>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer XV271U M3, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>105940279

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>105943041

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super specs: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

Why doesn't pcpartpicker have any ddr4 memory listed?

>>105952708
yeah, i just looked at the listings and 5700x3d is overpriced too
dirt cheap mobo and ram are just going to be offset by it
maybe it's worth fishing for some intel bundle since they've been generous lately

>>105952639
I've had some comments on bottlenecks before and some things are slow or have gotten slower over time like file transfer and basic web-browsing. I don't really play "old" games, I just mostly play indie stuff and not the latest normalfag shit.
Do you guys recommend upgrading over speccing out a completely new PC? This PC is probably 10 years old at the least so in my head I'm thinking of natural degradation of parts. Am I overworrying? Should I just look for some better ram and a new CPU/GPU?
>>105952642
Nah I'd rather stick with a desktop. I get what you mean though with being limited on what I could grab "cheap". I'll copypaste this list for sure though, thanks.

A while back I was asking about graphics card upgrades and was suggested the following: rtx2060, rx580, 1660ti. Any thoughts on upgrading with one of them?

>9800X3D build working fine for months
>suddenly won't boot
>have to flash UEFI via flashback
>boots but won't take EXPO
>refuses to boot again and need to reflash
>boot to Windows with UEFI defaults
>restart and set EXPO
>boot to Windows again
>restart and set curve optimizer -20
>back to normal after an hour of messing around
Why is AM5 like this?

>>105952806
Which motherboard?

>>105952806
i bet you didnt even discharge it and use windows hybrid sleep

>>105952823
Asrock B650I Lightning
>>105952826
Nah, I disabled those sleep states in the UEFI
Turned off hibernate in Windows and I hold Shift during shutdown to get the true shutdown

>>105952806
let me guess
assrock but somehow "forgot" to name it on the post

>>105952834
you can get a "true" shutdown by just turning fastboot off

>>105952690 (OP)
Need a monitor for graphics design/3d modelling & texturing/photoshop...etc.
I did some research and narrowed it down to LG UltraFine, Dell UltraSharp, and Asus ProArt. There are other brands and models but I don't know much about them (suggestions are welcome)

LG
>27UP850K-W
>27UP550N-W
Dell
>U2724D
>U2724DE
Asus
>PA27JCV
>PA279CRV
>PA279CV

Any recommendations? Size looking for is 27" but if there are better then the above mentioned at a bigger size I may be able to accommodate.

>>105952840
Tried searching for this and found that since I already disabled hibernate, Windows doesn't even give me the option to turn on/off fast boot and it's just off now.

RDNA4 is a total dud, but the Nvidia card you actually want.

>>105952690 (OP)
I've been thinking of getting a 5070 since it's 80$ cheaper than the 9070 in my cunt. I've seen the comparisons and both of them are great except for my doubts that a lot of people complain about nvidia drivers and fake frames whatever. Is this just shill nonsense or is it true?

>>105952760
Ah I see that makes sense, well for me personally I think it would kind of suck to put together a beat down system that's already halfway to the end of it's life.
I think another possibility is to make a frankenstein with your parts combined with new ones and slowly build a nicer system over time. Start with the motherboard and CPU, since those are the beating heart of a system that everything else plugs into. Get a nicer than you normally would consider set of those and then you can use some of your current parts while you save up to get more new parts. It will be much easier to plug in random parts onto your nice motherboard and you won't have to worry about having to tear the whole thing apart when you want to upgrade.

>>105952860
most "nvidia driver bad" is a schizo spamming the message repeatedly
frame gen is a great value add feature that amd wish they could manage to implement properly

5070 is the best value gpu currently since 9070 xt doesnt exist at msrp

>>105952860
DLSS is very good

>>105952860
Works on my 5070 Ti machine
I rarely use frame generation though because my 1440p monitor maxes out at 144Hz and I can get more than enough frames out of just DLSS super resolution
Getting a 9070 also means you're locked to FSR4 which (currently) has less support and doesn't match DLSS4

>>105952868
That makes a whole lot of sense. As you can probably guess, I haven't upgraded my computer often. One of the few benefits to being poor was learning computer repair so I can put all this together myself without having to fret. And perform basic maintenance. It's nice having a handheld air compressor to keep the insides clean.

>>105952848
Go with the best-reviewed one and the one with the best warranty.
I think Dell has the best customer service reputation out of the three.

>>105952860
Driver issues aren't as bad as people make them out to be, especially since NVIDIA's been releasing updates almost on a bi-weekly basis.
DLSS isn't perfect, but it's the better upscaler out there.
Frame generation, I'm not fully convinced, but this isn't a deal breaker considering Intel & AMD are also developing their own FG feature.

>>105952834
i have issues with ram re-training on my X670E/7800X3D platform despite having MCR on unless i completely drain all power from the system to ground by pressing the power button with the psu switched off at the back each power cycle. 60 second POST times with warm restart/start, or sometimes 5 mins+, or just hangs indefinitely.

However without fail if I send all the power to ground before restarting, it POSTs and boots in 10 fucking seconds without fail. I suspected windows hybrid sleep to be at fault but it still does the same shit without it on. Maybe it's fast boot idk

I accidentally touched the thermal paste on my heatsink when I took it out the box, not realizing it was already applied to it.
It's so over bros...

>>105952950
c'est fini
junk the whole computer

>>105952944
its happened a few times to me aswell, my mobo will sort of 'forget' the ram settings, and will spend a long time relearning them, but then the pc will perform as if nothing happened and restarting it doesnt repeat the process.

9950x3D + x870 msi tomahawk (its a refurbished mobo).

>>105952834
>Asrock B650I Lightning
Sister... Thots and prayers.

>>105952860
>Is this just shill nonsense or is it true?
-The driver issues existed only on reddit.
-DLSS framegen is not comparable to fsr and lossless, and is actually usable when you're gpu limited. MFG I've never even seen it have any more issues than 2x. Even in path tracing the 5070 is fast enough you could/should always be using framegen.
-FSR4 if we're being realistic is probably as good as it's ever going to be.
-9070 is supposed to be $50 cheaper than the 5070
>vram
16gb on AMD is not 16 on Nvidia, you'd be getting more but it's not as much as you would think it is, so if that's genuinely a concern you go to the 5070ti/5090/super cards.

>>105952806
lots of ram types dont work with EXPO at all, i don't use it, i use XMP, EXPO is experimental and will need a few more years to mature i bet.

>>105952995
Ahh, Windows Sleep mode, buggy, broken and causing problems since 2009.

>>105952995
fugg

>>105952950
This is a good thing, your DNA will fuse with the machine spirit and you with both grow stronger.

I use standard sleep for both Win 10 and 11 and have never had problems caused by it. Power loss is power loss, I have a UPS precisely to mitigate that nowadays.

>>105952983
it doesn't make any sense considering that draining the system power completely fixes it

it should be the other way around

glad I only buy ASUS ROG STRIX motherboards

>>105953047
for me, i just let it tinker away for awhile, it eventually restarted the ~3x times it happened since i built my rig a few months ago. I turn off all the bullshit winblows crap though, sleep mode has never functioned reliably or correctly for me, ever, in any windows OS, so its not that for me.

I haven't tried power cycling, it hasnt happened in weeks now anyway.

>>105952860
>a lot of people
You need to learn how to observe and distinguish the difference between actual problems and continuous propaganda. If it doesn't repeat enough to become mainstream for such a mainstream product, then it literally isn't a problem. Someone somewhere did something really stupid with their setup and thinks its the driver's fault. This would be different if Nvidia GPUs were a niche product that only reached single-digit-percents of users.

