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>CASEmATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 217, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500
>CPUBudget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 9600X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARDASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation
>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB / 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB
>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
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>GPUBudget: Used GPU between $100-$250
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti or non ti
>PSUPSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
>MONITORhttps://pcmonitors.info/recommendations/
>OSActivate Windows @
>>105870415 >CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super rumors: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB
Zen 6 rumored to reach 7ghz or higher clocks
>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/
Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.
>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies
For tier-list enjoyers:
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>Storage Reviews
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https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/
fake brand war thread
lmao
the fact is that people buy GeForce because they want the best real world performance
TROONS buy Radeon because they are making some faggot troon political statement in their purchase, and are left with an inferior product as a result
>>105924894what are u talking about? i see nvidia gpu in OP. why do u guys have to have these drama wars i came here for help with my new pc build but i guess ill go somewhere else now.
OP is a faggot, put the intel & nvidia recomendations back
Are these a meme? I travel for work so laptops are kind of my modus operandi.
>>105924902>>105924827 (OP)Where is 5070 & 5070 Ti? Where is Intel 13 & 14th gen which are very cheap and competetive nowadays? Where is Intel Arc b580 for budget segment? Where is 5060 for budget segment?
Fuck off.
>>105924902it's a troon upset with how badly the 5090 DECIMATES AMD at 4k
>>105924901
OP is a retard that recommends people to buy a used 3090, a card with a vulnerable power delivery setup.
He doesn't have people's best interests in mind.
>>105924924the real news is that nvidia's lowest volume and priciest consumer gpu outsold amd's economy budget gpu
>>105924908If this was real thread I would answer.
>>105924936gamers want GeForce real world performance, not Radeon garbage gimmicks and garbage performance
Clean, no flame war instigating thread.
I suggest that the OP of this thread rename his future thread as /amdpcbg/, as that is the main intent of his threads.
>>105924942>>105924942>>105924942
>>105924908Answered in real thread
>>105924973
>>105924954*fine print: only reproducible in HUB's labs and not anywhere else on earth
>>105924996https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeon-RX-9070-XT-Grafikkarte-281023/Tests/vs-RTX-5070-Ti-Treiber-Update-Benchmark-Test-1474379/
these germans discovered it first and inspired HUB to make his video in the first place.
What is the most cost effective price to perfomance cpu and gpu combo for max settings 1440p gaming?
What is the most cost effective price to perfomance cpu and gpu combo for max settings 3600p gaming?
>>105925055Answered in real thread >105925067
>>1059250559070 XT and 9600x
>>105925072retard
>real thread
more like derail thread
Definitely not a shameless bump post!!
Unbiased unbranded facts and data please, im here for physics, not divit et conquera
>>105924932Its just paranoia
IDK what's with /pcbg/'s flip flopping between trust everything and don't trust everything
>>105925487>Its just paranoiaIt's a flaw, that's why the 3090 Ti has a revised board design that is closer to the 4090's.
You can even install a 4090 GPU and run it in a 3090 Ti PCB after BIOS modifications.
>>105925512If it was that bad of a flaw then every PCB would have gotten revised after the initial batches.
Not gonna deny its probably suboptimal but clearly it wasn't that bad of a problem for AIBs not to take very drastic action
>>105925547>If it was that bad of a flaw then every PCB would have gotten revisedThat would cost more money because it's as simple as just swapping the physical board.
They would've had to switch to costlier voltage controllers for all video cards that power the GA102 chip.
The 3090, 3080/Ti use two cheaper voltage controllers.
That's why the power phases a split into the NVVDD (GPU core) and MSVDD (SoC), and the VRMs for the NVVDD are the ones that usually die from enduring too many transient spikes.
The 3090 Ti is safer because it doesn't use this cost-cut design.
3090, 3080/Ti are all time-bombs, AIBs have exhausted their RMA stock of these cards.
>>105925603>because it's as simplebecause it's not as simple
>>105925547>clearly it wasn't that bad of a problem for AIBs not to take very drastic actionAIBs aren't allowed to make drastic changes to the video card's power delivery design.
All they can do is add more phases (band-aid) for the NVVDD, but even overbuilt Strix, AORUS, and Suprim 3090s have been dying.
There's a reason why NVIDIA ditched that split power phase configuration for the 3090Ti.
>>105924943deboonked years ago, steves cpu is too slow
they should both hover over 300fps
>>105924962cs2 engine is extremely jank seeing as how you can raise 0.1% substantially capping the fps lower
would take this with a grain of salt/system dependent/settings dependent
very bad narrative being pushed here
people who complain about certain cases having ""bad"" cable management are just broadcasting their skill issue.
>>105924954also deboonked by a minimum of 2 independent tech yt'ers to this date and counting
now you are 3/3 pictures in total
>>105923439thanks, I'm taking it to the white house!
>>105925665>AIBs aren't allowed to make drastic changes to the video card's power delivery design.Then what the fuck is their purpose if they can't design better PCBs?
You mean to tell me its impossible on the AIBs end to have fixed the 3090s?
Why are people patronizing these AIBs every so harder by giving them more money every gen if they are so constrained?
None if you foils make sense anymore.
>>105926047The 3090 chip was programmed to work with a split power delivery design, which has proven to be unreliable.
AIBs don't have the license or the resources to change that. Only NVIDIA can do this.
AIBs can only add more/better power phases to that flawed power design, use better TIMs, and/or improve the cooling & operating noise.
Is it normal that an LED on a motherboard flashes for split second when turning the PSU on, but nothing else happens? I don't have RAM and CPU yet, so I only tested by connecting the ATX power connector. Even without that I'd expect the rest of the LEDs to stay on or something. Motherboard is Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite.
between rx 9060 xt and rx 6800 non xt which one I should choose ? Looking at benchmark videos the performance is almost same and 6800 is 70 € cheaper
No point bumping a duplicate, brand war thread
>>105932075what the fuck is that
>hardware sperg out general even though its the software that keeps getting more bloat and worse performing
I updated my Nvidia drivers, and the app went black. I can't close it. Will I brick my GPU if I restart?
I should probably update the BIOS on my new pc right?
