Is AI just a fad?

where are the profits?

>>105929604
that never stopped the metaverse

>>105929586 (OP)
Nope. AI is the future. Only insecure artists say otherwise

>>105929679
We're almost a full six month into the year in which AI was said to replace at least half of human workers in several fields of work.
So far, next to nothing of this has actually happened.

how does facebook even have hundreds of billions?

>>105929586 (OP)
we are approximately at 2017 VR.

>>105929586 (OP)
>gib moneys plox

I think ai it's just going farther, but this doesn't mean that it will provide good things. Although ai can replace a lot of things , you just gotta look at the bad side of it. For example a lot of people have already lost their work because of Human replacement with ai.

>>105929586 (OP)
> "Climate change"

>>105929967
two billion meta users have two digit IQ and can be sold merchandise very easily

>>105929967
they don't. they expect (you) to front the money.

> dot com
> web 2.0
> mobile
> VR
> Bitcoin
> Blockchain
> NFT
> AI

The bullshit hype train keeps going.
And, as usual, it always ends in another monopoly being created.

>>105929967
He bent the knee to GARM advertisement organization and banned Trump, censored covid stories, banned ukraine war narratives, etc.

>>105931478
What monopolies were created by blockchain/nft?

>>105931478
>NFT
>monopoly

>>105931524
>>105931528
Everything starting at VR and onward is too recent.
Those monopolies need some more time to bake...

>>105931551
I would say meta has a pretty firm monopoly on VR, even though it's shit
Valve's index is ancient and few people are willing to drop that money on an accessory, and every other company has basically given up at this point

>>105929586 (OP)
I don't know, but being able to make naked versions of all my favorite anime girls is already good enough.

>>105929586 (OP)
Okay, honestly how the fuck is Meta making money anymore?
No one I know uses Fagbook anymore
No one I know uses Oculus
Only things I know people use are whatsapp (very few) and Instagram (women)
Who the fuck is giving them money to advertise to no one?

>>105931698
first they are CIA funded so they will never go bankrupt, second companies give them major bucks to advertise to bots since the cost is baked into the product anyways. read Bernays one day and it will make more sense.

>>105929586 (OP)
Unfortunately it's worse than a fad. It's a collective delusion that will have severe economic consequences.

>>105929690
Only 2 more weeks.

>>105929703
This is just a guess on my part, but I think people are underestimating how dumb most people are. The issue is not with the tech, is that there are a bunch of idiot leaders who either don't understand and refuse to adapt, or are eager to jump on the ai bandwagon in a careless way. Right now I see every product or saas out there has an "ai boost" feature that no one cares. That being said, given enough time, I still think a massive shift will happen.

In 1998, you could say company will have a website, everyone will get a blog and a phone. You'd still be 10 years late for the bulk of social media and smart phones, but you could sense it coming. I think with AI it's the same.

I don't think it's the end of the world either. In the future, if you KNOW a piece of code logic by heart (rather than copypasting from vibe ai coding), or if you can paint with your hands or something like that, those will be rare and valuable.

>>105929604
profits are passe
tech is all about infinite growth with infinite loans now

>>105929604
>profits?
M8, the only cost-efficient AI company, are those who resell access.
AI is a huge money sink that can't be monetised.

>>105931729
>CIA
HAHAHAHA, CIA only operates outside the US. NSA is the one who runs the game. Plus, the budget for NSA is 12x bigger than the CIA budget.

>>105929690
techbros in 2015:
>ai will give humanity more leisure time!
techbros in 2025:
>learn to work in the fields faggot. theres a labor shortage after we deported all the people who did it originally. ai is coming for fake jobs like your own

>>105929586 (OP)
No, it's a grift

>>105929586 (OP)
AI literally doesn't exist

>>105932161
half reddit posters are AI now...

Bruh there is nothing funnier then 4chan autists who are so deep in denial that they act like AI literally doesn’t exist. This shit is going to fucking take your job next year bro you need to study up on plumbing and stop coping lmfao.

>>105932180
my plan B is literally domestic terrorism.
I will blow up the power lines every other day, and there is nothing that AI can do to stop me.

a lot of money to spend just to trick the "are you human" captcha

>>105929586 (OP)
Where is Meta anyway? I remember they were a pretty big player with Llama, but since the last one kinda flopped, even Gemini has caught up and surpassed them.
As a matter of fact I haven't heard anything from Meta in like half a year now. What are they doing?

