Thread 105902503

Do you have a paper shredder for OPSEC? I don't use paper that much, but when I do, I get paranoid about who may get his hands on it.

I looked into it and you need a P7 security rating shredder for good opsec. Minimum 1200 bucks.

I could burn the paper for free, but that's hard in an appartment

>>105902503 (OP)
I'm not that important to need one
Or autistic

>>105902521
Don't sell yourself short.

just flush it down the toilet

>>105902503 (OP)
I have a cheap one because I don't recycle and use a neighbor's trashcan for my garbage disposal

>>105902503 (OP)
no, but I want one just to dispose of paper bills/invoices after paying

How likely is it that someone will target your trash for documents? Shredders with worse ratings are good enough for your electric bills.

>>105902503 (OP)
yes, i have one, but not for the opsec. because im in germany and everyone and their mother loves sending fucking letters, newspapers, catalogues, and other printed shit. i have a sticker on my postal box to not drop commercial and promo materials, but it doesn't help all that much.
destroying all that crap with cheap 30eur shredder seems to me the most-efficient way of fighting paper shizos.

>>105902503 (OP)
what kind of a paper shredder is this? looks crazy compared to the regular ones

>>105902591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtWYCZhghwY

>>105902591
Security level P7, NSA standard

>>105902503 (OP)
Don't be retarded and shred documents in one piece. Rip them in half once or twice. Reorient when you shred. Shred dummy stuff, like the envelope or other useless papers. And if you really just, run a marker or an ink roller over the document you're shredding.

>>105902596
>>105902604
damn, that's a nice shredder, even CDs and credit cards, I could need one like this because I got here so many CDs and DVDs I don't need anymore and I don't want to throw them away like this and I guess breaking them apart isn't helpful neither

>>105902591
the good ones turn paper into flakes
those shreds can be pieced together

>>105902564
not OP, but of course no one will do that, and obviously no one needs a P7 NATO-ready shredder lmao, as the flakes are illegible enough
I just don't like having information legible/visible when I throw shit out

>>105902634
My point is that get a P4-P5, far cheaper and good enough.

>>105902617
I got an $90 one on amazon a few years ago that can do cd's and cards too, it's of course much cheaper looking and feeling but it does its job really well
The one from the video is probably in the thousands

>>105902617
>even CDs and credit cards
that's normal even for low level shredders, like the cheapo ones you can pick up at any home electronics/office supply store

>>105902617
i use this one: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BD38CT4D
also eats credit cards / sim cards pretty good. you don't really need that bank-grade shredding just to destroy things in a way that it would be very difficult to recreate.
mine is rated P4, but once it is dumped into garbage bag and shaken-up - well, good luck for anyone trying to put it all together again. just wait till bin is full before throwing it out.

>>105902503 (OP)
all I see when I see shredded paper is a puzzle waiting to be solved (I'm autistic btw)
the only way to make your paper documents secret is fire.

>>105902503 (OP)
if they have your paper shreds it's already too late and your opsec failed. opsec means you don't get looked at to begin with

>>105902652
yeah, my point

>>105902654
seems P6 shredders are in the ~3-4000USD class (converting from the prices I see in my currency), but of course the target audience is government agencies and banks etc, as is P7 which is also for military use

>>105902673
thanks, will check it out!

>>105902564
I've seen a person at my local town dump going through papers.

>>105902684
good luck with OP's video
it's like piecing together grains of sand

>These machines are designed primarily for government agencies that handle top secret documents that must be destroyed beyond recognition. The knives in these machines are extremely efficient and cut the paper with high security cross-cut technology. The particles left behind by the documents are impossible to remove even with the most advanced equipment.

>>105902684
Yes fire is great. Will my neighbors complain if I burn paper on my balcony?

>>105902673
>>105902720
>Derzeit nicht verfügbar.
geilo, preis sieht mana uch nicht, wie teuer war der müll denn? ah, da ist ein vorschlag für ein neueres modell mit 63euro

>>105902695
>3-4000USD class
3-40000*
or 40k for clarity

>>105902721
People absolutely do it. You have to make it hard enough, which shredders do. P7 is overkill, P4 is annoying enough that someone dumpster diving wont bother.

>>105902720
In Better Call Saul, you can see why normal shredders suck

>>105902746
>Better Call Saul
never watched this show, did I miss out?

>>105902743
Why take a chance though. Anyway yoyr point is correct. People are nosy

>>105902753
I think it was pretty neato. But very depressing in the end

>>105902757
>Why take a chance though.
Cost efficiency. Higher ratings inflate the costs for corporate spending.

>>105902736
32 eur inkl mwst

>>105902778
I found one for 1200 something euros excluding VAT. Seems like a lot for shredding papers but imagine one day I get rekt bcs I didnt autism enough

>>105902782
danke

>>105902825
Well that's risk management for you.

>>105902503 (OP)
Buy a $5 bowl amd fill it with water and dissolve the paper in it. Then flush the water.

I love my shredder, used it a fair bit yesterday actually.

>>105902503 (OP)
I have a people shredder for OPSEC.

>>105902503 (OP)
acid > fire > confettis

>>105902503 (OP)
>I could burn the paper for free, but that's hard in an appartment
I would do that. Just go outside and burn it somewhere in the wildness.

>>105903534
What if they are knocking at your door and you need to shred quickly. Never happened in my life but what if

>>105902503 (OP)
If you’re that worried about OPSEC, you would be using a burn bag instead. Granted, I doubt you’re doing anything that requires that precaution but if you’re getting nervous about shredding just go for incineration at that point. There’s some more field expedient ways but I don’t think you need to worry about that. If someone was actively targeting you (at least we’re not) then probably.
t. glowing

>>105902503 (OP)
Just shhot the paper with glock retard

>>105902503 (OP)
>can't burn
use dissolvent liquids
>>105902896
based

>>105902503 (OP)
A place I worked at contracted shredders every week who destroyed everything on-site, so you could use such a service if you really wanted
>Shred Station delivers paper shredding and confidential waste disposal services across London, operating from our secure shredding depot just north of London.

>>105902503 (OP)
I eat it. The only sure way to dispose of it.

>>105902546
>implying the government isn't monitoring what comes out of the sewer

I prefer fire.

>>105902596
imagine putting a scanner or camera in this thing and exfiltrating every single doc inserted lmao

>>105902734
Depends on your neighbours, how much paper you need to burn, how often, do they keep their windows open, which way is the wind blowing, etc.
Make sure no plastic goes in the fire. It smells really bad and produces smoke that can more easily mark things.

>>105902503 (OP)
I just hoard all of my sensitive documents in drawers and boxes forever. Paper doesn't take up that much space.

Op here. Ill just buy it

>>105904576
With the new pajeet menace that might not be a good solution, unless you want to entice them.

>>105904313
anon is your mail waterproof? it disintegrates into nothing
you could always just burn it instead and then flush the ashes

>>105902596
i kinda want a shredder like this but more for just deleting all my waste. i hate having stuff protrude in the trash bag and make it rip and shit. i would throw entire glass bottles into that bitch

how much are you retards printing? even if it's shit from your bank or something you can request they stop sending you letters and do everything electronically. it's 2006 why are you still doing this boomer shit

If you're worried about it just shred into a basin of water and vinegar and pulp it with a paint mixing bit on an electric drill once in a while