Apropos nothing I was checking out the latest review on the SETA H2 since it's hard to find a good pc case these days with real storage support worth a damn only to discover Silverstone wants to ask over $200 for it and not include a single fan OoB with the predictable results you see in the attached pic. Needless to say I am very disappointed that my aging Define R4 may never be able to be retired nor will Fractal update the series lineup (and fuck rack mount chassis).
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/silverstone-seta-h2/10.html
>>105932082Captcha breaker
Useless general, get 4060,5060 16gb versionnand deal with it
>>105933155Buy some fans, dummy.
>Got a 9950X3D in May with 2x48 6000 ram
>CPU or ram dies, board emits a yellow light indicating a DRAM problem (its not training)
>Give the computer to a store to see if they can pin point the issue
>The guy just changes ram for others and thats it
>Doesn't charge me though
>RMA the board
>ffs 1 week. Its NOT the board
Well Im RMAing the cpu this time, Idk if to buy an actual compatible ram for the board or just run it at 5600 with less voltage.
Guess the anon that told me that 2x48 6000 at 1.4V is a bit too much, had a lot of reason.
>>105933523>Give the computer to a store to see if they can pin point the issue>The guy just changes ram for others and thats it>Doesn't charge me thoughThat implies it wasn't the same store you bought it from. Sounds like someone just did a charity.
>>105933523I had the same issue and it turned out to the PSU shitting itself and not supplying the board with enough power. Change out the PSU before RMAing I recommend. That saved me from having to wait for the RMA.
Do any of you guys have any experience in getting partial discounts talking to customer support jeets?
They sent me the regular pny 5070ti instead of the ayrgb version I ordered. I got it at the 750 dollar msrp but the listing shows the higher end model
>>105933561are you sure the receipt says "RGB MODEL"
>>105933545Yeah sorry for my shitty explanation. I bought the parts online
>>105933551What? its a fucking 1200w corsair platinum. I guess I could test with a shitty 750w 80bronze psu first. But isn't that super weird?
>>105933576PSUs can fail, but swapping out from my 1200w thermaltake to a corsair 1000w rmx solved my yellow dram issues on boot completely after I tried new kits. I thought my CPU was fried, I even swapped the motherboard twice and it still wouldn't boot. Doesn't hurt to try another PSU to see if that's the problem first.
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>>105933568It doesn't explicitly say RGB MODEL but the box of the argb model is in the listing along with the other pictures
>>105933592the images can be incorrect on the site, you might want screenshots of them + the order page
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>>105933587Welp, tested with a 750W psu with just one cpu 8pin and I still got the same yellow DRAM led
>>105933815Exact same thing happened to me and I had to take it to a store too. They said it was mainly due to an internal USB hub I carried over from my old system not being compatible due to wiring pinouts, but you don't have one. Did you check the case grounding? The store also said that was a common culprit.
>20 years ago new games used to run at 480p30 on top end hardware and people were happy
>now people expect them to run at 4k240 on budget cards or else they declare them badly optimized
what changed?
>>105934250Entitlement
Youtube letting poors know what they are missing out on.
Monitors more prominently market their specs so poors are reminded they cannot utilize it properly.
Wide variety of games so some indie pixelshit can run at 4k120, which is just not accessible to the poor in a AAA.
having no issues after building a pc is nice and all, but nothing beats the satisfaction and relief of finally solving a problem and witnessing your pc finally work correctly
>>105934250Budget card 20 years ago: $100
Budget card now: $600 (out of stock)
>>105934326>PoorsMost triple A slop games even with 5090 a 3000 dollar plus gpu won't run at anywhere near 120 with max settings and 4K DLAA. You have to use upscaling. No one is entitled the games just suck and rely on upscaling from 720p to get good fps now.
>>105934430every card has been in stock for 3 months now
>>105934652turns out a lot of people with internet access cant afford gpus that cost >250€
>>105934430>Budget card now: $600 (*inflation)The 5050 is a $250 card. Even the 5070 is one of those few cards that like to stay at MSRP, and that is not "budget".
>but eight gig-User error settings. AAA games today are even nice enough to not have overmuch variance between Low and High settings, despite the former allowing such cards to run them flawlessly. Then there's neural textures on the way to ALLOW poors to start playing at high settings for a modest framerate cost.
1080p chads, how do we stop winning?
>>105934879these days you'd really want a console thing that costs very little, the games get optimized for that set of hardware PLUS you can install windows on it and use it as a regular pc for 4chan and porn
it'd solve a lot of problems if you just had a lot of devs optimizing for 1 set of linux/windows pc hardware
>>105935262I would get PSU that is at least 80+ Gold and RAM that comes in 16x2 kit, not just two planks of 16gb.
in terms of energy efficiency is it better to add an additional fan if it means the entire computer would run much cooler?
pic rel, i realize it's an inoptimal setup due to old case. and i cannot seem to move the cables on the floor away from the bottom fan.
is there any point of having a fan pointing at the HDD's? it's not like they run hot. i was thinking about moving it to the top to output air.
>>105935262get a 2 x 16gb bundle
case and aio are pretty cringe, there has to be better options available
Any particular brand I should choose for my 5060Ti 16GB card? I was told the Gainward Python III with three fans was good, but in the same price segment, maybe even slightly cheaper, I have a Gigabyte card. (Palit, Zotac, Asus too)
Really no clue if there's any brands to stay away from.
>>105935345anon do you even know what energy efficiency means or how cpus work
What do you have to say about RTX 5060 Ti 8GB for 1080p gaming?
The jump in price to RTX 5070 12GB is +32% and to RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is +22%
>>105935452If 5060ti 16gb isn't 100 bucks more than 5060 then it's worth. In case of 5070 it's better wait for drop. 5070ti SUPPOSEDLY is faulty af.
>5700x3ds are holding their msrp and will probably only go up as supply decreases
i can FEEL my 3700x bottlenecking my 9070
>>105935510>If 5060ti 16gb isn't 100 bucks more than 5060It sadly is.
>>105935521Better luck next year, forget about christmas when parents n wife boyfriends will mass buy computers as gifts.
>>105935512it's cheaper to go am5 + 7600x at this point
>>105935452It's e-waste. Maybe it'll be enough for whatever you play for a while, but the resale value will be terrible.
