is he right? can you prove him wrong? - /g/ (#105928948) [Archived: 238 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:08:24 PM No.105928948
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>Burgum: "AI will take jobs away, like software development, because AI can write code. But AI can't wire a building, do plumbing. Kids go into the trades today -- they're all gonna be making $150,000."
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:09:40 PM No.105928961
>>105928948 (OP)
Lol not remotely. They're gonna flood the market with h1bs and other sorts of cheap foreign labor.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:11:14 PM No.105928975
>20% of the workforce gone
>somehow this massive spike in employee supply will cause everyone's pay to skyrocket
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:13:00 PM No.105928993
>>105928948 (OP)
Jews truly have buck broken the white man. You believe in a Jewish god, Jewish myths , your billionaire and politicians are Jews and Jews control your institutions.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:13:03 PM No.105928995
The only reason Trump isn't angrier about the hell going on in tech is because he's old and unfamiliar with it. If he realized the scale of the treachery he'd be going after the visas and remote scabs too. These snakes around him say it's all AI.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:14:07 PM No.105929008
>>105928993
>blah blah blah jew
Whar is the purpose of this performative nonsense?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:14:24 PM No.105929010
>>105928948 (OP)
AI can't do it, but robots will
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:16:43 PM No.105929033
>>105929010
AI can do it. Those robots will be powered by Large Geospatial Models. Anybody yelling "Do trades, they can't be automated" is a brainlet whose opinions should be discarded. There is nothing magical about turning a wrench which protects the laborer turning the wrench from automation.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:18:00 PM No.105929045
>>105929008
The guys beside Trump are Jews know your place fag. At least us Asians don’t worship a Jew
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:18:23 PM No.105929051
>>105929033

There actually is. A sophisticated machine like that is VERY costly to manufacture and maintain.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:20:41 PM No.105929081
There’s two obvious solutions to this:1: prefab designs
2: better robots
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:24:44 PM No.105929121
time to get out of your mother's basement and become a millionaire bricklayer
moar tradies = moar gooder
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:27:03 PM No.105929147
pleasepleasePLEASE keep investing in AI we swear there will be results soon pleaseGOD uhhh don't ask why I'm cashing in my stocks haha
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:27:05 PM No.105929149
>>105928948 (OP)
tradespeople don't make that much, and the flood of dumbasses into trades will do to them what has been done to tech. if you're going into it because some rich guy told you to, you're already too late, they are trying to push down the value of that labor
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:28:19 PM No.105929162
>>105929045
>us Asians
heh
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:34:52 PM No.105929237
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I will never ever understand why software “engineers” are so convinced their jobs aren’t in jeopardy but frankly I don’t care. You guys are all the top programmers at at a big company allegedly and the company can’t function without you and no matter what you will be the last one to be fired once AI gets good enough to replace the rest of your team. But also AI has hit the ceiling for its coding potential anyway because <REASON REDACTED> so it will never be a better programmer than you no matter what. The lack of humility on the SWE side is delicious and the next ten years are going to be a joy to watch.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:36:48 PM No.105929261
>>105928948 (OP)
ah yes, the famously well paid blue collar work
I pity the retards who get baited into this shit
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:37:52 PM No.105929272
>>105928948 (OP)
Trumpedo and his gaggle can sell this lie to Americans because Americans have been rich for so long they forgot what it's like to have that sort of economy. In a "normal" economy where trade jobs are common and done by the general populace they don't pay much at all, and by the time you hit 40 - 50 you're basically an old man (think in terms of a common 70 year old today, that's the level I'm talking about.) Manual labor ages you, breaks your health and in the end none of the stuff you did matters at all because even if you were prudent and so on by the time you accumulated enough money and wealth to be comfortable your health will give out and you will either drop dead or have medical bills up the ass that will devour everything. This is actually MORE true in America than anywhere else. So if you start working at a generous age of 20 and make it to 40 while being "based and trad" you'll by that age be in perpetual pain and health issues will start appearing, and by the time you're 50 you'll basically be done, over, as a viable worker. And since there's no pensions or a social safety net in the US you'll just slowly sink into debt, poverty, and then die.

