How are you supposed to conduct business online without having to deal with these fucks?

American express?

>>105961607 (OP)

Monero

>>105961607 (OP)
Accept fartcoin, wallet to wallet.

>>105961607 (OP)
You aren’t. We need banking neutrality laws. This has gone too far. I’m starting a PAC, fuck this shit.

Apparently EU is working on an alternative but you just know it will be as draconian with their T&Cs as visa and mastercard.

>>105961607 (OP)
>send cash to P.O. Box 1337, Someplace, FG.
Done.

>>105961610
Not accepted everywhere

>>105961622
Minecraft yourself

>>105961611
Thread ended right there.

>>105961607 (OP)
alipay
Russians still get to buy Steam games

>>105961633
>I can't wait 3 days for postage to clear
Dumb faggot. You people keep attempting to create solutions to problems that were solved a long time ago. I've been sending cash as payment for several services for years without any issues. There are hundreds of computer clubs that offer services like email, VMs, domains, BBS access and countless other services that have operated like this since the 1970s.

You aren’t, and if you try, you get kneecapped

>>105961662
Not when 95% of people refuse to figure out crypto.

>>105961607 (OP)
monero

>>105961607 (OP)
I rather like it when they bully me but they are in desperate need of correction

>>105961607 (OP)
So glad we don't have to deal with those fucks around here.

>>105961699
These creditcard brats need some correction ToT

>>105961611
the problem with crypto is it's not actually accessible to the masses, you have to go through visa or mastercard or the jewish banking system to onboard any, or do a shady p2p transaction of some sort with no recourse if you get scammed
selling anything for monero is a huge hassle because your customers have to know how to do it and trust it already, which only a small minority actually do

>>105961681
It would help if more than 0.00001% of it wasn’t a scam or usable only for very illegal things

I’m writing a paper on it.

>>105961619
>EU
lol
yeah it'll be far worse
the EU *hates* freedom

>>105961610
Amex attempted the same thing to DLsite a little while back.

they hate crypto...

>>105961607 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin

How do you guys use crypto for purchases for your daily needs? Please explain how I can buy things from doordash and amazon using crypto

>>105962426
I live in the Philippines and I can buy things on Shopee, which is basically Amazon tier here, using crypto via the biggest exchange in the country. I can also deposit it directly into my e-wallet which can then be used on the other biggest shopping site, Lazada, and the food delivery apps like Foodpanda and Grab. I am from the US so I know how it all works with having a bank account, debit card, etc. But it could all be a fuck of a lot easier. It just isn't because society is locked into the same old ways of doing things.

>>105962513
The Philippines is so cool. I want to save up $20k and retire there at the age of 30

>>105961607 (OP)
only take payment in money orders mailed to you like a reasonable person

>>105962337
>muh buttcoin
The biggest porn site that has ever existed said there weren’t even enough crypto purchases to keep their servers running when they had to go crypto-only.

>>105962650
>money orders
>reasonable

Hello eBay seller, I will be mailing you a money order for one overpriced gameboy game. Thank you

>>105962513
How do you get from your paycheck in, idk philipinos or whatever, into crypto?

>>105961607 (OP)
You literally can't.
>B-but amex and discover

>>105961607 (OP)
Cryptocurrencies.

>>105962337
>higher fees than even the most Jewish middle man
Where do you retards come from?

>>105962809
It's easy. I could walk to 7-11 and load money into my coins.ph account. Then I can buy crypto with their app. Exchange rate might not be as good as some other ways of buying crypto but it's hard to beat the convenience. People pay me with GCash for various things too and I can transfer that to coins.ph and buy crypto.

>>105962822
>Just hope the shitcoin has enough liquidity to offramp to USD with low slippage and the exchange doesn't charge even higher fees than square or stripe
None of you have ever actually done this.

>>105961607 (OP)
Don't sell any adult stuff

>>105961607 (OP)
You can't unless you take only crypto and cash, which will drive away 99% of your business.

>>105962843
…wow I hate America.

>>105962857
>wow I hate a country with functioning anti money laundering laws
Then leave, nigga.

>>105961607 (OP)
carrier pigeon dead drop hybrid meta.

>>105962850
I use it to buy prescription meds because I’m too schizo for doctors, but I just accept massive transaction costs as part of doing grey market shit.

>>105961607 (OP)
how do russians, chinks, and pajeets manage?

>>105962875
Money laundering is a fictional concept made up in 1986 because cops are too lazy to do their fucking jobs.
It makes no more sense than cutting off someone’s power because they beat their wife. It’s silly and it’s unconstitutional. There’s no such thing as dirty money.

