Thread 105901987

i'll start

thank god Apple invented tiling windows

not even close

>>105901987 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fltwBKsMY0

I remember when you click the green button it doesn't fill the window you have to manually resize it after 20 years they start to make progress

Tiling window managers exist on Linux which can do this automatically. i3 is one of the most common examples.
Bait thread.

>>105901987 (OP)
It's pretty far down on my todo list but I'm adding this feature to a window manager from 1989.

>>105901987 (OP)
wait till you find out about tiling window managers

and just about every WM and DE nowadays provides hotkeys to tile windows whichever way you like

>>105901987 (OP)
are you talking about tiling?

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>>105901987 (OP)
>functionality linux will never have
>tiling windows
hmm, yes anon, a functionality that is notoriously missing from linux

xfce can't set a solid color as a wallpaper

>>105904135
Red button doesn't close the application...except when it does
Yellow doesn't minimize to the icon, instead it becomes a new entity in the dock
Green doesn't make it maximised, it makes it full screen and hides the dock and title bar
Double clicking fits the window to its contents size, except with certain apps like firefox where it instead maximizes the window
Also the window borders are like 1 pixel wide so good luck hitting them when you want to drag to make them bigger.

Mac OS is a fucking joke from an usability standpoint

>>105904606
Is that mwm?

>>105906050
Yes

>>105906034
cringe

>>105907124
Yeah, macOS is cringe.

based thread, linux troons can't do this without installing scripts from github written by literally whos and fixing them for few days till they work. unlike our glorious macos where everything is polished for user comfort, with perfect integration of hardware and software

>>105901987 (OP)
Window + arrow key

Mac toddlers getting filtered by keyboard shortcuts

>>105904606
sepia looks so nice

>>105901987 (OP)
I can do that even on fucking xfce kek

>>105901987 (OP)
>>105902006
willing to bet linux has had this within the first 2 years of its existance
>>105904606
indeed I am always correct

>>105906034
>Green doesn't make it maximised, it makes it full screen and hides the dock and title bar
I remember when green randomly resized the window (it made sense in some convoluted way to macfags but not to other people)
then they added a fullscreen mode then they turned the green button into the fullscreen... and you can still maximize like its windows by doubleclicking the titlebar... funny shit

>>105907124
we accept your concession jaynigger

>>105907291
>>105907330
>>105907749
kde is so fucking cozy its unreal
aryan software
>krashes
hardware error

>>105908082
thanks :)

>>105908082
kope

>>105908193
user or hardware error

>>105908200
>user
yes, it's user error. the user should have installed a better DE

>>105908193
It can happen when you update kde while it's running. Next time just stop kde, update and start it again. Windows literally forces you to restart whole OS in such cases. Or just do what is written on your screen, if you like the wrong way.

>>105908316
Are they fucking retarded? Why does my package manager update files that are live currently on the system ? Can’t they just flag them to apply the changes on reboot or something like everyone fucking else does ? Why do I gotta deal with this shit myself ??

>>105908563
Fun fact ms is moving into hotpatch land too enjoy your crashes in a few years when they force it on desktop.

>>105908563
>Can’t they just flag them to apply the changes on reboot
Some machines almost never reboot
>Why do I gotta deal with this shit myself ??
Because everyone executed "loginctl unlock-session" and didn't report it?

>>105908692
Why would they do that if it clearly sucks extreme ass on Linux, source?
>>105908802
KDE is a desktop environment, who cares about some random with a server who never shuts it off, there’s no reason why there isn’t a flag that auto handles updates of things like the fucking DE packages, does gnome have this problem ? Do the rats have this problem? It sounds like a dev issue to me

>>105901987 (OP)
I dont think I have ever used a Linux DE or WM that had such tiling features, either natively or by a simple extension. To think that apple took 20 something years to add this to OSX is baffling. The have probably only done it due to the fact that "Rectangle" (I almost called it "Square" at first) and other (((apps))) were eating charging money for a feature that sbould be part of the OS, so it got sherlocked.