There is a brief window in the economy when manual labor and trade jobs pay well, but this goes to shit the moment an economy reorients itself to creating a lot of tradies and manual laborers. After that moment you're the forever poor, brutalized by labor and life. In other words they're full of shit.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:39:14 PM No.105929281
>>105929237

There's no "lack of humility" you're just an envious little nigger. We will be replaced, we're already being replaced, just not by a fake ass meme like AI. It's Infinity South Asians connected to little remote boxes earning $10k per year.

You don't have to beg someone to use something that makes their life easier. AI does not do that. That's why they beg and demand SWEs use it and train it.

The irony of the tech industry forcing SWEs to become jack of all trades full stack maestros is that it's literally impossible to have an AI replace that. They already push us to our cognitive limit.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:39:24 PM No.105929282
>>105929237
if I'm getting replaced then at least half of all white collar work has already been replaced ie it's either welfare or increasingly widespread lynchings
I also bought two additional properties with techbro salary that I rent out
in short: it's unlikely to happen in the first place, and even if it does I'm well positioned to mitigate the problem
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:40:57 PM No.105929298
>>105929281
>They already push us to our cognitive limit
Can't believe Elmo was right that wypipo are too fucking dumb to do good work
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:42:47 PM No.105929326
>>105929281
>Hurr durr we we have to be good at our jobs and AI is fake
Fucking retard lol. Your five year plan better include learning plumbing
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:43:32 PM No.105929338
>>105929326
tradie cope
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:44:57 PM No.105929350
>>105929051
Programmers and artists said the same thing timmy now deliver my Uber Eats while I bob my head.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:45:58 PM No.105929365
>>105929326
>>105929350

>let me tell a software engineer how a thing built by software engineers ackshually works

"ok"

>>105929298

brownpipo are too dumb to understand that good work requires focus and deliberation. You faggots just slap features in and move on to the next piece of dogshart.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:49:16 PM No.105929401
>>105929237
These are people who unironically think that everything only functions through software. When their toilet clogs their solution isn't to get a plunger, it's to install a new SmartToilet that surely will use AI and blockchain to do ????? to prevent clogs ever happening again.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:52:47 PM No.105929435
>>105929237
6 more months!
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:56:14 PM No.105929480
>>105929401
>everything only functions through software
it does
1. be codemonkey
2. earn good money
3. pay some money to Paco or other 20iq retard who got baited into being a plumber to dig through literal shit-filled pipes
4. toilet unclogged as if by magic
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:58:01 PM No.105929497
>>105929480
>earn good money
Very interesting you just assume that’s going to continue being the case
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:58:35 PM No.105929500
>politician tells you that you can still serve under AI that serves under him and that you are still worth 150000 big shekel koins ( he dictates how much that is actually worth ) the shitter post
CAN YOU PROVE HIM WRONG?
how is this technology exactly?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:01:43 PM No.105929530
why dos every

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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:04:07 PM No.105929552
>>105929497
>you just assume that’s going to continue being the case
Why wouldn't I? Writing code is hardly the biggest part of my job, and my boss and his boss have better things to do than tard wrangling an LLM
Who exactly do you think will know how best to use those tools? Is there some shadowy cabal that hasn't interacted with computers and has no clue about programming but now that you can sort-of write unreliable code they will magically be hot shit at.... uhhh, kludging together APIs together with LLMs? Are muh business owners gonna spend their lives prooompting? Do you think anybody who isn't in tech even knows how to optimize context and how to work with MCP?
or maybe, just maybe, the people who already are good at working with computers will... continue to work on computer stuff, since it's what they're good at? whoa
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:08:35 PM No.105929602
>>105929010
It's impossible for robots, use your head. Real houses at least, absolutely impossible.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:10:42 PM No.105929622
>>105929480
>be code monkey
>have literally every PR, every message, everything you do watched over by your new LLM manager
>your job now is just prompting at whatever code tool your work foists upon you, or sifting through wikis generated by lazy brown women devs where everything surface level *looks* like it makes sense, but there's fundamental issues due to just a total lack of understanding beyond 'I prompted the LLM to generate some text'
>'code velocity' not high enough? PIP
>your job is offshored after private equity buyout and you are perma-blocked due to having to work with some indian office that gets back to you once every two days
>you are here