>>105952860
their current 576.88 drivers have improved since their panic bug fixes 2-3 months ago which broke a lot of random things like shader compilation in many games and gpu temperature monitoring
fwiw i never had black screening issues whatsoever since the launch 572.83 drivers but I also only have a single monitor which reduces the chances of such bugs

>>105953052
>*BLOCKS YOUR PATH*

>>105953157
just don't take out and put back in your graphics card 100 times

>>105953203
why dont you retarded jeet shills run your responses through ai to fix your broken english before responding

i got my newphew a pinata filled with candy instead of a video game for his birthday

>>105953219
does he have some frustrating psychological condition that makes you hate him

>>105953214
every accusation is a confession

>>105953219
why did you do that Oscar?

>>105953224
did i mess up?

>>105953234
i thought he would like it

maybe i should get him a game to be safe

>>105953242
give him a sick machete to cut it up with, take it back off him when he's broken it up tho.

>>105953242
>i thought a boy would like some fucking candy instead of a video game
Holy shit a real girl on the internet. Please be in london.

>>105953355
his name is Oscar and he's a cute boy from Kentucky

Will I regret using a 9600x with a 5070ti at 4k?

>>105953365
no, you wouldn't notice the difference between a 9600x and 9800X3D

Who the hell uses windows in 2025?

>>105953365
no. 12-core 10800x3d with 144mb L3 will be much better anyway if you ever need more performance

>>105953365
>16GB or less
>4k

>>105953410
I wonder if theres some tests you could make where you disable some of the L3 cache and see how much the cpu actually needs for the perf boosts
surely it doesnt scale infinitely

>>105953416
I don't play enough vidya these days to justify spending the same price of my new build just for a 5090 alone. I had a 5090 and didn't even play games for weeks at a time...

I bought and built a 9800x3d system 2 weeks ago with an asrock mobo and had no clue there were issues until now. Should I just go ahead and buy a new mobo before my cpu fries? My Bios is already updated to 3.30. Fuck.

Is 5090 a bad purchase?

>>105953451
have you tried going outside for like 30 mins and see if you felt like playing video games afterwards

maybe get yourself banned from 4chan so you dont burn your dopamine receptors with (yous)

>>105953453
My first time using asrock mobo and it started a fire in my new builda few weeks after putting it together. They replaced it and everything has worked for many years since but yeah never had that happened with any of my asus mobos.

I don't know what all these problems youtubers have with ASUS are I've never had any issues with them

>>105953471
What the fuck. Damn.. Guess I'm gonna go to microcenter and get an Asus or gigabyte.

>>105953478
Gamersnexus just has a hard on for drama while pretending to be an investigative "journalist"

>>105953504
it wouldnt be a problem if people understood that hardware with fixed bugs no longer have bugs that arent fixed

>>105953463
I meant to say 5070

>>105953512
$500 or less no
$501 or higher yes

>>105952848
I would go with dell or lg
dell because they have a great service and rma process through sheer volume, and lg because i'm superstitious and have never had a bad pixel on any of my 3 lg monitors over over 15 years

>>105953504
kys shill. Don't insult your betters while you bootlick megacorps. GN can get neurotic with their high-standards but ASUS have fucked over me personally to a large degree, they're a shitty company that deserves to burn and i will never buy their products again. Acer too.

>>105953544
well Acer's always been shitty they've never even pretended they are a good company or sell good products

>>105953544
Asus only sucks for creating armoury crate

>>105953553
their warranty dept can go fuck themselves aswell. Bad warranty depts = blacklist for me.

>>105953556
that malware, i couldnt remove it until i PAID for the premium driver-booster app to clean my system of it, it was a cancer that would never die.

>>105953425
well yeah it wouldnt scale infinitely because at a certain point, the cache will be large enough to contain all the frequently accessed data. and larger caches also have higher latency too which could result in IPC decrease versus a smaller cache part in certain workloads. just going from zen4 non-3d to 3d on amd incurs a 4 cycle L3 latency penalty

>>105953586
bruh just reinstall your os at that point

>>105953544
asus is 3rd rate for sure. they havent screwed me over by denying an rma so far but it took almost 6 months to complete
for me, samsung is the company that should go fuck themselves for refusing to honor their warranty for a firmware fault they did which destroyed my ssd

>>105953653
Samsung gave me 600 bucks extra for a refund after a failed rma for a Neo G8 at what the full price of the monitor would have been. Dealing with the jeets on the support line is awful though

Isn't in a bit noteworthy how utterly demented the pc monitor industry has been since the death of the crt. You had japs create blue led diodes and world has been plagued by garbage pixel response times, shit clarity and piss poor contrast ratios since.

You had decades of: tiny increase is pixel response times, incremental increase in display hz, incremental increase in res, followed up by incremental increase in hz at higher res. Contrast remained piss poor the entire time. VA was invented for TV's where the contrast helps movie experience but the pixels change in 40ms so they sucked for gaming.

By 2015 shit contrast 144hz 1440p displays were mainstream. Ok for gaming, shit for enjoying the image quality.
Apple meanwhile went with 50ms response time ips at 60hz so thats something. You had years of apple fans retarding the online discussion with how you couldn't possibly need more than 60hz. The industry was content not innvovating anything.

Samsung brought VA to gamers with g7 240hz in 2020 and for the first time in the history of humanity you could game without horrible ips contrast.
We needed Samsung to create Neo g8 in 2022 to have good HDR experience in pc space without burn in. Minileds were too hard of a problem to others somehow.
All good VA monitors since are using same Samsung tech, neo g7/g8, aoc/ktc/coolermaster VA minileds use samsung patents.

LG invented Woled TV's in 2010 but wasnt interested in monitors, Samsung forced their hand by releasing QD oled monitors. LG wouldnt push for anti-burn in tech and other things that increase the panel longevity otherwise, they couldnt even be fucked to put a metal sheet layer to absorb heat from hotspots while they were dominant.

What about VRR? Nvidia pushed it by inventing gsync. The display makers couldnt give less of a shit. Then they have features like low latency and advanced backlight dimming algorithms.
In short, if you're a pc gamer you owe Everything to Samsung and Nvidia. Others don't care.

>>105953957
that's why i use nvidia+samsung made oled

>>105953957
TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM.

Still waiting for am6

>>105953512
Yes, the 18gb model will be out in 6 months

>>105954028
I'd give my left nut for a 16:10 SED.

>>105953416
I played in 4k on a 760gtx

Anyone have a desk that they like and would recommend? Looking at the Tonstad from Ikea and I think it looks pretty nice.

>>105954314
flexispot E5 looks pretty good

>>105954314
I have some kinda chink one that raises and lowers and is like 6ftx3ft

>>105954321
>>105954322
A standing desk does seem pretty nice, a couple of my coworkers use them at work and I've always been a little curious about them.

>>105952690 (OP)
Incel bros, they're laughing at us...

>>105954337
the flexispot is prob the cheapest good one. Its 3 stage which enables it to go as low as 60cm.
If you see a chinkshit one that isnt 3 stage it only goes down to 73cm from the floor and they're prob way wobblier too.

>>105954342
How is it Intel's fault that Europoors can't afford AC?

>>105954362
Before 2022, they used to make good cpus that didn't rapidly degrade after leaving the factory

>>105954374
Just the American fab ones. If you got the Israeli SKU they didn't degrade.

>>105954348
The flexispot looks exactly like the ones my coworkers have and I've never seen or heard them have any problems with them, I'll ask them how they like it on Monday. I do like keeping my computer on the floor on a little stand though and I'm worried about cable lengths and whatnot, but I can live with putting it up on my desk if I get a decent sized one if the cables won't reach.

