How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archieve, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
• JCally JM20 Pro (8-Band PEQ) - $24
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>105893011

>>105907547

why is ziigaat shitting out so many IEMs so fast lol?

remember to never EQ

>>105908591
*to anything other than fox target

Remember to only listen to real music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBtchh_R4XY

EDC Pro and Bunny, both top of their game.
Gate too but it somehow has driver flex and feels the cheapest out of the bunch.

>>105908591
@Grok remove the third hand, increase breast size by three folds, add pubes, add running mascara, have her display a smug, but seductive toothy grin

>>105908705
no doubt they are all top tier trash

>>105908938
They sound great with EQ, on par with any other pos.

>>105908950
what is your eq for the Gate?

>>105908247 (OP)
is the tanchjim force worth it if i already have the origin

Who is Jim and why is he trans?

>>105909101
Wait for Origin AT

one day techs will be a solved case

>>105909312
Lucky for you Mr Sallee the GOAT just showed us how to change techs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DHDzNDr5c

Top 5 audio schizos?

>>105909101
>is the tanchjim force worth it
what are you even looking for you dumb retard

>>105909312
They're already solved.

>>105909339
chuzo (crazy), foxzo (dedicated and horny), eqzo (autistic), totlzo (/iemg/ is his blog and we're just comments) and zishanzo (progenitor)
shoutout to editorzo for being the most normal anon here

>>105909339
summoning russia haterzo

i just bought a pair of epz q1 pros for about 23 usd from aliexpress and these iems are crazy, you should add them to the op. i don't think they can be beaten for the price, especially if you eq them. might get someone on etsy to spruce mine up

ok you have to be shitting me, who's runningg which psyops?

>>105909477
foxzo and his cabal of discord trannies are the only ones running psyops

>>105909484
True.

Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/z6DHDzNDr5c

>>105909484
Preventing people from wasting hundreds when they can get endgame products for 30 dollars isn't much of a psyops

>>105909503
the psyop is deleting posts that make foxzo seethe

>>105909500
The terms don't mean anything, the most important revelation about audio is that audiophiles simply hallucinate what they hear purely from looks and marketing blurbs.

>>105909330
can't say I'm impressed with soundstage demonstration lol

>>105909462
>i just bought a pair of epz q1 pros for about 23 usd
proof?

What's the meme $40 pos of the month?

>>105909355
i would take totlzo's blog over the recent schizoposting

>>105909638
TRI Draco by the looks of things

>>105909638
Another good option

>>105909682
unironically a hidden gem (with EQ)

Literally who asked for this.

Why were these xiaomi thingy shilled a decade ago???

The ones the smell like chocolate???

>>105909717
>still doing harman in 2025
the fuck are they doing

I found foxzo's twitter account.

https://youtu.be/V62DZUiOUdY?t=772
lmao
this confirms my theory that truthear engineers are fucking retarded and can't think for themselves and have no idea what the fuck they are doing without crin telling them... And that hexa was a fucking fluke.
holy
shit
truthear sucks

Triple falge is not a meme, bros.

>>105910596
>falge
LOL !!

>>105910493
>bald headpos law freak
uhhh

>>105910631

>mogs your pos

>>105909496
>single fagnle
>endgame

>>105910732
Before Christ driver?

>>105910732
lol it probably sounds like dogshit

>>105910643
uuh what you fucking retard?

Buy KBEAR KB01.
Cadenza but better and cheaper.

>>105901622
>better than any chifi waifu
wow...

>>105910748
bone conduction

>>105910911
>basically the same pos
well that's impressive
do they unironically have the same driver? also not a fan of ~12k peak they both have

>>105910737
Only IEMs you can wear all day can be endgame.

>>105910911
>Cadenza but better and cheaper.
nope and nope

>>105909561
Remember when everyone collectively hallucinated BA timbre on CRN? Good times.

>>105912502
many such cases

Light Song by KZ is /iemg/'s anthem.
EDC Pro by KZ is the way it's meant to be played.

>>105912544
Obsolete
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11l1e7V2gl0

>>105910493
Silver may be a Jew but he has good ear and Truthear was right to listen to his suggestions

>>105910493
Nigga at least they know what targets are and they know how to consistently hit them. There's like 4 companies in the world that can do this.

>>105912582
that's not the point
>>105912601
what the fuck do they know if they wanted to turn basically hexa 2 into another harman but with even more treble shout?
so fucking stupid

>>105912672
the fuck are you talking about? they turned the already mudslop hexa even muddier thats the problem

>>105912734
stop taking HRT

>>105912736
stop watching bald retards

>>105912734
In the video he said the original plan for pure was more harman-like but the twink pranked them into making slop.

