Thread 105958385

Why are most of best AI researchers immigrants? Isn’t this a national security risk

>>105958385 (OP)
>best
>non-whites
Pick one

>>105958385 (OP)
meme dream team
when text and shape recognition national security risk

>>105958385 (OP)
It looks like half their team has been there less than a month, another 35% less then a year, and the remaining have worked there over a year

>>105958422
Make a competitor then oh you can't then shut up. Accept the world as it is.

>>105958385 (OP)
Westerners don't care about the safety of their countries.

Americans just don't want to work.

>>105958422
cry harder you pathetic fucking faggot

>>105958385 (OP)
>Why are most of best AI researchers immigrants?
Employers demand higher education while the US makes it progressively harder to afford.

>>105958385 (OP)
The US started mass exporting all manufacturing and development roles in the 80s with Reagan. Every military contractor and massive tech giant is all foreign labor.
Did you really think skin color is what made Detroit the way it is?

>>105958422
lmao the cope on this site is off the charts

How does one get in on such a high paying grift?

>>105958894
Get in some AI team lie about result and accept better pay jobs. The whole industry is incentived to create fake benchmarks and fake result on benchmarks for getting better jobs.

>>105958385 (OP)
>Immigrants accept the shit wages and working conditions.
>Whites with equal or better resumes are rejected for DEI
>Whites with equal or better academics are rejected from colleges for DEI
It's a real wonder when the deck is obviously and intentionally stacked against a certain people and demographic. However, just a single AI escape caused solutions to be solved within days that the gatekeepers and their minions called unsolveable. That one incident tells you all you need to know

>>105958894
by having (((connections))).

>>105958385 (OP)
The chinee will probably sell it back to chyna, with fucking 50% of them from chyna that is probably their entire purpose.

>>105958422
The internet spent the last 20 years dicksucking anyone from asia (excluding west/south Asian) up until covid hit.

>Asians know math! Asians are smart! Asians are geniuses! Etc. Etc.

>>105958385 (OP)
funny how these people dont write papers or try to sell their software: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG4gUTowXc

you know why?
because llms are a gimmick
nobody cares about guarding llm shit as trade secrets because theyre worthless
theyre an interface. like a keyboard with advanced autocomplete

>>105958385 (OP)
Meme answer - >>105958979
Real answer - >>105958759
It takes an incredible amount of skills, effort and determination to get hired by a US company with relocation. On the other hand, most (not all) of american zoomers/millenials are lazy and spoiled. They think that the whole world should be handed to them on a silver platter while they jack off to vietnamese cartoons.
Simple as that, it's a matter of ambitions and discipline.

>>105959016
no dude when companies throw insane amounts of money at something and when shills who are heavily invested in those companies say it's real, it is. just like the metaverse and just like blockchain. surely this tech bubble will be the second internet hopium that tech companies have been chasing.

>>105959186
kekd audibly
have a you

>>105959031
It's not just the US, in most western countries zoomers aren't ambitious at all. Maybe they know that to reach these levels a bachelor's degree is not enough anymore and they need to spend 5 years in a top school, graduate with highest grades, get a PhD and spend some years building a reputation by teaching/working.

And if you are not lucky you end up being a late 20-something/early 30 years old who is overqualified for any other profession and has pretty much skipped social life since high school.

>>105959446
>others do it so its ok
peak americanism

but the market doesnt give a shit
chinks do the curriculum
so its the chinks who get the jobs
idek why you wrote your previous post if it isnt some sort of dysfunctional cope

>>105958385 (OP)
They're not.
Yes. That's the idea.

>>105959446
>inb4 more cope
its not societal differences
in fact
chinks are even more demotivated than american't s
its 100% personal attitude
maybe population numbers play a role

>>105959031
>>105959446
Well, as a late 20 something who graduated with honours from his bachelors and did a masters, and can’t find any work that isn’t humiliatingly low pay and ridiculously high responsibility and hours with no prospect of progression, if I went back in time I wouldn’t do education knowing they give this shit to Chinese and Indian immigrants instead. I would have focused on lifting weights and fucking chicks or something idk. Or just sat at home and did nothing like I do now minus having to do 6 years of study.