>>105961662
It was a bogus thread to begin with. OP is a pedophile that is having a shitfit over /g/, /v/ and /pol/ over the fact that people managed to get his garbage loli pedo incest games pulled from Steam. He's literally paying for porn like some muppet.

>>105961607 (OP)
At least for coomerslop on D-List or whatever my Discover just acts like a JCB card and it's been solid ever since Visa / MasterCard started sperging out

>>105962916
Right, because we're all retards here.

>>105962947
>I have no argument so I’ll just be a cunt
>gottem

>>105962875
No and I'll keep doing my laundry. The state deserves nothing

>>105962951
>there is no such thing as consequences for my actions because I said so
I mean, how do you argue against such genius?

>>105962968
Can't help but notice you keep using the roads to navigate you freeloading cunt.

>>105963041
He's Jewish, please understand...

>>105963060
>Jewish
>Paying taxes
lmao

>>105963041
>nooooooooooo you can’t just conduct your business, finance is the fourth branch of government now
>nooooooooooo you can’t just operate outside the fourth branch, where are you going
Laws are a spook, get sterilized and die

>>105963214
>n-noo you don't get it I can rationalize nihilism kind of... have you read Hegel?

India and China does not have this problem
stop relying on judenstructure

>just start your own bank bro

>>105964098
Tensor art just shut down nsfw because of visa
Try again

>>105961607 (OP)
Stablecoins literally just got legitimised two days ago by the GENIUS Act, just keep pestering Valve and all other online stores to accept them. They can't have the same argument against Stablecoins they did to other crypto because they aren't volatile. Stablecoins will be the hammer needed to break the hold of Visa and Mastercard.

>>105961607 (OP)
Don't.
Use cash instead like a real man.

>>105963041
Yeah and neither the state nor megacorps are repairing them nowadays. You have literal communities that come together to work around these assholes that pay no tax and don't do their job while getting paid in tax money or interest.

But it's not a protection racket amirite?
Btw, these assholes also cause more harm to people than any media form. They literally censor the abuse of kids IRL nowadays for the sake of preventing child abuse nowadays. Ironic right?
These fuckheads even cause my own abuse to me as a child.

And they have the gall to pretend they are doing this to protect children? Yeah fuck off. Your MIC causes more abuse of kids than anything fucking else. Fucking rats.

>>105964521
>my 1s and 0s will take down the banking cartel
Why won't you people just admit that there are a handful of families that should have been murdered hundreds of years ago?

It isn't even hard to find out who those families are or how they made all the modern western countries debt slaves to them. They openly brag about not caring who makes the laws as long as they can control the money.
>but muh 1s and 0s aren't fiat!!!
Yeah and no one gives a fuck about them unless you can convert them into USD or some other currency that relies directly on the USD to be worth anything.

Go ask Japan how well that's working out for them.

>>105964275
He did nothing wrong and his UN speech is still one of the bravest things I've ever witnessed in my entire life. Shame no one bothers to watch it despite the fact that it's fully translated and available on youtube or all places. He even predicted the madness of 2019-2020 a decade before it happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBRqqa7ZpeQ

>>105964521
Do you think it’s still 2016?
Any of the ways to accept crypto have acceptance for usdc and most other stablecoins built in. That isn’t the problem. The problem is people that don’t use crypto find the on-ramps too confusing and sketchy.

>>105963041
>muh roads
Barely a fraction of a percent of taxes goes towards maintaining roads.

>>105964521
>>105962906
>>105962855
>>105962822
>crypto
>the only on-ramp and way to accept crypto that normgroids aren’t absolutely terrified of has more restrictions than fucking stripe
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/prohibited_use

Maybe stop funding your own fucking speculation and insider trading and stop fucking the economy up. Then maybe we'd listen to these assholes and their requests.
Your system, your financial system ruined my childhood and it's obnoxious that these assholes think they can suddenly wipe the blood off their hands. Everyone knows, the jig is up. You are a cartel. That is it. Thugs. Crooks. Rapists.

You know all the fucking things they pretend users of FAKE media are. They do the REAL fucking shit and cause the REAL fucking shit all the time.
But they somehow have the gall to shame you for bullshit because you look at drawn lines on a screen or a page.
Meanwhile, their system has been facilitating REAL child abuse the entire fucking time and none of these measures will prevent any of that shit because they are a real threat to the community and therefore them personally.

Fuck you, faggots.
Administrators need to fucking die already. Do us all a favour.

>>105964547
My favorite part of the
>muh roads
argument is these idiots don't realize the taxes for them are supposed to be taken out when you purchase gasoline. You could go your entire life avoiding paying anything but sales tax and still be funding the roads. It's impossible to avoid sales tax after all since you're robbed of it at the point of purchase.