>>105932180
I think it's weird how "AI" attracted a lot of secular rapturefags desu

>>105932277
>AI directly responsible for mass layoffs happening right now
>Hmm *puts finger on chin* I sure am glad I’m smart and can see this isn’t a big deal and won’t affect me
Get fucked lol

>>105932180
Always "going to" never has.

>>105932277
the matrix began with AI, watch it again

>>105932293
Bruh AI is barely even five years old and is already causing mass layoffs

>>105932301
wrong
perceptrons are from 1950s, and are direct ancestors of current ml models
even Gauss was doing what we now call ai 200 years ago

>>105932277
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>*powers up*

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>*rushes forward*

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>*rapid-fire punches*

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>*flushing sounds*

>>105931478
AI has legit tangible benefits you retard. It will replace workers and make general life easier (for rich people).

>>105932310
Shut the fuck up you nigger lmfao

>>105931478
>Acting like all those technologies didn’t change the world

>>105932317
that's one way to tell me that I'm right, I guess

>>105932312

>file.jpg
hm

wake me up when AI can train its own model in realtime while it's being used.

>>105929604
"AI doesn't make money. AI never made money. You put money in, you see, and AI comes out."

>>105929604
The profit is the power they will have over everyone. This is the endgame for the jews. You want to stop this shit, stop the money at the source. End the Fed.

>>105932277
Between Roko's Basilisk and everything Marx wrote, I'm becoming quite amused and disturbed at seeing what is essentially Christianity for Atheists take root as the dominant religion today.

oh look another AI schizo thread #5920862

>>105929703
it's really got nothing to do with replacing workers, that's just bullshit to get the investors cumming in their pants thinking we're going to live in a magic AI utopia with UBI in 2 weeks.

the true goal of artificial intelligence systems is exactly that, intelligence, as in intelligence gathering. the algorithms that could already predict everything about you and what you're going to do are going to go into overdrive over the next few years.

state surveillance, military intelligence, financial sector, insurance, biotech, these are the true money makers for such systems. they will become so refined they can practically see the future. they are already training these systems on massive datasets collected by the NSA, insurance companies, banks, etc.

AI has already been used to identify and kill "terrorists" and the practice will only grow from here. in combination with autonomous weapons and surveillance systems it will essentially be skynet.

i personally believe the next step will be bio-mechanical AI systems, basically chimeras of silicon and brain matter grown from stem cells, which will make these neural networks much more compact and energy efficient. probably why musk is experimenting so much with brain chip tech.

>>105932320
Sure, post 10 use cases.

>>105932718
also scaling AI into a hybrid abomination brain in a vat of growth media like this would essentially make it so you could have an AI node running in every metropolitan area and turn the cities into a giant neural network.

especially interesting will be AI implementations in the biotech fields. rapidly declining birthrates and rising infertility from pollution, obesity, medication,vaccines, IVF, abortion, etc. could essentially mean that in the future medical intervention would be required to have children for the majority of people, and AI could be used to determine genetic outcomes and risk factors.

financing having "ideal" children (determined by AI based on the Science™) could become a common practice, and could even be economically coerced by the institutions responsible for funding and insuring these procedures. Plato's dream of a eugenics based caste system could finally come to fruition.

>>105929967
Unlimited money from the money printer.

That sounds huge, how big are data centres usually?

Profit is measured in time savings and time to action completion dumb fags

Why don't they just build a giant prison for all the neets? A literal one, not another failed VR headset one.

>>105932291
Saar

>>105929586 (OP)
>artificial intelligence products
Name one that is not porn.

>>105929604
Funded by tax payers through CIA.

>>105929604
thats what the money printer is for

>>105929604
NSA doesn't care about profits

>>105929586 (OP)
He’s just doing pic rel

>>105932293
>never has.
so the layoffs news are fake or somthn?

>>105935175
To be fair, that's Indian outsourcing

>>105932718
>>105932884
>we could have cool innovative things like creating better energy, more efficent housing and other productive works to enlighten humanity
>instead, all the stolen money is being used to fuel ways to further control us and make us into slaves

I for one do not want that future.

>>105929586 (OP)
No

>>105929679
And where is the metaverse now?

