>105897188
still the best there is

>>105897192
>chifi have reasonably sized cups.
except chifi cups will fall off because they are too chinky to make anything thats not built horribly. Many such cases
go with pic related if you giga cups

>>105897201
>>>105897182 (You)
>even if I was billionaire that's the only headphone I'd ever buy
Why do the dt 770 and 6xx people always act like this? You people own 1 single budget option and you think it's the only thing in that world that matters, literally every other closed back in that tier is better

>>105897218
apologies for all my grammar mistakes, i legit think i'm having a stroke jesus christ

>>105897218
Amateur

>>105897263
whats with this fella?

>>105897218
>Why do the dt 770 and 6xx people always act like this?
because $200 is the price point where anything over this is placebo trash
the dt770 and the hd6xx sound good enough for 99% ofthe population and the dt is very sturdy which is more important than audio.
>You people own 1 single budget option and you think it's the only thing in that world that matters, literally every other closed back in that tier is better
I've tried a wide range of trashphone from 200 to slightly under 1000€ and was disappointed everytime, nothing over 200 is worth the money audio-wise and I'm note spending over a grand on this, and yes it was on a very good setup and my audition is well above average for my age group and I can heard 22kHz frequencies so definitely not a (you) issue.
I've tried thing from beyerdynamic, sennheiser, focal, audio technica and more, disappointed every time so 4 years ago I gave up and bought the dt770 80ohm and a audient evo 4 sound card, best audio purchase of my life and it was under 200€.
>literally every other closed back in that tier is better
wrong, absolutely wrong, I've tried mdr-7506, mv1, m50x, stellia, 1770 or hd250 and the dt770 was still better overall (the mv1 is dogshit for the price)
I've heard that the fiio ft1 is good but I haven't tried as I'm not changing my dt770 anytime soon.
what else would you recommend under $1k? I don't want to have my amazon account banned so I can't just send back every headphone that I buy anymore.
>>105897249
who gives a fuck, no one knows how to write correct english included americans, we're all esltards now (me included)

>>105897372
>I've heard that the fiio ft1 is good but I haven't tried as I'm not changing my dt770 anytime soon.
the drivers were falling off so i would avoid that, and pardon my prior obnoxious rant I dealt with a week of retards on /mu/ that gave me no faith in humanity
anyways the headphones i would argue that are better would be the a990z,for some people probably the m40x or m50x although they are probably trash also and it's going to be personal on that, and the aeon, at least used because they go for almost nothing anymore in the west and also the ether cx, but if your in euro land i don't think they get there often, let alone for the piss prices in the west.

>what else would you recommend under $1k? I don't want to have my amazon account banned so I can't just send back every headphone that I buy anymore.
I love my hd 800's, i got a german early sn model for 800 canuck dollars, i also own the aeon closed and open, but i must admit i've had to mod the aeon because the leather wore out and is now a strap of hard leather and it pisses me off. I won't comment on anything i havn't owned and the best pairs i've had are the hd 800 by a land slide and can't see myself ever finding something I like as much as these but I know the msrp for them is quite high if you can't find them used for a massive discount

if you like your current set up I wouldnt bother changing it, but if your going to try one more headphone I would just demo the hd 800, I would agree that most people should never pass the hd 6xx tier tho, although drop has gotten so retarded over the years i don't even know how much longer that will last. A while ago they even tried charging 269$ usd for the 6xx which was parody of the 650/600, hilarious

>>105897479
>ATH-A990Z
>Ether CX
haven't tried these two, I'll see if I can test them at some point

>>105897500
I really liked the a990z, but the headband is so fucking retarded. Strangely they are made in japan, when most of at's shit is either from chinks or sub chinks in taiwan. If people can tolerate it's headband its a pretty fun headphone to use
the ether cx is such a strange headphone, it has by far the best instrument separation of any headphone i've tried. I only had them for a few weeks so i can't really compare them to the analytical nature of the hd 800 but they are worth considering for closed backs. Especially considering a shit load of them have ended on auctions for low $300 which is insane

>>105897372
>because $200 is the price point where anything over this is placebo trash
Headphones don't even start until $800 bro.

How does /head/ feel about these?

>>105897526
After $$400 you start getting diminishing returns

>>105897534
No bro, you literally don't get headphones that play all frequencies without distortion until $800. And the tuning scales until $4000 depending on your preferences/willingness to EQ. Everything below that is unsalvageable.

>>105897527
When you put them on your balls are gone.

>>105897562
Where can you even test headphones at this pricepoint before buying?

>>105897562

>>105897626
The headphone store.

I pulled the trigger on these. Im willing to pay the goy tax for all buttons and no touch controls.

>>105897527
it's just normal fag slop, they don't even know why they want anc or wireless it's just marketing terms that they remember being fed. It's one thing if you need those things but most people don't and for the price they are objectively horrible for sound quality,comfort, build quality, materials, basically anything really. Sure some people travel all the time and it's great for that but let's be honest with ourselves, when some tranny uses these in a quiet room with a cable anyways it's just embarrassing. The anime marketing is smart though, iems are basically an industry completely run on marketing total slop with chink drawn anime style girls, and it's incredibly effective
>>105897626
there are headphone events like canjam where all those kinds of companies all come to show their products off with insane things like 10k amps and shit, tyll senpai had a vid series on it. Here is one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSN9MTz3Hgs&pp=ygUVaW5uZXJmaWRpbGl0eSBjYW4gamFt

>EQ'ed M50x
Let me guess, you "need" more?

>>105897768
eq is not going to stop the skullrape of no padding anon

>>105893215 (OP)
hd800s with dekoni elite hybrid pads and hart audio cable

What even is the difference between open back and closed back? Which is better?

>>105897854
Open-backs are better at openness. Closed-backs are better at closedness.

>>105897790
How do you fix the tuning?

>>105897854
open are easier to tune and design, tend to have more sound stage and are usually better than closed backs in same price tier with a few exceptions. In general avoid closed back unless you need sound isolation. But it's quite literal as well, the driver not being blocked by solid materials and usually has a grill off little holes to protect the driver and let air through it. They are also quite good at preventing heat build up

i've never seen tyll-chan so happy about a headphone before, it's such a shame the headbands snap but now I want to buy one.
https://youtu.be/KOSXKhciz6Y

is there a convenient way to swap between desktop speakers and headphones? everytime i plug in my headphones all my audio still goes through my speakers or jumbles between both..

>>105893215 (OP)
Battery LOW, please recharge headset.

which 1 do i get, technically i would like to use headphones for traveling/commute and sometimes on desktop for multiplayer games and such, should i just get the xm4?

