Thread 105963947

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archieve, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Moondrop Chu 2 (Room Curve) $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $20
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>105859968

>>105963947 (OP)
close enough, welcome back chuzo

>>105963947 (OP)
>Bluekaka
>Not blueshit
Explain this.

The audio messiah will be the person who ushers in techs into the skulls of non believers.

Truthear Pure graphs. No smoothing because something fucked up is happening at 8-9K and I think I hear it too. I've never seen anything like this before. You can see it in some of the graphs on squiglink as well if you turn down smoothing to 0.

>>105963947 (OP)
Correct Previous Thread, Sorry!
>>105953141

>>105963923
well person who talked about it didn't elaborate about the specific but we've seen the results in his EQ

>>105964015
schizo babble

>>105964007
is it still there when you change insertion depth?

>>105964022
Yes its always present, I tried changing tips and insertion depth.

>>105963914
it's really not a bad question. they test their mixes on more than just one or two sets of reference speakers. the point is to make sure whatever mix they're working on sounds fine across the board, a car, tv, all the different headphones that exist. it's still up to the driver(s) to accurately replay what was intended in the mix and that's the gratifying part of using our gear. fuck. their job is the audio being crafted, not what damn speakers or headphones they think they can make that should be badass. that's a different mentality entirely. beats by dre is an anomaly because nigger rap shit is the easiest to market, plus, apple.

>>105963718
i can see that, even i don't eq that much
i have a collection based purely on isolation and build quality
>>105963745
jm1 assumes that there is no need for further compensation (ie that iems and speakers will sound the same provided they measure the "same" in their respective sound fields)
i think more testing should be done, but the variants on jm1 seem to perform quite well against other targets so we'll see
>>105964007
>>105964025
if possible show it with the shallowest/deepest insertion, i want to see how the feature is alone
also are your measurements usually this noisy? i know it's not smoothed but that seems like a lot of noise in the midrange

>>105964025
heh
that's techs

>>105963965
>why are you resistant to the idea that there might be others
Because audio was fucking SOLVED DECADES ago. How the fuck do you newfags not fucking get it?
There were like 3 things relevant to sound quality (which we know of because of decades of audio fucking research)
>FR
>distrotion
>and I literally forgot what it's so irrelevant and was solved already
For IEMs basically everything is solved other than FR and FR is solved with personalized EQ.
Measurements is not a new thing newfag. Everything that can be measured in any audio system was already researched and measured and correlated to hearing.

>>105964007
please show us the GD tab on REW

>>105964126
psychoacoustics are old as fuck dipshit

>>105964059
Depends on the measurement volume, I bumped measurement volume by around 10dB for these ones and there's less noise. I don't usually measure too far above my regular listening volume.
I also have AC and sometimes a fan running which probably doesn't help.

Which audio path is cleaner?
Float32 On (left) or Float32 Off (right)
I don't understand what the point of this setting would be.

>>105964116
>Okay, there's actually multiple things that matter more than FR, including something that I don't even know
You're so close to understanding.

>>105964144
yeah just an observation
the small blip at 8-9 khz really does look strange. does anyone have the crossover points for the hexa? maybe it's the same one used here and we can figure out something

>>105964059
>jm1 assumes that there is no need for further compensation
that's false. jm-1 comes with preference bounds and is literally made for further EQ to your preference.
meanwhile harman ie 2019 is a preference target that suppose to fit the tastes of most people. It also comes with variants from harman research. Like infamous class 3 listeners and all that.

>>105964132
Not seeing much.

>>105964154
No retard. Where did I say that they "matter more"? It's the opposite. They were solved decades ago and not matter anymore at all.
You literally know nothing about shit you are trying to discuss. None of it is new ideas.
And why the fuck are you even arguing??? You can measure distortion easily. Meanwhile you propose some retarded immeasurable "driver techs".
Just shut the fuck up clown

>>105964157
i'm not talking about that, i'm referring to the common explanation of iems needing more bass due to lack of "tactile feedback"
with the newer standards i think it's showing that the bass delta between headphones and iems is mostly due to acoustic impedance accuracy but i'd prefer having more research done.

>>105964180
well sure
too bad nobody is doing any fucking research

>>105964179
Saar, please do the needful and enroll in English classes before attempting to carry on a technical discussion.

>>105964171
>that scaling
adjust it my friend

>>105964187
meh, recent moa study by harman shows some variance in filters yet again
i'm more interested in their ear canal research, sounds very promising. sucks that i can't attend this aes headphone conference

>>105964155
Conspiracy theory: Truthear got tips on tuning from some random dude, as mentioned in previous threads, but they didn't have time to totally rework the IEM. Whatever bandaid fix they came up with produced a FR anomaly and they specifically moved that blip to 8K because that's where most people put the insertion depth peak on squig so smoothing would hide the issue.
>>105964192
Sure but its still lower than the noise in the midrange.

>>105964207
that's not a conspiracy, didn't listener confirm he worked with them on the tuning?
yeah that gd feature leads me to believe this is a crossover issue then

>>105963947 (OP)
Are those any good?
I'd get blue feces if they're good

>he still doesn't understand the differences he hears after "EQing to the same FR" are just FR and can be EQd by ear
Genuine dementia.

>>105964199
>by harman
how about all the rest of them? nobody is even applying harman research unless some influencer screams at chinese manufacturers
>i'm more interested in their ear canal research, sounds very promising. sucks that i can't attend this aes headphone conference
where are the articles tho

>>105964222
>didn't listener confirm he worked with them on the tuning
he talked to their engineer and convinced him not to make another harman pos and instead "improve" on hexa
that's literally all "work" he's done

>>105964383
he'll never understand that lol

>>105964003
Rick target

>>105964383
>>105964422
>Two headphones with the same FR actually have different FR

>>105964688
Yes? We told you this how many times by now? Even shown you the pictures?