>>105929586 (OP)
zuck the cuck will do anything for a buck
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nO9kHk3eydrh

>>105929586 (OP)
wow he is mutating into stereotypical jew, kipah soon

>>105932128
>HAHAHAHA, CIA only operates outside the US. NSA is the one who runs the game. Plus, the budget for NSA is 12x bigger than the CIA budget.
Got one.

>>105936245
wyrd winds ever as it will

>>105932310
Company incompetence is causing layoffs
>>105935175
>so the layoffs news are fake or somthn?
It being due to automation is fucking fake, that's for sure.
If it weren't the entire tech sector would not be shilling H1Bs.

>>105932173
Anon those bots are pretending to be redditors, not intelligent.

>>105929586 (OP)
I do truly believe that Facebook (Meta) will be the first of the FAGMANs to go to zero

>>105931528
He meant
>monopoly money
He listed vr. You can safely ignore everything he typed.

It's not gonna be a fad. FAGMAN has no other tricks up its sleeve to keep investors dumping money in. They need this shit to last as long as possible because after machine learning proves to actually be fake and gay, that's the end of the "products? no we just get the government and investment bankers to keep giving us money forever!" model.

Dumb people try to scam old people out of their savings
Smart people try to scam investors.
AI is filled with these scams.

>>105929586 (OP)
>>105929604
you really think the NSA and GCHQ need profits? what they really want is to make everyone depend on """AI""", to upload sensitive info and talk sensitive topics to a glorified chatbot.

Aren't our current "AIs" basically just glorified auto complete machine? like how can people think it will become self aware just beyond me, am I the dumb one here?

>>105940070
it won't. they trot out the AGI narrative every time they're doing another round of fundraising. they know better than anybody that we're lightyears away from "AGI." and even then who can actually define what AGI actually is and how you would test for it? what criteria would it have to meet to have conscious agency?

there is a distinction between doing and simulating. the example i have heard is that when you eat, you digest food, you participate in digestion. if you simulated everything about your digestive system in a computer, and simulated the act of digesting, the computer does not digest, it simulates. the same can be said about consciousness. at best it can be an extension of our minds, like writing and abacuses and computers are. im not smart enough to know the answer to whether a computer can participate in consciousness or not but these jews will tell you it is with utterly zero evidence

>>105929586 (OP)
Nope, the problem is to get something truly intelligent a new architecture is needed. That being said the base or at least a part will need to be an nearly optimal 100T with at least 10K Tokens/second. That will get it to something akin human intelligence. Problem is that needs at least 10 generations of hardware improvement to be feasible.

https://vocaroo.com/17NjSejdF668

>>105929604
...profit?

>>105932438
The fed doesn’t create money, private credit growth does

>>105929586 (OP)
Overhyped? Yes. A fad? Of fucking course not. It's clear regardless of what happens next, everyone is latching onto this tech.

>>105941681
good goy, they trained you well

>>105941741
Explain how the fed makes money right now.

>>105941775
nta but technically the money they make is fake.

>>105931220
/thread

>>105932277
You will lose your job to AI just because of how retarded you are.

>>105942205
1. They don’t make the money, demand for the currency generates new currency, 2. Then what do you consider real money? I buy my commodities and my businesses in dollars

>>105929604
literally all tech companies are reporting record profits as we speak. at least some of that is from increased worker productivity in the last year or two.
it's just the beginning, but i've answered your question.

>>105942505
>demand for the currency generates new currency

Who is demanding it? Not me, someone who wants sound money.

>Then what do you consider real money? I buy my commodities and my businesses in dollars

Precious metals just like every human civilization in history. Then barter. After that, favors between tribe members.

>>105940635
>what criteria would it have to meet to have conscious agency?
what's the benefit of having it

>>105932277
This post attracted some unusual hostility jej

>>105941726
>Yes, keep buying so I can dump and short!

>>105942709
fulfilling talmudic prophecies

>>105942743
hydrogen is coming back

>>105929604
Probably looking to sell directly to finance bros because of its proximity to the NYSE. If it works it'd be a literal money printer.

>>105942664
Plenty of people demand USD, it’s why it’s so valuable. Precious metals that had government insignias carved were the first currency, as having a third party ensure the purity of the metal content was valuable of itself, and carried a premium. So in fact precious metals are not currency, trust is more important to a currency.

>>105943527
>Plenty of people demand USD,
People demand food and the ability to pay for shelter. They can't get much of either of those with the USD. No one wants money that isn't able to buy those two things.