>>105912748
proving once again collab sharts are the bane of the industry

Imagine taking tuning advice from someone that thinks hd650 sounds good.

>>105912741
no, really, if you think that hexa which already has lean midbass that's almost in-line with the flatline neutral target is a mudslop, it means your perception of sound is either severely distorted by shartman gay conditioning or you simply have no balls

>>105912734
you are retarded
>>105912748
he is not wrong tho they have enough harman-style sets already why the fuck would they need another one?

but all of you are missing the fucking point about all of this

>>105912760
>t. never heard hd650

>>105912756
it's not even a collab you dumb cuck

>>105912778
yes its mudslop sorry, jm1 is just as gay as shartman

>>105912784
Unfortunately I did, it showed me that audio can in fact be low-res.

>>105912787
your brain is unironically broken

>>105912794
cry more jm1 troon

>>105912787
but shartman is gay exactly because it has no midbass

>>105912810
it's sharur shiposting
obviously

>>105912810
shartman is gay because sean olive is a communist
jm1 is gay because bald retards like it

>>105912807
what does this even mean

>>105912824
>shartman is gay because sean olive is a communist
sounds like you are gay and sean olive is based
also seething about communists in a thread about chink drive hobby is pretty funny
get your shit together dumb retard

>>105912839
Found the raging homosexual.

>>105912839
sorry i should've specified he is a westoid baizuo communist, all hail the ccp :)

He transitioned, it's over.

>>105912867
oh no...

>>105912824
The crazy thing is baldy isn't even fully on board with this shit, he prefers more traditionally tuned IEMs like hype 4. He's also the most IEM-pilled and EQ-pilled of the bunch, says HE-1 needs EQ.

>>105912933
i don't give a single shit, why are you so obsessed with what this bald retard thinks

The Sony Anon Formerly known Tanchjim anon. Was going down memory lane and looking at one of my first set ups. Crazy how much has changed in this space since 2020. Tin Hifi has basically disappeared and moondrop has been chasing the same target for 5 years. I now daily an android DAP when back in the day that would have been a massive meme. I do somewhat miss the form factor of the r3pro saber, but it is much easier to manage my library when I can just sync it to my music server. I used to buy and try all the flavor of the months back then, but just too much stuff coming out now to really make that worth it.

>>105912867
Smart. Music is a lot more enjoyable if you dial down the bass.

>>105912963
60 years old moment.

>>105908247 (OP)
Got myself a black Kinera Celest Wyvern, damn the fit is so good and the design looks so nice, even though they seem a little bulky for a single DD thing. No issues with how they sound, too.

I trimmed my IEM collection down a bunch and try and really only keep 4 on hand at any given time. As then I feel I can appreciate them more. Just traded my Monarch mk3 for a pair of ie900s. Been liking them much more. The mk3 has good bass, but it was a bit bloated too my ears and affect the rest of the signature. The ie900's bass is amazing and comparing it to the z1r I had for a while, I'd say its honestly better. That anon hating on the z1r I have to say I agree at this point. I tried to cope for a while, but the tuning was so weird and the fit while actually fine for my ears, when all my other iems were 10/10 comfort I never used it.

Current IEMs:
Unique Melody Mest mk2 (Probably my favorite rn.)
Sony ier-m9 (First foray into "kilobuck" IEMs and still a very comfy set)
Tanchjim Origin (I just like having a tanchjim set always. The midrange on this though makes it actually compelling to keep)
Sennheiser ie900 (Not worth it at MSRP but as I got it from a trade+ the dude paid some cash on top I have been loving them. My mest mk2 are getting their free refurbishment currently so these have been getting a lot of ear time).

Dap:
Ibasso Dx180. Replaceable battery. That's really it. I had the hiby r4 before this and love that thing, but user replaceable battery is amazing for a device you don't really need to upgrade as its literally just playing music/running the occasional music streaming app.

>>105908247 (OP)
Is Simgot EW300 any good?

I see mentions of EW200 or EA500 but is EW300 bad or is there just no love for hybrids here?

>>105912502
It has some kind of shit resonance that you can appreciate on a graph too, everyone commenting it had something ear hurting was right

>>105913153
Wonder how EW300 compares to SuperMix 4, it really seems to be a SuperMix 4 minus BA

>>105912867
Pagpags ITT will not realize speaker bass is a whole different game, and even flat bass can be overbearing

>>105908247 (OP)
geting milked like a cow, one step at a time, first the clown tranime headphones, now the n*g*er cattle devices, way to go retards, way to go

>even flat bass can be overbearing

>>105913401
You have never heard flat bass on a speaker lol

>>105913538
Yeah, because I EQd to a 6dB bass shelf straight from the beginning and it was still too bright.

