https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/07/msg00132.html

This reads like its a maintainer upset he has to act as a janny
Can you blame them?

Everyone is so whiny.

Once again, 4chan gets it wrong. Debian “devs” are cattle-whipping an innocent dev and forcing him to waste hours on a useless do-nothing package that no one has ever used.

>>105947219 (OP)
A fortune fork is something you retards can handle, and even make some more deranged offensive quotes

>>105947302
Welcome to the "open-source community"

>>105947375
Fortune should probably just be deleted. It is ancient boomer humor with no actual use. Remove it completely and nothing of value would be lost.

Why are they always like this? Apparently no at Debian has heard of the US Civil Rights Act.

>>105947392
The dominant group isn't white males though. The dominant group is Jews. Does this mean anti-semitism can not exist? Someone should actually ask him this and see how he responds.

>>105947389
You speak like a machine, should definitely loosen up and learn to have fun

>>105947405
Actually white people are the globohomo faggot race and you're just coping.

>>105947392
I fucking hate this French guy, Antoine Le Gonidec.
He must be baiting, right? I can’t believe someone wrote that nonsense unironically. Especially when discussing silly thing like `fortune`.

>>105947436
Why would he be joking? SJWs have been openly saying this in public for over 10 years.

>>105947392
They're insane and they got away with it for a long time because there hadn't been a legal precedent to refer to. But the Supreme Court has recently ruled on this, it's not just an opinion anymore. Reverse racism is a real legal argument and there is no legal basis for additional requirements for something so absurd as "enforcing an oppression" or the "dominate group" having any meaning in the context.
>On June 5, 2025, the United States Supreme Court issued a unanimous decision holding that so-called “reverse discrimination” claims—discrimination claims brought by a member of the majority race, gender, or other protected characteristic—are not subject to heightened standards of proof.

>>105947424
The question wasn't who is the globohomo faggot race. That is in fact white people. The question was which group is dominant, and that is Jews. By this fellow's logic, anti-jewish oppression cannot exist because you definitionally cannot oppress the dominant group. So I restate my question. Given his worldview, is it possible for anti-semitism to exist? If someone makes a Jew joke, is this by definition not anti-semitic because it targets the dominant group and the dominant group cannot be oppressed? Someone seriously ask him. I am interested in how people like this compartmentalize their thinking.

>>105947445
>Reverse racism is a real legal argument
They say that "reverse racism" doesn't legally exist. It's just all racism under the US Civil Rights act.

Globohomo basically decriminalized systemic discrimination, but it's getting rolled back: https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-should-know-about-dei-related-discrimination-work

>>105947450
Possibly, due to the war in Gaza the Jews have been downgraded on the progressive stack.

>>105947424
Antoine Le Gonide must have lived a privileged life. Shielded from the evil that his politics have brought into France and EU in general.
If you live in a nicer neighborhood or outside the larger cities, you probably would never see the infestation.

>With the hope of being able to give you a hand as I'd really like to keep both the italian and the sicilian *offensive* fortunes package in Debian, I went peeking at the package and, unless I'm completely missing something, the second offensive italian fortune says that women's "no"s should be interpreted as "yes", while the third one explicitly calls for violence on women [1]. Like, it literally says women should be beaten on a regular basis. I'm afraid I can't help you here, sorry.
>[1] https://sources.debian.org/src/fortunes-it/2.16-1/testi/italia-o/
I didn't know Italian jokes were that funny.

>>105947457
Right it's not legally defined, but it is still a legitimate description of what is going on

>>105947508
Everyone is so brainrotted they can't just understand that racial discrimination = racism. Instead everything is racism, but also nothing is racism.

This wasn't confusing when they wrote the law.

>>105947392
Fr*nch people really confound my attempts to be unprejudiced

>>105947392
>>105947310
Jfc, i don't care specifically for the fortune program but the more stuff like this i see the more my burning hatred for these larpers grows, like i desire to genuinely give them free tickets for helicopter rides.

*laughs* what a fucking nigger

is 'fortune' in the official UNIX spec?

We don't call troonix and troonixers for nothing

>>105947409
>ancient boomer shitposts must be part of the operating system forever!
Into the trash it goes.

>>105947219 (OP)
>>105947310
>>105947392
TL;DR: The maintainer is a chud polshit that sperged out and got into a political argument defending racism and homophobia.