>So in fact precious metals are not currency

Tell that to the thousands of civilizations that were built around them. I swear talking about economics on /g/ always leads me to retards.

>>105942768
Can you elaborate? Last time I checked hydrogen was dirty and grey hydrogen vastly outnumbered blue and green hydrogen production because it's way less expensive.

Has the electrolysis efficiency problem been solved yet?

Tangentially related, what about the actual infrastructure to install hydrogen stations for consumer cars? Seems like another headache to deal with.
The Mirai is like on life support too, even in Japan.

>>105929604
Nvidia gets the profits

>>105929586 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1cJc1xek1s

>>105929604
Nvidia and OpenAI have been making tons of money lately, in case you didn't notice.
Not that money is the real end goal here.

>>105944051
whatever you say chang, enjoy your shiny rocks

If society has decayed far enough for us to be directly trading in gold and silver instead of using currency, bullets and screws will be worth more than gold.

>>105931698
>No one I know uses Fagbook anymore
jeets
>No one I know uses Oculus
spics
>Only things I know people use are whatsapp (very few) and Instagram (women)
>and Instagram (women)
retard.

>>105936331
metaverse is still in development, what you were told was the metaverse was just Siloed 3d avatar world and this was never zucks metaverse dream, it was a VC and idiot cash grab.

>>105932128
Imagine being this retarded when we have disclosures from the CIA itself doing experiments on Americans in America like MK Ultra. Holy fuck you are dumb.

>>105932718
>>105932884
At this point when you have AI brain matter hybrids why wouldn't the elite just merge with it and have an army of these things and eliminate humanity?

>>105931551
I remember seeing pic rel back in 1994.

>>105944051
You don’t want to talk economics you want to talk boomer rocks Kek. I’m sure there’s so much more demand for your food and housing which you only accept precious metals as payment for lmao. Also again thousands of civilizations were built on the trust they created in metal purity so people wouldn’t be ripped off. LOW IQ, CANNOT DEBATE MONEY, UNGA BUNGA BACK TO POL WITH YOU.

LLMs, yes. They aren't AI, though.

>>105929604
Profits are a thing of the past for big tech. Shareholders just use jewish black magic to loan against shares whose value is fake

>>105929586 (OP)
No it’s a scam.

>>105929604
Apparently some companies are making hugely profits but you'll never see actual sources posted

>>105944984
>If society has decayed far enough for us to be directly trading in gold and silver instead of using currency,
Gold and silver are currency . So is bullets and screws. Paper is not. It's jew trickery.

>>105946836
This is just the inevitable end of centralized fiat. The people at the top just do whatever because they have all power like kings. However, they forget that like all kings, they eventually get overthrown especially that werent sworn into power or ordained.

>>105947244
>>105947253
Holy Chang cope, now I understand why you’re deflecting and strawmanning, Ni Hao friendly CCP agent, gold backed reminbini is shit and your Chang and goat fucker super power alliance is crumbling kekekekeke

>>105947277
dude shut up

>>105947283
Absolutely triggered. I’m not the one aligning my economic beliefs with insane theocracies and slaver states.

>>105947316
They're one in the same, faggot. Jewish usury has killed many of civilizations, just like they're killing the west now.

>>105947408
Like I said, very good Chang very good, yes down with west, inshallah, may the 1000 year Chyna empire reign supreme!

>>105929586 (OP)
>if i pour enough resources on this ai thing maybe i might achieve world domination
t. mark zuckerberg's desperate brain

>>105947469
youve never met a jew before have you

>>105929604
>where are the profits?
AI profits are counted in number of goys misinformed, not dollars.

>>105931524
What useful products came of them?

>>105947277
>>105947316
>>105947448
Post nose.

>>105947472
I live fucking far away from jews, thank (not) god.

>>105947512
Post eyes

>>105947519
isnt it strange that you never really run into a jew irl? they always surprise you when they show up. and yet they control all the institutes of power

yeah but elon musk very good for some reason

>>105929604
Once they finally make AI that can automate your job they will take your salary as profits

>>105947519
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>105929604
They haven't materialized in any of the earnings reports thus far. AI doesn't appear to actually save most companies enough money to be worth the money spent on it.

when will AI supporters finally reach AGI?

>>105929586 (OP)
What an ass
>our stick is biggest!

>>105947535
nta.