> Technicalities
> Soundstage
> Color

Are "audiophiles" retarded or something? If you can't measure something then it doesn't exist. There's no reason whatsoever to spend more than 50$ on an IEM.
There are only 3 crucial things, sound profile, distortion and comfort. Anything else is pure snake oil to sell you expensive stuff.

>>105913704
You are a broke pagpag

>Technicalities
>Soundstage
>Color
>Expensive cables
Are "audiophiles" retarded or something? If you can't measure something then it doesn't exist. There's no reason whatsoever to spend more than 50$ on an IEM.
There are only 3 crucial things, sound profile, distortion and comfort. Anything else is pure snake oil to sell you expensive stuff.

>>105913712
Wtf bro took it personally

>>105913734
Oh there we go >>105913712

>>105912791
>>105912784
HD650 owner here. This is not entirely false. However the HD650 is still more detailed than a lot of things because
>dark treble is better than bad treble
I’d rather take a smooth and natural tonality over jagged garbage every day, tone is king.
That being said…the best solution is to obviously have both. Triple flange gate does this pretty damn well but EQing any POS should work fine as well.

>>105910493
monolids add minimum 5db to upper mids.

>>105912352
>$35 vs $20
>nope
?

>>105910911
that's the most lukewarm earphone i have ever listened, it sounds like nothing. it just spits sound.

>>105914569
did you just imply my epz q1 doesnt have the same techs as a monarch?

>>105913734
everything you said is wrong. you can't measure how you perceive stereo imaging or soundstage.
>>105914580
will never happen. can't eq techs.

>>105914616
Mental illness is not a built-in property of an IEM.

>>105914616
trvke

>>105914644
you're deflecting now even though you're the one that started going off saying everything is fake. either you're coping, or you're deaf, I don't know, but
>If you can’t measure it, it doesn’t exist
is bs. human hearing is psychoacoustic, not just electrical.
>There’s no reason to spend more than $50 on a pos.
is bs
>Only 3 things matter: tuning, distortion, comfort
is false again. identically tuned pos sound drastically different and people know what they hear. look at oxygen and olina.

>>105914981
>>105909561

>>105914981
>identically tuned pos sound drastically different and people know what they hear. look at oxygen and olina.
I agree, starfield and oxygen also sound very different despite having a similar FR. One is a soundstage monster tech god and the other is a mushy no-transients pos

>>105914981
Placebo is not a valid reason to spend more than $50 on pos.
>identically tuned pos
Untrained listeners(you) hear the exact same IEM differently if they can and if they can't see it, and you think it's some kind of a gotcha that two IEMs with the same graph don't sound the same despite them physically not having the same response at your eardrum. Read the EQ guide.

>>105915045
do you faggots ever shut the fuck up? you've never heard an oxygen nor an olina, therefore you are just theorizing

>>105915053
You think you're hearing. But actually you're just looking. Many such cases.

>>105915073
you've posted this graph exactly 10000 times, congratulations

Sometimes I go to a Jollibee's and I tell myself: ''today I will leave some meat on the bone, I know theres people that need it more than me and will scavenge it properly'', but then I read this thread and this thought passes me by

>>105915082
Every day until you 41%

>>105915032
>One is a soundstage monster tech god and the other is a mushy no-transients pos.
another great example
>>105915045
>physical differences change the sound
yes, but that's what you were just arguing against...do you know what boosted bass or even bass on the aful magicone sounds like? no amount of eq will take it anywhere close to what something like CRA can do with bass. let's be real here.

>>105915130
BA pos has different distortion and leak tolerance. Audio is not magic.

>>105915145
glad you agree. you're naming the things eq can't close the gap between technicalities.
the climate in here is a little damp with the idea you can eq driver behavior.
this is why some people keep repeating, "BA pos avoid". it's because their precious eq can't save it. but they won't admit to it, which is fun to watch.

>>105915205
I don't know if you have alzheimer's or something but distortion was literally named here >>105913734
"glad you agree", lmao.

>>105915124
if you showed this dilligence in making money you wouldnt have to post graphs all day lol

>>105908247 (OP)
You guys know of a buying guide like the one in OP but for bluetooth earbuds?

>>105915053
Oxygen and Witch IEM(endgame) sound the same when EQd to the same target. But Oxygen has much worse comfort and isolation.

>>105915265
>2 iems
cute

>>105915274
>6 funko pops
>0 personalized IEMs
grim

>>105915244
distortion was named..by you, as one of the things eq can’t fix, like that’s supposed to make me look wrong. I mean you're just reinforcing my point.

>>105915274
Im getting third one soon! Aside from 15 pos pieces Im not using anymore

>>105915301
I have more but I cant be arsed to like find all of them and make a pic, CCA CRA and QKZ x HBB are my budget kings

>>105915326
Cute

>>105915365
>CRA
I'm in love with its bass, even compared to my more expensive pos

>>105915325
Nobody said EQ can fix everything. You're shadowboxing.