>>105897935
Preamp: -3.9 dB
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>>105897074
I've looked these up and decided to buy them purely because they look comfy

>>105898216
ft1 drivers fall off. Planars require some level of competency that the chicoms haven't seemed to grasp with their cost cutting measures, basically with the increased weight you need to use better materials or have better designed headbands, which they won't do to cut corners so they are all bad. tldr buy aeons if you want planars.
Anyways ranting aside if those are the only two options and you want to use them as a hybrid i definitely would not get the ft1. If you don't need sound cancelling you can save money and get the m40x if you don't care about wireless and want to save money and avoid charging, unless anc is important to you. There are also some koss on ears that are incredibly cheap for portable use, I'm going to get some myself because iems cause me so much pain
>>105898350
comfy is not the word i'd use considering they skullfuck you with clamp and without eqing the treble they are very tiring to listen to. If you want comfy and don't want to spend much the hd 599 is one of the best options, there is also the 560s but i've only had the 599 in the past and i'm told the 560 is more clampy.

>>105898375
>they skullfuck you with clamp
I don't have this issue, even day one, I've had clamp issues in the past with hd518/560 but it faded away under a month of daily usage for both
>without eqing the treble they are very tiring to listen to
I find them very well balanced, I uninstalled EqualizerAPO because I didn't feel the need for it anymore unlike with my hd599 that I had just before.
>If you want comfy and don't want to spend much the hd 599 is one of the best options
yeah I agree, the hd599 feels very good on the head but it's open back... if they ever make a closed back hd599 I might consider dropping my dt770
>only had the 599 in the past and i'm told the 560 is more clampy.
yeah, they're similar to hd518 that I also had in the past, weirdly the 599 didn't, I was surprised because they look and feel really similar

>>105898417
>if they ever make a closed back hd599 I might consider dropping my dt770
hd 569 is the same shell, thats all my knowledge of it though. I hope it doesn't suck because that would be a great option for all these anons seeking closed backs that aren't so uncomfortable
Beyers shit in general really gives me a headache, i owned the dt 880 twice, and the 770 pros next to me just feel so horribly made. one of the dt 880s had it's hinge snap on the first month i owned it and the 770's feel like they are going to snap whenever i put them on my head. I can't even imagine how bad it's going to get if the long term plan on the chink acquisition is changing where they are made, it'll be akg all over again with flawed designs and then hyper accelerated by chinks qc problems

>>105898451
>I can't even imagine how bad it's going to get if the long term plan on the chink acquisition is changing where they are made
shit I didn't know about it, guess it's joever for them, I should pile up on dt770 before they sneakily nerf them with worse components...

>>105898477
The chinese cannot make anything good on their own, thats why they have to steal and buy ips out. They bought stax in 2011 because those fucking retarded japs couldn't manage to maintain a proper business model in a time where most good headphones werent even out yet and they could of just ran circles on everything. They are just total fucking retarded bug people, of all the naming the chinks could come up with they decided to go with indian words, at least schiit with their total garbage pile of nigger trash had the self awareness to at least copy nordic words. Even if it makes no sense as to why and their explanations are totally gay and retarded

Is the manufacturer's "tuning" exactly the same as EQ? Or is more physical? I ask because if I'm going to EQ anyway, maybe I shouldn't bother judging frequency response of the stock product at all

>>105898526
hardware/software. If you eq headphones with a lot of distortion you just get even more distortion. When you eq a headphone, at least a lot of time it's just in reference to the harman curve which is a point of reference for audio. It's just what's thought to be the ideal sound frequency response, but some people, if not most people won't like headphones set to that responce. Obviously everyone is familiar with bass heads or people who like the analytical nature of more treble. But it's worth reading up on ideal frequency responses and how they came up with the harman curve.
There are some other things that go into the response, such as filters,worn or unworn pads, distance from the ear to the driver and that applies to most headphones, thats also why dan clark gives little filters with his products, and why anons for years have done things like add tissues to headphones. Interesting enough tyll at innerfidility noted the lack of difference when measuring the hd 800 in different positions, which was quite unique at least at the time for headphones, where there would be quite a different between positioning and response.
If you are always going to eq headphones you should really focus on the amount of harmonic distortion that the headphone has

over ear headphones are such a sad and dead category compared to IEMs

>>105893215 (OP)
Don't buy OP's pic related
The sound profile sucks and ANC whistles in the left speaker and it will hiss in wired mode
Both are somewhat easily audible if you don't play anything and either way its unacceptable considering the cheaper XM4 has none of those problems

>>105899117
they just tend to be expensive because no one is going to spend the time and effort to make something insane for $200, the materials they have to use would already make it pointless, even before r&d. Iems are churned out like trash because it literally does not matter, they have no material costs or real r&d because the only that that matters to the iem consumer is an anime girl on the packaging and how they are painted. There is no need to worry about what design you need for some 750g headphone, it's just how well can you put out the exact same earbud for the prime market of sub $100.
This is nothing new unfortunately, even with other industries this tends to be the case. It's a lot easier to convince someone to buy the same thing for $20-100 a million times than it is to get them to buy a one time purchase that will last basically forever.
A classic example of that was when SWATCH of all companies, making literal plastic trash that snapped and corroded away had the best marketing strategy that allowed them to buy up 100 year old swiss watch companies as they went bankrupt (tissot,hamilton,breitling,omega etc.) even with the mass marketing and novelty that companies like omega had, literally making the moon watch.
tldr it'll always be more profitable to pump out low cost trash than anything that requires thought and skill

>>105899154
thanks. Very disappointing, and very snoy to have regressions.

Talk me out of buying Sennheiser Momentum 4's please guys I swear I'm gonna do it

>>105899321

>>105899356
Has that affected product performance vs. the competitors?

How to make it so voices and high pitched shit doesn't pierce eardrums?

>>105899503
minus 1-3dB to ranges between 4.8khz - 9.5khz

>>105899503
use peaceeq + equalizer apo. There is an autoeq setting that you can use to search for your headphones and a few different eq options should come up.
>>105899491
probably not i just wanted to post a funny, it's also from last year before companies started realizing pride shit was hurting them

>>105899569
How does it compare against the competitors (MX4/5 and others)?

i just got a sub $20 pair of IEMs from amazon. great quality.

>>105893375
Too much static and not that great sound quality

>>105898216
Not the sony headphones thats for sure

>>105897527
The headphones are pretty much the only desing I can wear that doesn't hurt or gets uncomfy to the point its unbearable after an hour
Sounds good enough to me too
The earbuds were a disappointment, was expecting the same type of features but it's uncomfortable and way too bassy, Sony Linkbuds s mogged them

>Phone
AirPods Pro
Bose QC Ultra
>Computer
Steelseries Arctis 7
Don't need anything more apart from battery replacements tbqh

>>105899740

>>105901379
and then hpg fucking died

got my gf the bose quiet comfort ultra and the anc is pretty good
wanted to get a pair for myself
are the new sony m6 worth the price or should I get another quiet comfort on sale

>>105901551
i don't trust sony since the fuck ups with both the in-ears (battery) and the hinges on the XM5. I have the QC Ultras and wouldn't swap them for the XM6

>>105901390
I guess everyone got an actual good pair and left it at that, instead of chasing new product constantly.