There's tons of trade work you could do. I think plumbing/hvac sounds interesting, but you could just as easily go into siding/gutters/roofing, or become an electrician. I had plenty of fun working at a startup that eventually IPO'd, but the nature of the work has so massively changed to make continuing to exist here painful. The only reason I stay is because $$$, but I'm coasting at this point waiting for buyout.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:11:01 PM No.105929624
>>105929602
Elon will make it possible in like 2 years lol
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:12:29 PM No.105929644
>>105928948 (OP)
I was working on a project and decided to put github copilot in agent mode using claude sonnet 4. Gave it access to the whole documentation of protocol I was trying to use and told it to analyze my code base and the docs in order to figure out a solution to a very specifically described problem statement.

It got to work and I was amazed. It read the relevant docs, searched for information, came up with an architecture, implemented it, evaluated its own work, wrote tests and interpreted the results and iterated like this for a while.

But in the end it came up with a ridiculously overcomplicated solution that didn't even work, and that I had to spend exponentially more time on trying to fix than it "saved" me from doing the work myself.
In the end I wrote my own solution that was way more elegant and not even 10% of the lines of code shat out by copilot.

AI may be able to write "code" but it can't write programs. Just like any retard can write words but writing a book is a whole different ballgame.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:13:23 PM No.105929654
>>105929552
>or maybe, just maybe, the people who already are good at working with computers will... continue to work on computer stuff, since it's what they're good at? whoa
anon there's not a nice way to put this but i don't think our line of work will continue for much longer and viewing any manual or mechanical job as beneath you will hurt you in the long run seeing how you got filtered by unclogging your toilet
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:13:25 PM No.105929655
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>>105929622
How about I stay in my comfy, well paid job as long as I feel like and (you) do what plumbing work I need done, what with it being so interesting to you?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:15:38 PM No.105929677
>>105929654
>but i don't think
clearly, and that's why I sit in an air-conditioned office and get paid $200k a year while you destroy your body for $60k/yr digging through my toilet
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:17:28 PM No.105929693
>>105929530
Readability isn't something invented by reddit you stupid faggot.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:21:17 PM No.105929720
>>105928975
Yes.
Politicians also thought the plandemic gibs have lasted people several years.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:52:17 PM No.105929965
>>105929480
people telling cooooders to just learn a trade are as dumb as the psyoppers telling tradies to just learn to code

but if you legit are incapable of unclogging a toilet by yourself you have worse problems, and are a perfect example of how the bulk of "tech" industry people are utterly dismal examples of humanity who, if not for slightly more retarded venture capital/private equity firms using you to print money from nothing, would be of zero value to the world
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:55:02 PM No.105929986
>>105929655
Hey, I'm right there with you, working my 'software engineer' or whatever it is this week gig. I'd rather make 300k a year versus half that. Apprentice plumbers get shit, too. That being said, the Titanic has already hit the iceberg, what makes you think you're going to keep getting comfy pay?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:58:09 PM No.105930018
>>105929965
Yeah, more realistically it'll be unemployment while you compete with a literal army of jeets trying to get another gig after getting laid off. There's no incentive to quit working a tech job if you've got one, but it just seems like shit is getting worse and worse with it, with the advent of LLM tooling and the insane amount of shilling for that tooling from management types, at least in my org.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:02:47 PM No.105930059
>>105930018
that has nothing to do with what i'm saying. i'm talking shit about you for being inept at anything that isn't copy-pasting from stackoverflow (and if "tech"(coooooding) does implode, you are turbo-fucked because apparently you cannot even unclog a toilet, let alone learn any actually marketable skills)
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:43:24 PM No.105930369
Devs arguing about who will get fired first is hilarious to me.