>>105909104
>had such tiling features
that *did not have* such tiling features

>>105902006
>macOS needs 3 keys to do the bare minimum of tiling
what exactly is taking up command+arrow key
windows/linux can do super+arrow key just fine

>>105909122
>what exactly is taking up command+arrow key
default for going to start/end of a text input or line

>>105909323
doesnt end and home usually accomplish this?

>>105909533
the semantics are a bit different but usually yes. but cmd+horizontal arrow is the same as fn+horizontal arrow on windows on my logitech keyboard at least.
cmd+vertical keys go to the beginning and end of file, and cmd+opt+left move the window to the screen on the left (or the rightmost if there's none), for example.

>>105901987 (OP)
*laughs in hyprland*

>>105909700
cringe

>>105901987 (OP)
>he fell for the loonix meme

>>105901987 (OP)
Works on my machine.

>>105905979
it can, the colour is behind the wallpaper
turn it off and you’ll see it

>>105908563
that’s what nixos does if you don’t pass switch to nixos-rebuild

>>105909122
this is not macos native - this is Rectangle, a Free and Open Source application under MIT license for macos that does tiling. shortcuts are fully customizable to whatever you like.

>>105901987 (OP)
I even had this on Windows since ca 2004 thanks to Winsplit. It's been a built-in in KDE since god knows when.

>>105901987 (OP)
like specifically a button? xfce4 has the setup where you just drag it to the corner or side you want to tile it on

>>105907291
alt+left to drag and alt+right to change window size is an x display server default im pretty sure

>>105907749
xfce4-screenshot allows you to do selection screenshots
>the feature im showcasing are the notes
nevermind

>>105908184
dolphin has this fea-

nice

>>105901987 (OP)
lol lmao even

>>105912563
why does the record key do so many things at once?

>>105905979
lies

linsisters...

>>105914391
because it is antisemitic

>>105901987 (OP)
when will aplel have resolution changer topkek

>>105901987 (OP)
I wonder when will apple be able to handle at least one external monitor well

>>105901987 (OP)
Just wait till macOS "invents" a proper alt+tab where you can find all your windows and even different windows of the same app and have small thumbnails of said windows, I bet windows and linux are going to retroactively copy it as soon as macOS invents it.

Seriously, right now the cmd+tab of macOS is worse than windows 1.0.

>>105912507
>>105914877
I'll admit that I was going off memory and didn't actually check before posting, so thanks.

>>105917282
Why is there [DATA EXPUNGED] here

Mac OS still doesn't have basic volume mixer control on per program level. You have to buy a paid program to get it

>>105908193
just don't use systemd :)

>>105901987 (OP)
>ITT basic functionality linux had decades before the competition
fixed that for you

>>105917830
this is not a systemd problem, stop pushing luddite shite.

>>105917830
i use kde + systemd and updoot regularly, never had this issue

>>105917920
>loginctl
>not a systemd problem
lmao retard

>>105912519
Yeah but using nix implies I have to learn nix which is a shituseless language to learn and most importantly a shitly convoluted OS to daily drive. Id rather tty the problems in kde than do that. I just kinda wish the retards at kde got their shit together as well.

>>105917959
It's now in openrc, they slowly merge features after they were stabilised for years, or if alternative was abandoned (consolekit).

>>105918187
>openrc has the cancer
now I know what I won't use for the next devuan install

>>105918240
why shuold we care, retrasado?

>>105918264
cute toes

>>105918240
Well with "openrc" I meant alternative setup from gentoo, formally elogind is not a part of openrc. And I don't think you have a choice for this thing during devuan install.

>>105918264
The fuck is that yellow shit? Not the girl, on the plate.

>>105918379
lotus root, you need to visit /ck/ every once in a while to expand your pallete anon.