I'm assuming you won't be doing much AI shit if any, so why not consider a 9060XT?
Is 2x32GB worth it for future proofing? For gaming, I don't really do AI shit
>>105935546>new ram kit + mobo>for a CPU that's worse at the games and tasks I want to doAnon...I...
>>105935551>I'm assuming you won't be doing much AI shitI am, just text though.
>9060XTUnavailable here.
>>105935564>for gamingNah, 32 is more than enough. By the time you might need 64 you'll have upgraded to a new platform at least twice.
>>105935575well Im not buying a 250€ 5700x3d
I have a lot of faith that 2026 will be OUR year povertygamingbros. The bubble has to burst some day.
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>>105935587knew i shoulda pulled the trigger on this
>>105935583>I am, just text though.With 8gb? Sounds miserable, if not impossible. Didn't LLMs actually need even more vram than SD? Unless you mean as a service and not local, making this entirely irrelevant.
>Unavailable hereStill can't recommend the 5060ti/8 at all. If you don't want to shell out for the 16gb model (it's not exactly great anyway), check your local used market.
>>105935620I'm doing it right now with 6gb, locally. You can choose more compact model by sacrificing accuracy.
>local used marketIt's been like 2 months after 50xx appeared here, the used offers are just 5% under retail price.
>>105935631Well then you'd probably want more vram for that anyway, no? Depending on how much you do it.
>It's been like 2 months after 50xx appeared hereI mean for older cards
>>105924943>mwiiWhat a trooper. insane you'd play that over iii.
>>105935659I do want more vram but not at that price.
>older cardsThere are no older used NVIDIA cards here with 12-16gb of RAM, that are cheaper than new 5060 Ti 16gb, unless you go necro into 3090, which would need another $100 for new PSU that I'm not buying for it.
I guess my question is 8GB of ram really limiting in 1080p 60hz gaming? It doesn't look like I have much choice if I want to upgrade soon, and keep using CUDA LLM.
>>105935698You might need to lower settings in some cases, but it should be fine for now. It's just that you might as well get a 5060 if you're looking for the bare minimum. It's also e-waste but to a less ridiculous extent, and you'll waste less money.
>>105935666would you redo benchmarks samianually for 20gpus for every codslop that comes out
Got absolute minimum, waiting for 2027
seems like my 9800x3d taps out at -17 all core. going higher either reduces the clocks or crashes out.
Newfag here, can comeone do comparison of nvidya and amd in terms of power. Like 5060 is equal to adm? Etc...
Does cinemabech score equal speed/power? For example, one cpu has 1000 score, the other 10000. Does that mean that cpu is ten times stronger/faster than the other?
>>105932723>aesthetics>Of black box under the desk
>>105936035if its a multicore benchmark it might mean cpu #1 has 1 core at 1000mhz, and cpu #2 has 10 cores at 1000mhz and if some app only used 1 core they would perform identically
single core bench tells you how fast 1 core is relative to other cpus and then it would mean 1 cpu is 10x faster than the other
>>105935914not a problem if your chip already has low factory voltages. mine does -20 stable in VT3 but its a garbage bin 112sp with very high stock voltages and temps
For the 9070 XT, would you rather 4K with more upscaling or 1440p with less upscaling?
>>105936570its 1440p gpu
for 4k youd want 5070 ti at minimum
>>1059365835070ti is a 1080p card with driver issues
>>105936656you upscale from 1080p using dlss transformer modelto 4k and it looks great
but most people cant afford that and they can play at 1440p
>>105936664Graphics options scale with internal resolution. So the 1080p card objectively looks worse than the 1440p card (9070xt). Every single DirectX and Vulkan graphics option is a resolution factor and lower pixel count = worse.
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>>105924827 (OP)any recommendations for small mATX cases that have filters for ALL intake fans and not a bunch of holes literally everywhere that let dust in?
looking to upgrade to a 9800x3d
which AIO should i pair with it?
>>105936705>which AIO should i pair with it?you don't need an AIO for a 9800X3D but if you insist on getting one you could just get a thermalright unit. They're cheap and reliable enough.
>>105936745Then why haven't you fallen for the ram cooling meme?
Two questions:
1) What am I missing out on by going with a 9600x vs a higher tier CPU? Will I regret it 5+ years in?
2) Are there any small desktop or otherwise flat cases that I could potentially strap under my desk (conveniently, obviously I could strap a tower under there but it would not be convenient)?
3) BONUS QUESTION (because I just thought of it): If I care most about latency and throughput, what CPU and such do I need? Does the motherboard version make a difference? I know I'd need fast RAM and one of the top tier m2 SSDs
>>105934879>*inflationAdjusting for inflation doesn't paint the whole picture as incomes, generally, have not kept up with inflation. So inflation adjusted people make less than they did in the past.
>>105936891Yeah most people are much poorer now in reality as far as I can tell.
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>5070ti is a 1080p card with driver issues
what kind of AMDjeet cope is this
I decide between GPU AIBs by aesthetics only
>>105937075this but my taste is shit so for radeons it sapphire nitro+ and for nvidia it's whatever fits my colorscheme or proart for 40xx
>>105935575I went from 3700x to 7700x....it's a BIG difference, even with a 6700xt. 3700x sucks for gayman.
>>105936977Keep pissing yourself and denying reality. Maybe if you grovel and cry enough Jensen will stop using AI and pajeet interns to code the drivers and bring back the real humans he moved over to the datacenter side of the buisness. Nvidia does not care about you or GeForce anymore, the drivers will remain shit until the AI bubble bursts.
>>105937113for Nvidia it MUST be the dragon
and for AMD it must be the wolf
that is all
>>105937246And shills in this thread still lie to this day that the nvidia driver overhead robbing cpu performance isn't true
So why did tech channels for like a decade and chance use retarded ass benchmarks like cinebench instead of gaming benchmarks/gameplay?
>>105924827 (OP)>Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SEIs this fine for a 9800X3D?
>>105937256only retards deny reality that nvidia sucks ass with driver issues
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>>105937246why do AMD sirs have to cherrypick while NVIDIAchads can post averages?