>>105954386
2m cable will be enough to not rip and tear the dp port, but you do need to be mindful of the placement of the pc and so on, and when its up you need to be careful if you move the monitor around, it also make it annoying if you have a usb cable from the pc to the monitor to use it as a hub

>>105954381
werent most of their 14nm dies fabbed in the usa? those could take upwards of 1.6v just fine

>>105954399
Gotcha, good to know. I have all of my stuff (wired mouse and keyboard, phone charger) plugged into my computer and no USB ports on my monitor, I'll measure all of my cables in the morning. Thank you for the help :)

>>105954431
I use wireless kb/mouse and I can optionally use the monitor as a hub for them if I wanted to
So I guess you'd want to buy a separate usb hub with a long cable you can use without worrying about the kb/mouse cable

>>105954450
Makes sense to me. I should probably get around to getting wireless peripherals at some point but my mouse and keyboard work fine as is and I haven't felt a strong need to replace them, but that'll probably change eventually.

fuck, do I need to get a bolster for my GPU?
I didn't realize this shit would be so heavy (yea I know I'm retarded and didn't pay attention to the weight when I ordered it)
Guess I'll keep the case horizontal for now

>>105954593
Your heavy gpu really oughta have a gpu support stand in the box
if not, temu has some for 5€

>>105954597
Actually I looked again and the weight isn't even included on most spec sheets, but the thing is 2.5 lbs.
There's no support included, it's a gigabyte rx 7600 xt
This is my first time installing a gpu from this decade and was surprised by the weight. Is it normal for something this heavy to just hang by the PCIe?
Mobo manual says large cards need a support so I'm concerned.
Will probably get a cheap support and keep tower horizontal for now

>>105952806
Anime is weird asf

>>105954677
>Is it normal for something this heavy to just hang by the PCIe?
Yeah. It will be fine in the meantime just order a support and dont worry about it.

>>105954710
Ok, it's actually not that bad since it has two screws directly in the slot covers too

>>105952427
>>105952342
>the thinking behind the 6K resolution is so that you can use it at 200% scaling, which results in 3008 x 1692, that turns out to be ~108 PPI, which is almost the same as a 27" at 2560x1440 (108.8 PPI) (but with much better clarity obviously).

I don't understand this

Firstly, windows scaling looks like shit, it makes everything blurry. I don't understand why it's still necessary and MS doesn't just make different sets of UI graphics at different sizes for different resolutions

Secondly, I'm using a 27" 1440p monitor right now, and it's clarify/pixel density is kinda bad. It's less crisp looking then my 17.3.in laptops that are 1080.

That said I only just started to use 1440p displays and windows scaling for shit after previously exclusively using 1080p displayd, so I could easily just be doing something wrong, DESU I hope I do because I've been very disappointed and frustrated with my new setup as a result

>>105952506
also bumping this, in case anybody knows what's up with this specific model

>>105951691
and this, for the anon who was maybe willing to buy the parts

Can I buy a 7 segment display separately and plug it into my mobo somehow?

>>105955196
I've seen GPU repair channels doing that with a pcie add-in card

Well finally finished my build, but Bios isn’t detecting my ssd ;_;
Should i just try to reinstall it, or are there any ways to troubleshoot the problem
Installed in m2 port

>>105955643
reinsert but dont fuck it up this time
check the manual for instructions again

>>105955643
if its a gen 5 slot then you may have to set it to gen 4 instead of auto in the bios

I want to put in a 3.5'' hdd into my desktop. It only fits in like picrel left. The space there has screw holes for 2.5''.

Has anyone an idea what kind of "adapter" could fit here?

Considering a processor for my new PC that I will use mainly for gaming, but also plan some video and image editing.
Currently I am split between 7900x an 9700X and I am not sure which one will be better in the long(~5 years) run

>>105955705
moar cores is better for your load

>>105955705
9950x3d was made for both. single ccd mode turns it into a 9800x3d. dual ccd mode turns it into a 32 thread cruncher.

>>105955675
Thank fuck it worked
But it still doesn’t detect the second ram stick
At least I can install OS I guess

>>105955690
It is but just reinstalling it seemed to work out. Now i gotta figure out the RAM

>>105955809
ddr5 am5 is known to have plenty of issues

What motherboard would make sense with the 14600K?
I don't want to have to bother with BIOS updates to get it to be compatible with the CPU and it shouldn't be crazy expensive.

>>105955831
it should just work as long as its 6000cl30. when people do 6400c32 or 6200cl28 things get sketchy.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/v6dmzP
what do you think of this build? all I want to do is playing the upcoming mgs delta, team fortress 2 (some modded server may be cpu intensive), counter strike and guild wars 2 wvw

>>105955965
5060 is better value
get 2tb nvme
im not sure if that particular case is good airflow, fractal has popular ones that are easy to build in
650w psu is enough but 750w would leave some room for future upgrade

Monitor Id go for 1440p 27". Theres a semi popular ktc M27T6 for hdr experience.

>>105955998
which 5060? gigabyte, msi or asus?

>>105956021
well asus requires armoury crate to change the leds so def avoid that shit
msi is the reliable brand, but check the reviews

>>105956079
ok, thanks

>>105952944
Why are you doing ram re-training?
Find stable timings and set them manually

>>105952690 (OP)
My oldest component in my trusty Ship of Theseus is a 630W Thermaltake PSU that's been in use for 11 years now. I've never had any issues with it.
Should I replace it because of it's age? I've heard that PSUs can potentially damage all other components if they fail.

>>105955998
do you think it's a good idea opting for a 9800x3d or a 7800x3d instead of the 9600x and save on gpu?

>>105956319
Id do it next time you see a big sale on a suitable nice brand psu or when you upgrade the gpu

>>105956328
Dont buy anything below 5060 level.
Buying the best cpu you can afford can make sense, but you also need other parts for the system to function.
9600x makes sense as the budget cpu today. You can upgrade it to 10800x3d later.

>>105952690 (OP)
General survey: Is it worth going for a 4K display (32") or not?

https://strawpoll.com/PKglejrmpZp

I'm usually content with 1080p (24") and I know it's a dumb question to ask, but just curious to know what's the general consensus here. Totally subjective, would like to hear others' thoughts. Add a reply to whatever you're currently posting, it's free.

>>105952916
>>105953537
Thanks for the answers so far!

>>105956376
The poll is a bit pointless since it 100% relies on your use case and pc.
If you buy 5070 ti and use it for gaming you can, but oled 4k's cost a lot and you lose a lot money to get that 4k oled gaming experience. And whats the point of 4k if its not oled.

Productivity uses can go for 5k, 6k monitors since who cares, more ppi.
1440p makes sense for 90% of gamers who dont spend 1k € on a gpu.

>>105956411
Sorry didn't mention "my" use case because I wanted to keep it general, and I thought people could check the linked responses right below the survey here: >>105952848
>Need a monitor for graphics design/3d modelling & texturing/photoshop...etc.
GPU is ancient 1080 ti.

>>105956431
most people buy 32" 4k ips monitors for that stuff

>>105952690 (OP)
Is it risky to mount a video card without support on a mobo lying flat down? I'm probably not gonna have a case for a while

>>105956770
no its fine, i ran mine without a case for a month

>>105956770
>>105956791
also just monitor temps and make sure your gpu isnt overheating

Is it worth getting a B850 motherboard over a B840 one if the price difference is 60 euros?

>>105956799
Wouldn't it be less prone to overheating without a case?

>>105956817
temps were fine for me but when i was looking it up for myself some people had problems as without a case there is no controlled airflow

>>105956805
https://www.techspot.com/guides/2901-amd-ryzen-x870-b850-b840-x670-b650-a620-motherboards/

Well aside from the one stick of RAM being shitty, I got the OS installed and everything's working great,
Thanks for all the help in the threads and guides!
It's been a hell of a night, time to get some sleep

>>105956805
What is the price difference between a B650 and B850?

thoughts about this?

Will AM6 require all new components like a new motherboard? When is it supposed to be coming? 2027?

>>105957163
Yes it will, it's literally a different socket if it's AM6 and not AM5, so clearly it will require a new motherboard. I expect AM6 to only come when we begin moving over to DDR6, just like AM5 was introduced with DDR5 support since the older AM4 only had DDR4.