>>105964571
Them doing the real shit is why they lose their mind over any form of porn.

>>105961607 (OP)
Sorry buddy it's illegal not to support israel.

>>105964574
They don't even fucking repair the fucking roads. Often insurance or some other shit that has to brunt the cost and do it because these fuckheads just blew all the money paying people to curb on violent words and scary movies.
Imagine the amount of money we would all save and how much better our roads would be if this government just fucking ceased to be at this stage. Probably a million times better because then no legal tethers would hold up the people actually improving these things in the end back.

>>105961607 (OP)
Wero

>>105964582
Of course, the real fucking goal is to keep people misinformed and violent shit in media teaches people just how bad these assholes are. Can't have that.


Btw they've already been caught using ESG bullshit to fucking cover up the Gazan situation. A literal genocide of women and children.
Not to mention the ukraine situation.
Oh and whatever they've fucking done with covid and the jabs. Who fucking knows at this stage because whenever the public has access to information about this shit, they shut it fucking down for the sake of "preventing hysteria" or some other bullshit that is really just a front to cover up how many fucking lies they tell and how corrupt they are. Fuck these people ay. They just won't fucking stop annoying us and let us get on with our lives. Fuck them.

>>105964588
Yes I'm fully aware the roads are shit. I actually prefer them that way. Plus I'm also aware that communities maintained their own roads just fine before the IRS and daddy Government came along with their scam.

There is an old road that runs through my property that used to be the main road in this area for 200+ years until the state built one (which they don't maintain). I haven't used it much and it's still passable. I bet it'll still be there 200 years from now. Since trees and pretty much everything else refuses to grow on it because the animals still use it as a path. You don't even need to build a road. If people and animals use it as foot path it maintains itself. Same is true of horses and cars of course.

>>105961607 (OP)
>How are you supposed to conduct business online without having to deal with these fucks?

Problem, chud? Cant buy those rape-male gaze dominant-objectification games you love so much? Well, this is just the beginning, it will get way worse for you and your hobbies.

>>105964651
Fun fact, banning porn directly increases rape and child sexual abuse.

>>105962916
meds

>>105964614
> Plus I'm also aware that communities maintained their own roads just fine before the IRS and daddy Government came along with their scam.
Actually, it was, where I lived, mainly the government before this shite state of affairs - when we let them mingle and fuck with the banking system and their NGO dogs, that just leveraged themselves in the government and bottlenecked the flow of money for the sake of convenient surveillance and general racketeering... which btw did nothing to the real crooks and just forced everyone else into the surveillance/racket system.
Why not attack THAT shit first. It literally trafficks kids.

No, instead they gotta was millions or billions in tax payer dollars (which the begger pays nowadays with GST and which they DON'T pay through their offshore accounts) leveraging their too big to fail scams. And when you're not obediently licking their balls, they get mad and take away more and more of your liberties while having the gall to tell you that they're doing this for the improvement of our society.
Maybe if they all committed to sudokuing themselves this society MIGHT actually improve for once. Maybe stop rubbing our face in their turds and this economy might improve. Maybe stop fucking suffocating everyone with your lie scheme and we might actually get off this fucking rock instead of all collectively dying of disease and pollution slowly.

But instead of tackling the state and corporate abuse that gave most people their horrific habits and whatnot, they instead target their only ways of coping with the trauma. Their only outlets.
Keep doing that and their only outlet might be seeing the government blown into smithereens. Maybe then they might get away from the shit that has been mentally scarring the population for decades now.

>>105962822
the only coin that is actually used in day to day transactions is stable coin in south america because of their inflated meme monopoly money, and let me tell you no retarded crypto bro was responsible for that adaption
biggest processors of crypto are in fact visa and mastercard

>>105962916
Jews?

>>105964656
And it doesn't stop the already illegal real cp from being proliferated either, instead it increases the value and production of it.
Let's just assume this is a giant con by actual child sex traffickers trying to grow their market at this stage. It clearly fucking is, because that's all that this shit is doing.

Kids are going to literally be harmed from this shit. They have to know that at this stage.
>but their jobs require obediently enforcing content controls or else they lose it
They couldn't even not do this if they wanted to, because they know they are in too deep and their job revolves around calling things satan and then burning it at the stake. Only this time they're just satan burning lesser satans at this stage.

>>105964685
It is. You’re just so young you were brought up taking it for granted. It isn’t real.

>>105961607 (OP)
Bank transfers.

>>105962916
>It makes no more sense than cutting off someone’s power because they beat their wife
No anon this is even dumber.
They're cutting off your power because this person beats their wife. They're still going to beat their wife and they will still have power.