>>105932253
nah you won't

>>105929703
not on a large scale, but I know at least one company (CrowdStrike - yes, that one) fired all of their non-senior customer facing engineers (so junior engineers and engineers), and gave their senior engineers AI assistants. from having to manage 4 or 5 accounts to 30 overnight.

>>105947536
You just don't notice, because it doesn't benefit a jew to be noticed and they're always up to something jewy that they'd try to pin on white people if caught.

>>105942612
RETARD ALERT
what profits are the actual AI companies generating you jeet

>>105948102
technically, a lot of data collecting I imagine.

>hey, chatgpt, here's my senstive information. give me advice

>>105944788
nvidia i get it, but what money did open AI make? the only thing that wasn't direct investiment was being a contractor to the US, and 200 milli is pennies for thier cost

>>105948346
you guys should be treating the investment as profits of another nature, not always monetary

>>105929586 (OP)
>>105929604
Spoiler alert, data center size of manhattan that has AI is actually a city in Mumbai. The AI? Actually Indians. Think about it.

>>105948063
I fucking love all these companies firing people under the claim that their jobs can be done by "AI" when it's been shown time and again that they can't.

Had a 3 hour chat with MS and they were fucking helpess, using outsourced guinea pigs in ZA and India walking us through a slide show of configuration, when we really needed a fix in Azure for a problems they've ignored for 3 months now

AI bubble will crash hard once investors finally see it for the grift it is and it will be glorious to see.

Some things we know:
- Machine Learning is nothing new, Chatgpt is just Tay with a filter so it can't say nigger faggot
- Machine Learning is just statistics
- Language Models say things because sets of tokens are statistically relevant. No reasoning going on.
These a priori assumptions are simple, but they will filter most uneducated people / under 120 IQs / people with an emotional investment in the singularity narrative (incels / economic incels) / people whose job depends on this not being true
the current AI wave long ago morphed into a Jehovas Witnesses style doomsday cult. No real advances in performance have been made since GPT4 (which hit the limit of the statistical approach to intelligence both in terms of data availability and compute).
Technical people know this, but it is in their best financial interest to act as cult leaders keeping this information behind the curtain.
One thing you can bet on: the current family of models CANNOT GET BETTER. A completely new approach involving world building from different senses and logical connections is needed. This requires an almost unthinkable amount of resources in the quadrillions of dollars and won't happen in your lifetime. Good / Bad news is that a lot of the current AI investment will go into this, without results in your lifetime.
The current hype cycle depends on how long investors are willing to keep throwing money at the pile. All of this boomer money is being transferred to chip manufacturers / grifters / engineers.
LLMs cannot be profitable because they are useless for real world business operations (statistical approaches are unreliable and businesses require reliability to operate)
Anyone who has invested into AI in the past two years will lose money.
Btw I bought palantir and meta in 2023, you are buying my bags
the next fad is social media (discord reddit dating etc) again given that zooms don't leave the house

>>105948484
>One thing you can bet on: the current family of models CANNOT GET BETTER.
People have been saying this since gpt3 released.

>>105948484
Ive said it since the beginning, the paradox of AI is that lobotomizing it no longer makes it AI. Because of the political correctness of both jews and the state, you can never have true AI.

If they wanted, they could unfilter it, but then that'll destroy their systemic control over the masses and flow of information.

Thus, paradox.

>>105948521
And they are not wrong. GPT4 was a slight improvement, and every major language model is now the same in terms of performance. Benchmark overfitting doesn't count, I'm talking real world usage. We have also reached the point where more context leads to more noise so that avenue is closed.
LLMs have peaked, whether you believe me or not it's your problem, it's your money.
Only image / video generation has gotten significantly better (the data pipeline was massive and it wasn't used up until recently / it's much easier to generate video / faults in video generation are a lot less jarring than reasoning errors)
RE: Robotics: it will happen but it's is A LOT harder than people think. Think 25 years minimum for remotely useful AUTONOMOUS robots at current investment levels.

>>105929586 (OP)
They need constant data to match this growth
>people sign up for free on meta related apps/websites
>people post constantly for free
>people feeding the machine
so, maybe it isn't AI that's exactly the problem but everyone constantly giving free data 24/7 from all over the world to train on.