>>105915471
you're squirming. I KNEW you'd say something like 'nobody's saying eq fixes everything'.
let me guess, you think I'm gatekeeping techs too, right? this is the second time you've backpedaled, after getting caught contradicting yourself and now you act like it was never your argument to begin with..

>>105915570
>I was merely pretending to be retarded

>>105915581
thanks for playing

it just works

>>105915570
these people are pagpags bro they are paid 0.0001 cents per post

>fight your own hallucinated conversation
>lose

>>105915274
You know what's better than 2 IEMs?

>>105915721
a russian troon giving you a pawjob in a kemono

>>105915274
>shows off a bunch of freebies
bruh...

>>105915274
I own 9 pos. 10 if you count duplicates.

Have to work in an office. Want Usb-C ANC earbuds. Only available option seems to be gamer buds with flashy fucking lights on them. Anyone have any other suggestions?

>>105915894
I think bose had a model. Not sure if it's still produced.

>>105915251
scarbir.com

>>105915894
try airpods pro 2

Imagine not having enough hole space to accommodate triple flan tips.

>>105915721
2 big shipments of missiles to ukraine (thanks trump) to kill retarded vatnik ziggers

whats a good music player for android? ive been using foobar2000 for a long time now but it has some pretty big issues, especially regarding performance, and looking at their forum, any pleas for improvement are being ignored.

$20 gets you bullshit with soul at best

>>105916315
musicolet is amazing

>scraping triple flange against the ear canal skin after every reseat
why do anons like that

>>105916315
Musicolet for free, or paid Poweramp.

>>105916315
UAPP or gtfo

what's the best podcast/audiobook player on ios that supports local files? currently using foobar but missing features like sleep timer and so on

After about a month of using the AFUL Explorer, I can say that I like them and will be keeping them. My initial impressions were that I was missing some detail while listening on them, but then switching back to more detailed sets made me miss the full and rich sound of the explorer. They are also very nice to listen to for a long time, or to turn up to medium-high volumes. I find on a lot of sets that I want to turn them up for more fullness and impact, but then the treble and upper mids are overbearing, you get sub bass thump, but it’s not satisfying. The explorer, for me, doesn’t have that problem

If only there was some way to boost subbass without raising the overall volume...

Hear ye, good people! Hear ye! There be a new evil afoot, a most unnatural force that doth twist and corrupt the very sounds of our world! They call it... the EQ!

My own sister, bless her simple heart, she was humming a sweet tune, and then that travelling merchant, with his strange wires and his glowing lights, he said he could make her voice "cut through the mix"! He spoke of frequencies and filters, of making her voice "present"! It's unnatural, I tell ye! He was making her voice larger than life, a monstrous thing!

>>105917741
>>105918347

Don't care.
Anyways, buy the Prestige LTD.

>>105908247 (OP)
TopPro fags, how long did you wait for shipment? I just hit 4 weeks and nothing

>>105918608
Get my wife's name out your fucking mouth.

>>105918635
email the store, sometimes they forget about your order

thoroughly enjoying these schizo tales

imagine using a chink-fi 1DD without sound tube techs

>>105918971
>he doesn't know about 3d printed sound tubes

>listening to YouTube dnb mixes with my p50s without equalization
turbo comfy

this is going to sound stupid (and it is) but i hate the braided cables for iems so thats why i never consider them as an option

>>105919065
Why

>listening to YouTube dnb mixes with my ST2 without equalization
turbo comfy

>>105919482
looks atrocious

>>105919482
>listening to drum and bass without bass

>>105919546
nuanced bass > 1 note fart bass

is there such a thing as "retro" iems? I have a minidisc player and it would be cool to use 90s iems to larp as a 90s guy but it seems like they're more of a 2010/20s thing. was it just over ears and poorly fitting flat faced earbuds?

>>105919649
hmm.. etymotic er4 was released in 1991

>>105919649
90s, no, even if there are IEMs released back then >>105919663
But in 2000s IEMs were already all the rage.

Just bought this funny looking pos for a bit over 1 dollar. It is endgame I can feel it.

>>105919877
with the right EQ settings it will be indistinguishable from a monarch

>>105919905
You might need to poke some holes in the drivers to emulate BAs tho.

>>105919691
they're no iems, they're just canal earphones, but yeah, in mid-2000s they started to get popular
however among sony ericssons my favorites were HPM-20 flatheads with stock foams for nice bass

>>105918608
obsoleted by Monarch mk4

As annoying as EQfags are, the opposite camp doesn't seem to have any valid rebuttal.
Why not pick apart the guide instead of throwing the same insults over and over?