>every thread its just this gay argument over and over again
hey rusbum better watch out for ukrainian drones they hurt a lot more than your giant dildos

>>105964144
This looks like drivers have very different distances to the nozzle and don't add up properly, but I find it hard to believe something like this can exist inside an IEM since they're so small.

>>105964715
>FR doesn't represent what you actually hear and that's why FR is the only thing that measures what you actually hear

>>105964878
>I can't read
This merely means you can't buy by graph. 2 pos need 2 different graphs to sound the same.

>>105964878
Delusions about driver quality, technicalities and all the other audiofool drivel is not an alternative for FR measurements

>>105964903
Okay, so we agree that FR graphs are irrelevant and you should EQ whatever pos you buy to your preference regardless of its factory tuning or lack thereof.

>>105964913
Yes. EQ is not optional. If you chase stock graphs you might accidentally end up with some bulky distorting pos that will still need EQ anyway.

>>105963947 (OP)
>Hall of Fame
>• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100
Please stop shilling Etymotics ER2XRs
they sound like listening to music coming from a room from the outside
there's absolutely zero detail above the bass
20$ garbage sometimes sounds better
please remove them from the consoomer guide

>>105964939
The eartips collapsed inside your ear, etys are anything but bassy.

>>105964942
Where did I say they were bassy?

>>105964932
but enough about the q1pro

>>105964963
Obsessed.

>>105964979
obsessed with ukrainian cruise missiles decimating vatnik ziggers

>>105964939
>>105964959
you are saying retarded nonsense like
>there's absolutely zero detail above the bass
and probably is just deaf of stupid

what are the newest spinfit tips? I think I got the wrong ones cause I see omni, W1, CP100 etc. or is it all just preference at this point? cause I just got some new wireless IEMS that actually can use these tips and want whats most comfortable

>>105964939
Headphone users are disqualified from having opinions, sorry.

>>105965031
>I think I got the wrong ones
which ones did you get?
>whats most comfortable
up to the individual
also some tips will work better with some IEMs but not the others

>>105965037
I know, IEMs just can't compete.

>>105965079
lmao
post your headphones so we could all laugh at you
coward

>>105965079
True.

>>105965122
DT880s. Problem ? They sound light years ahead of this cheap Etymotic garbage.

>>105965151
Bruh.

tremendous bait, barely managed to hold in my rage

>>105965052
I got the Small W1's, and while they fit pretty well with my Moondrop robins, I usually use Mediums or Large's

>>105965181
There's no reason to rage, I just provide you with information you should be thankful for.

>>105965151
classic class 3 listener moment...

>>105963947 (OP)
bluekaka my beloved

>>105965151
based

>>105965031
spinfits have small nuanced differences in shape / material. also you should look at dimension size charts for tips, not just go by small / medium

>>105965151
You are a moggernaut. An alchemist. A child of the stars. Reconnect with the soundstage.

>>105964007
Oh wow, a pos with good channel matching, EPZ troons, our response?

>>105965348
>praises literally unfixable pos for channel balance
L M A O

>>105965386
>even unfixable pos solved channel matching

>>105963947 (OP)
wtf is room curve

>>105965608
these should be in the OP under flathead earbuds desu, they beat out nearly every flathead under $100.
>erm but they're not actually flatheads!
close enough

>>105966046
When you place flat speakers in a real room when you measure them they'll have a downward tilt and subbass boost. The shape depends on the reflectivity of the walls, the size of the room, the distance of the speakers from the walls, the distance of the speakers from you, the off-axis response of the speakers, etc. In theory you should notice that overall curve and fix all major deviations from that curve, in practice there are still different preferences of bass and treble.

>>105966155
so is this a shitpost then that $20 moonderp IEMs are supposed to replicate speakers in a room?

>>105966175
You need some kind of curve for IEMs to sound tonally correct. But it will never be like speakers.

Been using Space Travel 2 with spring tips for a day now.

The good:
>they now remember ANC settings when putting them back into the case
>slightly better range and signal stability, slightly better ANC
>much better battery life
>audible instant feedback for touch controls
>the new app offers a variety of useful features, and you can download EQ presets from other users

The bad:
>transparency mode is much worse now for some reason
>out of the box tuning is too warm for my taste
>the open case still sucks

>>105966267
>the open case still sucks
Yeah, they are trying to jew you into buying a case for your case (which costs almost as much as the pos itself IIRC).
Or you can 3D print yourself a ghetto DIY case I guess.
On that note, are 1st gen "outer" cases compatible with 2nd gen charging case?

Productive weekend impressions part 1:
For the sake of brevity I used Azla Crystals for every set.

>Thieaudio Hype 10
Classic Thieaudio V-shape house sound. Surprisingly it is not as bassy as the Hype 4 – both pos graph similarly – but I didn’t get that distinct “Hype 4 bass slam” with the Hype 10, which resulted in a more tonally neutral timbre. Treble extension is also surprisingly good, to my ears it is smoother and more extended than the Hype 4’s.

There’s nothing to nitpick: Mids are tonally correct, there’s no weird resonance peaks, and it is perfectly resolving. Very underrated set, I’d pick this over the Monarchs, Prestiges, Divinity, Valhalla etc. 10/10.

But I’m retroactively lowering my rating of the Hype 4 to a 9/10. The Hype 10 is an audible improvement and a more balanced take on the V-shape sound signature.