I'm having second thoughts about buying the Gigabyte 9070 GPU I picked out for my build after hearing about the issues that some cards have with their thermal paste in a previous thread.

I was thinking of changing my choice from this card: https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-gv-r9070gaming-oc-16gd-radeon-rx-9070-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814932752

To this Sapphire 9070 XT: https://www.newegg.ca/sapphire-tech-pulse-11348-03-20g-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814202450

You guys think that's a fine alternative? Originally I chose to go with a 9070 for the lower power consumption, but since all the other 9070s on the market are at XT prices, I feel like I should just get an XT at this point.

>>105957180
I've been waiting 11 years to upgrade, feels kinda shitty if I do it right before a big new technology leap. Not sure I can wait another 2 years though...

>>105957189
5070

>>105957193
If you're running 2014 hardware you clearly don't care much about keeping up with performance, so why would it matter to you that 2 years in the future some new shit is going to come out? No matter what you buy and when you buy it, something new is going to be out in 2 years.

>>105957196
I don't see equivalent 16GB 5070s being at better prices, so I don't know why you're recommending it over the 9070.

>>105957215
It matters because I've never been able to upgrade and I finally have a good enough job that I can afford to do it. I wanted to build the computer of my dreams but I'm afraid I'll be let down if I do and then something way better comes out just a little bit after.
I wasn't going to build it until the end of the year or early next year anyways. Guess I'll just wait and see if there is any more solid news by then.

>>105957116
good shit

>>105957193
2026's zen6 is a fairly big upgrade
i personally wouldn't expect am6 until Q1 2028 at the earliest

>>105957230
the only upcoming thing is 5070, 5080 super which is just them using 3gb gddr7 chips over 2gb

otherwise this is the best time build a pc. Theres plentiful reasonable priced gpus, ddr5 isnt expensive like it was some time ago, nvme are cheap, am5 mobos are cheap, atx 3.0 psus arent extemely expensive like how they were some time ago

when am6 mobos come out everything will again be super expensive at launch

>>105957230
Like I said if your "just a little bit after" is defined as 2 whole fucking years, then something new will ALWAYS be out "just a little bit after" no matter when you buy. AM6 isn't going to come out in the next 2 weeks. There's going to be at least 1 more CPU gen on AM5, it's much too early to think about AM6.

That being said, if you wait until late this year or early 2026, said CPU gen might be right around the corner and it would probably be a bad time to buy Ryzen 9000 series with the new shit just about to come out.

>>105957243
>when am6 mobos come out everything will again be super expensive at launch
not to mention the exorbitant cost of unobtanium jedec ddr6 let alone paper launched lousy first-gen xmp/expo kits

>1000 gtexels
>1000 gb/s
no bottleneck just right

>>105957116
Only recommended if you're still on a Ryzen 1000~3000 CPU.

>>105952690 (OP)
Are the edifier s350db still the best 2.1 speakers?

does changing nvme builtin thermal pad do anything?
My mainboard slot has heatsink, recently all nvme drive run at 52*C+ when I'm gaming

Anon who was asking about monitors

I got the Asus ROG XG27ACS after advice here (thankful for the help anons)
It's good. Honestly idk what I expected, but I kind of thought it'd be miles ahead of other screens I've used but it isn't really.
I've never had a good monitor and I've been using some no name brand portable monitors a while and thought it'd be a substantial upgrade. Maybe the portable monitors are just better than I thought but it's kinda comparable.

Anyway, if I was wanting to go the next step up in Monitors from the Asus, where would I be looking? Minileds? Are all minileds at budget prices $200-$300 just going to be shit or are there some that will work well with consoles and PC?

>>105957699
its common for minileds to have issues that require firmware fixes, which isnt great when brands like aoc dont include user upgradable firmware in the package

KTC M27T6 is good for hdr, but some say it has issues. At least it has usb upgrade option.
OLED is the only real option. The 1440p 27" 240hz ones are like 550€ these days and the 360hz newer ones can be bought for 650€

>>105957689
That's not particularly crazy, the graphics card is probably blowing hot air straight on the thing. The truth is that the typical PC form factor wasn't designed to provide much cooling for things which mount like modern NVMe drives. The CPU gets its own cooler and air is supposed to blow on the cards to some degree, which come with their own cooling if they need extra (and boy, do they). For things which are basically stuck glued to the motherboard, underneath other cards there's just not much airflow.

No modern, solid-state electronics are going to get fucked by 52C, it's entirely fine. If it was in the 70s, 80s or beyond you might need to worry but as it is, it's far from a problem.

>>105955703
im just baffled by posts like these
making a compact build has to be a sign of genuine mental retardation

>>105957163
zen6 =/= am6
am4 had crazy good run, am5 will probably last at least 3-4 more years

>>105957890
What is zen6?

>>105957916
next generation of amd cpus, 10000 series or whatever its going to be called
it supposedly going to come late next year

Has anyone got royal pretor 130? Is it really worse than ps120 and pa120 like its shown in
Hardware Canucks review?
Also anyone with deepcool AK620 digital pro?

>>105957946
What's the point, CPU's aren't a bottleneck and coolers can barely handle what we have now? I don't really understand the point of a CPU race.

>>105957982
anon people use their computers for more than just playing aaaslop
and coolers handle even the intel housefires just fine, what are you talking about

how fucked would I be trying to use the 5060 to play new games at 1080p for the next 3-4 years

>>105958059
I'm playing games with a 960 at 1080p. That card is significantly stronger, I think you would be fine. Just turn down shadows, shadows rape performance.

>>105958226
Didn't the driver support dropped a few years ago? How are you still managing to run it on 'modern games'?

>>105958307
By modern games I mean stuff like poe 2. Haven't tried cyberpunk or other AAA shit.

>>105958307
i see google is too hard of an application to use

best white 420mm AIO with LCD?

TEAMGROUP T-CREATE CLASSIC DL - E21T
or
TEAMGROUP Z44A5 - MAP1602

Both 1TB

As far as I've read, MAP1602 is more efficient for direct writing to NAND, but at the same time it's hot and a bit less reliable than Phison?

I was just told the opposite—that Phison is hotter than MAP1602; it's [MAP1602] actually the coldest controller, that's why it's extremely popular.

I just don't care about these speeds—it's only for games and software, and it will be installed in the slot under the GPU, where you can't put a big heatsink, so it's better if it's cooler.

>>105958340
>LCD
Do you carry your chopped off balls around in a little jar or did you donate them to science?

That triple chamber corsair case looks cool but it doesn't support 420mm coolers, pain

>>105958334
>google
normie

>>105958401
do I have to lurk more to get the joke?

>>105958503
The joke is that you want to watch the little screen inside your computer instead of the big screen. I struggle to comprehend such silliness.

>>105957728
Thanks for the response. What issues does the KTC have?
Wondering if it's worth the risk. Tbh I can't afford the upgrade to OLED.

>>105957982
single core is marginal
multi core is huge gains

I posted a few days ago about looking for a PC for Blender/graphic design/creative work in general and put this together, how does this look? Is there anything glaringly wrong with it? Specifically in Blender I mostly do abstract motion design-y work that usually has particle and fluid simulations with procedural materials.
The CPU/motherboard/RAM comes in a bundle from Microcenter, where I'll be getting most of the parts and the rest from Amazon or wherever is cheapest online. Microcenter also has the 5060 TI at $480 right now. That way it comes out to a little bit under $1600 USD which I'd love to make a little cheaper if possible but it isn't the end of the world if not.
For reference I'm currently rocking an RTX 2070 and Ryzen 5 3600 build that I built up five ish years ago and I'd like this to feel like a pretty big upgrade that'll feel capable for a similar amount of time. Got a new job a few months ago and this'll be my first big celebratory purchase :)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hkKBRV

>>105959164
>paying for windows
come on now

Arc B770 fucking WHEN?????

finally made good use of my 1GB thumbdrive

>>105959164
Buy a 5700x for like $115 and wait for the 5070 super 18gb to come out in january. The singlethreading speed increase from a 3600 is bigger than you would expect. Then wait again for am6 to come out and go to that platform. Wait another couple years before leaving am4.