I'm going to enjoy being superior in both skill, knowledge, and job safety in my infra role.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:50:20 PM No.105930425
>>105928948 (OP)
Where is all the work that will hire all those new tradesmen?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:38:17 AM No.105930826
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>>105928948 (OP)
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:49:33 AM No.105930958
>>105928948 (OP)
>guy that imposed tariffs in raw materials instead of end products says AI is not a threat to human workers
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:29:03 AM No.105931830
>>105929237
Like check out clerks, they hope to be the one still remaining to ensure the automation actually does it's job.

CEOs sure as fuck aren't going to be telling AI to do XYZ and ensure it actually works.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:48:25 AM No.105931952
Time is running out for tradies. The floodgates are being opened as we speak.

What did you all expect after years of "learn a trade"?

*tick tock*

*tick tock*
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:56:29 AM No.105932005
>>105928948 (OP)
you will compete with the endless mexican spawn in the trades.

The capital class won on all fronts. They mass imported scabs legally via H1B and illegally from Mexico. And now they bring the thinking machinery. Which the official economist line is that it'll enhance your productivity and therefore actually increase what companies are willing to pay you. They really think it'll work out. They haven't realized that capital is now an actual substitute good to half the labor market.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:58:05 AM No.105932018
wow with the decreased cost of plumbing after the trades are full of job refugees I will be able to double or maybe triple the amount of plumbing in my home for the same cost. that's exactly what I need
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:00:28 AM No.105932031
>>105928948 (OP)
"just learn a trade bro" -guy who never worked a trade in his life
many such cases
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:01:32 AM No.105932042
>>105929237
i've already earned more than you will in your life
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:01:44 AM No.105932044
>>105928948 (OP)
Reminder that Burgum sold his shitty company "Great Plains" to Microsoft like 20 years ago and they still shill it as business software. He just wants those people to lower wages so his shares go up.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:07:23 AM No.105932068
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>>105928975
Never underestimate the magic of printing more money. Inflation will increase your wage.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:16:10 AM No.105932116
>>105928948 (OP)
i guess all the ai bots will need plumbing and a place to sleep, because humans will not be able to afford shit.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:18:18 AM No.105932132
>>105928948 (OP)
he's right, only that $150K will be todays $60K
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:27:16 AM No.105932169
>>105928948 (OP)
trade jobs are going to collapse as there will be overcompetition in the market and not enough people to pay for the work.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:33:01 AM No.105932208
>>105932031
I love how Taleb harps on and on about how amazing it is to have a job as a taxi driver in his books
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:53:27 AM No.105932306
>>105928948 (OP)
He is wrong about the code and right about the trades.
Look at how the people who spent the most money are scaling like crazy again(just like it was before someone came up with a new application for reinforcement learning) to have very small improvements ON BENCHMARKS but still falling apart in simple problems, and meta is trying to buy every researcher to cause a "brain drain" in the field(meta will produce nothing but everyone else will stagnate). They know it, they just don't want another bubble bursting. They will keep lying about "AI" quality until a major software related problem happens or software becomes so inefficient that the hardware will not be able to hide it anymore due to its physical limitations(for example: making transistors smaller than a few silicon atoms becomes problematic due to quantum mechanical effects like electron tunneling and the physics of organized matter).
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:06:14 AM No.105932367
>>105932169
Nevermind the automation that's been happening in this space already. Bedrock Robotics is one, but I have a buddy that's at a company that's been actively deploying solutions at real job sites for a couple of years now. The best paying larger scale construction jobs are going to be massively displaced by this stuff, and much sooner than people are expecting.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:17:13 AM No.105932434
>>105928948 (OP)
>When you realize who the guy on the right side is
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:19:48 AM No.105932451
We used to bring poles for that but they became rich and not even them wanna work construction now o_O
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:22:11 AM No.105932462
>>105932208
He just says that is more stable than being a wagie, which is true.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:24:41 AM No.105932474
>>105929033
You're like those autists that said robots would take over trucking 20 yrs ago and that it was "any day now"
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:26:09 AM No.105932482
>>105932434
It's totally normal and not weird for the literal long time next door neighbor and close friend of Jefferey Epstein (who was not a real person and did not have a client list) to escort the president at all times.