Should i buy Austrian Audio Hi-X60 ?
im looking for balanced closed headphones

>>105901390
Everyone got Stax and moved on. Meanwhile IEMfags need new sloppa constantly.
t. knower
Zero Reds are pretty good, though. Still shittier than any decent planar or electrostat but better than Beyer treblecannons or chinkfiman slop.
>>105901911
Distortion wise those are very good but the FR is a little messy. Would be quite good after some EQ so if you don't mind that, sure.

>>105901390
I'm 99.9% sure hpg posters moved on to iemg because they needed a new brand of autism to chase

>>105902253
>Everyone got Stax and moved on. Meanwhile IEMfags need new sloppa constantly.
>t. knower
probably honestly, or something of that nature. It's quite depressing seeing how many trash 1k+ headphones still exist, where they aren't even trying anymore and some how still have qc or design flaws like the focal clear or audeze with that stupid fucking wood trash or chinkfiman with everything being horrible even the susvara with their dying drivers.
I stopped at HD 800's and aeons, initially I wasn't even going to get hd 800's but everything in it's price range was so fucking hyper bad or significantly more expensive I couldn't be bothered.
Kind of feels like there is no where else to go, even the amplifier market is tragic, some how schiit is still getting away with pumping out absolute dog shit and lying constantly about everything. We are back to the valhalla again lying about being used for low impedance headphones, like they tried to do with the 2 before they got btfo'd. I even have a magni 3 next to me that has such bad channel imbalance that one driver sounds dead sometimes and the volume knob gets stuck on the amps casing, at least it was free i guess

What happened to the headphone movement? Why are the DT 770s so widely hated yet chinkslop and Bose are being praised? What fucking year is this, 2003? What’s next, people are gonna start shilling for Beats again?

>>105903169
People realized how stupid being an audiopedophile is and how convenient and comfortable it is to use normal shit

>>105899321
The app is godawful dogshit yet is required to use the headphones. You cannot switch devices without the app and half the time you can’t in the app as well. The firmware is by far the worst. Momentum 4 are basically guaranteed e-waste since they can’t function without the app and the onboard functionality is extremely limited. You have two buttons and neither of them do anything. You have to turn them off to pair and they don’t ever actually turn off. Touch gestures are garbage. The entire experience reeks of chinkshit and steep budget cuts.

All of this for $450 USD, their new price as of this month. Yes, they went UP in price.

>>105903169
>Why are the DT 770s so widely hated yet chinkslop and Bose are being praised?
it's just a consumer board and the most purchased shit is always normie slop, regardless of what 'hobby' it's about. The dt 770 being shit doesn't mean people should buy chink trash or normal fag slop. People just arrive at the conclusion of wanting to buy something and don't want to be told it's trash thats why every single review channel that's left is some trash like z reviews where he says literally headphone ever made is amazing and sounds like the voice of god.

>>105903188
>”people”

>>105903064
> It's quite depressing seeing how many trash 1k+ headphones still exist
True. The fact chinkfiman outsells most hi-fi headphone companies nowadays tells you everything to know about the absolute state of headphones. Hell, Abyss makes absolute dogshit and people still pay 3k+ for that. And I don't even buy anything from Schiit anymore because their QC is so fucking awful that actual chinkshit lasts longer without potentiometer issues.
>Kind of feels like there is no where else to go
Try something Stax at a store if you have the option. I thought so too but the Staxfags were right. My entry level Lambdas are better than every other can I've ever owned. The pads were dogshit though, had to replace those.
>>105903169
>What happened to the headphone movement? Why are the DT 770s so widely hated
DT 770s have an awful treble spike and there's some resonances as well. Still a tier above wireless shit.
> yet chinkslop and Bose are being praised?
Normalfags like >>105903211 said. The average normalnigger doesn't give a shit about good audio as long as it's wireless.
>>105903188
>normalfags
>people

>>105903239
>Hell, Abyss makes absolute dogshit and people still pay 3k+ for that
When i seen the innerfidility video on the diana i was pretty dumbfounded how that headphone existed, it just looked so insane uncomfortable and the msrp was something fucking insane
>Try something Stax at a store if you have the option
Yeah stax will be my next buy for sure, even if it's just to see what they are like. I just need to find a good priced used amplifier for one first. I like modding headphones anyways so i'll probably start with the l300

>>105897182
>the idea of easily repairable durable headphones makes the jew seethe
kys

>>105903384
you arent going to repair the failing voice coils, and they are not durable or well made. They feel like chinese trash whenever you put them on your head and creek like plastic is hitting metal. I wish we lived in a world were they even remotely tried to make them better instead of continueing to pump out turbo trash with non replaceable cables, which for normies and most people means they are dead after. If you wanted to use that arguement you should of brought up an actual good headphone that's built well like the hd 600 line, goy

>>105893215 (OP)
has anybody found a FR graph for the new DT 770 pro x NON-limited edition? been looking for the past two months since they released but still can't find it, they are supposedly tuned more like the dt 700 pro x or 770 80 ohm compared to the retarded limited edition version which was even more treble rapey than the 250 ohm version (the acoustic disc was swapped from the regular dt 770 one to the mmx 300 pro one).

>>105903410
>you arent going to repair the failing voice coils
...the drivers are replaceable yes, plus most people never had this problem.
>turbo trash with non replaceable cables
the pro x versions with replaceable cables exist yes.

>>105903334
I have the L300 too. If you ever get one replace the ear pads with something thicker since the stock ones are awful. Also might want to try the blue tack mod for extra bass. Topping made an energizer recently, EHA5 but I've seen conflicting reviews. I have an SRM-252S but you might want to get something more powerful depending on how loud you want those to go. Their older energizers can be bought for cheap, from Japan especially since there is a big used market for those there.
>When i seen the innerfidility video on the diana i was pretty dumbfounded how that headphone existed
Awful headphone and costs like 4k. You could genuinely get some of the best cans there are for that and Abyss still has customers for some reason.