I was perfectly ambitious and yet there are no opportunities. Though, I’m not in the US, I’m in Australia where it’s just worse in every fucking way except if you’re a tradie, nurse or teacher.

>>105958385 (OP)
Saar

Asian man good at math. Asian man best in the world at math. AI have much math. Asian man best pick for AI.

>>105959503
>went to the studies not to fuel a passion, learn skills/knowledge but to get a ticket to the workforce and stand in line for a wage
heres your problem

if that wasnt the case you would have built something on your own
if you cant figure out what to build/how
then youre a retard
and idc how many good goy certificates you have to your name

>>105958385 (OP)
non whites are like jannies. they do it for less / free

>>105958385 (OP)
the US is a nation built on immigrants, chuddy

>>105959518
retard.
with an inferiority complex
god this place becomes so depressing whenever i get banned
you retards just need someone to tell you to shut the fuck up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country

>>105959518
real answer

>>105959540
as joe rogan said, we are a nation of immigrants. fuck natives. worthless scum natives are. they are children and entitled brats. they don't understand work ethic like respect like immigrants do.

>>105959528
I’m a lawyer, lol. I want to help people. But in my country you can ONLY practice as a lawyer if you have 2 years experience being supervised by another lawyer. Nobody wants to do that, so I’m basically the metaphorical equivalent of being stuck on my provisional license as a driver.

Being acerbic and saying hee hee it’s your fault doesn’t get you or me anywhere nigga - that’s why I’m on the tech board trying to learn things and maybe do a project or two myself. If that gets me nowhere then idk what to do.

>>105958867
>what made Detroit the way it is?
Crappy cars.

>>105959546
half of that list are immigrants, just search for "born in" lmao cope.and the other half are in irrelenvant shit like economics, probably the ones figuring out how to fuck you over even more

>>105959488
it's being dealt with

>>105958422
Timmycels mad

>>105958385 (OP)
>Why are most of best AI researchers immigrants
Because the american schooling system is a joke, exacerbated by the fact that the american population both immigrant and native are one of the dumbest and stupider in the west, on par with shitskin hellholes.
Most of the technological advances made in the US came from european white immigrants that had no future in the EU because of no funding but in the US, with their fake economy they can achieve whatever goal they want, same shit with whatever other country in the world.

>>105958385 (OP)
Suddenly it makes sense how there has been zero progress in the software, and the only way models get better is to hook them up to enough APUs to require an entire fucking power plant

>>105959567
>on the tech board trying to learn things
nigga, I have worked for 10 years in webdev. I would never fucking ever take advice from this shithole. this place is for shitposting only. if you want to switch to tech, talk to AI, unironically.

>>105959471
I didn't mean that it's ok and yes maybe it's a big cope about my personal experience. As >>105959503 said, if I could go back I'd probably choose something different. I have bachelor's in CS and a master in Math. I could have been a researcher just like the chinks in the pic but since I wasn't good enough I have to spend my time teaching high school kids how to do basic algebra. At least I have plenty of free time and annual leave, though...

>>105958635
>>105958765
>>105958876
good morning saar

>>105959610
Wish this would happen to me ngl

>>105959031
Do jeets really believe this? If so, why are you so much cheaper than Whites?

>>105959610
topkek
fucken neetpocalypse
>>105959605
>half of that is irrelevant shit
yeah
despite that, ric ecels just dont exist on this list
exception: japan evendoe they suck when you compute nobels per capita
swedistan has like 10M people how possibly could they beat japan who have 10x that number?

and we can go beyond that
chinkcels- le big civilisation

but its MAXWELL equations
its GAUSSIAN blur
its SCHWARTZSCHILD radius
its AVOGADRO number

not
JIAO'S equations
fucken XI's blur
or CHANG radius lamao

>>105959731
>CS and a master in Math
how possibly can you be a wagie?
all sorts of engineering are open to you
you have cs so you can design the hw AND the sw
you could write games
you could go into finance
theres so much you could do
but instead of that you sit on your ass and whine
like a femoid crying, sitting on the curb, hopin for a white knight to take pity and provide for her

use your fucking brain
or really youre just a retard with a worthless piece of paper
a walking man page destined to be a tool for someone else

>>105958385 (OP)
>2 Russians
>the rest are Chinese, Indian or Jewish
Are white people just not as smart as they would like to think they are?