>>105917674
that's a lot of words just to say you're poor

>>105918436
Being poor and knowing the value of money are not the same thing, rich people spend money on expensive wine because it's worth it, but theres no need to spend money on luxury baknig trays when you can just rewash old ones. Same thing with paying for shit that is free on every other OS in existance.

>>105918464
loonix is only free if your time has no value

>>105918552
volume mixers are also free on windows you absolute retard jeet

>>105918569
windows costs money retard

>>105910949
holy shit I instantly wiped it after your comment and boughted an appel thanks for setting me straight anon

>>105918450
use case?

>>105901987 (OP)
My windows open in the correct position and the correct size so I don't have that problem.

>>105918623
it costs money to a low iq currynigger like you maybe. High IQ White men get it for free or for pocket change.

>>105902006
Honestly i never in my life used these things.

>>105918623
Win11 came free with my laptop

>>105918678
>>105918690
>admitting to having committed a crime on the internet
stop larping as white men

>>105918450
works in kde

>>105918725
giving money to microshart is a crime

>>105918738
But this is retarded, why create file system on top of other file system? This data is cached somewhere, cringe filenames can remain there for some time... This is a windows-only feature, because their fs is shit, don't know why KDE added it, maybe specifically for such threads. On Linux you can just use directories and hardlinks.

>>105918870
not a problem, btw. wont patch

>>105906034
>Red button doesn't close the application...except when it does
It closes the window, which is exactly what it has always been defined to do. Many Linux WMs have the exact same feature.
The big difference is whether an application can keep going after its last window closes. That's more common on macOS, and rare on Linux (it's totally technically possible).

>>105919041
Country with the most linux usage is finland btw, second place is norway BTW.

>>105918911
I don't care, I had it disabled (file system search), had to enable to check tags. I always disable it immediately after install because it uses hard drive without my permission.

>>105919073
you misspelled india

>>105919073
many applications continue running in the background after you close its window on both linux and windows but you don't have any visual indication of that being the case, other than sometimes the app putting something in the system tray.
the whatsapp native app for example doesn't even do that, it just runs forever in the background without windows telling you that it is.
at least on macos when you quit an app (cmd+q) and the dot under the icon disappears, it quits for real

>>105918436
I have unbinned m4 pro mbp

>>105918240
sysvinit bros... we won

>>105902006
Niri mogs the fuck out of this.

>>105918436
mental retardation or bait?

>>105919553
>whatsapp native app
It's probably a "progressive web app"

>>105917959
loginctl indeed has nothing to do with the kde login manager krashing.

>>105919553
>many applications continue running in the background after you close its window on both linux
doubt. unless it's some service.

>>105908049
lmao u dumb retard. that tinker tranny is adding the feature in 2025. it didn't exist in linux in 1989.

>>105919684
the beta app isn't. supposedly.

>>105919772
I literally gave you an example, whatsapp, which is a uwp app installed from the ms store. you can close its window, check that there's nothing in the system tray, open task manager and confirm that it's still there. you need to go into Apps & something in the system settings and click Terminate.
another example is ms edge.
can't speak for linux since it's been years since I've last daily drove it but it's not hard to imagine the same thing also happens if some application chooses to do that

>>105920029
>that tinker tranny
I'm not a tranny. Porn has fried your brain.

>>105922118
The one on the right is literally one of the stupidest UX choices ever made. Use Homebrew.
t. employed owner of a Macbook Pro™ 2025

>>105901987 (OP)
Linux is fully independent though and not run by evil corporations.

You're just a consumer, if you don't contribute code and no one is asking for your feedback then why do you feel entitled to give it? You're using someone else's software that they graciously made public and free and you're still whining to them? That's brat behavior.
And this also applies even if you donate money to a project.

>>105923631
Yes, being funded and being run are different things, your currynigger brain wouldn't understand that tho.

>>105923640
>>105923675

good goy. dont question the organizations exerting their influence behind the scenes. These corporations renowned for their stellar consumer and privacy practices are doing it for (((charity))). Definetly not a conflict of interest at all.