Q is definitely not in the process of exposing that the president has been drugged, implanted, and should now be considered as compromised. This post does not exist.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:44:46 AM No.105932558
>>105932367
It's like everyone forgot about the pre digital world when all the manufacturing jobs were automated away. Now people think only digital jobs can be lost but analog can't? Michigan says hello
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:47:26 AM No.105932838
>>105929644
>Sonnet 4
Bro, use opus or use nothing. Sonnet 4 is dumber than gemini 2.5 and dumber than its own previous version
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:22:57 AM No.105933030
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Yes, we will all make $150k. Pic related.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:28:33 AM No.105933058
When robots started taking away good paying factory union jobs, workers started sabotaging and destroying the machines.

Instead software cucks are just taking it up the ass, improving the machine that replace them, training the H1-B visa worker that will replace them, and then getting laid off.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:30:27 AM No.105933064
You're not going to make shit in the trades, these companies don't make billions of dollars spending it on quality work. You'll be expected to to work harder and faster while either making it look like it's up to code and spec or just barely making it even worse on a 'small job' that won't be inspected where you just make it work.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:32:07 AM No.105933075
>>105928995
He used chinese-made hats for his campaign and illegals work in all of his businesses. The rich are well aware of what is happening since they are profiting from it.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:25:54 AM No.105933655
>>105933058
Decline of factory workers still happened regardless. They just moved everything to china. There is no point having a kid because there is no future or he can feed himself
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:34:36 AM No.105933703
>>105928948 (OP)
>The trades have too many low quality workers.
Reading between the lines. We can see what the endgoal is. You can't upkeep that infrastructure while importing people. As it turns out, all of that immigration is causing faster degradation and quality. Whoddathunk?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:36:06 AM No.105933713
>>105933655
>decline of factories happened regardless
This is the effect from the cause.
>They just moved everything to china.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:41:20 AM No.105933750
>>105928948 (OP)
Lying ass motherfucker
This is the same "learn 2 code" shit they spouted a decade ago.
In 4 years the trades are going to be so impacted no one will have a job
Again.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:51:53 AM No.105933809
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>>105928948 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:55:00 AM No.105933832
>>105928948 (OP)
Who will fix AI-generated endless piles of trash?
We still didn't figure out how to prevent the software crisis, using real engineering teams.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:57:17 AM No.105933844
Ah yes, all the creative jobs are going to AI while the mind-numbing labor are for human. You said thanks to your AI overlord yet?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:48:10 AM No.105934412
>>105933030
i actually have one of these.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:54:54 AM No.105934438
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>>105933809
>"Okay. There's no reason to have that building there if there's no use for it. The way to address this is to reduce the population."
>Proceeds to send money to people and blackmail others to get this to happen
Sam Altman thought people would never leave OpenAI and said as much, and then Zuck offered them lots and lots of money and guess what happened? Whoops.
Everyone has a price.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:59:47 AM No.105934459
>>105929237
Maybe domain experts scoffing at something should be a clue. Oh it produced flappy bird from memory this thing is going to replace kernel devs -You
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:02:07 AM No.105934472
>>105932474
Yeah and now AI will code everything and fire all office workers any day now.

BTW truckers not being automated anytime soon was obvious to anybody who looked at trains. Trains only go where the rails allow them to go and run on schedules with basically no traffic from other trains. In a theory you could automate that job with simple JavaScript or something, and yet they are there for safety reasons and maybe because the job is way harder then people think it is, so just teaching AI truck how to steer and not crash into other vehicles is not enough to automate that job.
Replies: >>105934485
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:04:34 AM No.105934485
>>105934472
>Trains only go where the rails allow them to go and run on schedules with basically no traffic from other trains. In a theory you could automate that job with simple JavaScript or something,
trains ARE automated. they still have human conductors for safety and the scheduling is done by humans, but the actual movement and signalling/switching is automatic in many places now.

