What are your favourite Google products? I love my Pixel!

>>105915156 (OP)
>try to degoogle and get a secured OS
>look up what phones work with graphene
>google phones
It's impossible to get away from them, huh?

>>105915187
did you know that android is also made by google

>>105915156 (OP)
buy an ad

>>105915187
it's hilarious to hear the rationalizations too
>no, you don't understand, if you don't want to be the product you must give them hundreds of dollars

>>105915708
Buy a second-hand one in near-new condition, problem solved.

>>105915156 (OP)
i love giving my money to google to... own google? someone needs to 'TOSS this, 'toss it now toss it fucking toss it

>>105915156 (OP)
pixel users have been brainwashed by disingenuous and/or incompetent developers, and by Google itself.

Pixels are the least secure devices precisely because hardware there is controlled by Google, unlike with other OEMs, who get binaries only from chip manufacturers. At least, one can uninstall Gapps, but you can't uninstall software supporting CPUs/GPUs and Titan. That software is neither dependent nor even visible to Android, which makes it a perfect repository for tools that destroy privacy and security.

Degoogle by buying a $1000+ Google device. You can't make this stuff up.

GrapheneOS cannot be fully trusted because it runs on Google's proprietary hardware stack, which remains a critical vulnerability. While GrapheneOS markets itself as a privacy-focused alternative, its security is undermined by the fact that it operates on devices like Google's Pixel smartphones—hardware designed and controlled entirely by Google. Unlike other OEMs, Google does not merely integrate off-the-shelf components; it designs its own processors (e.g., Tensor chips) and develops the closed-source firmware and software that power them. Other manufacturers receive binary blobs from chipmakers, which they cannot modify, but Google retains unilateral authority to embed hidden functionalities or surveillance mechanisms directly into the hardware-software ecosystem.

This means Google could inject malicious code into the processor’s firmware—code that operates independently of Android (and thus independently of GrapheneOS itself). Such malware would run at the hardware level, bypassing the operating system entirely and evading detection. If Google exploits this capability in its proprietary GApps, the same logic applies to the foundational software controlling its processors. Since GrapheneOS cannot audit or modify these closed-source components, users are left exposed to potential backdoors.

If you trust GrapheneOS on Pixel devices, you must also trust Google’s closed-source hardware stack—the very same infrastructure that could enable pervasive surveillance. In that case, there is no meaningful distinction between GrapheneOS and stock Android; both rely on Google’s opaque technology. Conversely, if you reject GApps and Google’s data harvesting, you cannot reconcile that distrust with reliance on Google’s hardware. To truly deGoogle, you must abandon devices where the manufacturer controls the silicon itself.

Has anyone noticed, that you can't find ANY critical videos on GrapheneOS on Youtube? Type in something like "criticism of GrapheneOS". You will get no results.

The problems and risks of GrapheneOS are based on FACTS. Yet, nobody is talking about these severe flaws. Or rather, it seems this information is being intentionally surpressed.

>>105918163
Not perfect but its the best we got unless you have a dumb phone

>>105915187
Yes, sir, mmhmm.
I remember an old ASUS mobo had a Google EULA in the last page of the manual. Like, wtf.
We are literally owned by these corporations and there's nothing we can do to escape them.
Might as well just use their shit and block ads so they get nothing in return. That's what I do.
>>105915156 (OP)
Meeh I think YouTube and Maps are the only two things I can't replace from jewgle. Also Android I suppose since I despise Apple with a passion.

>>105918163
>have freewill and the capability to make a video
>instead criticize lack of content that you're capable of making
Be the change you want to see

>>105918163
there's plenty of criticism going around in their community. other8026 is censoring everything.

>>105918931
>Be the change you want to see

Google has an objecitve reason to put Graphene OS in a good light. Why? Because they want to sell their Pixels. Since Youtube is controlled by Google, their algorithm is intentionally burying substantive criticism of Graphene OS, while pushing supreficial videos which praise it as "OMG THE MOST SECURE PHONE OS".

I am sure, there are probably some videos on Youtube which criticize GrapheneOS from a factual and technical standpoint. But these kind of videos are being surpressed.

Youtube is the place where the majority of people get their information, also on privacy matters. But in regard of privacy topics, Youtube is a corporate hellhole, where only corpo shills are trying to sell their magical privacy solutions.

What angers me about Graphene OS, that all these shills don't mention the negative sides of Graphene OS. These risks are severe and when you put Graphene into the grand scheme of things, this thing doesn't look that good. But the propagandists on Reddit, Youtube and here will only praise, praise, praise.

This is why I am so mad at the Graphene comnunity. They don't show the full picture.

>>105915156 (OP)
Anyone know what the fuck's up with all the Graphene posts? I get there being a couple of retards asshurt about but it but they are so common and repetitive it's suspicious. Why the fuck would anyone bot of waste their time on this shit.

>>105916271
It depends on your threat model. If you simply want to be untrackable to and secure from local authorities, the pixel is typically your best bet. This is why it's used so much by druggies.
If you want to be safe from google and the three letter agencies, get a libreboot thinkpad with tails and use it as little as possible, desu.

>>105919869
I think more and more people are waking up and realize, that Glowphene is a LIE.

>>105919781
>Youtube is the place where the majority of people get their information,
"people"

>>105915156 (OP)
Well I must say I rather love Google Cache it's useful for- OH WAIT THATS RIGHT ITS FUCKING DEAD FUCKS SAKE GOOGLE WHY YOU BASTARDS

>>105915156 (OP)
>pixel
>gmail
>maps
>search
>keep
>calendar
>drive
>chromium (not chrome)
I like google products / services. I would pay a subscription for a 'private' experience on all of the above ones if they offered it

>>105915708
makes sense they would since they're the biggest Android contributor. plus they got the resources to build a new security chip and also pay monkeys to code the right shit for it.
who else gonna make that? got any lithography machine in your garage?

BTW this guy made a huge advertisement video for Google Pixels. But in our era of guerilla marketing, he camouflaged his Pixel advertisement as a "pro privacy" video.

IF YOU SHILL GRAPHENE OS, YOU ARE SHILLING GOOGLE PIXEL.

IF YOU SHILL GRAPHENE, YOU ARE THE TOOL OF THE CORPOS.

>>105920170
what's a non-corpo phone then?

>nice clock ahmed