>>105920239
all they can say is "you can't EQ techs" but they don't even have a proper definition of what techs are or why they can't be measured or EQd
fact that sound quality doesn't correlate with prices was also established for decades for pretty much all audio equipment. they can't refute literal decades of research lol

>>105920272
>>105908437

>>105920272
Techs are defined as everything that FR doesn't show. But when you can't read graphs techs are everything.

Removing foxzo, what pos do you tech deniers even have, wankers?

>>105920272(me)
also we have literal proof after proof that chinese IEM makers have no fucking idea what they are doing. they are literally just using info prominent audiophile creators accumulated. They do not do their own rnd. They have no research. They have no understanding of psychoacoustics.
Thinking these retards can somehow make a good kilobuck IEM is hilarious. It's all scam.

>>105920315
Origin and EDC Pro.
A few others I own, and probably a over >400 I've tested at length so far.

>>105920293
>Techs are defined as everything that FR doesn't show.
that's pretty meaningless definition

>>105920334
Are you per chance the guy that modded the nozzles of some kz and was named the fatfingers or smth

>>105920325
The top 3-5 chifi companies do do R&D for some of their drivers, but you are right that they had no solid grasp on what makes a good product.
It's a prime case of engineering knowledge not being used as a tool, but rather as an end. Engineering complexity and novelty does not equal a good product. Thankfully most companies seem to get the gist of what to optimize now. Hell even NiceHCK released a good looking IEM.
>>105920352
No that's greymousetaxi (look up his HF account), or the original ratzo. Not even sure if he's been posting as of late.

>>105920325
Damn... thats harsh to our chinese bros, I mean most of the hentai models I use to goon where made by chinese so I respect them for that

>>105920384
What iem did original ratzo mod? He didnt review it in headfi

>>105920315
I have sm4 which allegedly has pretty good techs and it is not much batter than q1pro (like in its default state it is better simply because it doesn't have as much 4k+ energy and much stronger bass but with EQ both are similarly fine)

>>105920443
God I can't remember, maybe something like the Trio or Polaris? Or maybe that's too recent, can't figure it out with all of these KZ models.

>>105920384
>The top 3-5 chifi companies do do R&D for some of their drivers
This is a red herring. You can't really fuck up an IEM driver since they all move so little, they're all achieving the same thing in different ways. The innovation is in everything around the driver and chinks left everyone in the dust here. Non-chink companies can't even figure out cables lmao.

>>105920387
well it's not like I'm diminishing their achievements. they did bring us very cheap and very good IEMs basically destroying all the western retards who by the way weren't much better with r&d or actual scientific research. Nobody did anything outside of harman and nobody even used harman research for anything IEM related cause headphones makers were fine with selling overpriced garbage to retarded audiophiles who didn't know better

of fucking course the fat fucking moron still posts here dumbass bitch. he hijacked the last OP. stupid fucking fatfinger onions bitch. raise your children instead of shitposting on 4chan, playing gaypex, and shilling $5 e-waste. worthless fucking retard

>>105920334
and you're a fucking stupid poser. shut the fuck up dumbass and post any proof of what you just claimed. you don't have shit larping faggot

>>105920608
calm yourself. nobody has to do a fucking thing for you when you're acting like this. grow up.

aaaand there it is. the larping faggot exposed.

>>105920608

>>105920608
>>105920630
Why is it always us that have give proof, why don't you post a pic of your IEMs?

>>105920655
Jim in shambles.

I like my wyverns black remaster. Their treble is very relaxed but also very smooth... It's nice. Obviously I equalize it the fuck up. And soundstage is surprisingly wide.

>>105920655
It can't be...

>>105920655
wow a grand total of two (2) iems. sorry maybe you cropped the image wrong, i don't see the other 398 of your utter made up bullshit

>>105920680
Are you retarded? Where are your IEMs?

>>105920680
>thirdworldzo has no concept of audio stores and canjams
Come on even russia has them, what shithole are you in?

>>105920680
Cool, you clearly can't read. Now show your IEMs, just one is fine as long as it's timestamped.
Or let me guess, you don't actually own any.

>>105920691
dance for me, bitch. post the proof, little bitch boi. don't deflect onto me. i'm not claiming i
>tested >400 iems at length
like a dumbass larping bitch.
then you post TWO iems ahahahahahahaha
detached from the cables no less like a fucking moron. bet you're in the group of sub-IQlets who think "waaahh 2pins don't fit origin" because you fucked up the sockets yourself like a moron

>thirdworld shitter using ai to make oddly specific seafag pics
>doesn't own any iems
>can't read
>not aware of audio meets and shows
>idolizes reviews and opinions
>doesn't understand why taking off cables is easier for taking pics
im starting to see a pattern

>>105920707
watch he'll deflect again
he doesn't have a collection and probably borrowed origins from someone else because he's too poor to afford them

I think years of audio retardation has made us unable to identify obvious bait because frankly, everything audio related is bait.