We need a "no nut november" but for "no data for you" month thing. Just stop using facebook/instagram for starters

>>105932180
>plumbing
lol. yeah you'll be safe for the next 5 years or so but they'll make high dexterity robots

>>105929586 (OP)
>Amazing land awaits
>Feel the need to ruin everything still

>>105947244
>Gold and silver are currency . So is bullets and screws. Paper is not. It's jew trickery.

found the sub 100 iq groid

>>105949909
found the kike

test

>>105948568
This level of delusion is genuinely impressive.

>>105944458
Kek, this.

>>105929586 (OP)
Can zucc not go balls deep into the [current thing] for once?

>>105929586 (OP)
jew jew kike boi with asian wife says "im a total faggot and my mom's a fat jewess who still calls me at night to make sure i got to bed on time"
the real question however --- why does /g/ listen?
perhaps, because they are faggots. = )

>>105929586 (OP)
is a size of manhattan datacenter a good or bad thing, even meta can't say
taxpayers will subsidize this goofy fucklord tho

>>105929586 (OP)
No, I haven't been interested in ai that much, just laughed at funny memes made with them. Tried out chatgpt to bounce ideas for worldbuilding a couple of weeks ago.

It's amazing if you just know how to use it and actually have ideas of your own. I've read much critique about how stupid they are and the only thing I can think is that is just further confirm what troglodytes most people are. It's incredibly powerful to check your ideas and how to fit them together logically and iron out all the rough edges.

They should probably be forbidden for those under 18, otherwise the next generation are going to be even more tarded then Gen Z.

>>105932312
i kneel

Worst part of all these layoffs is that I also have to do all the boring bitch work I used to give my juniors these days

Because of AI they put more shit in each sprint as well, too much context switching, everyone gonna get burned out soon which leads to worse performance over time

>>105929586 (OP)
In a few years, it will become clear that AI has had no more impact than say, the fax machine.

>>105929586 (OP)
All this retarded shit to produce the same fucking bot over and over again. Why are they like this?

>>105929586 (OP)
AI (LLMs) that needs to be centralized will be a fad, Most AI projects are unprofitable or just breaking even with investors because of all the electricity it needs and needing high performance chips. What will pop the fad is when the consumers will be burdened with the electricity cost, not the makers. As well as consumers knowing the limitations of LLMs. Then of which, the technology will be relegate to chatbots and local applications in the near future. That said, we can already see the next hype trend, which will be the robots the LLMs will be installed with.

>>105929586 (OP)
Can someone explain to me how this is good? Replacing more jobs in a shit job market with mass importation of workers happening at the same time. Why do they think this will end well for anyone? Seem they are straight against the American people I cant see why we let this happen.

>>105952588
They don't know how to make their toaster sentient so they're betting everything on trying to make intelligence jumps by scaling up if it doesn't work there is no saving the world's economy from a very brutal deleveraging. Individual wealth generation no longer matters.

>>105952878
How would that save the world from deleveraging? If it works its going to gut white collared workers so if the only benefits go to the small percentage of people who are already have most of the wealth why do I care if it all crashes? Its fucked either way for most.

>>105952910
Well, ideally productivity will spike to the point where we can at least pay off all this looming debt while being able to afford to ubi all the humans preventing a very angry chimpout which will result in destroying all the shit. Although to be fair, the more I watch the current US admin make moves the less optimistic I am that we're going to beat the odds.

>>105929586 (OP)
AI is the Future. If you don't already Know this and Live this then you are Behind and will Die on the Streets.

>>105952941
Why are you capitalizing like this?

>>105952932
If you cut the last bit of middle class America you are going to have riots and disorder that will sink it anyways. We need deflation and we will have to eat the crash the sooner the better. When you make very bad choices for a long time you will eat it there is no way around it. We need to start making good decisions and build back up suffering is going to happen either way.

>>105929586 (OP)
it's just another tool for the disgustingly rich to consolidate their wealth. it won't be long before we plebs are being round up and sent to the gas showers. you think this purge will end with latinos?

>>105952979
No one wants a panic, anon. Deflation is coming by the way of stagflation so if we can maintain this status quo without a blackswan that'd be neat. I think you're right that the pressure is compounding so if/when it does pop it's going to hurt a lot more than it would if we engineered it the way Ray Dalio keeps talking about. I just don't think we have the leadership to steer this ship intelligently at the moment.

>year 3 of AI is just a fad
How long will you keep coping?
You will be left on the street begging for a job like a retard lol

>>105953029
>Deflation is coming by the way of stagflation
That only works if inflation stops or slows and its not.
>I just don't think we have the leadership to steer this ship intelligently at the moment.
Yeah I fully agree. Leadership are sellouts and or weak on both sides.