Techbros need to stop talking shit about trains as if they know how they work, stop trying to make "trains but bad"
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:07:42 AM No.105934500
>>105929237
The tide of AI slop code will just create more work, ultimately.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:08:22 AM No.105934503
>>105933075
>He used chinese-made hats for his campaign
that was never true, official campaign Trump hats were made in California
Replies: >>105939030
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:09:08 AM No.105934507
>>105928948 (OP)
>some random faggot on twitter
>hey guise!
kys, faggot
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:09:30 AM No.105934509
>>105928948 (OP)
this doesnt make sense in the slightest if everyone goes into trade jobs the wages will decrease because people will be fighting for the jobs and take lower pay
Replies: >>105934609
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:10:16 AM No.105934515
you can already make pretty good money doing it.

i think you need a certain grit for it though, soft handed computer nerds aren't going to do roofing in 100 degree weather. i know i'm not cut out for that shit, but I have nothing against it
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:26:50 AM No.105934598
>>105928948 (OP)
and who's gonna write the AI?
>inb4 de AI duuuuuuuuuh
then what's stopping the AI from controlling robots and doing infinitely simpler work than recursive self-improvement
Replies: >>105936040
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:29:09 AM No.105934609
>>105934509
But surely line go up.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:02:13 PM No.105936040
>>105934598
Do you understand what AI is? It’s just synonym for machine learning software because AI sounds better, and machine learning/AI require learning data to run, not smart programmers writing code. Sure the pipeline needs to be programmed but that is being done by handful of OpenAI researchers or some other lab researchers that are using AI to write boilerplate anyway. We can have a world where AI automates 99% of software development and still not have dexterous robots because you need learning data for those robots.
Replies: >>105936441
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:03:19 PM No.105936050
>>105928948 (OP)
>Claim without evidence
Can be dismissed without evidence.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:06:03 PM No.105936070
>>105929602
>Real houses at least, absolutely impossible.
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL2KoMNzGTo
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:08:18 PM No.105936090
>>105936070
So when are you moving into this piece of shit? The robot does the wiring, plumbing, HVAC too, right?
Replies: >>105936818
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:51:23 PM No.105936441
>>105936040
just make the robot try its best and learn iteratively based on its own output... lol...
Replies: >>105936589
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:53:51 PM No.105936469
>>105936070
>house falls down in a stiff breeze

self-deploying shelters are already a thing though. it's basically an ISO container except the sides pop out on rails. they're used all over the place in military FOBs and some of the designs even let you pack some user items (office furniture mostly) into them on top of being all pre-wired. yet again techbros try to "disrupt" a mature market they know nothing about
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:57:48 PM No.105936496
>>105928961
he is absolutely right. stop taking copium and instead of trying compete with machines, learn a trade.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:59:30 PM No.105936515
>>105936070
3d printed houses and prefabbed parts and geopolymers get rid of much of the need for thinking on your feet as to why a human would be needed, and can be handled now with flow chart level logic. It isn't implemented at all yet because the industry has not yet adopted the methods, but they do exist.
Replies: >>105936818
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:09:50 PM No.105936589
>>105936441
That’s what they have been doing for more then a decade now, and this kind of teaching system only thought robots how to keep balance and walk funny
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:35:31 PM No.105936804
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1718326822803073
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>>105928948 (OP)
there's no escaping what's coming.

you can dig a hole a mile deep, you can fly a thousand miles high, you can make all the connections and have all the money, you can sever all the connections and ditch all possessions, it is coming for us all.

death. everyone dies.