>>105947389
>ancient boomer humor with no actual use
then preserve it for the future

>>105947579
>We don't call troonix and troonixers for nothing
Nobody calls them that except people so disgusting and retarded that their very existence makes a compelling argument to restart the American eugenics program so that their genes are not allowed into the future.

>>105947589
You don't have to keep it in the OS forever to do that. If you think fortune is worth preserving, nothing stops you from archiving the contents.

>>105947219 (OP)
>muh debian package
Shut the fuck up. No, really. Just shut the FUCK UP.
No one cares about "muh native packages" at this point. It's all about Flatpak, baby. Not just Flatpak, it's all about FLATHUB, baby!

Here is what you morons don't understand.
Flathub won.
That's just it...Flathub fucking won.
What's so hard to understand about this, huh? Flathub won. So stop making distro packages. Flatpak and Flathub are the one true package distribution method.

>>105947392
>Apparently no at Debian has heard of the US Civil Rights Act.
the hardest thing is getting amerifucks to understand the meaning of major antilaws like civil rights, that destroys civil rights, and divorce, that transforms marriage into direct male slavery

>you must remove this because your package shows offensive content to people who specifically pass in the "show me offensive content" flag

>>105947219 (OP)
I don’t get it. I thought Trump won and everyone can be racist again now? Like can’t this dev just make a big deal out of it, so that the Trump administration take away their non-profit status, deport those who are in the US, and perhaps even jail?

>>105947601
henry ford included a free copy of the protocols in every model t. dodge sued to force him to only pay his employees according to what would make him the most money, arguing that corporations have fiduciary duty to only follow business plans approved of by the jews. so now fortune, an irrelevant boomer package, is deleted, for corporate puritanism

oopsie doopsie

>>105947640
>Like can’t this dev just make a big deal out of it, so that the Trump administration take away their non-profit status, deport those who are in the US, and perhaps even jail?
Sorry. Best I can do is deport people for being critical of Israel.

>>105947302
That's white leftists for you.

>>105947528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pY-0JfEdLY

>>105947392
how many more decades do I have to wait until people grow up from this brainrot? or will I read garbage like this for the rest of my life?

>>105947219 (OP)
>>105947310
>I did that by removing tens of sexist, homophobic and racist jokes
>that were not in the offensive section, and had been there at least
>since 2004.

>The ones that were just offensive but not funny I removed, those that
>had some humoristic value I kept in the offensive section. I did
>remove plenty of stuff from the offensive section.

This faggot gave an inch, and is absolutely shocked when they take a mile.
He already deemed himself the arbiter of what is funny or offensive, and yet...

>1. Can the community team force me to remove a package, even though I
>did not violate the COC and they did not receive any complaints?

>3. Can they say something is offensive even without an actual person
>being offended?

>7. Can someone who is not offended by something ask to drop it because
>it could offend some other person (even if this other person might not
>exist)?

He cannot conceive that someone could want to remove fortunes that one finds to be unfunny and offensive, despite that being exactly what he's been doing for the past 2 years.
I would love to see some of these "just offensive but not funny" fortunes be preserved, and even re-added in a fork.

>>105947392
>that didn't happen
>and if it did, it wasn't that bad
>and if it was, that's not a big deal
>and if it is, that's not my fault
>and if it was, I didn't mean it
>and if I did, you deserved it
The Narcissist's Prayer


Libshits are religious cultists who believe in shit like original sin. The disingenuous fucks were only ever upset because they weren't the ones writing the rules. It's all just one big power grab by totalitarian freaks.

>>105947750
That’s the hilarious part. He’s not woke enough, so now he’s a chud, a Trump supporter.
This is how people get radicalized.

>>105947310
I would just ignore them if I was him, the fuck are they gonna do? fire him? it's not even a job anyways so who gives a fuck.
there is no such thing as offensive jokes, only subhumans who can't take them, we should remove the slobs who hate the jokes instead of the jokes.

>>105947864
Then fortune will be gone from debian, and most likely all other distros. Except chud ones like Artix.

>>105947441
>Look up Patricia Bidol-Padva
>Jew
Was not surprised. Only a jew would have the gall to redefine the word "racist" with a racist definition.

So when are /g/tards forking Fortunes: Sneedacity Edition?

Who cares? It's just big corp schizophrenia. All big corps are scared of of gaming words/Opinions that night cause retards to dogpile and sue them.

Do you honestly believe the people in charge care personally about the Curt feelings of some filthy minority or mentally insane men who believe they're women? It's all just for show and to keep retards occupied.

>>105947592
Holy shit this troon is seething.