>>105903410
>you should of brought up an actual good headphone that's built well like the hd 600 line
you don't even understand the concept that there's a difference between "closed back" and "open back" headphones
suggesting to buy an open back as an alternative to a closed back is fucking retarded and something that automatically dismisses any of your opinions

>>105903438
>...the drivers are replaceable yes, plus most people never had this problem.
you are going to have driver imbalance then because they aren't matched and by the time you spent the money to replace 1 or both the pads and materials are probably worn and it's cheaper to buy a new one.
>the pro x versions with replaceable cables exist yes.
it's more money and i don't support companies that refuse to even remotely try and improve things, they still force you to buy repair kits even if you only need 1 single part from it. I don't see the point in dealing with all this non sense for something that already sounds horrible, i wish this wasn't the case, i'm just speaking how the world is, and not what i want it to be. They are sold to the chinks already so if it's this bad already imagine when that fully goes through. I own a pair of dt 770 pro 80 ohms myself, they are just garbage and i havnt sold them yet, but i bought them on a pseudo price error to flip them anyways and to finally be able to talk about them whenever they inevitably get brought up, which is literally every second response at this point.

>>105903222
>>105903239
It's hilarious that you think you virgin shut in autistic nerds are more human than proper functioning people

>>105903474
That is not why i brought up the 600, i'm obviously aware of what an open back is, anon cmon. I mentioned the 600 because it's also cheap and well built you are just trying to do anything to make my argument as to why the dt 770 is trash is invalid. I have hd 800/aeon open closed, dt 770 and a few others next to me obviously i'm aware there is a fucking difference on such a simple matter. if you wanted to have a discussion on what is an alternative to the dt 770 that's something else than what I was replying to, which is just an insult by another dt 770 incel who can't grasp the concept that it's not perfect.

>>105903209
>The app is godawful dogshit yet is required to use the headphones. You cannot switch devices without the app and half the time you can’t in the app as well. The firmware is by far the worst
Okay this might convince me not to get them. Thanks man, none of the reviews I've read mentioned the associated firm/software.

>>105903480
>you are going to have driver imbalance then because they aren't matched
I have no idea how it works on the older ones (it seems some only have both drivers available so those are definitely matched, but the 770 32/80/250 has them sold individually), but the pro x definitely has all drivers within very thin tollerances and there's no such problem, they don't come matched.
>by the time you spent the money to replace 1 or both the pads and materials are probably worn and it's cheaper to buy a new one.
a 700/770 pro x driver is 40€ and completely solderless to replace, a brand new headphone is 200€, you aren't very good at math, especially considering that we are discussing something that won't ever happen to 99.9% of people
>it's more money and i don't support companies that refuse to even remotely try and improve things
they improved things in all sorts of ways with the pro x (new headband, replaceable cable, solderless better quality completely redesigned drivers, new aucustic discs, all sorts of other small stuff) but you dismiss it because "it's 50€ more expensive than the older model that has half the features and that has been sold since the 90's" do you not see how fucking stupid that sounds? meanwhile you are suggesting to buy sennheisers that are WAAAY more overpriced, kekw.
>They are sold to the chinks already
...just like shitheiser? so? you just suggested people go buy an hd 600
>I own a pair of dt 770 pro 80 ohms myself, they are just garbage and i havnt sold them yet, but i bought them on a pseudo price error to flip them anyways and to finally be able to talk about them whenever they inevitably get brought up, which is literally every second response at this point.
yeah you actually also have to use the dammn things to be able to say shit about them, you haven't even had the voice coil fail on you retard

>>105903614
I'm always amazed as to how much the dt 770/6xx people get insulted if you ever bring up problems with either headphone, or how they are what they are, which is just a budget option that gets destroyed by anything that's not even twice the cost, but i'll do my best to not get annoyed by your retardation for a minute.
>buy sennheisers
this is what it's always been anon, which is a cost/performance option, no one in good faith thinks the 600/650/6xx is a perfect headphone and it never was, even on launch. The 6xx use to be like $139 usd before drop massively increased the pricing to the peak of $279 before it went back to $200,which is approaching not worth bothering territory again. But regardless i'll take a 600/650/6xx over anything beyer ever made and i'm not a 6xx fan. I have used the dt 770 enough to judge it and it's just what it is, a budget low quality closed back in a price range that allows it to do quite well on sales. If someone has more budget or is willing to buy used it's already mogged in every single way and i don't care about it past that
>>They are sold to the chinks already
...just like shitheiser? so? you just suggested people go buy an hd 600
sennheiser got bought by a swedish hearing aid company, and have opened plants in romania which is not something i'm advocating for but current stock would all still be Ireland anyways, beyer did the same with plants in romania so my prior points still stand .

> 700/770 pro x driver is 40€ and completely solderless to replace, a brand new headphone is 200€, you aren't very good at math,
you just ignored my point again because you are biased and don't want to read anything i say.
>yeah you actually also have to use the dammn things to be able to say shit about them, you haven't even had the voice coil fail on you retard
this is a stupid argument and you don't even believe it. Unless you are actually sub 100 iq

>>105903508
>it's also cheap
costs literally 2x as much, but 50€ more for the pro x 770 is unacceptable and they should give you all the improvements of that model for free, k.

>>105903681
>saying they have some flaws is the same thing as "they are complete fucking garbage and the worst headphones to buy at that price point"
nice moving of goalposts there retard
I never said the 770s are perfect
>gets destroyed by anything that's not even twice the cost
... such as? are you still talking about those fucking sennheisers? give me a closed back alternative or shut the fuck up, your entire argument is flawed because you keep comparing apples to oranges

>>105903682
>>105903728
you people get way to upset about some garbage headphone that has no actual good thing to mention about it other than it's cheap and a closed back but anyways
>.. such as? are you still talking about those fucking sennheisers?
one day you people will learn to read everything that's in text and not cherry pick what makes you angry. Anyways the closed back tier that dt 770 occupies is fucking garbage, everything is either Chinese slop, ear rape like the dt 770 or fucking pointless. I'm not poor so i don't have to live in a world where the most i can spend is $150 dollars and then go on every single /hpg/ thread and defend my yearly salary purchase. used aeons are barely more than the dt 770 is and destroy them at literally everything in every single sense of every measurable metric before build cost, but you will get mad i even mention used. a990z,m40x, are the most notable options, the a990z has the same problem with a non replaceable cable but they are significantly better than the dt 770. More than likely if you are this poor you are just stuck with anything that's on sale.
>>saying they have some flaws is the same thing as "they are complete fucking garbage and the worst headphones to buy at that price point"
you never read what i posted after that did you? just searched for dt 770 and found the first arguement against them

I kind of want to try out the HD 560S, but my favourite headphones ever have been the Fidelio X2HR and DT 1770 Pros. Will I even like them?

Thanks for reading my blog

>>105903780
>i'm an audiophool and if you spend less than half a grand on headphones you're poor and getting slop
you should've clarified this earlier, won't bite the bait anymore at this point.

>>105903902
These have far less bass than either of those so you might find them too anemic. You can just EQ more bass if you want but stock those lack impact. Great imaging, though.
>>105903994
He's right. You won't get either good THD performance or perfect tuning at that price point. This isn't audiophoolery, check the measurements of those Beyers and compare with something from DCA.