make the best of your time here, steer the world if you want, or, don't. just do what makes you happy, and do it well.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:36:42 PM No.105936818
>>105936090
>So when are you moving into this piece of shit?
I will
>The robot does the wiring, plumbing, HVAC too, right?
soon anon, in a few years robots will be as perfect as humans
>>105936515
>and can be handled now with flow chart level logic
AI will do the job
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:25:35 PM No.105937833
>>105928948 (OP)
>kids
>$150,000
Accounting for inflation 10y from now?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:32:46 PM No.105937902
>>105928948 (OP)
Unironically yes
The only people disagreeing with it are /g/'s 500lbs lardasses who only got into tech because of the entire "le comfy desk job where I never move my lard ass"
Turns out AI does not have to move either, and it is in constant improvement to the point it might completely replace your average codemonkey very soon
Trade bros remains untouched because most blue collars would be too expensive or impractical to put robots on
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:35:36 PM No.105937929
>>105928948 (OP)
Trades will get gutted like tech jobs have. Robotics are advancing greatly and in 10 years from now we will have Robots that will be able to do all physical labor a human can.
Replies: >>105938009
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:39:09 PM No.105937963
>>105929149
A CS101 in college told us that if we wanted to be rich to not get into tech because many colleges had as many people as ours or even more and that only if you like programming to stay in the class. He also redpilled us on Diploma Mills in India and China and that the owners of big companies just wanted to flood the market with programmers and software engineers. He focused on making sure we knew what were doing and could do quality code and was very harsh. But his words were that in order to compete with Indians and Chinese you gotta be a step above them.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:39:40 PM No.105937968
>>105928948 (OP)
>AI can write code
Every free model and even a couple of paid ones I tried will choke on any moderately complex C/C++ task you assign it, so no. It's not creative enough to architect anything from scratch either. It can't handle standards compliance and will gleefully shit out broken POSIX code or recommend libraries you specifically asked it not to.

AI will replace Indians because they always wrote awful, useless shitcode. Real programmers will always be able to find work. I'll have plenty to do when these shortsighted, small dick MBA losers need someone to clean up the mess they made. I look forward to billing ignorant manchildren for as many hours as I can get away with.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:43:28 PM No.105938009
>>105937929
Yeah mass-produced humanoid robots, but they don't have the raw resources nor the supply chains to build those robots. They are building them slowly in the periphery though, so maybe in 50-100 years the trades will be halved... which would involve replacing road workers, drivers, day laborers, etc but keeping electricians, plumbers, carpenters, etc who have specific training and insight, and more powerfully, are protected by their unions.
Replies: >>105938325
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:48:33 PM No.105938049
>yet another bullshit ai startup advertisement thread
Your chatbots can't even answer an elementary school question right.
>>105933058
Are you expecting devs, mostly in shitholes like california, to start mass killing h1bs and the offshore outsourcees? Do you "billions must die" types even have the capability to think through these things you say people should do (but will never ever do yourself because reasons, other people need to do it) and consider the logistics of it? No matter how much of an edgelard you want to be, the differences between breaking machines and killing people alone are massive. It'll never happen.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:14:02 PM No.105938325
>>105938009
just define the robots in software?
Replies: >>105938683
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:28:45 PM No.105938486
>Needed a moving company. One guy shows up sits in my driveway gives me a quote. The next guy walked thru the house and gave me a quote. The third guy shows up opens every closet every cabinet and has a fairly spot on estimate. The first two were off by nearly 30% on weight/cost.

>Needed someone to paint the entire interior of a house. One guy pulls a no show on the walkthru and then 3 months latter says I didnt show on time that day (it was already a done job at that point). Second guy goes 'hmm duno maybe X price'. Next guy measures everything has a itemized estimate. I hired the one with the good estimate.

>My sister needed some simple electrical work done. 2 guys just handed her a number and an open ended contract. The 3rd guy had an itemized estimate that was lower than the first two because he did the prework.