>>105937280>>105937246>>105937233be honest, how hard did the 4090 launch buckbreak you?
>>105937257because Intel was better at gaming then
On a scale of 1-10, how excited are we for RTX NTC?
Unfortunate that AMD doesn't have an alternative yet, their cards are 10-30% less efficient with vram usage making the 9070xt in practice an 11gb-14gb card.
i'll buy an intel card before i spend 1500$ on a card that performs only marginally better than a 600$ one
>>105937371the 5070ti smashes the 9070XT by like 50% in spiderman 2 in 4k because the 9070XT runs out of VRAM and the 5070ti doesn’t LOL
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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
>>105937280WoW I will never buy Nvidia again
>Benq Zowie 25" 600hz 1080p TN costs more than a 4k 240hz 32" PG32UCDMZ QDOLED
>>105937371Once that technology spreads it will unironically be parry or die for AMD. If they do not have an answer IMMEDIATELY they will risk fading into actual irrelevancy. Even Unboxed Steve is willing to admit the 5060 has strong performance only held back by its VRAM limitations. Should that ceiling be practically removed entirely for -5 FPS (more than paid back by not being memory limited), then the 5060 ends up being able to play every single AAA going forward while you have to pay a premium for a 9060 XT 16GB to compete, AND the textures will still look Better than Native™ on the former.
>>105937670It's a niche monitor for minmaxing CStards. It's marked up for the same reason ITX mobos are.
>>105937785too bad about the driver anomalies on RTX there's no fix for that
>>105937797zero driver issues on my 5090, Mayne you’re just making up sour grapes copes?
>>105937870Post your GPU-Z with today's date on Windows
>>105937371I just hope the 5070 ti super isn't at $1500 USD
I'm so tired of scalper prices
>>105938004I might not have his 5090 but I still have something to show, since I started this conversation. If even the 3rd world can afford a good card, that means those choosing to throw their lot in with AMD do so with no concern to price, performance nor future features.
>>105937789>AND it costs alot more than 480hz alternatives that are multiple hundreds cheaper>to make the motion clarity better than 480hz oleds it all hinges on running strobing on>the joke of it all is that CStards don't even run with strobing on because it does not benefit fixed gaze motion clarity and the pros dislike it anyway
>>105924827 (OP)WHY IS EVERYTHING SO GODDAMN EXPENSIVE???
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I FIND A DECENT NON-SILLICON WASTE GPU FOR 500 BUCKS???
>>105938114Miner farms auctions
Con: loud
Found some headphones that match my fans
>can buy a S95F 55" for 1850€ right NOW with discounts applied
>still 300€ more than it will be during November sales
>am too afraid to run a 55" as a monitor
>I will probably cuck out and run a 27"-32" monitor
>I will not get the best HDR
>but buying a tv I won't get usb-c and be able to run kvm from a laptop
>multiple reported bugs with gpus and running that tv
>samsung is known for horrid qc and the power supply dying and various other issues
I am sick of fomo'ing
I currently have 2 16gb sticks but I believe one is failing, am I forced to swap both or can I just buy one identical to the sticks I have?
>>105938164Nigger 16gb is 16gb, if it fits it glits
>>105938129I just wanna upgrade from my 3060 but fucking njudea stopped making 40 series card long before 50 series released so I can't find any deals for shit. I'm getting really sick of PCs as a whole fuck this shekel sucking nonsense
>>105938114https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vDZWGX/pny-argb-epic-x-rgb-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-12-gb-video-card-vcg507012tfxxpb1-o
Tied for first/maybe second best 5070 model btw
>>105938183>Upgrade from 30 seriesNigga just wait a year, i only upgraded after 11 years
>>105937371Why don't they demo it on a GPU that would actually benefit from it? Is this going to be another poorfag cope feature that gets rebranded as a Premium Exclusive Deluxe feature like upscaling?
>>105938164Just buy an identical one, this whole "you have to buy in kits" shtick is a giant meme, I'm running 4×16GB RAM where each stick was bought individually, and I've been doing this for years btw
>>105938200No choice for me but to wait anyways, but why next year? 50 Super series?
>>105938183Stop being poor and just buy a 5060ti or higher tier Nvidia card
>>105936698Is dust reaaaaaly going to get through those tiny ass holes?
>>105938004i booted my computer up just to shit in your mouth
>>105938192>Worse than 4070 SuperAt that price I'd add extra 50$ and get a used 4070 Ti Super(if I could find one)
>>105938249>500$>For a shitty GPU that only moderately better than 3060
>>105938342>Nearly 2x + rr and fg>moderately Stop being poor and buy a 5070/ti then
>>105938335>No PhysXDropped.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_WbA6ZyoG4
When the HUB video came out all the njudea shills worked overtime to slander Steve and call him a liar. Now we have more independent testing exonerating him. The only difference in this test here is the driver version on the same patch of windows and its a 10 fps increase in Indiana Jones PT, this game and Black Myth Wukong which also sees a similar improvement are probably the two worst performing RT games for RDNA 4. This shows the full pathracing performance has not been unlocked yet and the FSR Redstone update coming in a few months will give a significant increase. The difference in non pathtraced RT between 5070 ti and the 9070 XT is already practically a tie with games such as AC Shadows where the 9070 XT wins even. It's nice to see that AMD is working effectivelyto refine RDNA 4 and narrow the gap further.
>>105938342You're complaining about not being able to get a 40 series, while saying the 50 series isn't up to your standards. I think you might be a bit retarded.
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>>105938342the 5070 wins on average despite the lower CUDA core count
>>105938388>anything other than Nvidia>Physx
>>105938392NTA but 5070 is terribly overpriced. 5060 Ti 16Gb is merely $100 cheaper than 5070. 4070 Ti is faster than 5070. And Gigabyte saturated early launch market with their cum-dripping shit so hard that cards from other manufacturers skyrocketed in price just because they don't cum all over your PC when hot.
>>105938410Well I was making a joke, why did the faggots remove it? It was useful for some older games.