>>105903994
please learn how to read and not make retarded arguements and it won't just come down to pointless attacks on eachother. I tried to argue in good faith with you but you have no interest in anything that goes against your views. I will state this very plainly so you don't have to guess my views
It should not be the case where to avoid buying chinese slop you have to pay 1k+ on headphones, there is no reason we have to have massively profitable companies like beyer and sennheiser moving to gypsy town to take away german jobs to lower skilled workers so the consumer gets stiffed for no reason, they won't even lower cost of items, if anything increase it.
I don't want more companies akging themselves with pieces of shit designs that break even under austrian qc control and then go to china where they become ununusable.
I don't want amplifier companies literally scamming people with total dog shit like schiit does, i wish we lived in a world where things were more affordable especially for europoors and not dictated if you in america/canada for drop/ebay deals, but here we are anon.
Unfortunately if you are buying closed backs the only ones that don't suffer from total dog shit qa problems/lazy design is the aeon. And even that's probably accidental because dan couldnt break into the high end planar market with the ether as well as audeze had, so he was forced to make something closer to budget and then the drop collab made it actually affordable for most people.
tldr; it's a pathetic world were in 2025 we have basically one company even trying to put out non dog shit in the sub $1k market, and an entire amplifier industry run by the chinks instead of the japs that made shit that will outlive us all from the 60-90s. You take what you can get and avoid whats cancerous, thats all you can do.

DT 770 are probably the most canceled and hated headphones in the entire movement. Nowadays they’re called overpriced and low quality. Weird when $400 e-waste Bose are now considered a “good” recommendation.

>>105904081
>>105903211
not answering this again

>>105904056
>And even that's probably accidental because dan couldnt break into the high end planar market with the ether as well as audeze had, so he was forced to make something closer to budget and then the drop collab made it actually affordable for most people.
Unironically might be the case considering Aeon 2 is straight up worse and costs more.
>>105904081
Nigger who considers Bose a good recommendation other than normalfags who praise shit like the Sony XM5 or, God forbid, Beats.

Currently using the SkullCandy Crusher Evo's (dont know shit about audio I just like bass) which other pair of headphones would be enough of an upgrade they need to have enough bass too (has to be under $400)

>>105904169
>I just like bass
Meze 99 Noir

>>105904354
This might be one of the most fitting recommendations I've ever seen here. What a graph

>>105893215 (OP)
Sony XM6 or save some money and get the Bose QuietComfort SC (almost a third of the price of the XM6'es)?
Currently have some very old BeyerDynamic DT 770's that are falling apart, and want to get my first set of ANC headphones, so don't really know much.

>>105905285
Don't get either of these. XM6 are dogshit shilled by youtube "reviewers" and the Bose aren't better. I guess if you must get either of these then get the Bose, at least you'll save some money. If you just want something wireless then get Edifier Stax S3/S5. Not sure why the Stax in the name since those are planar but they actually have decent drivers, based on an Audeze design. If you MUST have anc then get Px7 S3 or something. Not really amazing by any standards but still better than XM6 or anything Bose.

>>105905485
1000XM6 objectively have the best noise cancelling

>>105905833
But also the shittiest drivers and tuning. Not even EQ can save this shit. Headphones are first and foremost supposed to produce good sound. If all you care about is ANC then sure, but at that point you might as well get earplugs if sound is of no concern. Or get Airpods Max which also have very good ANC but also actually sound good after you EQ them at least. Amir measured those and are suprisingly decent for wireless stuff.

What's the threads opinion on AMT drivers, the itch to consoom is building again and I was eying Heddphones

>>105905917
They seem pretty shit. I've never seen a single headphone that used that technology or similar stuff like ribbon drivers and was actually good. Heddphones themselves aren't that good either but I remember them having really good soundstaging and imaging so I guess that's something. Though to be fair I don't remember the distortion being as bad as measurements show.

>>105893215 (OP)
Snoyphones seem good until you need to replace the earpads and you realize they don't sell the originals for totally not planned obsolescence reasons.
ALL third party ones suck. Just say goodbye to your noise cancellation feature, it won't work anymore. And in return, they'll leak your audio like crazy.

>>105905992
well that's a grand saved.

>>105898216
>on ears for commuting
fucking sperg

>>105906033
^this

>>105906664
those are both over ear

>>105897527
>Flavor of the week tranime sells themselves out for a cashgrab promotion

>>105903472
>Topping made an energizer recently, EHA5
thanks for this suggestion, i was looking for something like this if i couldnt get a good deal on a used stax amp. What a strange design though, at first I thought it was a tube amplifier but it's just orange leds. Kind of kino though like a campfire, I read an article on it but i'll take some time to read further

>>105906839
Yeah, I thought it was a tube amp too. Looks pretty cool with how it lights up. Reviews on ASR are good but apparently there is unit variation. Most perform as they should with minimal distortion but some units are fucked. Also there seem to be some issues with the passive passthrough. Crazy amount of power, though. Pretty sure it's more powerful than most if not all of Stax's energizers so you could run whatever estat you wanted off of it. I know Amir really likes Topping since their stuff measures really well but I'm somewhat skeptical of their reliability long term.

>>105898375
>If you want comfy and don't want to spend much
My dad gave me a budget of 18k dollars to buy things I want, suggest the most expensive comfy headphone now.

>>105907856
NTA but Stax SR-X9000, DCA Expanse or Meze Empyrean

>>105907856
>My dad gave me a budget of 18k dollars to buy things I want,
yeah sorry anon that's even well out of my autism range i'd be guessing if I said anything besides dan clark or hd 800. Theres quite a few others that reviewed incredibly well but were so filled with qa or design flaws I can't even mention them.
Comfort over all though you really can't go wrong with any from DCA it's all giga thick pads and the newer headbands look more promising than the aeon's that wore on me, the hd 800 uses Alcantara for padding so it's probably something you've felt before and it's quite nice. To add to what the anon said aswell you can look into the stax sr 009/007 used and save a ton of money on either. Do you have a budget in mind for a pair of headphones?

reasons not to buy FIIO FT1?

>>105909818
drivers falling off and chinese quality control, if you have the money get a pair of aeons and never worry about anything like that happening again. Used is also an option for sometimes less than $300 usd. None of this may happen to you but it's worth noting the sheer cancer of chinese made headphones, all of them have massive qc problems, susvara included ($6k) but maybe that's all that's in that tier if you don't want to spend much more

>>105896850
I own Q20i, pretty good for the price

over the ears that support fedoras (actually not joking, I wear a fedora)

opinions on ATH-M50?

Metal (like in da '70s)/rugged built headphones with decent sound?

>>105913415
Pretty good, honestly. And the M50 is better than M50X sound wise since the bass is less boosted.
>>105914599
Anything Audeze that's not wood so LCD2C, X and GX. Most of the build is magnesium. GX is especially durable since it doesn't have the loosening screws 2C and X have. Good luck trying to break that. Heavy as fuck also.