>>105912834
>>105905262
>i post le bait picture

>>105923515
>Homebrew
good advice, macsis, homebrew can easily install software for multiple users, unlike these retarded linux package managers for unemployed chuds

>>105923631
Linux is under GPL, they can't make a propritary fork and developing the whole kernel is too expensive, so they have no choice but to pay devs to do what they need in mainline. While what you wrote indeed has chance to happen, "influence" on GPL product is magnitudes of order less than influence on their proprietary products, so what you even wanted to say with that?

>>105923906
ahem, no.

>>105923971
I don't see a contradiction, what exactly seems bad to you?

>>105923675
power devolved is power retained

>>105924001
>it's just tencent, Google, MS, and freaking blackrock backing and providing technical input to our independent,free, anti corporate software bro
uh, nothing I guess. Just don't go around saying shareware from a non free vendor is Spyware when you yourself are using compromised software that is essentially controlled opposition.

>>105924120
If you work in apple and pay to netflix, it doesn't mean that you control both of them. Paying and working doesn't always mean huge influence.

>>105901987 (OP)
>>105902006
ok, so that didnt work out
how 'bout functionalities macos will never have, now

>>105924396
you are right, big corporations always have good intentions. When they invest into technology (which just so happens to be embedded into millions of different devices) it is for the betterment of mankind and not for corporate interest at all. The Linux foundation merely benefits from the kindness of corporations without giving back anything in return.

>>105924618
Retard, they don't invest, they do their own things because they use linux. Just read what they pay for and what they develop there.

>>105901987 (OP)
lmao

>>105925272
cope. they literally inject their devs and money into the project
>>105923971

>>105907291
Linux users be like: “how do I install MarmosetCock version 5.6 onto my machine running on Unga Bunga Shitstain 1.4? Do I need to download WalleyeFeces? Or can I just install it off of FriedGooch Network? My end goal of this is being able to make a folder

>>105925272
but don't worry despite the financial and technical backing of mega corps, Linux remains independent and free. pinky promise bro

>>105925623
kek. pure gold.

these blatant troll threads

>>105904606
>It's pretty far down on my todo list but I'm adding this feature to a window manager from 1989.
uhm, BASED

>>105901987 (OP)
That's cool. Here's a basic functionality that MacOS will never have: a proper and consistently functioning maximize button

>>105925610
>>105925645
>Samsung contributes to the mainline Linux kernel by upstreaming drivers and code for their Exynos system-on-chips (SoCs) and devices. This involves cleaning up device-specific code and integrating it into the mainline kernel, allowing for broader support and easier maintenance. Samsung also works on enabling support for their hardware, like the Exynos 9810 SoC, in newer kernel versions.
>Microsoft primarily contributes to the Linux kernel through code focused on improving the performance and functionality of running Linux as a guest operating system on Hyper-V, Microsoft's virtualization platform. This includes developing drivers that enable Linux to better utilize Hyper-V's virtualization features. Additionally, Microsoft contributes to the mainline kernel to support its own open-source projects like WSL and Azure Linux.
And so on. They do it for their own profit, because they can't make a proprietary fork, I can repeat again if you are retarded. They also could make a free fork but contributing to mainline is cheaper for them, they don't need additional devs for regular merging mainline to their fork. You are wrong, they are not sponsoring Linux and developing it because of some conspiracy. From companies on your picture only Microsoft is a competitor of Linux, and they contribute to server features and some shit for wsl. Other companies don't care, they need to use it and they want improvements, that's all. Linux is in datacenters, supercomputers etc, your anime watching machine is not what they care about.

>>105925610
>>105925645
>they can't make a proprietary fork
If you don't like devs and money being injected you can use bsd. In this case they CAN make a fork so mentioned things almost never happen.

>>105926474
this is the only sensible solution. But I might as well stick to windows desu.