>>105959172
I have Windows 10 on my current PC, will I be able to transfer it over to the new one and upgrade to 11 pretty easily? I'm not super tech literate when it comes to hardware.

>>105958940
The 4K IPS one (M27P6) doesn't sustain the 900-nit full screen brightness for 30 minutes that is required for the Display HDR 1400 spec; it drops down to around 600 nits after 10 minutes or so.
Not a deal breaker for me, but you wonder if other features are also running out of spec.
There's also some color & HDR adjustments you need to make, but this is expected for a monitor at this price range.

I also wouldn't hope for display firmware updates, even if the monitor includes a USB port.
The official English language download page redirects to the manual/instructions for their monitors.
https://en.ktcplay.com/download/

Do your research, and use Amazon's return period to test out the product to understand its capabilities & limitations.
There's no perfect monitor on the market; you need to settle with one that's good enough for you.

Here is a review of an anon who bought the T6 1440p VA miniLED.
>>105943204

English translation of the Japanese review
>1440p VA miniLED
https://chimolog-co.translate.goog/ktc-m27t6/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

>4K IPS miniLED
https://chimolog-co.translate.goog/ktc-m27p6/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

>>105959207
always do clean install on new build, trying to carry over old windows install is retarded
also im pretty sure you cant even do that with ultra series

clean install w11 https://massgrave.dev/windows_11_links
+ activation https://massgrave.dev/ is the way

>>105959205
Noted, thank you. Not usually a huge fan of playing the waiting game when it comes to new stuff coming out but if it's a really good value I could be more interested. My last two builds have mostly been a set and forget type of thing.
>>105959267
Also noted, thank you for the help.

>>105959299
Keep in mind intel abandons their sockets every 1-2 years.

>>105959312
Never had an Intel CPU, I'll keep that in mind.

>9070xt for 700 euro
Should I do it? I don't have high hopes for next gen and nvidia isn't even considered with their recent track record or prices

>>105959414
If you buy Radeon you're not white.

>>105959426
I also use linux and dont give a shit about slop or memetracing and all of my "productivity" programs rely on the CPU

>>105957982
> coolers can barely handle what we have now
Huh? Easily!

>>105959183
wrong file darn it

>>105959426
It's the opposite actually

>>105959414
>9070xt for 700 euro
EU prices are crazy rn. Got my powercolor reaper for 660€ yesterday

>>105959465
Should have been a webm or mp4 but it was funny regardless

>>105959473
Third worlders don't build pcs they buy laptops or decade old prebuilts.

>>105959414
>>105959513
put the whole build at 1500€ flat. I'm really happy
>>105959465
the trusty anti sag stick

Any of you have any recommendations for how to hide the lime green accents MSI put on the x870?

My 9600x is absolutely not liking the am4 wraith stealth cooler on it. 97c at full load

>change render resolution in game from 4k to 1080p on 32" 4k
>in the rendered world lose a smidge of sharpness across everything but it's not THAT insane
>the most noticeable downgrade is in the ui and everything else because using 0 upscaling just raw 1080p rendered and upscaled by gpu
was high res a meme outside of ui elements/text/desktop use/giant fucking screen?

>>105959934
Get a big ass cooler. Would solve both your problems.

day 3
it's not going to be delivered today even though it says out for delivery
i figured out what these stupid niggers are doing though. they don't want to deliver a 20 pound package, so they scan the package (this makes its say out for delivery) but they don't actually load it onto the truck for the day. at 8pm it will change to delayed and then someone else will have to try and deliver it the next day. this creates a loop that will continue happening until fedex sends the package back to the shipper or until some faggot working at fedex decides to actually do their job properly.

i'm going to make sure i NEVER buy from anyone using fedex as their only shipper though. i genuinely don't know how they're still in business.

>>105959575
Peerless assasin is so good. Been almost a year with no dusting and temps stay chill with my ryzen 7600.

>>105959945
You are blind, sitting too far away or both. 1080p on 32 inch ppi is awful.

>>105960019
Lmao
It's not just for big packages
>buy $20 of parts from Digikey
>choose fedex thinking it shouldn't matter
>package became out for delivery
>not delivered due to "weather"
>goes back to the distribution center
>out for delivery the next day
>not delivered that day due to "weather"
>repeat for 3 more days
>tell them to hold at Walgreens
>supposedly delivered to Walgreens for pickup
>Lady at Walgreens says zero packages came in that day
>contact digikey and they immediately resend the order with UPS
>UPS delivers a day early

At this point I hope that every single package I get sent from FedEx gets fucked in some way. Companies aren't going to stop picking the cheapest option unless it stops being the cheapest option from refunds and reorders

>>105960019
Amazon has my case in a warehouse two hours away from where I am but they still don't want to fucking deliver it today or tomorrow. I hate ordering crap online and wish brick and mortar electronic stores were still alive

>>105959414
I got my hellhound for $620 but with high sales tax + microcenter $80 warranty it cost me $790 total. Don't you yuros have sales tax already added to the final price? If so that's no big deal. Microcenter seems to ONLY build stores in high sales tax areas. I used to live in delaware (0% sales tax) and they put the fucking store north of philly where sales tax was retarded. Ordering online with 0 sales tax is almost a sexual experience. I would be willing to move to oregon just for that.

>>105960094
You wouldn't see the actual pixel lines on a 4k screen like you would on a 1080p 32". I had one and it was like the screendoor effect in vr but all the time. I use a 48"4k tv now

thoughts?
Want to do a white and hide build with cables on the back of the mobo and aio tubes hidden as much as possible.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8wnt2x

>>105960327
why do you spend so much on mobo and memory?
also holy shit that's an expensive 5070ti.
I would probably slash the budget for most components in half and upgrade to a better graphics card.

>>105960327
Don't get that white 5070trio if it's going to be over the MSRP of the 5080. Idealy you shouldn't pay over 829 for it

>>105960512
Because they're white, he explained this. His next step will be becoming a sff tranny

>>105960514
You don't understand, it's white.

Are you supposed to see screen tearing with Vsync off with a VRR monitor?

I don't get people who buy grossly overpriced white components for more than the next higher tier product when you can just paint the shroud/heatsink yourself. You don't even have to use paint, you can use Vinyl Wrap and still keep your warranty

>>105960327
wtf is that ram
do you actually need 96 gb?
im pretty sure 2 x 32gb with better timings like 6000 cl 30 would be better

>>105960327
1. Like others I think you are both stupid and insane to be spending that amount of money on a ricer-white out build but if you are committing to that route then I'd do the following:

2. Spend the extra $70 and swap out that RAM kit for this proper DDR5-6000Cl30 kit instead:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wQVfrH/gskill-ripjaws-m5-neo-rgb-96-gb-2-x-48-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3036f48gx2-rm5nrw

3. If your build is gonna be based around a dual-chamber case, might as well go for Lian Li's L-Shaped PSU that will let you hide the cables better:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WX4Zxr/lian-li-edge-1000-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-eg1000-white
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/lian-li-edge-gold-eg1000g-atx-3-1-psu-review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gllm7OyHiSQ

Or Corsair's RMx Shift Series that points the connectors facing the motherboard-side panel again for easier hiding:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kDvD4D/corsair-rm1000x-shift-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020275-na
https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm1000x-shift-psu-review-they-shifted-the-modular-panel/


4. PCIe 5.0 NVME is waste of money for client usage (you're not running a database server here) instead, save yourself $65 for a 2TB PCIe 4.0 drive that comes with a nice white heatsink to match your build over that black/yellow model:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rjkWGX/adata-premium-for-ps5-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-apsfg-2t-csus

Edited PCPP List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2KtnVF

>>105952690 (OP)
ya know what… we need more novelty and fantasy computer cases

>>105960512
>why do you spend so much on mobo and memory?
because the mobo is one of the few on the market with backside connectors.
and I need the ram for Ai stuff

>>105960607
I need alot of ram for ai 2x64gb would be better but I didn't find any in white.