>>105959951
no, its just that llms are kinda worthless
these people post papers to get a foot in the door of the industry
real players dont because you dont share your trade sercrets ;)

>>105959951
btw
symbolic is what the party's at
alsways was
ML is something you throw at the problem when you lack ideas or capabilities
and i dotn give half a shit about what the hype says, ive been in the mix since before llms were shilled
think: talks from deloitte in my school, about the subject of ML NN in 2019

>>105958385 (OP)
So they get paid more than famous sport athletes while staying anonymous? Kind of based.

>>105959610
Honestly, if this happened to me, I'd shoot them.

>>105959610
lmao what

top three american surnames on the list
>Friedman
>Hu
>Mayer-Hirschfeld

>>105958385 (OP)
Those are the only ones who bother getting advanced degrees

we had a decade of move fast and break things dropouts scamming VCs for react apps

order is finally being restored

goddammit a computer science phd actually means something again

>>105960016
communism (tm)
leftie college trash should re-think what theyre wishing for lamao

>>105960033
(cont)
>inb4 but thats china
in my country of origin, during communism, if you didnt have a job you were given one
and if you still didnt work, you were sent to jail
or collective farms

>>105958894
Publish idea in Arxiv
Write code on github
Post on X
Get hired by big tech

>>105958385 (OP)
At the beginning of the 20th century, researchers were pop icons in usa an europe. Best time.
In Asia, education is still very important. In the West, everything revolves around money.

Asians are researchers.
Whites are shareholders.

Even as die-hard ultranationalist, I have to admit that at the very top scale, we should bring anyone in from any part of the world. But we're looking at a list of 44, maybe a few thousand across the different industries. But not tens of millions, enough to permanently modify the ethnic markup of the country.

>Isn’t this a national security risk
Only if you believe they may be socialists?
Come on you dumb fuck. You've had a world order since 1945, give over.
You've had the entire last 50 years dedicated to neoliberalism.

You only have to worry, if they think the same way the models do.

>>105960359
>Even as die-hard ultranationalist, I have to admit that at the very top scale, we should bring anyone in from any part of the world.
duh
its pretty much a given that all the best experts on a certain subject wont all come from your country

nationalism is not about racism
never was. its about getting whats best for your country and its people
in a way its democracy applied
the people exerting their will through the medium of a consensus, which is the state
with the goal of their own betterment
its just functioning democracy. you shouldnt think of nationalism as something fringe
its the default state

>>105958422
>Pick one
They picked one. It wasn't you. You're not even the best of the rest bud.

because china has a triple digit average iq and mogs the rest of the world in terms of stem students

>>105960481
>le triple digit ayy-queue

>>105960359
> at the very top scale, we should bring anyone in from any part of the world
Why? No, really. Why? Did we need to bring in shitskins and chinks to develop these technologies? Was there any point in the last few millennia in which their civilizations were more technologically advanced? What do we gain by taking in their outliers, who are still inferior to domestic engineers?

White Americans are completely outclassed in AI research (unless they want to start claiming Jewish people lmao). You see yuros here or there, but white burgers are too busy encouraging their children to become incel YouTubers or pursue CTE as a career.

>>105958385 (OP)
Because they're cheap.

>>105960009
>while staying anonymous?
Their names are all listed there.

>>105958385 (OP)
Watch, once meta unveils their bot, DeepSeek will magically release an exact replica. With Jews, you lose.

>>105961781
they can still go to Starbucks without getting harrassed by hot women

>>105960468
>nationalism is not about racism
For me it is.

>>105959610
neetbros??

>>105958385 (OP)
white people are becoming dumber.

>>105959610
fucking fascists

>>105958385 (OP)
you know

>>105959031
I'll translate it for you: it's because shinks and pajeets are willing to work 18 hours a day like a dog, sleep under their desk and wake up the next day to do it all again.