Technolo/g/y was starting to become not fun and predictable for a while, so I'm glad there is some new drama for us all to digest.

Mmm yes, fortunes is a very important package. This will require much thought and debate from our top men.

Can someone explain what the actual point of contention is? Some guy was editorializing a program before putting it in Debian repos, or the developer was editorializing, and then some outsiders got mad, or did the people making the program get mad?

>>105947392
I wonder if the germans used that as an excuse during WWII?
>The jews are actually in control of the entire world, therefore it is right and indeed our duty to oppress them and put them into concentration camps

>>105949246
Looks like someone took over the fortune program, and over some time has moved around or deleted entirely some 'jokes'.
Now Debian wants to get rid of the entire offensive category?
There must be an easier way than consulting the mailing list.

>>105949249

>>105947392
a joke is not a violation of any law in this country.
this is your brain on sweden.

>>105947392

Just dox this sjw faggot and get it over with.

>>105947592
Unironically the "trans"-movement encouraging subjectible people to mutilate themselves sexually _is_ the eugenics program.

>>105949249

https://youtu.be/Ly1cPYSqgR4

>>105947219 (OP)
The first problem is listening to them at all. I would just ignore such retards. You give them an inch, they will take a mile. If I had an open source project I maintain I would just ignore them. They can scoff, bitch and moan however much they like. Satisfying someones tantrums are irrelevant to any project.
>>105947310
These are all rhetorical questisons and the answer is no.
>>105947392
Who gives them the authority to redefine the term to fit their retarded worldview? How much mental gimnastics they do to come to such exclusion. They interpret everything as if there was some hidden meaning and the conclusion is always aligning with their retarded deceitful philosophy.

>>105947436
there is no reason to hate a retard. They are pitiful. You should be sorry for them (for being mentally handicapped).

>>105947605
what is this flatpak ? link ?

>>105947219 (OP)
Are older versions of fortune archived anywhere?

>>105947219 (OP)
i guess fortune will live on in bsd. linux will continue he odd dei nu-unix path. i never thought someone would get their feelings hurt over a fortune.

>>105947375
I already wrote one. It reads out of the source fortune files instead of the compiled ones.

>>105947392
i want to strangle him

>>105949807
Same jokes every time, I got a bingo again!

>>105947375
need tummy

>>105950122
http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/fortunes-off/

>>105951671
How do I know which versions are the based ones?

>>105947389

>>105947219 (OP)
Why is he working on a useless project? Nobody uses that shit. It was funny 10 years ago.

>>105949682
271304, mostly from typhus.
>total 271,304 cases of which 52,389 in Auschwitz

>>105947392
These insufferable, narcissistic cowards are full of malice and hatred, so they have to twist the definition of such things to absolve themselves.

>>105947219 (OP)
I dont see an issue in putting the offensive fortunes in a separate package.

>>105947219 (OP)
We need to recover that version from archive, before he removed "tens of dozens" of good funny humor initially.

>>105947424
>Antoine Le GOONidec

>>105947748
This kind of people like pointing out flaws in other people, policing them and showcasing how good themselves are. They'll always be there. Here the angle is sexism/racism etc but it van be something else. It can be the neighbour reminding you you need to paint your door a certain color. The coworker that point out you're not a team player for not doing this particular procedure. The arrogant cyclist.The proud mother. Etc.
There is some people that want to protect the minorities without the secret agenda to virtue signal or dominate other people.
So it's not about being leftist, is about being a self rightous asshole.

>>105947219 (OP)
>I became the maintainer of a package composed entirely of jokes and removed all the jokes
>wtf why are you removing the package for being offensive
This is just pottery of the highest order.

>>105947445
>Reverse racism
One of the most rstarded bullshit terms I've ever heard, it exists only because it directly implies the term "racism" is an eipithet that solely solely describes prejiduce by whites against other races. Who invented this shit in the first place?

>>105947748
Pretty soon islam will take over and you'll get to exchange this type of brainrot for a different kind

>>105947375
Shiori sex

>>105947375
Shioli would never tell an offensive joke. She's seiso.
>>105949231
I think it's more that because an HR lady with rainbow hair might be offended it needs to be hard purged from the FTP mirrors and retconned from ever being installable. Hell, they'll probably force a shell script in a kernel package to crawl all attached block devices and delete any files containing bad texts, so that they can be sure that fortune is definitely uninstalled properly.
Anybody who ever apt-get install -ed fortune should be forced to write an apology blogpost on twitter for being a chud.