>>105938359>>105938392a regular 4070 shits all over it while being a little cheaper so yes it is dogshit, I simply want a GPU thats worth its value
>>105938458Card on the left is power limited or undervolted btw, even at stock I think literally every 5070ti is going to be over 2900mhz
>>105938483Well get in a time machine or settle for used and a bit older (2080ti/3080) if you care that much about value
>>1059384575070 is 40% faster than the 5060ti 16gb
>>105938335>>105938085Lmao "WHQL" fucking driver issues detected
>>105938483In my market there is nothing worth it's money between 2nd-hand 3060 Ti and new 5070. You simply can't buy anything in between, used or new.. Everything is so close in price to 5070 that it doesn't make sense to buy anything else. 4070 is unavailable, naturally.
>>105938502For only $100 difference but in my market it's more like $250 difference because of Gigabyte shit.
Skip the ti bullshit go 5070
I don't get how people are loyalists for amd vs nvidia.
I do wish the intel cards werent junk, they look really cool to me
Can some of you help regarding finding another ram to work with my HyperX HX430C15PB3/16? https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/HX430C15PB3_16.pdf
I don't care about the XMP profile I will not use that.
Is it only the timings, frequency and voltage that matters, or should I also match the memory brand (micron, samsung, hynix etc...) and the rankness too dual rank single rank
>>105938560>I don't get how people are loyalistsMe neither. I was simply buying what was cheaper and faster. I wish AMD didn't fall behind in optiscalers and frame generation. I know they're getting there as we speak, but those older released titles that I have missed playing because my PC was too shit, are never getting those technologies. So if I want to play even 2-3 years old games, I have no choice but to go with NVIDIA. I also want some light LLM capabilities. For NVIDIA it's 4 clicks away after installing CUDA drivers. I'm not sure it even works on AMD.
It's good that Intel launched their own line of GPU, but there's literally no stock even if I wanted to buy them.
>>105938457>why did x remove yIt's old and costs money to maintain and the reason why it only affects old games is because literally nobody uses it anymore.
What brand B850 is good to get for a 9800x3D?
What's /g/'s opinion on curved ultrawide monitors ?
>>105938652Giant meme
get a regular 1440p curved or flat 4k monitor
you're basically just throwing performance in the dumpster
>>105938714Why not curved 4K?
All monitors I've had so far were common flat 1080p so I don't have much reference here.
>>105938522What did he mean by this?
which one to get? any good or bad experiences with any of them?
>>105938770you could do a curved 4k one too. just stay away from ultrawide.
>>105938560It's just experience.
>first GPU was a GTX 550 ti>never really had an issue I can remember>get 560 ti>biggest issue was opengl errors in minecraft of all things, maybe a wonky DVI port but I got it as a hand me down>AMD r9 380>revolving door of problems, CTDs, inconsistent performance, driver crashes and every driver update was a new fun bag of suprises >1080 ti>most trouble free GPU, never once had to think about driver updates to fix some bug>4080 super>mostly the same as the 1080 tiI mean, excuse me if I go with something that I've had a decent experience with.
My sanity is more important than some self-agrandizing sense of rebellion because I bought from one slightly smaller megacorp
>inb4 amd is fixed now>inb4 tonga was just shit
>>105938652you get more pixels to work with like the LG 45" 5k2k oled one
guess you have to weigh the pros and cons
the bigger the screen the further away from your eyes the shit becomes
>>105938943>be me>only play MMOs and emulated games>x3d cpus are the best at these 2 things>they play extra nice with amd gpusSince GRAFFIX is a distant thought for me, the puupenfarten rtx or whatever means very little to me.
>>105936745North with window is indeed gay as fuck. At least the lighting is subtle and not "muh 65 million colors XDD".
>>105939149Mine looked worse, before it catched on fire
Need some advice. Been rocking the pic on the left for quite some time now and only recently noticed that fan 1 is not blowing anywhere close to the ammount of air either of the fans 2 are. So ive been thinking maybe changing up my fan setup to the pic on the right. Thinking about adding another intake fan 4 up top while also potentially turning the top fan 2 into an intake fan 3 and maybe adding another one to blow fan 5 to blow directly into the gpu.
Am I overthinking this? Will it really even do anything in the long run?
>>105939288try this noctua says its peak
>>105939332cute little fans go WRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Cover your top fans to prevent spils
>Samsung and SK Hynix Delay DDR4 Memory Phase-out Amidst Unexpected Demand
yeah no shit
DDR5 still has issues
>>105939395AM4 still extremely popular a lot of people are still throwing in a 5000X3D and upping their ram
>>105938778windows drivers dont work especially drivers stamped by microsoft
just picked up an old windows desktop
gonna be one of those retards who shoves a "sleeper build" in this thing
>5800X3D
>9070
>32 GB memory
>2x NVMe m.2 SSD's
>Win 10
I am extremely happy with my PC. I hope anons are happy with theirs too.
>>105939379peak temps rising to the sky maybe
>>105939288just install another intake fan up top and call it a day, no need to reinvent the wheel
Are usb optical drives about as performant nowadays? I was originally prioritizing a case with an internal bay for one but figured my use for it would be in bursts so maybe I should just get a better case and use an external drive.
>>105939332Wish I could get one of these for my regular pc. Just to say i have a threadripper in this shitbox
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>order something
>dumb company uses fedex
>6 days go by and the package doesn't move an inch
>my order gets lost in the mail/stolen
i'm so tired of fedex
Should i upgrade to 64GB RAM from 32 if i have 250+ Chrome tabs open 24/7?
>>105938648Gigabyte is best overall
>>105939517I stopped ordering things not delivered by our local postal service
>>105939456post numbers in mh wilds i use that game as the new crysis
How do I calculate how big of a power supply do I need?
>>105939456>>Win 10uh oh, it's so over, son.
>>105939682I'm not going to reinstall the benchmark. But the numbers were decent at 1440p.
>>105939517I hate it when they don't tell you who they use until after you order it
>>105939721i just want a stable 60 without memegen
>>105939695Office PC? 400-500W low quality is enough
Mid-gaming PC? 500-600W good quality is enough, depends on the GPU
Full retard - high end? As much as you can.
wanted to say thanks for the last thread, instead of 3080ti and 3090, I will go for 4070, there are good options too, thanks for the nudge in this direction
>>105939886Eh it's probably closer to the full retard territory. I just don't want to overspend since I'm using old (read cheap) high end stuff. I want to get a xeon e5 2697 v4 and vega 64
>>105939695visit pcpartpicker.com, you can build without registration right away, it counts wattage, sizes and load of other things you might be interested in
>>105939910>vega Nearing 3090 tier transient spikes. I'm sure it's better with newer power supplies but at the time you'd see it being too much for like 750w psus.