>Had some AC work done. Again with the 3. 1 just random didnt even come out, 1 driveway guy, and 1 who actually looked around and figured it out correctly. Even then I walk out there and the outside unit is installed backwards. I tell them, they puff out on me. I grab the foreman and walk him over with a 'uh there is a small issue here' didnt tell him what. They had to redo 3 hours of work once the foreman saw it backwards. All because the guys he had were willing to do backwards work. The foreman is usually the key.

>Trying to have a covered porch added to my current house. So far 2 no shows and totally ghosted.

I wish this was atypical. But it isn't. I have many more.
Finding people is easy with the internet. Getting good work done is hard. You basically have to do the 10 stage engineering interview with them but can still end up with a slick salesman and garbage crew. If robots could make this transaction as easy as self-checkout, no loser with a trade will ever find work.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:47:47 PM No.105938683
>>105938325
Software can't lift a 2x4, you need physical robotics to do it, and obviously you need to source and build the physical robotics in order for them to exist and start taking jobs.
Replies: >>105938823
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:52:54 PM No.105938740
22-35-52
22-35-52
md5: b09d7933537d00bc6ef4bf65461972c6🔍
>>105929272
>Americans have been rich for so long
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:57:54 PM No.105938790
>>105936070
Rats will enjoy those walls so much, they will have whole colony inside.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:01:12 PM No.105938823
>>105938683
>Software can't lift a 2x4,
Says who? A1 will fix it.
Replies: >>105938844
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:02:57 PM No.105938844
>>105938823
A1 can fix my overcooked steak. That's about it.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:09:09 PM No.105938912
>>105928948 (OP)
>compete with illegal labor you stupid wageslaves!
I can't believe there exist real, breathing humans that fall for this shit.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:16:23 PM No.105938984
>>105929401
Yo as a swe I can clog your toilet that’s for sure
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:19:03 PM No.105939005
>>105928961
of course, if mutt wants 150 000$ there is no fucking reason for such overpriced bullshit 20 000$ is enough and if mutts are so fancy to demand more, they will get replaced with people that this is some nice money to them!
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:21:27 PM No.105939030
>>105934503
>California
Anon, that's even worse.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:35:24 PM No.105939180
>>105928948 (OP)
Salaries for trades suck ASS now - why in the world would they increase when the job market becomes overfilled by jeets, mexicans and former software developers? And by their logic this move only buys you a few more years until mass produced robotic systems will replace trades too.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:44:00 PM No.105939280
Don't care.

I'm gonna make it.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:09:24 PM No.105939570
>>105928948 (OP)
>Kids go into the trades today -- they're all gonna be making $150,000

lmao
Replies: >>105940406
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:54:21 PM No.105940073
>>105932018
What do you need all that plumbing for? Are you running a streetshitter rehabilitation clinic where you potty train indian immigrants or something?
Replies: >>105940474
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:11:11 PM No.105940234
Two of my subordinates were cut yesterday because customer is retarded enough to try replace them with ai or something.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:25:33 PM No.105940406
>>105939570
they still will, just in 15 years or more.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:30:51 PM No.105940474
>>105940073
i modeled my home on sspipes.scr
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:42:08 PM No.105940591
>>105929350
>while I bob my head
lol this nigga suckin DICK
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:44:35 PM No.105940617
>>105928948 (OP)
Maybe artists were right with their ai hate. Some of them are trannies and lefties etc but their seethe is justified.
I think software developers should make their own union, just like tradies, but it seems that programmers are quite selfish.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:04:12 PM No.105940825
>>105928948 (OP)
Here's an economics life hack
It's literally
ALL
JUST
supply and demand
>will AI increase the demand for electricians and plumbers?
>will laid software devs?
>will either increase the demand for electricians and plumbers?
Answer these questions and you will know>>105928948 (OP)
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:07:05 PM No.105940853
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>>105929045
>atleast us asians dont worship a jew
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:04:47 AM No.105941372
The elites who fuck children really, really, REALLY don't want you to know how to code.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:10:00 AM No.105941410
rip wagie
rip wagie
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>>105928948 (OP)
Lol? Lol.