>Thieaudio Hype 2
Relatively “flatter” and more neutral than the Hype 4 & 10. Female vocals sounds a little laid-back, and its treble air isn’t as extended. The Hype 2 is also the thinnest-sounding of the bunch, and its bass quality/texture suffers as a result.

As a standalone set the Hype 2 is decent, but having A/B’d all three Hype pos back-to-back, the compromises are quite audible. 7/10.

>Artpical Blue Planet
Bright V like a planar. Very enjoyable sub and mid-bass: it’s “fast”, punchy, and controlled. The Blue Planet is allegedly some custom double-sided planar driver (that’s what I was told but Artpical’s site claims a 12mm ribbon driver?), but it doesn’t have the typical chifi planar zing like the S12, Timeless etc. I still get some of that 7.5kHz peak and sibilance in the “S” and “SH” of female vocals but I’m willing to tolerate it because the treble presentation of the Blue Planet is to die for: shimmery and detailed, from the initial transient to the decay. Imo it’s even better than the likes of the Annihilator/Traillii/Volk Etoile. Truly summit-fi resolution. 11/10.

>>105966456
>are 1st gen "outer" cases compatible with 2nd gen charging case?
they are exactly the same, so yes

>>105966175
uuh not really? If you have a speaker set up you can EQ any IEM to it by ear and it will sound like 90% the same.

>>105966595 (me)
Part 2:

>Moritz Enzo (Switch: down-down config)
Harman adjacent. Quite the bassy set: bass quantity and texture are handled well and reminds me of more expensive sets like the AK Novus and Hercules Moses. However, the treble is egregious – the initial transient sounds “crispy” whilst masking the finer details in the decay. I blame the elevated lower treble which causes snare drums to sound like maracas.

The 8kHz~9kHz region is unnatural-sounding which hurts detail retrieval and resolution.
While the low-end and mids are good, the distinct lack of air is a dealbreaker and should not happen with a set costing $1370. 6/10.

>Dita Audio Prelude
Neutral. But very thin-sounding. Treble also sounds artificial. But somehow this $160 set manages to have more treble air than the Enzo.

Unfortunately, the Prelude has some of the shittiest bass I’ve ever heard – maybe even worse than the Hexa. This 1DD has nothing going for it, I’d pick the Salnotes Zero 1, Gate, Wan’er 2 over it. 3/10.

>Nostalgia Audio Pendragon
Super warm-poo set just like the Rossi&Wing First Light. Though the Pendragon has a tasteful pinna bump so female vocals don’t get drown out.

Impressions are similar to that of the Nostalgia Tesseract, desu the Pendragon just sounds like a refresh of Nostalgia’s previous flagship. Though I do like the BCD implementation on the Pendragon more, instrumental texture is godlike and brings physicality to classical tracks.

As usual, this lower-mid centric tuning is incredibly muddy for modern pop/rock but it’s a 10/10 for classical and orchestral.

>>105966230
>>105966603
just seems weird everything else in the OP is described as V shape, U shape, neutral, warm, etc. and that one's described as "room curve"

>>105966644
Didn't even notice. It's from the days of chu 2 shitposting, it's not tuned to a room curve, you are meant to tune it to DF+ room curve with EQ.

>>105966644
ah you are talking about that yeah that's a shitpost
all the "mild V" shit is questionable too

>>105966600
Could have been worse. Wouldn't be surprised if they changed some dimensions of gen2 charging case by a mm or two to make it incompatible with gen1 cases.

Do planar iem need amp or phone can do just fine for it?

Normie here. Hexa are advertised to be neutral but frequencies between 200hz and 500hz seem boosted. That makes them too warm for my taste. Is there anything "truly" neutral under 200 dollars? I've been having a lot of fun with my planar sets (Dioko and Kz pr2). I just got myself a pair of salnotes zero because I wanted to try them

waiting for QKZ x HBB to arrive O w O

>>105967126
I hope they didnt stealth revise them anon

Never compromise

>>105964913
>fr is irellevant
>you need to eq
pick one, you fuck tard. I can't believe you guys were arguing over this all night

>>105967037
depends on sensitivity.

>>105967190
30 ohm and 104Db.

>>105965608
Obsoleted by fox IEM.

>>105967061
>frequencies between 200hz and 500hz seem boosted
where?
>Is there anything "truly" neutral under 200 dollars
Neutrality is a complicated thing
Hexa is tuned to JM-1 target with -0.8 dB/octave tilt and a bit of subbass boost. So it's neutral in a sense that it's tuned to population average diffuse field.
Something truly neutral for you would be IEM that is tuned to your personal HRTF which is rather unrealistic.
If you think 200-500Hz region is boosted just try to apply a simple EQ there and see if it'll improve the situation.
>Dioko and Kz pr2
yikes
both of this awful POS are pretty far from neutrality... I'd describe them both as shoutcannons earrape even lol
>salnotes zero
they are similar to hexas in a sense but with a relaxed mids maybe you'll like them more

>>105967338
Furries really are such disgusting creatures that infest every hobby and community

>>105967329
you're fine. loud enough, even for a planar.

>>105967329
>30 ohm and 104Db.
That's basically nothing, any phone jack will do just fine.