>>105939931According to this I should be fine with 600w?
>>105939980crap, no wonder they are going for 50-70 bucks over here
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The Germans (aryans) are buying amd, Hardware Unboxed didn't totally lie.
Fuck it, 5060 then. I'd rather have working pc.
>>105940001>no wonderThe blower cards being borderline unusable probably contributes, super tiny heatsink. You can get to 1080ti (probably higher at this point) performance with the water cooled cards though if you're using linux. The red devil and I think sapphire pulse (can't remember if that's the card) are also decent.
>>105940120I was planning on using linux but definitely no water cooling. This is supposed to be a budget build. I see a few 1080s, 5700 and xts around 90 bucks. Would any of these fuck me over with random power spikes
>>105940191>Would any of these fuck me over with random power spikesNah even the 2080ti and 1080ti weren't quite as housefirery. Would probably go RDNA1 over pascal, especially if you're using linux.
I bought a 9600x for $150 to go with a 5070, is it worth it to get a 7800x3d at $340 instead. I’ll probably not upgrade for 5 years and mostly just going to school as undergrad for another few years.
>had 1080p laptops for 15+ years at this point
>finally get a 1440p monitor, 27in, and a 1440p 16in laptop
>The monitor is litterally less crisp when playing games then my prior laptops, and the 1440p screen on the laptop itself is unusable for anything but games due to how tiny the menus and shit are
Do people typically suggest getting 24in monitors for 1440p then? I see almost nobody suggesting 24in monitors and people getting 27 or 32 in ones or bigger, which seems nuts to me based on this. Do I just have really high pixel density standards or something?
Also how do people handle high res laptop displays without tiny as fuck menus? Window's scaling seems terrible and applies itself to things it shouldn't. Why the fuck is scaling even still necessary, has Microsoft seriously never bothered to make dedicated menu and UI graphics made for 1440p and 4k displays?
>>105940260Thanks anon, I'll either go with a 580 or a 5700xt
>>105940374the only way its less crisp is if you're running the wrong resolution
>>105938209>Is this going to be another poorfag cope feature that gets rebranded as a Premium Exclusive Deluxe feature like upscaling?Don't act like some 7900 XTX owners aren't begging for an official port of FSR4.
>>105939422Performance-related issues are mostly down to the OS & game engine, especially for DX12 titles.
It's not a coincidence Microsoft started to accelerate Windows display-related issues since NVIDIA started to work on RTX 50 driver fixes; NVIDIA was finding issues that Microsoft needed to fix for Windows.
Even HWUB Steve admitted his little "Fine Wine" video's performance boost mostly stemmed from games + Windows updates.
>>105938801It depends on how large a case you want.
Pop Air, Epoch, and Meshify 3 are a bit smaller (space for 280 or 240mm rad for the top panel).
Lancool 216's front fans run loud at stock settings, you will need to set a lower static speed, still a nice case.
207 or 4000D RS ARGB if you like light shows, they are both good cases.
Montech Air 903 is a decent budget case, but the design isn't for me.
>>105938801Fractal Epoch and Meshify 3 cases have the best bundled fans; they compete well against Noctua's G2 fans that cost over $30 each.
>>105940440I'm running it at it's native resolution, it' a LG 27GP850-B
And it absolutely looks less crisp then the same image on a 1080p 16in laptop, I had them right next to each other.
Why WOULDN'T it be less crisp when a 16in 1080p laptop display has higher pixel density then a 1440p 27in one? I should have known better desu
>>105937256>>105937280>Driver overheadAMD fanatics always cite benchmark sources that love to rig the table in favor of Radeon GPUs.
The average & minimum FPS balance out across a variety of game engines.
>COD/WarzoneEveryone already knows that the game favors Radeon GPUs, and the reviewers can't even replicate the exact test conditions to present a fair review.
>>105938309idk. dust particles are pretty small, no?
>>105940923my mistake I assumed you were being a different kind of retarded
of course the higher dpi screen is going to look sharper
I use 4k 27" with 150% scaling and have minimal issues
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In my country 9070 XT Mercury OC was around 120$ cheaper than the worst shitty 5070 Ti with plastic backplate and 230$ cheaper than the first decent one from MSI.
Even if it's minimally slower it was worth it. I had Nvidia before those brand wars are fucking retarded. Corps are not your friends.
>>105937233>Posting a five-month Reddit thread.This is what Radeon copers do, they have no shame.
>>105941091No one in here is telling people to get the 5070 Ti at all costs, especially with the rumored Super cards.
>>105924946It's the 2~3 very insecure Radeon card owners posting stale technical problems or biased sources to validate their purchases.
>>105940374>>The monitor is litterally less crisp when playing games then my prior laptops1080p at that res is like 140ppi, you need 4k 32" to match it or 4k 27" to beat it
>the 1440p screen on the laptop itself is unusable for anything but games due to how tiny the menus and shit arewhat is scaling
>Do people typically suggest getting 24in monitors for 1440p then?no there are literally no good monitors
>Do I just have really high pixel density standards or something?yeah if you are used to 140ppi everything outside 4k will look like ass to you as said, rightfully so
>Also how do people handle high res laptop displays without tiny as fuck menus? Window's scaling seems terrible and applies itself to things it shouldn't. Why the fuck is scaling even still necessary, has Microsoft seriously never bothered to make dedicated menu and UI graphics made for 1440p and 4k displays?just use scaling it aint that serious
>>105940001>According to this I should be fine with 600w?don't forget you have ssds, wifi cards, including fans from your case, everything counts in, for example my bare minimum is 850w, but I will take a 1000w because i would like to OC, have more fans, wifi card, 3 ssds, 2 hdds
>>105940374if your eyes are that crazy sharp, just paypig, get a high-end rig, and use a 4k 30+ monitor.