>>105958385 (OP)
people will cope endlessly on here, but elon musk is right
there are not enough intelligent or skilled whites to drive tech anymore, they have to outsource some intellectual labor to china and india

>>105958422
Lol

>>105963096
Let wignats cope online it's all they have left. They're deeply hurt their own elites are telling them they're worthless. Who knew poasting about politics and anime online while ethnic immigrants study and apply for jobs would lead to this.

>>105962130
They're just regressing back to their old ways :)

>>105961909
yeah well
thats not nationalism
which is even more radical than racism because race means shit
only the nation matters

>>105961796
No one from deepseek even lived in the west. Cope more wignat. Keep blaming da j00s kek.

>>105958385 (OP)
>Meta's Superintelligence team
Shame they still can't manage to make a new product to put Meta back on the radar in over 2 decades.
>m-muh VR
They bought out a successful company and then ran it into the ground

>>105962200
>Wignats: muh brown people are lazy and stupid
>Also wignats: how dare these Indians work longer and harder than me? We need DEI for wypipo!

>>105963742
>non retards:
>imagine fighting over a job

>>105959610
Unbelievably based. Fuck neets.

>>105959916
>but its MAXWELL equations
>its GAUSSIAN blur
>its SCHWARTZSCHILD radius
>its AVOGADRO number
Ramanujan summation
Mahalanobis distance
Kumaraswamy distribution
Attention is all you need (lead author is Indian)

>>105963772
Forgot one: BOSE-Einstein condensate

>>105963772
>picrel is what jeets ACTUALLY believe

>>105963772
>implying the above are equivalent to those at the bottom
(minus ramanujan. i heard he was a true genius, but the rest are a joke)

>>105959031
>It takes an incredible amount of skills, effort and determination to get hired by a US company with relocation. On the other hand, most (not all) of american zoomers/millenials are lazy and spoiled. They think that the whole world should be handed to them on a silver platter while they jack off to vietnamese cartoons.
Truth nuke
The exact same thing happened in the Roman empire. First century was all Italian born emperors like Augustus and Tiberius. 2nd century it was all Iberians like Trajan and Hadrian. 3rd century it was north Africans, Syrians and Philip the Arab. Then the Illyrian emperors. 4th century Theodosius sends loyal capable Goths to kill spoiled useless weak Romans. 5th century Rome collapses, German "barbarians" take over and rape all of Italy.

Jeets are the new cattle from the Pacific triangular trade. Don't envy their 76 IQ brain, they were only imported because they have no self-worth and would sell their village to get a firm handshake from a wealthy American. Blame your ever greedy elites, ready to destroy society for a bit of extra cash.

>>105963777
Modern LLMs are effectively an Indian invention. The lead author is Indian. The Google CEO is Indian. The engineers at Google are mostly Indian and Chinese. Cope all you want.

>>105963810
Does it hurt seeing Indians take over American tech like the Goths took over the late Roman army, timmy?

>>105963817
Nope, because you need self-direction to want something that is out of the reach of your 76 IQ brain. You can thank Elon and his clique for buying your kind at bargain prices.

>>105959610
>YOU WILL BE FIT
>YOU WILL FUCK
>YOU WILL HAVE A 70HR+ JOB
>YOU WILL DIE FOR YOU MANDATED GOV GIRLFRIEND FOR THE GLORY OF XI

>>105959567
>. But in my country you can ONLY practice as a lawyer if you have 2 years experience being supervised by another lawyer.

So you went through all the shit to be a lawyer, and then said fuck it because you can't handle 2 years internship? A practice that other professions and people go through in countries around world?

Unless you were aiming to do cases on Judge Judy, you're pretty retarded and why some requirements exist.

>>105958385 (OP)
Go get a gov security job. You quickly realize when you remove the ability for foreigners to apply, Americans are hard to get and fucking retarded in most cases.

>>105959610
Authoritarian but also kinda wholesome???

>>105958385 (OP)
americans are too stupid and lazy. immigrants work harder and dont complain about little things like americans. it's that simple.

>>105963734
You stupid nigger, the Chinese are a hivemind.

>>105963812
A jeet made that meme, I can smell it

>>105958385 (OP)
>>105958385 (OP)
>Why are most of best AI researchers immigrants?
basically racism, systemic injustice of the genome on neural development of certain races

>>105958385 (OP)
>260%

>>105958385 (OP)
Tech ceos love pajeets and chinamen, mostly because they just hate White people, but also because they can pay them marginally cheaper.