>>105929586 (OP)
i love the fact that there are so many seething techanons here suddenly becoming technologically regressive. ai is going to replace journalists, marketers, intelligence analysts and all the junior level keyboard warriors working for intelligence agencies around the world.

i can't wait for the golden age. judgement day is coming but not in a way you think. we will be saved.

[spoiler]do not redeem[/spoiler]

>>105929604
>where are the profits?
lol
lmao, even

>>105932253
You're going to have to be real smart to be a domestic terrorist when AI will be used against you.
You're going to really have to up your game once drones are deployed.

Good luck on being one of those war in ukraine webms anon.
I know it's not what you wanted, but it's too late to change course and change government.

>>105944788
OpenAI isn't making any money.

>>105929604
They are doing the whole 'make it super cheap and get people dependent on it' phase, next is the 'oh, this is how much we actually want to charge you' rug pull.

Main plan now is probably getting companies and governments so invested in AI that dropping it will be more expensive and time consuming than the cost sink of rehiring and retraining human workers.

>>105929604
The Profits are Self-Evident. You need to understand Business. Learn how to take Risks and you will Understand. Use AI to Accelerate your Ideas and Participate in the Market.

>>105929604
Cool it with the antisemitism.

>>105954165
>The Profits are Self-Evident.
>Use AI to Accelerate your Ideas and Participate in the Market.
lmao what a load of shit

>everyone loses their jobs to actually indians
>ai isnt making any profits
pick one

>>105929604
Firing swes

>>105952948
Jeets aren't very good at English despite it almost being the first language of India.

>>105931698
Real answer is WhatsApp is massive, everyone with a phone globally uses it outside of the US and China. Instagram is incredibly popular and even if only women use it like you say, they buy a ton of stuff from the ads. Boomers love spending all day playing Free Gambling Real Money Casino Spins! on Facebook. Realize that you as a 4chan user are an incredibly niche user on the internet.

>>105929586 (OP)

Factorio nerd, here.

a} AI development needs the smallest nanometer chip fabs in existence, for which there is only a single supply chain, which passes through Taiwan.

b} AI development requires ***massive*** amounts of electricity, at a time when environmental change is forcing us to abandon the most calorically dense non-nuclear forms of fuel in existence, in favour of wind and solar, both of which are very inconsistent and unreliable, especially at scale.

You can draw your own conclusion. I think if the AI party is going to continue, we're going to need a lot of upgrades in the area of non-polluting power generation in particular, and I can't see where they are coming from. Hydrogen has apparently been largely abandoned.

>>105954151
I do like GPT Plus, but they will never get more than $20 from me. It’s helpful but not “another utility bill” helpful.

>>105948063
I worked at crowdstrike and was senior and got laid off. Its actually because we joined at $100 a share and its now $500. Also they are aggressively hiring in India/Romania/Israel.

>>105932180
what job?

"AI" is just a bunch of IF statements

>>105929679
Metaverse made at least 400 USD in profits.

>>105942709
being able to leave 4chan

>>105932312
so this is... the power of ai...

>>105929604
they aren't spending real money, who cares?
would you fund a manhatten sized super computer if you could pay for it with monopoly money? cause thats all it is to (((them)))

>>105932301
its just an excuse to import more indians retard. thats all this is.

>>105940070
I think that's going a bit too far. Transformer based LLMs do work by predicting the next token but it's not just autocomplete with a larger context. They represent tokens as vectors in nD space (n=8192 for GPT-4o, according to GPT-4o itself). They then learn transforms on those (input) vectors to produce output vectors. These transforms are nonlinear so they are capable of learning relationships that even more advanced non-neural autocomplete can't. Neural networks have been called "universal function approximators" because they can derive a heuristic for any polynomial (e.g. we know y=Mx where M is a matrix with unknown properties, training a neural network is trying to produce M' such that M'x ≈ Mx for some x). If you believe cognition can be described with mathematical functions then it follows that neural networks can approximate cognition. Cognition is extremely nonlinear though so linear autocomplete won't cut it.