>>105967381
>pr2
>earrape
a few different versions of the pr2 exist, where after they removed the mesh, they touched nothing else and released pr2 as is. then they revised it again by doing some tweaks to the pcb itself and that revision mitigated the 'shouty'ness. it's the one I have and I still enjoy the hell out of my pr2. it makes the prx pale in comparison. but that's just me, thought I'd clarify

>>105967381
What's wrong with my planar sets?
To my ears they sound brighter but also more "analytical" I think. I can definitely understand what's going on more reliably, even when lots of stuff happens together. Idk if it's the planar driver speed. The cymbals sound clear and detailed. I mean I love my planar sets and I'm probably gonna stick with them, it's just I don't get why I don't like hexa and I why I don't like consumer bass boosted stuff. The planar sets I have remind me of my studio monitor because I feel like everything is fast and clear

>>105967612
>everything is fast and clear
>what's wrong?
you explained why your planar sets are actually good, so you tell us.

>>105967612
>What's wrong with my planar sets?
you tell me
>The cymbals sound clear and detailed
with treble like that you are listening to just cymbals lol
>I don't like hexa and I why I don't like consumer bass boosted stuff
I think you have a class 3 listener case... They prefer 3 db less bass and more treble. There's nothing really to understand here.
>The planar sets I have remind me of my studio monitor because I feel like everything is fast and clear
Just use what you like then.

>>105967126
Preamp: -4.1 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 40 Hz Gain 1 dB Q 1.2
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 180 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 900 Hz Gain 1.2 dB Q 1.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1600 Hz Gain -1.3 dB Q 1.000
Filter: ON PK Fc 2700 Hz Gain 1.3 dB Q 2
Filter: ON PK Fc 10000 Hz Gain 0.5 dB Q 1
Filter: ON PK Fc 21000 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.4
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 5800 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 2.600

>>105967914
>Filter: ON PK Fc 21000 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.4
whats

>>105967184
still waiting.

>>105967953
just werks

>>105967914
yikes
remove the fucking eq guide

>>105968361
whats wrong with it?

>>105968443
nobody reads it

Just ordered these (Fiio FT1). I own a pair of Sennheiser HD650 but I don't use them. Theyre uncomfortable and I think they lack bass. You think I will be happy with the Fiios?

I have a pair of Fiio FH3 IEMs btw. I actually bought two pairs because I liked them so much. Hoping the FT1s will sound similar.

>asks for thoughts
>after buying
headpos law

>>105968443
that bloat removal looks nice

>>105968473
>You think I will be happy with the Fiios?
how the fuck should we know? ft1 have a decent tuning and comfort so at least you didn't buy some retarded garbage (well you have hd650 so I guess you did)
>Fiio FH3
dogshit

>>105968499
I dont really like a lot of treble, I think this iem is kept good mids centric like this, but if you pull the 2.7khz filter up by a decibel it complies better with meme targets

Thoughts on the Galaxy Buds FE?

>>105968560
>>Fiio FH3
>dogshit
I bet you haven't tried them

>>105968473
600/650 series + optionally some EQ solves headpos.
Unless you will get subjective comfort improvement with FT1 it was a waste, yeah.

>>105967853
I mean I just wanted to understand how do I get good ears. Ok I think that the graph explains why hexas sound warmer to me. 200 to 500hz seems louder there. Yeah treble seems boosted on the Dioko, but I still like it hmm. I got the Salnotes original Zero a couple hours ago and I love them. I couldn't resist the Mecha version. I like them more then the Zero:two. Would you say it's worth trying the Zero Red or the Zero blue / blue two?

>>105968849
not even bullshitting you. get the ea500lm

>>105968849
>Ok I think that the graph explains why hexas sound warmer to me. 200 to 500hz seems louder there.
I mean... they are technically warmer but it's like 1-2 dB difference and nowhere near enough to be too much.
>Would you say it's worth trying the Zero Red or the Zero blue / blue two?
I don't really like thin shouty pos but you clearly do so I wouldn't know.
zero blue 2 maybe. it's even thinner than zero and fairly bright.
you also should unironically try epz q1 pro it has a low bass low mids big harman shout tuning you might appreciate

>>105964007
how comfy are those? they look bulky in the photos

>>105969006
nta but thicker than hexa

>>105969154
>irellevant
lmao

>>105967061
>>105968849
you prefer brighter less bassy sets, so get sets like that if you want to keep spending money on pos. there isn't any point "forcing," "neutral," onto yourself. preferences are the endgame, not chasing a nebulous idea of flat-ness that you have misconceptions about.
if you want to change, listen to better tuned sets (and/or work on your eq skills). not much else to say. humans adapt. you are familiar with what you use frequently. something different may sound odd at first, but it normalizes as you use it.
you may also unironically have hearing loss, and you compensate for it with boosted tuning. there is nothing we can do to restore physical hearing ability.

>>105968987
May I ask you why?
I'll definitely watch a review anyways

>>105969183
you like bright peaky treble sound.
nta but while ea500lm offers that, it also has bass boost in the ~200hz range you bring up in hexa as too emphasized. ea500lm is even moreso, so not a good pick imo.

New to IEM, have an EPZ Q1 Pro incoming from ali with KZ FT01 blue foam tips, Kinera Celest Sky Wing and JCALLY JM6 Pro
Am I missing anything that I should order?
Will be using it for commute and for gaming at the workplace hence the mic.
What program can i use for EQ on the PC and maybe app for iOS?

>>105969537
why did you buy that pos

>>105969552
because it's based af?

>>105969552
cause current meme according to guide?

>>105969537
>Am I missing anything that I should order?
Custom faceplate for q1 pro

>>105964303
my nigga theyre like 3 dollars

>>105969717
>Custom faceplate for q1 pro
would be based you're right

>>105969537
Equalizer APO/easyeffects on PC, a dongle with PEQ on iOS.

>>105969761
You can send them any pic you want and they slap it on the faceplate.

>>105969784
even loli hentai

>>105969784
Are they still doing this?
How do you even go about it, just message their "official store" on aliexpress? Do they charge for it?