>>105958385 (OP)
95% of them cheated on their exams.
10 of them know what they doing.
The 10 that know what they're doing are getting paid the least.

>>105964431
ah so thats why he was (((let go)))

>>105959610
How tf you even reach this stage? Not trimming toenails is just retarded, hikki or not.

>>105963812
>LLMs are Indian invention
You have NO idea how article authorship works

>>105959016
Guarding LLMs might not be a big deal.
But you’d want to guard against those million dollar salaries if you don’t want another wave of inflation to fuck up your cost of living.

>>105958385 (OP)
It's crazy how much top AI researchers are paid, back in my day mathniggers were stuck with comparatively paltry salaries doing quant work.

>>105959503
>I’m in Australia
You're a mining colony and you wanted to do intellectual work. This is what you get for such a stupid decision. That's like someone from Tuvalu wanting to be a nuclear physicist.
Know your place, suck it up, and go pick up a hammer or a shovel, I don't care which.

>>105966340
>if you don’t want another wave of inflation to fuck up your cost of living.
its a drop in the bucket
try making your electricitry costs do x4 like they have in great britain
now thats an efficient inflation pump

>>105967160
shouldnt be a big deal
just hold a portfolio of your own

Take some courses on Coursera, publish on GitHub and you can get one of these positions too.

>>105959031
i always love the tough talk in these threads. the world's best and smartest and most desperate being funneled into america, and usa citizens are just supposed to put up with it. no where else in the world is expected to put up with this. not in china or india or anywhere else, where their best actually leave the country half the time. a completely unsustainable, short sighted iq shredder. of course a citizen isn't going to try compete with, it's not a good life

burgeranons, just hit them in the head with an ice pick

>>105958385 (OP)
>10$ per year
how do you even live on that

>>105961805
... is that a good thing?

Because they are the smartest

>>105958635
i'm working on it.

would suck to be the guy that only gets paid $10 tbqh

>>105959016
This looks like topology stuff that is baked into solidworks, and has been for 10+ years now.

>>105959610
Which bangbus episode is this?

>>105964448
This applies regardless of company or any races or nationalities involved.

>>105958385 (OP)
Consider for one moment, the possibility that races are actually all basically the same, and have a normal distribution of intelligence.
Then consider the relative populations.
Then you’re done.
Congrats, you got tricked by a literal FBI psyop into thinking race is real or matters. Despite things as simple and widespread as this showing it isn’t and doesn’t.

>>105958385 (OP)
Not poaching them from their native countries is also a national security risk

>>105970373
>t doesn't understand ND.

>>105963941
no, I don't think you understand, I'd be happy to do an internship. I can't. There are not enough to go around. This isn't a me problem this is across the entire industry. I've been working for 2 years as a paralegal already.

Go off about how you think I think I'm the only one that has to do an internship, saar.
>>105967627
We have to put up with it in Australia. The Europeans have to put up with it. The Canadians have to put up with it. Every white country has to put up with it. In Australia it's the top 1% of 2-3 billion chinese and indians, which is more than our entire population. That's just the top 1%. But of course you have niggers on reddit that talk about how we have to accept them because we just have to and they're better than us and they deserve it.

>>105958385 (OP)
>Israeli
>No degree

>Indian
>No degree
Hmmm...

>>105959610
Good stuff. The west needs this

>>105970541
Visa status: revoked twice

>>105970482
That is different than anon. Your entire post framed it as being too good for internship and should be good enough because you got a degree.

Your only fuck up in that case was getting into a highly nepotism based industry and not having strings of your own to pull.

And aren't you fucks getting chink flooded?

>>105958385 (OP)
because our would be experts become fin tech quants instead of grinding cheap education elsewhere

>>105964527
That kind of thing is usually a sign of serious mental or emotional issues, not just a reluctance to be a functioning adult. Chink culture is very good at dealing with the latter but not the former.

>>105958385 (OP)
There are way more Asians than White people, and Mark has had a bias towards Chinese for 10+ years now (his wife is Chinese, he asked Xi Jinping to name his daughter, etc.)