>>105920727
no actually, years of one fat sausage-fingered failure of a parent posting here has lowered the level of discussion and post quality to smithereens.

Still waiting for that photo

sheetzo, FORCE impressions when?

>>105916315
AIMP

>>105919981
Very unfortunate to be you
sucks not being an alchemist、 Lèmao
Maybe be better? Be an alchemist、 Lèmao

https://open.spotify.com/track/7tipvygJJYMupkZLNarciM?si=OKTpuEvxT5ikPGmzK6rUkg

Tanchjim One arrived today, and I can honestly say they're one of the worst pairs I've ever bought that cost more than $10 dollarydoos
Mids and vocals are muddy as fuck, and their app isn't even on the play store, you have to download the APK from their site and hope it isn't as pozzed as the hardware.
Cable is complete shit, unless you enjoy un-twisting it every time you put them in, or move your head more than an inch
I don't browse this general much, is Tanchjim just shilling in here around the clock? I've never had such a bad recommendation from /iemg/.

>>105922743
look at a FR graph.
not what you wanted? your fault.

you miserable fucks don't know real music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ThO76peOw0&ab_channel=FeelLikeADisneyKidAgainHD
watch you niggas cry

>>105922785
I have a pair of headphones with very similar FR that sound much, much better

>>105922785
maybe the perceived techs disappointed him, since the graphs don't show that shit

>>105922798
>very similar FR that sound much, much better
they wouldn't happen to cost more would they?

>>105922743
push them further in

>>105922743
>I don't browse this general much, is Tanchjim just shilling in here around the clock?
yes
it's not like their pos are bad tho but they aren't really better than anything else

>>105915721
>the fox nigger deleted the posts again

>>105909496
Nah this russian is fr a janny, he will leavi his own foxslop while deleting mine.

Slava ukraini! Kill yourself foxrus! Do not buy EPZ

>>105923109
not buying EPZ cause some russian dude is using it is utterly retarded
just how dumb are you?
There are tons of squigs and positive reviews online

>>105923119
Kill yourself EPZ shill, slava Tanchjim

>>105923123
your brain is broken lol
I'm not even telling anybody to buy epz over tanchjim

>>105923148
I am

>>105923097
kek why is he so buttmad all the time its insane to live life like this

>>105923180
If hes gonna delete friendly banter then there wont be friendly banter at all.

>>105922787
We only listen to real music
https://youtu.be/NKDsoaIhn2E

what are the prettiest IEMs?

>>105923265
not some orange trash with an ugly ass furry on it thats for sure

>>105923265

gottem before he could samefag, owned

>foxpisspos

>>105923266
I agree
>>105923267
fuck off, this genuinely looks bad

It has...arrived.

AHAHAHA

MY FELLOW ALCHEMISTS、WHAT'S ARE GOOD IEMS I SHOULD TRY FOR NEW CONTRACT.

CAN BE BUDGET、KILO BUCK OR TOTL.
DOESN'T MATTER、 NEED NEW CONTRACT ASAP ASAP OwO

we should put troonzo and foxbum in a ring and have them fight to the death, that would be funny

>>105923308
let us know if the polarity is inverted

>>105923316
what the fuck

>>105923267
Did you delete my pics because like the fox, you also must prostitute yourself for iems?

>>105923265
I like ziigaat designs
they look cool

>>105923308
oh no

>>105923320
>to the death
Who's going to endlessly seethe when I post fox then?

>>105923393
Actually we seethe when you delete posts about foxes

>>105923322
Negative.
They're great.

huge shipment of arms to ukraine. hope your vatnik zigger roach family is safe rusbum

>>105923446
Slava.

>>105923316
Truthear Pure. Endgame.

>>105922719
sadly, prestige ltd pulled a KZ
https://youtu.be/UZUaJv3gM08?feature=shared&t=361

>>105923308
Mixed-race gay shartman pos, avoid.

>>105924301
Turn your monitor on Rajeet.

>>105923308
Post impressions even if most seethe ITT

>>105923316
Troonime niggas and EQ niggas were a mistake. And most of them are on the same side. One has to imagine them like pic related when they tell you how smart they are doing for EQ'ing their 20$ iem "to kilobuck"

>>105918635
same - waited month+ for it already

>>105925083
there's no point to EQ to kilobucks cause they sound like shit

>>105925207
stfu and eq to STORM. It's endgame. The 7.5k dip is the HRTF soundstage dip

Eqlets still have PTSD from the "EQ CRA to Variations" era when nobody's been doing that for years.