Consult pic related, Platos cave of monitor delusions.
amd not releasing fsr 4 on rdna 3 is why i will switch nvidia when buying my next gpu
rtx 6080(if it's above 20gb vram) is what i am thinking about in 2027
>>105941531whats wrong with 4k?
I like 4k and have been using 4k for many years. everything below 4k gives me aids
>105941157>It's the 2~3 very insecure Radeon card owners>"insecure Radeon card owners">says the Njudea shill who has to rebadge every fucking word written on the entire internet that isn't explicitly positive towards his precious trillion-dollar megacorp, carrying water for Njudea like he's paid $100 an hour to do it>the pedo-shill who brigades this general 24/7 and spams info-images shilling his precious, beloved, trillion-dollar megacorp, calls people advocating for buying AMD when appropriate, insecure.>>1059413201000W is future-proofing your pc unless you paypig for a 90 series Njudea gpu. The price difference isnt that much anyway, its a silly thing to 'save' money on.
>>105941594you're planning to buy a gpu in 2+ years time? what is wrong with you? FSR4 is technically RDNA 3 exclusive because they designed a subsection of the gpu's cores to process it directly, similar to Njudeas DLSS-dedicated die-space.
Its a shame its no longer open-source and available to both Njudea, Intel-aviv, and all amd gpus, but it never gained any real market-share outside of amd gpus and the upscaling arms-race demanded a sacrifice i suppose.
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>>1059416184k on a tiny 27inch monitor is just stupid, that's all. Unless you live in a shoebox and can't afford the space, or have to game in a humiliating location that is size-constrainted because you're whipped like pic rel.
Also without using upscaling tech you're compromising with god-awful scaling that isn't really supported by a lot of popular apps. Steam is a pain in the dick sometimes at 1440p with its tiny text, i'd dread to post or parse the steam discussion forums/friends groups at 4k.
lmao i just knew you would reply to me
couldn't help yourself
>>105941629lmao i just knew you would reply to me
couldn't help yourself
>>105941629Except I'm not the one who's misleading people that WoW's RT setting is buggy due to NVIDIA's drivers, or posting charts of a Sony first-party title that had less than $3 million to spend on PC porting.
The WoW RT issue was caused by an unstable MSI Afterburner version or setting.
It's the same 2~3 Radeon card owners in /pcbg/ sharing cherry-picked benchmarks or straight up lying to people.
>>105941652never had any issues with it and can read everything just fine.
>Unless you live in a shoeboxfor me its about easy transport and fast set up.
carrying a 42" TV is a lot more work than carrying 3 small boxes.
>>105941702where would you carry a pc? where to? where is your dedicated space? I havent touched my monitor or moved it in 2 years, i don't understand what you're doing. If you game in a lan with friends, just buy a laptop if you want convenience, its what i used to do.
>105941668>Njudea shill thinks he's fighting some sort of cringe-crusade against AMD advocates>in reality, normal gamers with too much self-respect to paypig for Njudea, recommending other products when appropriate, are mocking him for the disgraceful subhuman being he is>in reality, its just a half-dozen anons on here who enjoy articulating our contempt for a pedophile schizo with nothing better to do than astroturf a forum and mislead people trying to build their new/first pc, on behalf of a trillion-dollar megacorp that is an objective blight on gaming.Fuck off pedo-schizo, anons come here to get away from the relentless shilling, not see more of it, kys.
>105941696No, nobody cares about your goalpost-shifting and schizophrenic babble pedo, kys.
>>105941728>normal gamers with too much self-respectExcept you don't have self-respect, you slopped up the buggy 7900 XTX like the Guinea Pig you are.
>It's not bugged!The bugged GPU failed to meet AMD's performance & efficiency target, that's why the bugged GPU needs so much more power to sustain their advertised 3GHz boost clocks.
Just admit you have a hard-on for Radeon.
>>105941728>Debunking AMD-fanatics' distorted claims is "goalpost-shifting"Have some self-respect.
>>105941652>can't do what you want without your wife's permission/approval>referring to YOUR wife as "the" wifewhy are r*dditards like this
>>105941728>anons come here to get away from the relentless shillingIt's the 2~3 insecure Radeon card owners like (You) who are shitting up these threads.
I can't even link all the shitpost because the reply system thinks the links are spams.
>>105924962>>105933060>>105937233>>105937246
>>105939910For gaming you might as well save a few bucks and get a 2690 V4. Very little difference.
>>105941728>where would you carry a pc?I dont live for long in the same place, I move like every 4 months.
https://a.co/d/53XMrFw
Amazon Prime offer. Should I?
how are you guys even discussing gpus? it's a solved discussion until next gen
If you want the best perf get a 5090
if the next step down is good enough for you get the 9070xt or the nvidia alternative or if you use linux only or something where amd works better on or whatever the fuck
it's not even a discussion worth having
suck whoevers dick you wanna suck the most
how is this even a real discussion
>>105942026>Around $222.10 USThe price seems fine, but the stand sucks. I would get a VESA mount for that monitor.
It's your standard 1440p 180Hz IPS monitor.
Just upgraded my GTX 660 to a GTX 1080 Ti :)
Why is there not a laptop general? I'm aware of the Thinkpad thread but I want to run Windows and just be able to have 30 tabs open, it be fast and watch a movie. Im not a schizo Linux retard that wants to have to install 30 drivers for the audio to work or care much.
>>105942057Because it's not that hard to pick a laptop you need/want? Especially with all the dedicated laptop reviewers available.
It's more about whether the laptop spec you want is worth spending the money on.
>>105942048It would be my very first monitor, so as long as it's good quality, I'll go for it. I'll consider the mount since I don't have much space in my desk and I'm planning on getting a second one in the future.
>>105942086I'd look for alternatives; the brightness is too low for an IPS monitor.
See if the Acer XV271U M3 is available at a reasonable price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__WHIe_KPXY
>>105942076Makes sense. Appreciate the response.
Can anyone help me out with a case for my build? I plan on getting a used 4090 but I don't know if that case i picked would fit it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LWHvt3
>>105942150its like you bought expensive cpu and gpu and everything else is bargain bin
just get a fractal north case, it at least says on the specs what size gpu fits it
>>105942150You just have to check the spec sheets of the case and the 4090 model you want to purchase.