>>105960629
thanks for edited list.

About to pull the trigger, anything wrong?
Don't mind the prices, it's just reference

Looking for advice/critique for this build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s2d9HW
Neighbor wants me to build him a system around the i9 13900K, which he has already purchased. He intends to use it for CAD or some type of architecture design software.
He may want to get a 2TB SN850X and I'll talk to him about maybe spending a little extra on a 5060 Ti 16GB (which would probably call for a different PSU as well).

>>105960094
>You are blind
I'm not, I clearly said it's a difference, but the difference is not THAT insane, atleast in the selected game I had
it's like when you are viewing a video on your phone but you select a higher res setting and it activates and "pops in" with the new res, it's a slight bump, but it's not crazy
all other elements that are non 3d are very evident with the lower smoothness however, the 3d render world? a bit less detail

>sitting too far away
sitting very close, there where my idea of 4k not being fully realized at 32" come from, maybe going bigger would be better to realize all the detail

>1080p on 32 inch ppi is awful.
it's 1080p on 140ppi, it's not on 1080p on 68ppi
a native 4k panel renders 1080p better than a native 1080p panel
1080p on 4k 32" is way better than 1080p on 24-25", you can clearly see pixels on 24-25" 1080p distance, ppi might not be a meme after all, but the added resolution and rendering at a higher detail in game is not that serious, I guess it would be way more serious at larger size though, harder and harder to see in a smaller screen

>>105960283
>I use a 48"4k tv now
If Samsung would release a 42" 240hz glossy QDOLED tv
idk If stepping down to woled is worth it

>>105960832
Looks decent. Might be a bit cramped but that's okay if you know what you're doing. One thing I would change is to spend more on the fans/cooling. Those Arctics are great value but this is clearly not a "value" rig.

>>105959934
>how to hide the lime green accents
Black tape, or Sharpie marker
There's a kind called Sharpie Pro, it's a darker gray, flat body
The ink smells different, and it has more pigment or something (less opaque), but still comes off with isopropanol

>>105960872
Thanks, noted, I might get some Noctua fans instead

>>105959934
Get a be quiet dark rock

>>105960857
>He may want to get a 2TB SN850X
Sounds reasonable. Depends on how many projects he needs quick access to I suppose.

>spending a little extra on a 5060 Ti 16GB
You should check if his software suite uses GPU acceleration (or if he games). If it's no to both then he could get away with the IGP alone.

>which would probably call for a different PSU as well
750W is plenty. At least 200W of headroom when both CPU+GPU are loaded 100% (which is rare).

>>105960900
I would, yeah. Or some other "premium" fans. You shouldn't need 5 btw - that case is practically all mesh.

I upgraded and rebuilt an old prebuilt I had a while ago, exchanged the PSU, mobo, GPU and case. So far so good, performance is markedly better and all BUT. Now despite the performance increase there is an almost ever present stutter or frametime issues, as if something is out of synch or something, making some games quite uncomfortable. FPS are good, CPU and GPU useage don't go beyond 50-60%. Turning off and on vsynch either ingame or in the novidia control panel does not seem to help either. It tends to be most obvious when moving the mouse and looking around. Any ideas?

>>105960946
Check that your windows refresh setting is correct. It will default to 30hz. Right click > display settings > advanced display settings > refresh rate

So i know that AM5 doesnt need contact frames for thermals but man are they useful for keeping thermal paste from getting everywhere.

>>105960946
>>105961003
Also standard stuff but make sure your bios/windows/drivers/games are all up to date and your power consumption settings in the OS are set to "High Performance" and things like Energy Saver or Dynamic Refresh Rate are disabled.
Are your 1% lows good? You don't have any issues with audio hitching playing a simple song right?
You can check your DPC Latency with LatencyMon
https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbXzM60ad8I

Single 32" 6K (6016 x 3384) monitor or Dual 27" 1440p (2560 x 1440) monitors?

>>105960946
should have reinstalled windows desu
try removing gpu drivers with DDU and installing them from scratch

>>105961003
>>105961150
microsoft forum ass posts
you aren't actually supposed to use high performance plan on zen5

>>105961150
>>105961003
Checked all these things before and drivers are up to date as well, and latency is also good. Seems to be something else.

>>105961020
The two am5 builds I've done, I've used the Thermal Grizzly ptm sheet on one, and a kryosheet/graphene on the other. Microcenter stocks both.
They're quite convenient, and it's less than $10 more expensive than the usual stuff.

>>105960916
>You should check if his software suite uses GPU acceleration
He seemed unsure exactly what software he wanted to use. I'll bring up the iGPU thing, it may be smart to hold off on the graphics card until he figures out the software question.

>>105961273
Yeah it's no big hassle to add one later.

is this any good? I think that's the lowest it's ever been

>>105960946
What is your CPU?

>>105961189
I don't fucking trust Windows to be able to accurate clock down CPUs and wake them up properly. I've seen way too many issues with system being unable to wake from deep C-States.

>>105961187
Depends on what your usage case is. The 6K monitor will look extra sharp for text and be better for editing fullscaled 4K content with tools/GUI around it. But you want more physical real estate I'd get 2x27" 4K monitors instead.


>>105961210
>FPS are good, CPU and GPU useage don't go beyond 50-60%
GPU not hitting near-100% in game may not be a good thing as the GPU isn't running with all it has to give. As suggested try uninstalling all GPU drivers via DDU then reinstalling them. Also does viewing this webpage lock to your monitor's supposed-to-be refresh rate and give smooth animation?
https://www.testufo.com/

>>105961327
>FHD
It's 1080p stretched across a 27" panel, that's why it's so cheap. Avoid.
It's fine for a 24" panel, but at that size you want 1440p or higher to avoid huge pixels and the screen door effect.

If you play E-Sports that can get super-high FPS to take advantage of 240Hz+ then this 24" 400 Hz IPS is actually a little cheaper:
https://www.newegg.com/p/3D4-007C-00033?item=9SIBK6TKEM6630

Or for about the same price you can get a larger 27" 1440p 240Hz panel that is a more all-purpose display:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1T35BCF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K7ioTEieps
^Review back when it was $80 more expensive than it is now

>>105961327
human eye can't see past 144hz

>>105961336
i7 8700. Games I've tried so far shouldn't have a problem with it though, I use it to play mostly old games.
>>105961337
Testufo animation is buttersmooth. Guess I'll try deleting the GPU driver with DDU and reinstalling and if that fails reinstalling Windows.

Think different™

>>105961327
>>105961439
there's a qhd version of it too for $329

what's a good wired keyboard with aluminum chassic and pbt keycaps?

>>105959225
Thank you so much, that's very helpful. Going to check all those.
I've been trying to do research, just had a little trouble since I don't know much to weed out the bullshit from the reality. Like I've seen RTings do in depths reviews but they don't seem to cover the brands like KTC and Koorui as much which makes it difficult.
I can't afford the 4k one, like you say some of the chinese brandsseem to get no support.

The weird thing is I'm not really fussy about monitors, I've literally never had a good one until this Asus. But I just don't get why it has some of its drawbacks like washed out HDR. Makes me wonder if a miniled will blow my socks off in comparison. I wanna use Amazon's return but I've got a voucher for some money off, like $100 but I don't get it back if I use it and return ;_;

I've seen the AOC Q27G3XMN, the Koorui G10 and the KTC M27T6. I think that's about it for Miniled at this price range, just trying to decide what's best. It sucks they all lack PS5 VRR which my Asus does do. But then it's things like that, blooming, ghosting etc where I don't really know what difference they make caue I've never had good screens or even paid much attention to them.
I uniornically still use a plasma tv.