Are there any decent sounding headphones that also have the durability for the physical wear and dust of construction sites or similar work environments? Ideally noise-cancelling.

>>105916187
same question but less extreme. something that i can carry around and use with my laptop
used to have HD380 Pro but the cable at the jack got shorted and fried the left speaker

>>105914599
>>105915068
+1 for GX, mine has been excellent

>>105893215 (OP)
I'm looking for wireless buds with good sound quality
preferably in canal type
dont care about noise cancelation but I'd like them to not be too bulky
what are my options?

>>105917365
airpods pro

>>105917398
eat my ass
I refuse to buy any apple product on principle

>>105917490
>eat my ass
faggot
>I refuse to buy any apple product on principle
loser

>>105917365
Samsung galaxy buds plus have good sound quality, but they're a bit old. The buds2 pro are also good.

>>105917365
bro, this is a headphones general. nobody here knows anything about wireless earbuds

>>105918357
>The buds2 pro are also good.
i had those for a long time. they are far worse than airpods pro 2 in every single way.

Any thoughts on the sennheiser brand? Been a sony guy this past decade but my head has gotten bigger (outgrown the last ones I had since hs) I hear good stuff about them and want to know if its worth it.

>>105904056
You sound very well versed on this. Got any recommendations for >>105918521 ?

>>105899217
>Iems are churned out like trash because it literally does not matter, they have no material costs or real r&d because the only that that matters to the iem consumer is an anime girl on the packaging and how they are painted. There is no need to worry about what design you need for some 750g headphone, it's just how well can you put out the exact same earbud for the prime market of sub $100
yep, it's pretty funny how /iemg/'s OP recommendations change every few weeks/months despite them all just being slight variations in fit/tuning for the same damn thing. meanwhile, people will land on a specific pair of headphones and know exactly what the strengths and weaknesses are, because people have been using them for years

>>105918521
>Any thoughts on the sennheiser brand
One of the best really, more of a tell about the audio industry in general that stuff from 98/2003 is still king of the sub $500 tier. Anyways the 600 line (600/650/6xx) still is quite good for what it is, and that's a durable well built headphone that will do well for pretty much everyone as long as you aren't a complete bass head and aren't use to high end gear already. The 6xx is drop's collab with sennheiser to sell the 650 at a discount without muddying the perception of a cash cow.
There are better headphones than the 600 line, such as the dan clark aeon which pretty much beats it at everything but it's more expensive, used market has been drying up lately but they are probably still the best used/budget all around headphone there is and holds it's weight up until the $1k tier.
If you are a euro and can't get the 6xx it's more of an open discussion about what's good for price performance, but again it's probably still sennheisers new products, HD 490,505,560s,599,600,650. The 599/560's both tend to regularly go on sale, the 560 being essentially a permanent sale, being clampier than the 599 which is essentially the absolute king of low cost, comfort without obvious build or qa problems ,despite being made in china.
Sennheisers consumer shit isn't something i'd ever look into (wireless,bt,anc,earbuds etc), but i love my hd 800s, 6xx so they have a high recommendation from me.

>>105919086
Thanks man.
>Anyways the 600 line (600/650/6xx) still is quite good for what it is, and that's a durable well built headphone that will do well for pretty much everyone as long as you aren't a complete bass head and aren't use to high end gear already.
Wont be a problem. I've been using wired apple earbuds this last year but they build up so much earwax in my ear its fucking crazy.

I bought a JBL Tour One M2 the other day, but the audio sounds kinda muffled, even after turning the bass down a bit in the equalizer, so vocals and dialog sound off.
Would the Sony WH-1000XM5 or the Bose Quiet Comfort 45 be any better in this regard? I hear all wireless headphones nowadays are kinda bassy.

>>105917365
>>105917490
>I refuse to buy any apple product on principle
Based. I hate them too. Just get Moondrop Space Travel. 20 bucks and have near perfect harman tuning. Build quality is pretty shit but sound is good. No need to spend more on something that will become e waste in a few years anyway. That or if you don't care about ANC just get a good pair of IEMs like Zero Red or Hexa and connect them to a wireless adapter. That way you'll get wireless IEMs with replacable batteries and actual good tuning.
Alternatively, get galaxy buds 2. Don't get 3, those are much worse.
>>105919505
>Would the Sony WH-1000XM5 or the Bose Quiet Comfort 45 be any better in this regard
No. All consumer tuned shit so almost anything wireless has a 10 db bass boost. Reduce the bass by as much as you are able and maybe you'll get something listenable, though I doubt it. Try Edifier S3/S5 or Focal Bathys if you want wireless headphones with decent drivers and tuning.
>>105918521
Their wired stuff(except for IEMs) is durable and sounds good, mostly. Some of their models(HD660, HD820) are vastly overpriced but HD560 and HD600/650/6XX along with HD800 are all good headphones. No point in getting 650 when 6XX is the same shit but much cheaper and 600 is better than both of those.

I need new HD650 pads so bad

>>105919809
>80 eurodollarinos for senn ie4 chinktrash
>cheapest iem they have

What the fugg DDD:

>>105919809
>Alternatively, get galaxy buds 2
opinion discarded
fucking faggot

Lads how do we feel about the DT 770 Pro X vs DT 770 Pro? Any reason not to go for the X version?

>>105917365
Find some old "broken" XM3/4s and swap the battery out. Cost me 35 bucks, including the batteries, and will shit on all cheap options.

Pleb tier question: What wireless headphones without noise cancelling would you recommend?

Or headphones with noise cancelling you can turn off. I don't care about noise cancelling and I don't like how it changes the sound of stuff.

Preferably under 300 eurobucks would be nice.

>>105923314
Buds 2 Pro are actually decent when you drop the bass with EQ, niggerfaggot. Unlike most normalfag wireless sloppa the drivers in those are not dogshit. Still worse than Space Travel but at least the shell is more durable.
>>105923336
>Any reason not to go for the X version?
No, it's better. Tuning wise and build quality wise.
>>105924619
Edifier S3 or S5 if you can find it on sale. Genuinely the only wireless headphone in that price bracket that has actual good tuning and drivers and has actual leather pads and headband instead of pleather shit that peels off after a year. Still wireless chinkshit so I wouldn't expect great longevity out of the drivers. Also Audeze Maxwell but those are heavy as fuck.

>>105925831
>it's better tuning wise
how do you know that when nobody has measured it yet?
only the older limited edition was measured and that one was complete dogshit compared to the original (even more treble rape) so you aren't talking about that one which is now discontinued, right?
>build quality wise
explain

>>105926542
>how do you know that when nobody has measured it yet?
No measurements but according to beyer there is less treble rape than the original X. And if the tuning is similar to the limited one for the rest of the FR then there's also no deep notch that was in the regular 770 Pro meaning it's easier to EQ. And I wouldn't touch an unequalized Beyer anyway.
>>build quality wise
>explain
Better headband and a removable cable so you can have a cable that's not dogshit.