They give you a GPU length clearance; you should plan to have at least 20~30mm of spare clearance (with front fan or radiator attached).
Use the case's CPU height clearance information to check whether the case is wide enough to fit the card plus the 35mm recommended cable clearance before bending it..
Seasonic's 35mm bend clearance isn't a requirement; they're covering their asses with that disclosure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-7LZvVSL5U
>>105942166Cool I'll look it up. My budget is $2500, gotta cheap out on everything else kek. Is there anything you'd suggest i "upgrade" on?
>>105942150blowing a whole nvme slot on a anemic 500gb drive is stupid, don't do it
>>105942136Would it be this one? Looks pretty affordable: https://a.co/d/2b72x7i
I also looked for that AOC Q27G3XMN on the image, but it's not available.
>>105942215I'd get a watercooler for the cpu. Its not necessary but it leads to less throttling and lower noise when the cpu ramps up.
The mobo has 1 pcie 5 m.2 slot so I'd get a 2tb samsung 9100 for it. Theres 2 other pcie 4 m.2 slots and your cheaper nvmes can go in those.
ram is prob fine but not best
psu is a random brand and the usual wisdom is get known brands that are well reviewed
>>105942232I was thinking of using the 500gb ssd for Windows and files. And the 4th for games. Would there not be any benefits in separating them? Should i just stick to the 4tb?
Should i keep my 150$ 9600x and wait for zen 6? Or should I just get a 7800x3d instead? I'm paring it with my 5070ti at 4k
>>105942241>Would it be this one? Looks pretty affordable: https://a.co/d/2b72x7i>Nitro XV271U M3bmiiprx That's the one
>>1059422759600x is pretty good for any game and the difference in 4k is going to be some random 1% drops and depends on if the game is poorly coded or something.
I don't like when PC parts say "gaming" on them. It's like having a bunch of shit on your car that says "driving"
>>105942262I could swap out the PSU to a be-quiet one, its about $20 more
Which pcie 5 ssd do you recommend? Their prices are pretty high. I honestly would rather have more storage than speed
>>105942283Thanks fren, I'll keep it on the list.
>>105924901>$3000 graphics card is better than a $1000 graphics cardyeah no shit retard
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>complain to fedex
>they magically find my package 2 hours later
reminder that karen energy solves problems
Mouse pad recs? Looking for around a 2.5-3 ft by 1ft
Looking to get an actual fucking gpu (used to have a rx580 but the integrated gpu was so much better i just tossed it into the void)
>CPU
Ryzen 7 5700G (only got it since it was 75$ new)
>MOTHERBOARD
A320M-HDV R4.0
>RAM
32 but its not like my pc needs that much
>GPU
none, see above lol
>DRIVE
Samsung 990 EVO Plus SSD 2TB
>LOCATION
US of A
>BUDGET
400$ or less.
I'm so tired of running max low graphics on helldivers 2 man.
>>105942649just get a console lil nigga
>>1059426499060 xt 16gb or up the budget to get 5070 and actually good experience
Do you guys think it's possible to build something that can get 240fps on high in Rocket League and CS2 for under $900? I already have a monitor and SSDs and possibly can reuse a case
>>1059428145060 gpu 330$
some am5 mobo <150$
9600x cpu <250$
thermalright cpu cooler <50$
32gb ddr5 ram <110$
750w psu <90$
>>105942653try harder, here's a pity (You)
>>105942660thanks, 9060 should last me awhile
>>105942851>9060 should last me a whilelamo
>>105942882im kinda going for lower price here, most of the games i play are already over or are reaching a decade old already.
I have an unopened 8700k, STRIX Z370-E, 64gb DDR4-3000 CL16 RAM, and a Deepcool Castle 240EX, (and a 1000w PSU and a case, but I'd hold onto those) I've had sitting around for 7-9 years at this point
Is it worth trying to sell all that minus the case and PSU? (could I get $200 for it?) or am I better off just building it and buying a modern GPU, and then upgrading the CPU, RAM, MOBO, and cooler later?
How much issues will I run into if any trying to use a 4080 with this? Obviously I'll be CPU limited, but in practice I'm wondering how it'd handle say Cyberpunk if I wanted to play at medium to high settings at 1440p at 60fps. Also wondering if the 4000 series GPUs have the right power connections for an older PSU without using the dodgy/flawed converters
>105941895get baited pedo-schizo lmao, 4 low quality posts are a drop in the ocean compared to your dedicated shill-ti faggotry.
>>105942931then yes the 9060xt will be fine for you. I recall Njudea abandoning DX9 or some shit so older games may not work at all on the 5000 series.
>>105942932your idea sucks, build it in a cheap smaller case, and plug it into your tv to be a server/plex computer, then make a real computer for yourself with new parts. Or you can mine crypto on it or some shit, but i think thats no longer profitable so whatever.
>>105942057There's no need for a general about a product that is one and done. Modding a laptop is either super restricted to whatever the manufacturer deems upgradeable (usually storage) or is the realm of enthusiasts who already know what they are doing. Just ask here. What laptop models are available to you and which are you currently looking at?
>>105942943The only one who got baited here is you; even HWUB Steve couldn't outright recommend the 7900 XTX over the costlier 4080.
>>105941091> 230$ cheaper than the first decent oneIf only that had been the case in March I too would own a Radeon now.
>>105942263A Windows drive will get frequently used for updates and assorted background Windows things, but not anything meaningfully stressful for a modern drive. You're only missing out on 500 GB, as the other anon said leave the slot open for the future.
>>105935666>iiiinsane you’d play that over 3
>>105938309Oh yes! Even dense dust filters only filter particles down to a certain size and the very fine dust particles accumulate inside the case nevertheless. It's just a lot less material than without dust filters and doesn't choke cooling equipment nearly as quickly.
Fuck these jewish graphics cards, im never upgrading beyond 1440p
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What the heck, I thought the RX 9070 was supposed to be good?
>>105943039Run Steel Nomad full version like a big boy.
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>>105943039RDNA4 cards score well on Steel Nomad 4K.
>>105938335>ahhh no my mouth is full of shit!- me