>>105926259
>STORM
obsoleted by $500 Top Pro
>7.5k dip is the HRTF soundstage dip
no company ever markets and no reviewer ever reports any portion of fr affecting soundstage because that's not how it works.
if it was, you're talking about industry oversight that shouldn't exist when the market already has the majority
fixated on the romantic aspects of tuning. the entire industry would exploit entirely and bank on things like reproduction
of already well-mixed audio, how tuning deviates from this, etc.
>>105926288

>>105926259
can't eq technical performance

>>105926562
>obsoleted by $500 Top Pro
LOL that's like saying a ferrari has been obsoleted by a fiat panda

>>105926639
>remove treble with EQ
>techs are gone
debunked

>>105926288
You really didnt wish you mentioned that.

Now I have to remind everyone how relentlessly the fox schizo shilled his variations back when he wasnt so broke

>>105926691
>he thinks changing a couple decibels up or down is what will give him techs
Pathetic pagpag imbecile

Just a reminder, other than the foxzo none of the EQfags have posted pos or EQ.

>>105926822
just eq to the EQ Guidezo Target

anyone knows which iem is that?

>>105926923
SIMGOT EM2

>>105926684
>chatgpt analogy

>>105926691
fr targets partially offset an audio mix, but not completely because they can't remove already set mix decisions, just color them. no audio engineer uses eq to place something left right, center, far, back in the mix. ever.
>>105926714
kek

>>105926967
thank you

has anyone heard or has a track in their library that sounded harsh or fatiguing in a specific frequency rang,
and switching to a pos with a dip in that region actually made it listenable or even enjoyable without EQ?
what track(s) was it, and what pos fixed it for you? do you think it's just compensating or masking a problem?

>>105926969
>no audio engineer uses eq to place something left right, center, far, back in the mix. ever.
Different IEMs don't do that either. Why do you keep bringing it up.

>>105927027
>do you think it's just compensating or masking a problem?
Neither, it's creating a problem in every track except this one.

>>105927050
some pos blob everything inside your head, some give more or less width, depth and layering of instruments better or less than others.
different pos absolutely do that. imaging and staging vary wildly between sets and it's amazing you're pretending otherwise. it's much
less about eq and more about what the hardware can accurately revolve and reproduce when it comes to a good mix compared to poorly mixed
audio, which should be easy to discern from one another. *should*

>>105927133
It's 100% about EQ since directional ques are tonality based. That's literally how pinna works.

>>105927120
>creating a problem in every track except this one.
can you name a target that doesn't? also,
every pos that doesn’t perfectly reproduce a hypothetical ideal curve is defective?

>>105927193
Targets are a cope. Use your ears.

>>105927165
>100% about EQ
ok so, by that flawed logic, every IEM with the same FR would stage identically, yet
we all know they don’t. more is at play than just fr or wildly varied pinna response
you can eq two completely different pos to the same fr and still get wildly different imaging and layering.
if it’s 100% EQ, explain why that happens. I’ll wait

>>105927248
Explain why the same IEM sounds different when you can and when you can't see it. Hint: it's not the driver.

What are the best IEMs I can get for around £150 ($200)? I like a bit of bass, but not too much where everything sounds muddy.

>increase the volume: shit sounds closer
>decrease the volume: shit sounds further away
Manufacturers HATE this simple trick.

At the center of almost every single debate here is the question of whether or not human senses are reliable.
If I find X pos has a wider soundstage than Y pos, while the majority thinks the opposite, who should I trust?
The answer is that you shouldn't trust anyone. Or more precisely, you shouldn't trust subjective impressions, especially ones that are based on something as subjective and individual as localization.

>>105927264
epz g10

>>105916339
>>105916902
>>105916991
>>105922525
ive tried all of those for a little and found issues with each one, aside from some being paid.
ive also found out that the performance issue i was having with foobar could be down to me using a 100$ phone as my cars sound system. throwing money at the problem and getting a better phone would fix more than one problem, so i will go that route instead.

>>105927282
>the question of whether or not human senses are reliable.
It's not a question. It's 100% proven that they are not reliable.

>>105927294
Maybe for you, I have golden ears.

>>105927294
I know that nuance is frowned upon here, but even then I do agree with just saying this rather than having to include a degree of nuance and constantly having to point to the dozens of papers showing that humans are not as reliable as most think, especially for audio.

>>105927264
look at the shopping rentry. supermix4 or p50.