>>105961557
I wouldn't pay $330 for a 1440p@240Hz panel right now in mid-2025 when there are several models with identical specs for less, see here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&D=240000,600000&P=2&sort=price&page=1
Of the models available I'd either pickup the Acer Nitro XV272U linked back in >>105961439 for $100 less or the Gigabyte M27Q-X for a bit more:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TxddnQ/gigabyte-m27q-x-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-m27q-x

>>105961591
Can you save up an extra $100 between now and Black Friday?
Last BF they had this 1440p QD-OLED for $400 and it was $450 during Amazon Prime Day (now up to $485):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D682HF6R
It should probably go back down to $400 in November and wouldn't surprise me if they discount it or another OLED monitor into the $3XX range to clear stock for newer higher refresh-rate models next year. OLED is really your only non-sidegrade option from your current Asus LCD for perfect contrast, viewing angles, colors, and motion performance.

>>105961327
I would never buy anything from hp ever

how do I fit this support bracket into my case

I know I don’t need it but the beyblade wrench is starting to piss me off

>>105961737
>Can you save up an extra $100 between now and Black Friday?
Nah I'm already way over budget is the problem. Bought a dew other things lately too so need to reign it in unfortunately. I'm also a bong so no best buy and my amazon voucher literally expires tomorrow kek
I get what you're saying though, thanks. I wonder if panel wise the miniled will wow me in a way the Asus didn't. And then from there, if the tradeoffs are worth it.

I'm leaning on the KTC and comparing them and then if it's shit just accept I wasted a £100 voucher. hurts though. Wonder ithere are other minileds at the price range that maybe have VRR or 2.1 HDMI. Couldn't find them bessides the AOC and Koorui

>>105961892
it goes on those pcie slot covers
im not sure if you actually need it, doesn't that drain port (?) support your gpu already

>pcbg
I guess this general will do.

Good evening.
Currently using a router from my ISP which broke completely, done all kinds of troubleshooting. I'm looking to buy a new one that is not too expensive, preferably does not look like those ugly gamer routers but It's fine either way. I also want it to be able to connect to my phone and TV. Do you guys have any recommendations?

>>105962026
You will likely need a modem as well depending on the provider. For routers I like TP link. To hook your phone to your TV use a smart TV dongle like ruku and cast to your TV from your phone.

>>105962026
is it not part of your contract?
if you dont really care, might as well get a free replacement from the isp

>>105960019
There it is. Called cs again and the dumb bitch that answered had the audacity to get an attitude with me for calling too many times. Bitch, I will continue calling as many times as I want to. This fuckass company needs to either fix their tracking system or stop saying a package is “out for delivery” when it really isn’t.

>>105960058
Ok but some of us have real cpu's that actually do serious work and a little dinky fan isn't going to do the job.

>>105962073
Also at this point I’m like 99% certain my monitor was lost or damaged in transit

>>105962015
it cant squeeze past the gpu, do i need to take it out and put try to slip in both at the same time?

yes but le company said if i dont use it they can void my warranty

>>105962192
yes, im pretty sure the upper slot of the bracket is a lowest slot for the gpu

Could someone help me figure out which graphics card to get? I want an MSI 5070ti but they have a lot of options and I'm too stupid to figure out what makes one better than the other. Is there a preferred version? I don't want white.

>>105962224
ah unlucky my motherboard makes it impossible to put it there

>>105962237
what
you install it where screws hold the gpu in your case's pcie slot, it's on the opposite side from the mobo

I love my 5090.

>>105962321
i love you

what are the safest 5090 brands?

>>105962226
Literally whichever card is cheapest (and consider other OEMs besides MSI if they have a model on sale).
If a few are the same price or within $20-30 either get the Gaming Trio or better yet the Vanguard. Ignore the OC models if they're more expensive as that's throwing money at something you can do with a slider in free software in 10 seconds.
https://us-store.msi.com/RTX-5070Ti
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-epic-x-rgb-plus-oc/40.html
Really it's absurd to have 8 different SKUs based around the same GPU, surely MSI and other GPU vendors could save money on product management/logistics if they just had the 1 or 2 cards at every level.

>>105957189
Dunno about the XT but I really like my 9070 Pulse.

>>105952690 (OP)
I'm building a PC with a 9950X and RTX 5090.
What's a good MoBo to go with it? Is 1200W PSU enough?

>>105962409
full load is ~900w, 1200w is good, i have HX1200i
get 9950x3d btw

>>105962438
>get 9950x3d btw
Yes, that's what I meant. What about a good Mobo?
What about the GIGABYTE X870 AORUS Elite?
I have 0 idea and knowledge about AM5 mainboards.

Graphics card companies should only be allowed to release 3 new graphics cards (one cheap, one medium, one expensive) each year and outsource manufacturing to one company each. There's just too many and it's confusing unless you do a bunch of homework. Same with CPUs.

>>105962462
sure, high end mobos should all be good, check the manual for pcie layout details if you are planning to use pcie ports besides the main one
the only caveat is assrock, their mobos were/are supposedly burning cpus, so buy at your own risk

>>105962366
Thanks for the info that helps clear things up.

I "inherited" (tranny brother got kicked out) a NZXT h510 (original, no RGB, no mesh), is this thing any good? the front panel is blocked off.

>>105962462
Depends on your needs and how high tier of MB you would like.
>>105962493
They still are if you look at the asscock reddit.

>>105962493
>sure, high end mobos should all be good, check the manual for pcie layout details if you are planning to use pcie ports besides the main one
No, I don't. The GPU I'm planning to get is so thicc that there won't be any space anyways for additional PCIe cards lol

>fractal terra and form d with a missing side panel because it broke
>9800x3d hitting 85c or so on benchmark
>5080 hitting high 60s to low 70s
>on a normal lian li midtower the same cpu hits 55-58 and same gpu high 50s
so I guess this is normal for tiny itx cases? no temp monitors on the psu but I'm guessing it's fucking cooking in there so the life span of that is probably going to be cut quite a bit

>>105962532
ITX is a hotbox yes but 85c under load isn’t hot enough to really significantly impact the lifespan of the parts

Also what do you guys think about the Fractal Design Meshify 3?

>>105962595
Can't decide between it and the lancool 217, both are appealing in different ways.

>>105962527
Second PCIE 5.0 slot will probably be completely blocked, buy you probably could still fit something small in the third slot, like a sound card or some low profile 3050 for physx games

>>105962620
>like a sound card
lol
>or some low profile 3050 for physx games
lmao even

No, I don't plan on anything like this.

>>105962595
i have 2 (regular no rgb and xl with rgb)
i like them, build quality is nice, top rail is detachable which is nice for installing aio
xl has an option for side intake fans, but i kept the regular configuration

my only nitpick is probably the fact that neither include a back fan, only 3x front

>>105962595
Don't love the crumply front panel but other than that it looks pretty nice. If the front panel was just flat it would look great in my opinion.

>>105962595
Would be a perfect case if it had wood accents.

>>105962568
I just tested cinebench and it peaked at fucking 93c jesus christ. good learning experience, but i'll probably just recycle older lower end parts on one of the itx cases.

aren't smaller cases better for airflow since there's less distance for the air to travel to and through your components?

>>105961892
Those Sapphire 'long arm' gpu supports are the worst design.
Get one of these little screw types. They're dirt cheap, and they work better.

is zotac solid good for 5090s? it's the cheapest 5090 currently

>>105962655
No larger cases always have better temps. More air= better.