>>105969822
Yep. They charge around $35.

>>105969852
*$45

>>105969822
>Do they charge for it?
Yep, it's a separate item in the official store

>>105969795
>even loli hentai
def would turn heads on the bus

>>105969774
>Equalizer APO/easyeffects on PC, a dongle with PEQ on iOS.
Cool, Will check em out, Thanks!

>>105970047
>a dongle with PEQ on iOS
only thing that works on iOS is qudelix, don't expect to buy OP's DSP dongles and run it on iOS

>>105966595
Is it actually possible to order the blue planet as a euro citizen?

I don't really find any online shops offering them.

>>105970035
NO ONE on the bus is gonna be looking for loli hentai in your ears

>>105970517
They will because its no doubt that EPZ incels are freakishly ugly. People will gawk at them, and then they may notice the hentai pos in their ears. A truly miserable existence.

>>105970517
>>105970535
epz won't accept super lewd shit.
>EPZ incels are freakishly ugly
bait and cope

>>105970582
Average EPZcel

>>105969822
wtf is the fit on that bottom right one

>Stargate 2
>heats a LOT
>drains battery very quickly
Another transjimmy's L
Meanwhile, white men keep using Apple Dongle that barely drains any battery and runs cold

>>105970616
Maybe thats CIEM. But im not sure if EPZ actually making CIEMs.

>>105970535
>EPZ incels are freakishly ugly
low level bait, no new info

>>105970582
>epz won't accept super lewd shit.
Into the trash it goes.

>>105970598
>personal attacks based on what company they buy from.
you're useless and offer nothing.

>>105970582
>epz won't accept super lewd shit.
Reminds me of when I was ordering a custom dakimakura with a very (very very very) young woman on it, and all they sent me was a small pillow case with only her head (picrel).

iem eq guide was written by chatgpt, fuck all that shit

>>105970859
seems bretty gud 2 me

/iemg/ Physiognomy Check

Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your weekly sanity dose:

>Airpods/Cheapshit TWS/Stock buds
Too common to really make a good prediction, ranges from the average beta normalfag to alpha chads with chiseled jawlines.
>KZ, cheap Moondrop, years old FOTM pos, Cringicle collabs
Balding and likely a redditor, moderately ugly, recessed chin. Probably feminist and a simp for onlyfans whores. Least threatening "male". Often Indian.
>Truthear, Tanchjim, Softears, other less popular chinkshit and etymotic + smaller influencer collabs
Seriously ugly freaks, might have on standout feature like bug eyes or asymmetrical nose, negative canthal tilt is a given. High pitched or feminine voice, repulsive to almost all women.
>Customs/Expensive Western brands
Frail faggot hipster, somehow has rapey vibes yet is overpowered by the average woman. Male feminist. Think DMS archetype.
>Moondrop/Tanchjim/EPZ/CVJ with art on the side
These are the ugliest incels imaginable, the truest of trucels. Strange vocal tics, unnatural gait, and unbelievably ugly. They look totally deformed and repulsive to any normal person and have fucked up fetishes normies couldn't even imagine. Either freakishly thin or morbidly obese.

>>105970844
how fucking retarded are you? genuine question

>>105967061
>Hexa are advertised to be neutral but frequencies between 200hz and 500hz seem boosted. That makes them too warm for my taste.
What I do with the Hexa is applying a -2 dB lowshelf at 1 kHz. I use 5128 or JM-1 Diffuse Field without any adjustments as a baseline.

>>105968989
Ok I did AB tests between the Dioko and the original Salnotes Zero that arrived today. Ok, Diokos are too bright, and treble is a bit too much. I'm enjoying my new Zero a lot tuning wise. I don't have a good hearing and it's bugging me. Diokos cost more and the tuning seems to be worse even though if I equalized them maybe I'd get a good tuning with a better resolution?

A cleaner view of what happens in deep vs shallow insertion.

>>105971003
Us Sistas are perfect, how dare you!

>>105971003
it's amazing how how hard you're trying and yet, nobody cares.

>>105971331
You care <3

>>105971017
>how fucking retarded are you?
check url, We're all retarded here, welcome!

>>105971317
>good tuning with a better resolution?
resolution exists only within your mind, it's a subjective term for a subjective perceptual phenomenon
there's nothing objective or data driven that shows the dioko as having higher resolution
>>105971318
tragic, deep insertion advocates experience nothing below 30 hz

>>105971317
no

>>105971335
that was quick. no, really. nobody cares that you're a grown man seeking attention like a little school girl. we get it, you're insecure

>>105971356
Calm down bro, ever heard of dark humor?

How do any of you know if your signal is clipping on a phone?

>>105971363
humor is what butters my bread.
bored fuckos like yourself seeking to get a rise out of people in a chinese made piece of monkey shit earbud general is always nice to hit back. you, personally, have to be sick of your own shit at least sometimes, I'm sure

>>105971318
That's great. Currently, I don't use triple flanges anymore, because, while I appreciated that I don't need to deal with ear canal resonance, I didn't like the overall attenuation of the treble and ended up attenuating everything below 3 kHz to make up for it.

>>105971381
Lighten up pal

>>105971410
lighten up the thread by not shitting it up.
and I'm not your pal, guy

>>105971438
Okay sorry for making a joke would you like to argue about techs and FR for the 6000000th time? I'll start, techs are real.