Did I just fry my iem
>plug my iem into my monitor
>now keeps screeching

>>105927264
wait for crinear daybreak, it'll break the market, it's like p50 without the flaws

>>105927211
they get us in the ballpark of what we'd like to comfortably hear. there's not one goddamn
mixing or recording engineer in the world that takes FR of any particular speaker set into consideration with their entire mix.
they only need to know if the audio they're working on will sound good on your car speakers, headphones, tv speakers, etc. they're
not thinking of your pos when placing sounds spacially. that information is already in the mix and your gears just needs to reproduce it,
rather smearing the mix.
soundstage and imaging are MIX dependant. a person placed those sounds there with a mixer using panning.
eq is in the mastering stage and has fuck all to do with where sounds are placed.
again, EQ IS IN THE MASTERING, NOT MIXING STAGE. MIXING=PLACING SOUNDS IN THE MIX, MASTERING=COLORING THE SOUNDS (FR)
SO DIFFERENT TRANSIENTS DON'T COMPETE FOR THEIR SPOT ON THE FR. thanks.

>>105927282
>The answer is that you shouldn't trust anyone.
You shouldn't even trust yourself. We've all seen optical illusions but hearing is somehow supposed to be better? Here's a quick example at 1:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7eKSJntrNY&t=102s
The exact same audio will sound different the first and the second time.

>>105924293
>kilobuck with severe unit variations
kek

>>105927348
why plug it into monitor?

>>105927286
what trouble are you having with musicolet?

>>105927355
IEMs can only change the FR. If different IEMs perform differently in what you think is mixing then it's not mixing, simple as.

>>105927348
topkek

>>105927348
justt unplug it bro

>>105927348
scream into it to neutralize the bad vibrations

>>105927378
I mean it technically fits (has some sort of audio port), never expected that reaction.

>>105927401
don't misrepresent me as you're wrong entirely. some pos smear instruments together, while others are better at keeping instruments in the mix as reported by literally everybody. you still need to explain why two different pos with identical or nearly identical FR can present a mix with totally different layering and separation, etc. don't know why some of you can't accept this, but I just stated this and it still is never addressed.
fr is not resolution or technical performance. you can't eq techs when a $5pos with $2K pos tuning falls apart in practice.

>use LPF to remove cymbals
Look mom, I'm mixing with EQ,
>use channel imbalance to spread out different instruments left and right
Look mom, I'm mixing with EQ
>use peak filters in midbass to change IEM speed
CCP hitmen are approaching my location.

>>105927476
define techs and show why $2k pos perform better
without any of this i can say that the $5 pos has better techs without any counter

>>105927476
>you still need to explain why two different pos with identical or nearly identical FR
Doesn't exist, next question.
>but graph
Read the EQ guide.

>>105927476
Nigga, people hear different layering and separation from different CABLES. Swallow your pride and get your hearing checked.

cables are the key to techs...wtf

Any good iems for hd580 enjoyer?
My old moondrops SSP finally gave way, I briefly checked the graphs but did not find anything simillar, monitor tuned iems fell out of fashion apparently.

>>105927550
Almost everything you know about "monitor tuned" and acoustics is wrong.
The closest you'll get to similar timbre on the 580 is by getting something that adheres to the new meta aka JM-1. Get the P50 or Hexa since you like overly bright dogshit.

>>105927499
EQ guide is baloney
>b-b-but what about it in particular is wro-
everything

Point to a singular thing that is wrong. You can't.
Now chop chop baker boy, we don't have all day.

>>105927590
driver quality exist, you can't EQ it, FR isn't everything, burn-in exists, "brain burn-in" does not

>>105927597
>>105927597
>>105927597

>>105927499
>Doesn't exist
the market would look completely different if that were true, you ignoramus
>>105927543
it's the cables now? lol

>>105927600
brain burn in 100000% exists. Everything you said is the opposite of reality you absolute retardedly clown.
>inb4 bait

>>105920239
Techs are not a thing in IEMs, because of distance to your eardrum. “Soundstage” (which doesn’t truly exist for iems), imaging, etc. are results of the FR. You could make a case that techs exist in headphones, but that’s another discussion. For IEMs, FR really is everything. However, I still dont EQ IEMs.

One reason I don’t EQ IEMs is that peaks can be difficult and annoying to properly eq out, especially since fit will never be the same any two times you wear a set. Theoretically, a perfectly flat FR that sounds the exact same every time is ideal for EQ. Eventually, even some cheap DSP iems will have mics next to the driver and will adjust themselves automatically. Then this hobby might actually be dead

But honestly the main reason I don’t EQ iems is that they aren’t very expensive, and it’s fun to buy different sets. It’s a part of the hobby for me to accept how they sound and spend time with each one, learning to appreciate their flavor, rather than obsessively chase my “perfect” FR (which changes for every song and even for different parts of the same song)

Where's the best place for downloading/torrenting FLACs?