But you won't. As intended btw, it's just machiavellianism and it's probably related to OPSEC. Nothing to do with kids either. That shit won't even be stopped.
What will be stopped is you talking about Gaza and talking about Israel in a negative slant.

It's not like we haven't had this situation of content control in the past and ironically it gassed jews. So I guess that's what they want, more gassed jews.

>inb4 they censor the holocaust because of child abuse related reasons
The news is traumatic. There's no difference to censoring the holocaust than there is to censoring porn if the goal is to ease trauma.

>no it's ok to have this trauma!
Is what they will try to justify this bullshit with. It's ok when they decide on the trauma.
Isn't this how child predators behave btw? They selectively traumatise their victims. How this any different to actual predators and their behaviour at this stage. Selective conditioning.

If they wanted to curb child abuse, then start with shutting down the fucking military and government, the largest producers of child abuse in any state. That's how my childhood got fucked.

>>105964566
No way nigga, you're still using coinbase in the year of our lord 2025
Just use p2p

>>105964805
I specifically said the one that isn’t scary to normal people. I haven’t had to onramp in forever, but taking payments in crypto, the only one that doesn’t feel like a “sketchy black market transaction where I have to copy and paste stuff I don’t understand” is coinbase’s payment system. Which has as restrictive requirements as stripe.

>Don't try to pull of pathetic scams
>Can be part of society
Really simple solution.

>>105964805
LEARN TO READ YOU ILLITERATE CUNT

>>105962152
The EU killed Apple's lightning connector bullshit so I can accept some leeway in their view of what freedom entails.

>>105964651
Collective Shout is run by TERFs. That fact alone means they lose the moral high ground in all scenarios.

>>105961701
>>105964761
Based. Fuck credit card companies.

>>105961699
*unzips pants*

>>105963060
>if you don't give the jewish money your jewish boss gave you back to jews via taxes then you are jewish

>>105961607 (OP)
crypto

>all these faggots saying to use crypto

Yeah sorry lame boys, we don't live in your make believe cyberpunk future. Most places don't take your monopoly money

Stablecoins are literally tied 1:1 with fiat currency, they aren't subject to the same retarded volatility shit like bitcoins and other cryptocurrency. The law that was passed 2 days ago in the US even legitimizes their use.

>>105961681
>>105962227
>>105962337
>>105962822
Why isn't entry to crypto markets made easier? Many banks are working against it as well

>>105964761
That feels like you're being watched and you might have to call them to enable international transfers. Just one big humiliation ritual. Fuck the banks

>>105961770
i just want to also add that for business that get crypto payment, what are they going to do, not pay taxes? not keep books?

it sucks

>>105966052
you know why, dumbass

>>105964535
>>105964275
https://files.catbox.moe/11czqm.mp4

his speech to the arab league is haunting too. he predicts his own death a 1:32 lol. poor dude.

I don't

>>105961607 (OP)
paypal, EMV debit direct to bank, checque, wire transfer, apple pay, android pay, google pay, crypto

>>105961611
Soon to be outlawed in EU

>>105962940
yes, I'm sure this definitely won't snowball

>>105961611
>>105968162
What's so special about it? How does it differ from other cryptocurrencies?

>>105968259
it's actually private, you can't search an account and all the transactions it made, you can't associate any two transactions to create a money trail

>>105968259

With regular crypto you can tie a wallet to a person and find out how much crypto they have and all the transactions the make.

With Monero every wallet is private and every transaction is private.

At least don't use them in shops. Use cash. The financial firms extract from you via negative real interest on cash/deposits, and fees, and percentages on card payments, and by selling you funny papers that go bankrupt, and so on. I don't want that the banks and the rest of the financial firms make money.

>>105968305
Good point. Bet these credit card companies and their banker partners are lobbying hard against continued cash use for full control and increased profit

>>105967746
>Man gives greatest speech I've ever seen
>BTFOs the UN
>everyone clapped
>US media that night: "HE WENT ON INSANE RANT!"
>they show a 10 second clip from a hour and a half speech and compare him to Hitler
>Dude refused to stay in luxury hotel in NYC or do the cocaine or fuck the hookers they kept trying to send over
>"lol don't worry about me I brought my own tent"
>they claim he's "crazy man living in tent"
>tent looks comfy as fuck
>they bully him the entire time he's in-country and make him move his tent like 3 times
>once from private land
>few years later they start up war when he tries to put his country back on gold standard
>not long after that they show US Army raping his bleeding asshole with bayonet on television
>"It's a great day for democracy!"

I'll never forget his sacrifice for us all.

>>105968162
I will use it anyway because I am not a sissy leddit legalist.
>t. europoor

>>105964946
TERF is a made up tranny word. It’s run by and funded by the christschizo right.