>>105962655
>aren't smaller cases better for airflow since there's less distance for the air to travel to and through your components?
Getting cool air into the case is only half the battle. When all your components are packed up against each other like a passengers on a Japanese subway the cool air doesn't have much space to circulate in between them. Moreover, also like being a cramped subway/elevator each of the heat-outputting components being so close together causes cross-radiant heading in a kind of insulation effect.

>>105962462
>>105962629
I have an Aorus Pro X870E. I had to double check, because I thought your image was what's in my setup.
Haven't had any problems with mine. That little gpu easy release button is a nice feature. And the m2 quarter turn/quick release screws.

The seven segment display usually shows some code that's not in the manual, but if you search, there's usually some forum post about "what it really means".

Overall there's less difference between motherboard tiers with AM5, compared to AM4.

>>105961561
keychron

>>105962655
Think of air like a fluid you have more capacity with larger cases

>High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Why is the 990 pro better for windows?

>>105962754
because it has working firmware unlike in linux where it loses massive performance and performs like a sata ssd or hdd

>>105962667
its fine

How can I tell whether my gpu is really sagging? I have tried using my anti sag support that comes with the gpu but it feels as if I am bending the card upwards, and frankly the card seems to be standing much firmer without the need of one.

>>105963009
Get a leveler to see if your card is really straight or not. If it is just set the brace right up against it with no extra pressure so it doesn't sink in the future.

>>105962825
W-what

>>105962910
How about the MSI Suprim

>>105963046
best performing 5090 model

>>105963009
if its not barely touching the m2 heatsink then its sagging

>>105962507
>NZXT h510 (original, no RGB, no mesh), is this thing any good?
It's fine if you have a relatively low-power draw system.
(sub 100W CPU, sub 300W video card)

>>105962595
What happened to the vertical gpu slots?

>>105962595
No dust filter?

You dont need more than x gigs of ram people are evil
I moved from 16 to 32 now i can have 100 tabs and ten games open

when should i buy a 50 series card
i have a 3080

>>105963735
The 3080 is basically equivalent to a vanilla 5070 -14% and 2GB of VRAM so you're not missing much. I'd say think about it probably during Black Friday sales of the SUPER refresh cards next November or just hold for the 60 series.

>>105963599
>You dont need more than x gigs of ram people are evil
>I moved from 16 to 32 now i can have 100 tabs and ten games open
If I never want to close Chrome or any open tabs again before I die how much performance difference is there between these two kits ( 15.385 ns vs 10 ns first word latency):
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/jn26Mp,C6Jp99
Is it enough to be worth the extra $100 premium?

Another kino ASUS hate video by GN, once again exposing their malware apps for being, well, malware.

https://youtu.be/Vy_KWP04pfs?si=EUY7x5Ha3lgfFBM8

>>105963046
if you even have to ask, you're too tech-illiterate to be paypigging for Njudean gpus at that level. Just get a nice 5080 to sodomise yourself with goy and save a few grand.

>>105962667
No idea about the 5090s, but I have a Zotac 3080 Ti and while it has been working reliably for like 3-4 years now, it's not a particularly great cards. Going by the undervolting results I got I think the GPU is on the bad side and the cooling isn't great either, it's not super effective and if you want to keep the temps in check it gets pretty loud.

For comparison I have a 4090 and it runs cooler AND quieter both, despite using more power than the Zotac 3080 Ti.

>>105964084
the entire 3k series by Njudea was poorly designed, you should have attached additional heatsinks on top of the gpu panel to vrm components that aren't being cooled properly, to add a bit of longevity to your gpu. Theres old crypto-mining threads and articles that explain where to put them on 3090s or 3080s.

>>105963803
what cpu
3d cpus usually have margin ram impact

>>105964128
Was thinking about a 14700K while they were still cheap.

>>105962595
How does it hold up vs Torrent for airflow? It's definitely aesthetically nicer.

>>105962595
>1 x USB Type-C 20 Gbps, 2 x USB Type-A 5 Gbps, 1x Audio Combo Jack, Power button

Whats up with the 2 usb A ports in every new case that costs >200€
like you have plenty of fucking space there, just add a couple more?

>>105964332
do you actually need more?
just connect all your periphery in the back
i have pretty decent cable management at the desk, so i basically use frontal case usbs for sticks

>>105964344
surely you can exceed it if you use wired peripherals, being at the front essentially extends the cables reach for some arrangements. Then if theres free slots you can conveniently stick whatever usb you want without starting to remove other ones. Maybe they increase the clarity of wireless connection if theres no metal case blocking it to your thingies when its in the back.

its just that the physical requirements of 2 extra usbs are so cheap it doesnt make sense to limit it.
they use a single cable to transmit 4 ports vs 2 to the connection in the mobo

how much do you figure the 4 usba A port pcb costs vs 2, they might save an euro or two?

>>105964270
Then yeah it's worth the price difference

>>105963565
the antec flux pro doesnt have one either. Both are great cases tho. Vertical mounting gpus is always a stupid meme though, why add such a delay to your gameplay experience?

I'm using a 1440p 27" display for the first time after having only used 1080p or lower laptops my whole life

What can I actually do with the extra screen real-estate for productivity? It feels like a waste to have only one thing open at once but I'm not sure what i'd actually do with the rest

>>105962825
meds

>>105963040
Samsung didn't optimize for Linux at all so it loses to gen3 nvme drives in Linux
>>105964478
I'm not a doctor anon

>>105964436
Thanks

>>105964382
not really, my mobo has 10 type a ports in the back
i think having less frontal connectors is better
those 2 type a ports in meshify 3 use a single internal usb 3 cable which is nice

>>105964500

>>105963203
I have a 5700x3d and a radeon 6600, think i should be fine

>>105964458
thats not even a big monitor anon, just increase the scaling until the text size is comfortable to your eyes, and enjoy the increased level of freedom you have.

>>105964441
I need to mount 2 fat GPUs. 1 vertical and 1 horizontal with a stand

>>105964458
>I'm using a 1440p 27" display for the first time after having only used 1080p or lower laptops my whole life
i did similar
did you notice the bump in res? for me it hasn't really felt like much of a difference

>>105961591
Anyone got any thoughts on Cooler Master as a brand for PC Monitors?

I've seen Cooler Master Tempest GP27Q, it's an IPS mini led for around the same price as all these. Seems promising but the amazon reviews all say the QA is dogshit.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-CMI-GP27-FQS-EK-Coolermaster-GP27-FQS/dp/B0BNYV55FF?th=1

Also how bad are VA Panels for ghosting and response time compared to IPS? I've never had a VA Panel. Is it noticeable for a pleb like me or one of those where you only notice if you're deep into it? I do play some fast paced shooters

>>105964906
But scaling it up looks blurry and shitty, and I can still read everything comfortably at 100% scale anyways, I'm only sitting like a foot away from the monitor

>>105965022
No, in fact, it looks less crisp then my 1080p laptops do, which makes sense given that the pixel density works out to being less then 1080p laptops.

>>105965068
IPS miniled with small amount of zones makes very little sense, the ips has poor contrast ratio and the blooming is more noticeable than on VA. CM had a lot of firmware issues when they released their first minileds which was lame.

There is more black smear on VA, the KTC M27T6 is the current widely available recommended miniled but it loses in clarity to stuff like samsung g7 240hz va from 2020.

If you want something better than ktc you need to pay 2x for oled.

>>105964906
The only correct answer is a 16x10 dell

>>105952852
It’s in energy settings right click the windows icon lol

>>105965068
>>105965204
Something worth considering if he doesn't want to bite the bullet for OLED would be the Dell U2724D using the newer IPS Black panel which gets ~2300:1 native contrast vs ~1000:1 typical of regular IPS & w/o using MiniLEDs so no blooming but also without the smearing of cheap VAs:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-U2724D-UltraSharp-2560x1440-DisplayPort/dp/B0CMXGDK5S
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2178689/dell-ultrasharp-u2724d-review.html