For bluetooth headphones just get the Bose QC. They have actual good build quality and they are extremely comfortable. I dont think there's anything out there in the market right now that's better than it in terms of price/performance.

>>105926893
>good build quality

>>105926893
>here are your headphones bro

>>105926893
They all have shitty mics though.

>>105926854
>No measurements but according to beyer there is less treble rape than the original X
less treble rape doesn't necessarily mean it's on par with the 80 ohm dt 770 pro tho, there's no data to conclude that, we have no idea by which amount the rape was reduced
plus bass was reduced as well, the main reason most headphones go for a v-shape sound signature is that the mids are even more rapey when there's too much of it
>Better headband
...it's more comfortable sure but how is it better build quality?
>removable cable so you can have a cable that's not dogshit.
the non detachable cable on the dt 770 has been known to be very reliable and rarely broken, again, how does detachable mean better build quality? I don't think you understand what "build quality" means.
I thought you had proof they improved the durability of the sliders or something like that but nope

>>105926977
this would've been a 10$ fix on a pair of beyerdynamics
here, you have to throw the whole headphones away

>this would've been a 10$ fix on a pair of beyerdynamics
here, you have to throw the whole headphones away
it also wouldn't of happened on an actual good pair of headphones at all

>>105927649
The fact bass was reduced is a good thing if anything since the original X was bass boosted quite a bit in comparison to the original 770.
>...it's more comfortable sure but how is it better build quality?
It's replaceable meaning when it wears out you can just replace it without shit like putting something on top of the original one. That and the material doesn't flake and fall apart as easily.
>how does detachable mean better build quality?
Harder to fuck up the cable if it's designed to be detachable from the socket instead of being one part. Less failure points overall. And instead of soldering you can just get a new cable if you fuck it up. Everything else is the same sadly, sliders included.

is the l300 out of production now?
>the last batch

>>105927723
>It's replaceable meaning when it wears out you can just replace it without shit like putting something on top of the original one.
...i'm very fucking confused, the headband on the dt 770 pro is also replaceable, always has been, and you can even install the 770 pro x headband on the original 770 pro
are you on drugs or something
>and the material doesn't flake and fall apart as easily.
how do you know that when the newer headband has only been around for like 2 years? people usually have to replace the headband every 5+ years on the original dt 770 pro

>>105927856
>the headband on the dt 770 pro is also replaceable
You're right, I was thinking of another model. Sorry, I'm tired.
>how do you know that when the newer headband has only been around for like 2 years? people usually have to replace the headband every 5+ years on the original dt 770 pro
My dt 990 headband started disintegratimg after 2 years though to be fair I sweat a lot. The pro x headband material felt more durable since it wasn't as soft when I tried them at a store. That was the limited one but the new one has the same headband

>>105927827
They were out of stock shortly after I bought them. I asked the retailer and apparently they're just waiting for Stax Japan to send them a new shipment since that's only once in a few months. But
>the last batch
Sounds a little concerning

>>105894521
XM4's are the most overhyped trash I've ever used. it's like a sea of lows for the bassfags.

>>105901379
funny.
enjoy your overpriced distortion.

>>105928331
>poorfag cope
enjoy your hearing loss so you could save a few hundred dollars 3rd worlder

I use Sennheiser HD215s that I got 17 years ago dirt cheap. I don't even think they sound good anymore.

>>105898375
FT1 is not planar, your thinking of the FT1 Pro

>>105928480
to be fair the dt 990 pro will probably get you much more hearing loss than chifi iems, literal treble cannon

So, apparently the JBL Tour One M3 is better than the Sony XM6 after being equalized, even though it's cheaper.
Why is no one talking about the M3?

Buy Stax.

>>105929584
>so apparently jbl ewate is better than the sony ewaste, why is no one talking about the jbl ewaste

>>105929851
This

>>105929859
What about Sennheiser ewaste?
I see people recommending them all the time for their sound quality, but they seem to have tons of issues.

>>105930082
>but they seem to have tons of issues.
yup, that's wireless ewaste slop for you.

>>105928331
there is nothing to distort in your shitty chink buzzers.

>>105931295
my cheapest iems have better fr than the most expensive headphones in the world.

>>105931519
>fr
lmao

>>105931534
I forgot this thread was filled with dented heads

>>105928480
two more weeks, I'm sure hearing loss will come

>all these buttblasted eardildildo chinkfi poorfags

>>105893215 (OP)
any good bluetooth microphones?

>>105923336
b-boy feet?!

What should I expect?

>>105893375
Homosexual

>>105932290
no..

>>105934341
basado

>>105933956
the pleather earpads to flake in 1 year and having to throw them away because no replacements are available

>>105932290
>>105934740
That's an adult man.

i just got a beginner level stuff like speakers and card, what headphones are good?
are ath m50x bad?

I'm about to go buy new headphones after the third set in the past 24 months became mono for no reason. What's some reasonably cheap (under 100) option with a decent (not having to shout or literally put it in my mouth like a pacifier if I want to be heard) mic?

>>105936699
hot

>>105936766
>what headphones are good
Stax and DCA
>are ath m50x bad?
No, they're decent
>>105936767
Philips SHP9500 + Vmoda Boom Pro

>>105936767
>for no reason

Stop manhandling your shit, Mongo.

airpods pro 2 are the best ootb tuned wireless IEMs on the market. frankly, they're a masterpiece. i have an EQd hd600 with expensive amp and i don't mind listening to them
>>105936766
>are ath m50x bad?
V-shaped normieslop treblecannons. also uncomfortable and sweaty.

>>105940092
Space travel have better target adherence and are twenty bucks kek.
>spending over 150 bucks for e waste
Do normalniggers really? At that point just get good wired IEMs and a wireless adapter. Airpods don't even support LDAC or LDHC.
>inb4 applefag cope that it's a good thing, actually.

>>105940580
LOLOLOLOL

Didn't even know these were released, anyone here have them? How do they compare to xm5,xm4? Does Sony even advertise their headphone lineup?

>>105940690
> How do they compare to xm5,xm4?
they're just as shit
>Does Sony even advertise their headphone lineup?
no point, you retards will consooome this ewaste annually no matter what

>>105940670
Holy mackerel, I'm not in IEMs, but I'm aware Moondrop is a popular name when it comes to them, didn't even know they made wireless earbuds, how do they compare to ohter mainstream earbuds like airpods, sony, siegeheisser?