>>105971446
it's not about making a joke, it's about not acting like a dumb broad seeking attention, adding nothing, so don't be sorry. just don't be histrionic.
we can both agree that techs are real, though. in spite of what chatgpt wrote up for the eq guide

>>105971470
>acting like a dumb broad
You mean like freaking out and getting offended over jokes? Like that? Anyways, techs aren't real FR is everything and the EQ guide is written by an audio genius. You ought to read it.

>>105970675
assano is so hot...

>>105971478
yeah. you clearly have issues

>>105971478
>freaking out and getting offended
as an adult, it has to be embarrassing to be corrected on your piss-poor behavior. nobody is offended, you just can't wrap your head around the possibility that you're and asshole.

>>105971552
an* asshole.

>>105971552
Hi newfriend, this is 4chan. If you're looking for a hugbox with no assholes maybe try bluesky

I thought Gate sounds much worse than Hexa, but I tried again to eq the treble on the Gates and it seems like they need a boost around 10 kHz, where there is a dip in the measurements. This brings back the clarity that was missing in comparison to Hexa, and now it sounds pretty close. I thought it's maybe the high-frequency BA driver that makes Hexa better that the 1DD, but now it seems like it can't do anything a bit of eq also can.

>>105971613
ahh. so it's obligatory because it's 4chan.
ya know, at the end of the day, you're still a nobody, seeking attention, on a chinese made piece of monkey shit earbud general. I like that you're doubling down on the retardation and we all get to witness you hitting a wall with absolutely nothing to offer. you're literally that guy lol

>>105971671
Whatever makes you feel better anon

>>105971673
THAT fast? holy shit there it is. you cream for this shit don't you, sociopath?

>>105971679
You were pretty quick yourself, nice one

>>105971681
kys

>>105971684
rude

read the eq guide

>>105971681
you're not a crab in a bucket. only niggers act like that.

>>105971446
>textbook faggot
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qrUFj9AGUG4

>>105971851
>applies to every anon in /iemg/
holy shit, are we the retards...

>>105964939
>retarded nigger
Just insert deeper bro

>>105971932
you are, for outing yourself :(

>>105971851
this is some real libtard shit lol

>>105972073
>self-awareness? leave that to the libtards! introspection is for the weak!
thanks for proving every point of the video, anon.

>>105963947 (OP)
my galaxy buds+ have died.
what is the iemg pick now for TWS. I like the Harman sound of the Galaxy Buds.
preferably less than $100 burgers but can go more

Which should I go for /iemg/? Both are capped at 48khz, couldn't find any that goes farther than that
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32815685327.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009317630072.html

>>105970675
try it on a pc, my hidisz s9 also ran hot on phone, but on pc its stone cold... austin

Could someone share some experience with these IEMs? I'm looking for something with deep, punchy bass and non-fatiuging treble.

My only experience with IEMs so far is Fiio FH3 (love) and Kiwi Cadenza (dislike).

>>105968625
https://youtu.be/8KDvHt4cTE8
vocals in 1:04 (this one second) are inaudible, completely veiled behind instruments
this is not the case in my other pos, all of them reproduce it correctly
this may be one second but it shows tonal imbalance that may impact other songs when you're not expecting it, so for me FH3 is disqualified

>>105968584
comfortable, repairable, supported by gadgetbridge and sounds quite good
one of the very few that made it to the /iemg/'s Best TWShit For Tourists Visiting The General About Wired Earphones To Get Genuinely Decent Wireless Set And Get The Fuck Out list, so, yeah, rec'd

>>105972440
Which IEMs do you recommend instead? For someone that likes the sound of the FH3s but want an upgrade/something even better.

>>105972440
you're just deaf

>>105972408
doscinco: decent. ziigaat has released like 3 approximate successors like odyssey, etc.
ew300: will have some treble bite
s08: fine, but not great shell ergonomics
legato: subpar attempt at basshead
hype4: will have lots of treble bite
s12 pro: will have some treble bite

>>105972408
>ew300
actually not bad, but for $50 you can get ea500lm used which is better than the ew300
>legato
never. it's such a low-performer, hard pass.

>>105972630
pagpag

>>105972440
that second you're talking about is a result of the mix itself. not any pos. the entire track is somewhat busy, but if that one second is all you have to show, I can say with confidence, it's just the mix. the vocalist perhaps wasn't as close to the mic as she should've been, for that second.

bought yidos and other chinkshit flatbuds and i am floored by the sound relative to my expectations lol. will try the ydx next

>>105970844
cute

>>105972805
ydx are worse than vidos imo

>>105972828
sound-wise you mean? yeah the vido is amazing i hope it'll last me a little while worried about the cable though price is not exactly a problem

>>105972595
>>105972630
Thanks. So should I just stick with my Fiios? No particular recommendation?

>>105972884
ea500lm.

Any new budget planars?

>>105970277
The easiest method is to order through Artpical's store on Taobao. Or you could always just visit their physical booth during SIAS/CanJam SG/CanJam HK. But seriously dont blind buy the Blue Planet, it's just as bright as any chifi planar.

>>105972805
>>105972828
>>105972865
Stop buying earbuds based on sound quality.

>>105973018
what gave you the impression i bought them because of how they sound? my question? i was simply asking for clarification as to what 'worse' implied

>>105973028
Moreso addressing the anon who dislikes the YDX's sound and warning anyone else (this time you) that buying or even discussing sound quality on earbuds is not particularly useful.

>>105973061
ah i see he might have meant the build quality or whatever that's what piqued my curiosity

>>105972884
the ziigat stuff is decent. just look at a newer comparison video with odyssey and lush models discussed. if they don't really appeal to you, stick with what you have

>>105972408
I know you, for you are who I was. You need Ikko OH10 with tamed treble and restored mids. You need Yanyin Canon (original model, not 2) with all switches enabled. Preferably Xelastec tips erring on the side of small.