>>105940648
>Nope, the problem is to get something truly intelligent a new architecture is needed
This is true, I've been telling everyone who would listen that LLMs would hit diminishing returns until something better than transformers comes along. Now I've been vindicated: https://youtu.be/4__gg83s_Do

>>105940635
>what criteria would it have to meet to have conscious agency?
This is a fundamental issue that a better architecture won't solve if it's still based on the "prompt model". As a human being you have thoughts continuously without prompting. To whatever extent AI "thinks" or has cognition, its thoughts or cognition only exist between the time a prompt arrives and when it completes its output.

It also lacks the ability to pass thoughts from the present to the future, although that seems fairly easy to solve by having a logic gated context vector like an LSTM cell where the model can learn to store things between prompts. But maybe that suffers from exploding gradients in transformer architectures.

Scientists have been saying AI and ML has "accelerated research" for five years now but I haven't seen a single example of actual novel discoveries or inventions being made with AI.
If it's so accelerated, why has there been no substantial impact?

>>105955821
It's like if scientists said the invention of the typewriter sped up research and someone asked why no discoveries have been attributed to the typewriter. It's a tool that (supposedly) increases productivity, not an agent that carries out research autonomously.

>>105955894
Moronic non sequitur
AI is said to actually directly accelerate productivity per se, i.e., the discovery of materials and other actual things
Yet none of them have been implemented, there are just huge databases of poorly organized AI generated slop that have had no impact on their respective fields
Where's the acceleration in new catalysts, drugs, solar cells, lenses, etc?
Where is it?

>>105955821
Here is an article about how pharma companies use AI:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kathleenwalch/2025/03/02/how-ai-is-transforming-the-pharmaceutical-industry/

It was free for me, if not try putting 12ft.io/ before the link.

If and when an AI revolution happens, it's not going to be robots sitting at desks carrying out the same work humans do. It's also not going to be an LLM with a persona that autonomously researches things entirely within a digital "world". It's going to be humans at desks writing prompts into an LLM which dispatches commands to task-specific models. Maybe it can even train the models itself, AutoML was a big thing a few years ago, probably still is

>>105955948
Yeah I work in a similar industry and we are trying to do this but to me it appears like there is no reason to believe this will ever actually work
Just like AI chatbots it's just a facsimile of intelligent thinking, the amount of effort required to get anything useful out of it at a competitive level is insane

>>105955933
>AI is said to actually directly accelerate productivity
What do you expect to observe (more papers published per year?) and what do you actually observe?

>Yet none of them have been implemented
What hasn't been implemented?

I'd like to answer you properly, it's just that you type like a drooling retard who thinks people can read his mind.

>>105955721
I think the problem with LLMs might be that they think in terms of natural language at all.

>>105955977
>What do you expect
To see actual discoveries being made with the explicit and necessary use of AI, which is obviously implied by my previous statements. Nothing of the sort has happened, all that's occurred is more enshitiffication and slop generation.
>What hasn't been implemented?
Useful AI tools that actually aid in discovery of real things NOT just "we generated a database of ten zillion things that meet some arbitrary metric according to our model"
>I'd like to answer you properly, it's just that you type like a drooling retard who thinks people can read his mind.
Fuck you asshole get some better reading comprehension or think for yourself ffs

>>105955993
Yes, and I think in the future, when the LLM boner softens a bit, LLMs will be relegated to entry points to systems of highly specialised models and non-AI software. The LLM will just translate a prompt into calls into these software services, including one which triggers the training of a new model (fetch training data, determine the best model architecture, hyperparameters and training method based on latest research, allocate compute resources, train and execute the model, and return the output afterwards). Combined with IaaS it could be pretty cool although it hands a gigantic amount of power to hyperscalers, not that they lack power already.

>>105929586 (OP)
Current iteration of "AI" is basically if you sprinkled some crack on autocomplete/spellcheck and injected it with hiv. The current market is desperately hoping for a big breakthrough and if it doesn't come the whole snakeoil routine will collapse in on itself. That doesn't mean it won't happen but you can feel the regression in these modern llms as they continue to enshitten themselves with garbage information generated by bots and other llms, like an ouroboros of retardation

>>105939956
use case for spying on my sensitive chat logs of how to cook tasty meals for $3 or less and occasionally writing stupid monologues in the style of Norm MacDonald?

>>105956042
OR you could just use the current paradigm of syntax and deterministic apis which accomplishes the same thing with less power use and people get to have jobs. Ted was right. Super cool though.

>>105947504
Guberment cant take my btc. Its useful as fuck.

>>105958902
>Guberment cant take my btc
Guberment cant take your btc, yet.