>>105940799
they're pretty good.
check scarbir for reviews

just got these
how big of a deal is ldac?
also is there any way to reduce that "on" white noise when anc is on and nothing is playing? it's quiet but it's there

>>105940799
they're alright but I like qcy buds more

>>105940580
dilate sperg loser
>>105940859
airpods pro 2 don't have this problem

>>105940896
my way melobuds are better. and my space travels too.

>>105940799
Much better tuning since they don't tune their wireless stuff for mass market appeal. ANC is pretty shit. Their cheapest wireless earbuds are better than their more expensive ones so that's a pretty retarded business strategy.
>>105940859
>how big of a deal is ldac?
Best wireless codec along with LDHC and the closest you'll get to wired sound quality.
>also is there any way to reduce that "on" white noise when anc is on and nothing is playing
Try changing the codec. Other than that, not really.
>>105940964
TRVKE

>>105897074
Do not get this unless you want your ears bleeding from all the insane treble and no bass

>>105941005
well I haven't noticed any difference vs anc and communications mode is still complete DOGSHIT...

>>105941121
vs aac*
talking about ldac

>>105941162
You won't notice the difference on a source that's already lossy like Spotify. Try some FLAC files. It's not a colossal difference but if you A B it on the same track vs aac you'll most likely notice.

>>105898216
>xm4
I've used this and xm3 forever, only at home and in airplanes. They're good, and I love them but just know
>no airflow so ears can get warm
>earpads will start to smell despite cleaning so you'll need replacements from aliexpress
>moisture will collect underneath the earpads, causing a crackling noise. This can be fixed with dessicant packets.
>must keep app installed or you get speak to chat interruptions
>touch controls don't work when slighty wet
>touch controls can be activated by accident causing a movie to start all over again
>they don't fit my head well so they fall off when walking, might not be issue for you
Besides that I love them. Sturdy, great battery life, great ANC, great passive NC, great bass.

>>105941202
I encode my own m4a Files from lossless so there's likely not going to be a difference ..
wish there wasnt any background noise, even though it's very low im autistic about it.
maybe not as autistic as soldering couple resistors up to the drivers.... yet

>>105893480
I use HD580 Precision dating back to the year 1993 inherited from my father
Basically new pads every 5 years (I use heat fan to fix the earpad shape every year inbetween until it totally breaks down) + EQ solves headphones

>>105941425
Heat fan?
How does that work

>>105941529
Over time 600series earpads get compressed longtitudinally which makes them sound dark and veiled
You just need to remove the earpads and carefully heat up with the heat fan the soft part while stretching them with your hand in the longtitudinal direction restoring their original shape (preferably in a gardening glove to avoid burns)
Afterwards you can enjoy the new pad sound without buying anything
this can be done 3-4 times before they disintegrate beyond salvation and actually need a proper replacement

are Beats the worse headphones price-to-quality-wise?

>>105942138
worst*

>>105893215 (OP)
For someone rocking the Fidelio X2HRs do you recommend an upgrade?

Should I stick with these or should I get a new set at some point
Do headphones lose audio quality overtime or do they stay the same?
Any recommended mic 3.5mm attachments preferably something that uses a rubberliner for the 3.5 instead of nylon so it doesn't twist up over time

>>105941202
>he thinks ldac is lossless
clueless

Got myself a pair of XM4 the other day. First time have touch controls on a headset. Kinda nice

I got these (Beats Studio Pro) because they were 45% off on Prime Day recently.

Honestly, not bad for that price, especially with the iPhone integrations and ANC and etc...battery life is good too.

Fold up nice, come with a good case and wires, not bad.

Do they make planar ANC headphones yet?

>>105893215 (OP)
>Airpods Pro 2
>Sony XM6
>Astro A50 gen 5

Airpods Max is sweat inducing headclamp.

I also have Arya Stealth that i use for classical stuff, they are way to treble bright for anything else, I even tried to EQ them but my ears get way too fatigued even at low volume levels.
My guess is that it's because there are no vents around the membrane in these models, compared to the old legendary OP Godlike Allarounder He-500.

>>105898515
Yes and no wonder they started making absolutely trash tier headphones when the Chinese owned them. Meanwhile in the 80's they made the best headphones in the world and they still are the best in the world.

>>105941213
>earpads will start to smell despite cleaning so you'll need replacements from aliexpress
Based i haven't thought about replacing them thanks anon

Are there any decent ANC headphones in the £150-£200 range? Reading this thread has put me off the usual options.

>>105903472
If you ever have the chance give them a proper amp instead of an SRM energizer. Find an old Stax SRD-7mk2 and plug in an old speaker amplifier and you'll be rewarded with better sound thank any of those small SRM energizers can give you.

>>105944973
Are those good? I’m thinking of upgrading from xm3

>>105918521
Sennheiser is 99% shit. They did like 5 actually good headphones and they're all over 3 decades old. Don't fall for the HD600/HD650/HD660 meme. It's a terrible headphone that became hugely popular due to heavy marketing and reddit soys.

>>105919505
>buys shitty wireless headphones
>"they sound muffled!"
what a surprise

>>105927827
hopefully discontinued. It's an awful headphone. Truly bottom of the barrel.

>>105946053
I'll be in Japan next year so I'll stop by e earphone. Maybe I'll get a good deal on one of those. Via ebay I'll just get fucked with taxes.
>>105944973
>I also have Arya Stealth that i use for classical stuff, they are way to treble bright for anything else
I had those too. Sold them. A bunch of resonances which create that sharpness. No way to EQ it down, I tried. All of their models with the same shape have the same problem. HE-500 and the like have (mostly) non resonating drivers and don't sound nearly as bright. The godawful treble spike beyond 10k the Arya has doesn't help, either.
>>105946038
No

Should I buy HD 600s

>>105946647
>I'll be in Japan next year so I'll stop by e earphone. Maybe I'll get a good deal on one of those. Via ebay I'll just get fucked with taxes.

You can't get it from any physical store. The srd7mk2 is from the 1970's. Stax doesn't make passive energizers anymore, only "driver units" that have an amp inside, aka worse than passive energizer + proper speaker amp plugged to it. Try 2nd hand sites.

>>105946971
E earphone has a used section so I was hoping to find one there. There's usually a bunch of old Stax earspeakers there but I'm not sure if they deal in used energizers as well. Though I'll take a look at my local sites and some jap ones. Would probably be cheaper than ebay.

>>105946966
If you want a 6X0 series headphone just get 6XX since it's similar and 100 bucks cheaper. For 300 bucks you can get an Aune AR5000 which is much better if you use EQ to fix the treble.

>>105947130
Good luck then. If you find some old Staxes get a pair too. 80's if you can, such as the Pro. The 404 is good too. If you've only heard something like L300 through an SRM 252 or similar, you haven't really heard Stax yet. And no blutack mods needed on those old ones.

just got jbl live 770nc
what am I in for?