>>105973156
oh my GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>105973156
good anon, follow this wise advice

>>105973061
Clueless post

>>105973156
>>105973193
>oh10
>canon
I was prepared to shit all over you, but I realized it was bait in the middle of raging

>>105973061
>you dont like my dogshit pos so actually all opinions are invalid and dont matter
yeah ok dude

>>105973220
>>105973387
No argument, just more useless ramblings.
I rest my case.

>>105973404
i rest my nuts on your forehead

>>105972377
>dongle
>pc
bruh...

>>105973471
bruhuhu brruh rububuhu shut the fuck up
s9 easily doubles as a desktop amp

>>105971317
>Diokos cost more and the tuning seems to be worse
there's no correlation between price and sound quality
> I don't have a good hearing
just like everybody else in this thread

Again you should use what you like and not worry about dumb shit. You might find IEM with similar tuning that is more comfortable. Or one might fit your HRTF even better and gives you better "techs" etc (btw how is soundstage on diokos vs zero?).
Play with EQ a little bit to get a feel for what you actually like. Add bass/treble shelves to your zero and compare. Use music tracks you are very familiar with.
If diokos are actually as bright and peaky as measurements show I wouldn't bother with EQ shit would be too annoying to deal with.
Also don't rush, half of shit you think you hear might be novelty. Just give it a couple of weeks to feel things out and get used to it.

so can anyone help with my tech imbalance?

>>105973621
a talking parrot is more engaging than you

What's a good IEM for streaming video games on Twitch?

>2025
>OG Hexa is still the best iem
Yup, I'm thinking based.

>>105965608
>not using $3 blu VIDO like a sane person

how do you faggots reconcile this?

>>105971643
why do so many 1DDs and POS in general have this 10kHz dip anyway?
I'm pretty sure I have short ear canals + can push IEMs pretty deep which results in resonance peak around 9500-10000 so I never hear 10k dip... Do you guys actually hear it?

>>105973779
jesus fuck bro what fucking filter did you put on this image, i can see the techs in the curves lmao

>>105973789
what, bro? just basic image enhancement bro.

>>105973779
Placebo techs don't appear in graphs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWi8z5pFjo
Will IEMs ever give me bass like this?

>>105973842
vibrational fox dildo

>>105973807
cope surely does.

>>105973779
Learn to read graphs, ffs. Neon has that mosquito upper treble PEAK and a little less ear gain compared to the chad HUM and that kills the timbre and techs.

>>105973881
>mosquito upper treble PEAK
>measured on 711 coupler lol
>can't hear past 15k anyway
ear gain difference is like 1.5dB.. not enough to "kill timbre".

>>105973648
which one got you? sound quality one or deafness?

When the only points they have is that you're deaf, or that you're trolling, or that you're coping, or that you're a Dunning Kruger, or that you're poor
And that they have nothing against the actual substantive evidence and theories behind something
You know that you're right.

>>105973906
>undamped resonances, it'll be worse in situ
>bullet using chink bellsing vs knowles/sonion
>inferior aesthetics techs
>measured on 711 coupler, indeed, the graphs would differ way more on 5128
Very noob reading graphs and techs. I can hear up to 18 kHz just fine, and a 1.5 dB difference in the most sensitive part of our hearing is night and day.

>>105973929
well the guy did mention he has bad hearing, then you proceed to tell him about HRTF and to play with eq lol
and yeah,
>I don't have a good hearing
>just like everybody else in this thread
makes you look pretty dumb. because you are.

>>105973779
kbear is a 1 BA ear dildo meanwhile hum reference is a normal looking IEM... so the difference might literally just be fit which won't show on the graph.
At least try to compare something in a similar form factor... Your ear is not a metal tube...

>everyone just skipping over the fact that cringeacle does sighted non-virtualized tests
just hearing the brand and putting them in his ear will fuck up his rating

>>105973987
>fit
what? why bring up fit making a difference when in spite of fit, they both measure 97% the same regardless? help me understand your point

>>105973984
>well the guy did mention he has bad hearing
does he tho? liking less bass and more treble doesn't necessary means he has bad hearing. Did he actually check it? If not he's just making assumptions because he didn't like "neutral" hexa.
>makes you look pretty dumb. because you are.
it's just a joke bro lmao why are you getting so mad? because you are actually deaf and retarded? chill

>>105974021
I'm just going by what he said word for word. it's on you for trying to obfuscate.
>I don't have good hearing
I really don't know how one would unironically try to interpret that any other way lol.

>>105974011
>help me understand your point
..what is there to understand? do I need to explain how IEMs actually fit different in a real ear vs metal tube of 711?
maybe try using your brain for 2 seconds? were they grading graphs or actual IEMs?

>>105974064
my intent on posting the image was to show their similarities in tuning and highlight difference in price and grade. one has to assume they listened to the pos too, but what are you arguing? that their fit is drastically different from one another and their similarities in fr are...what exactly?

>lilsister sends a JM-1 target to truthear's engineer
>already very similar to hexa
>just says to match it to the target and shut up
>never listened to a prototype in the whole process
>takes all the credit as the tuner
B-based? Target adherence is all that matters.

>>105974037
There's such thing as context you know.
>I really don't know
That wouldn't surprise me

>>105974134
context, nuance, whatever. this general is always hard to navigate given it's full of very emotional grown men. you're giving this general too much credit

inevitably, the eq guide will leak out of here
enjoy it while you still can

>>105974249
pls...
it's old news for anyone deep balls and into eq
and too long-winded to show the basics for noobs

>>105974096
I'm arguing that fit can easily explain the difference in rating. You'd need to read reviews for more information.
>hat their fit is drastically different from one another
difference in fit changes FR at the eardrum dumbass
>my intent on posting the image was to show their similarities in tuning and highlight difference in price and grade
it's obvious what your dumb fucking intent is. But there are more variables in play than just price.
...do you really think your dumb fucking pic is some high level post or something?

>>105974104
does he even like pure himself lol?

>>105974249
You wish. Shartur already has a monopoly on that. :^)

>shartur
he's dropping bangers, watch out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzwPo7SGDl4

>>105974323
you really care about fit huh? what does that have to do with a $1250 price gap? and what makes you think I'm so retarded I didn't know what you were clarifying about a goddamn ear vs a metal tube? I know crinacle grades for fit too but some people love shoving long things in their holes apparently.

>>105974432
>you really care about fit huh
no? it's just a simple fact
>what does that have to do with a $1250 price gap
price has nothing to do with anything in the first place. do you think he bought a kilobuck pos lol? Does review say that it's worth buying a kilobuck that sounds like $100 etymotic? no?
>I know crinacle grades for fit too but some people love shoving long things in their holes apparently
lol that's not what I'm talking about. Fit itself is not the point. Differences in FR at the eardrum because of it is.

>cringicle in the big 2025
good job guys great thread

>>105974618
it's about context lol

>>105974618
he's releasing daybreak soon and it'll sell a metric fuckton
you may larp as much as you want but crinacle is relevant more than ever

>>105974814
I have no interest in e-celebfaggotry but Daybreak IS pretty good. I mostly hang with headfi/watercooler types but a guy brought his reviewer unit for us to try and even these price biased boomers agreed it was good.

there's a line between endless churn and variety and eq doesn't draw that line

>>105973779
You have obsession with 2 completely dead iems, its been years faggot let it go

Dogma anon is subscribed to cringeacle and the entire list is projection. Thoughts?

>>105975730
retard doesn't even know what dogma is
ignore him

>>105975730
Yep

Twitter is mogging the shit out of you guys in the shitpost department, not gonna lie

>>105975764
Don't deadname it, chud.

>>105975764
I've yet to see 1 faggot who can prove he can hear difference between flac and spotify's highest quality lol

>>105975764
This is kinda what a 4chan user would post if no one ever told him to kill himself from time to time

>>105972659
yeah but it shows how capable a pos is in resolving busy mixes

>>105973779
It's the subtlest of differences in FR that can shape the IR and make the sound fast, snappy and technical. Even sub-1dB differences in the most unassuming frequencies can make techs. The overall tonality has nothing to do with it, as shown in your pic - those two pos are very similar, but not 100% the same. Techs are stored in these differences.

>>105974104
We need a new color variant of the Pure with (((Silver))) shells.

>Even sub-1dB differences in the most unassuming frequencies can make techs.
>Techs are stored in these differences.

Picked up these last week for 80 euro, they are FUCKING AMAZING. Best ear buds I've used, ever. Sounds is crystal clear, highs are great, base is awesome, even without noise canceling you barely hear the outside world, the physical controls are satisfying af... I give them 10/10. Love them.

>>105976063
>It's the subtlest of differences in FR that can shape the IR and make the sound fast, snappy and technical.
that's not a thing
you faggots really like to talk about transients and it is always some delusional shit literally based on nothing

>>105976192
bro...
no ANC for $80?...

>>105976063
Never assume an audiophile can hear a small difference because we KNOW he can't hear a BIG difference. Audiophiles hear the inaudible and don't hear the audible. The IEM was more expensive so he liked the sound better. It's puddle deep. If crinacle had to make a ranking without measurements he would be a laughing stock.

>>105976192
SG have a proper 5128 measurements and it does look decent if awful channel matching above is just a fluke of some kind... that 10k+ roll off is a bit too much tho

>>105976283
Yeah that's basically the only downside every reviewer mentions, but it doesn't bother me. I have a love/hate relationship with ANC and sometimes the sound feel worse to me with it, it's weird.

>>105976305
How noticeable would that be for general daily use?

>>105976307
Not having a fucking ANC in 2025 when $25 space travel has it is kinda.. you know.
>sometimes the sound feel worse to me with it, it's weird.
I mean ANC is trying to slash lower frequencies so it's not exactly weird if it makes sound worse in some cases

>>105976317
what? 4dB channel imbalance? or 10k roll off?
I'd probably hear cymbals being a bit weird or too quiet but it's like whatever.
does it not have an app with EQ?

>>105976347
The roll off. It does have an EQ and the settings are saved in the buds, so it remembers them between devices.

Driver material matters. Dynamic range matters. Faceplates dont matter.

>>105976366
Bait.

>>105976366
>Driver material matters
What is this claim based on?

>>105976473
On general consensus of iem havers

>>105976509
How was it determined that it's a general consensus among iem havers?

>>105976532
Thats not a question, that an inability to accept the anwser.

>>105976565
Do not redeem the answer sir.

Why would "iem havers" have any idea about driver materials in the first place? They are not materials scientists and have no understanding of structure-properties relationships.
I wish some of you had enough intelligence and self awareness to realize that you need a little bit more than a fake consensus to link material properties and driver performance... And especially then to link that performance to sound quality.

>>105976582
Minor spelling mistake.

>>105976532
You are either an ESL that didnt understand the question, or do not like the anwser.

>>105976609
A good driver is better than a bad driver, this is understandable for the non-pagpag population.

>>105976647
>>105976647
>>105976647

>>105976635
Audio engineering society has proven that IEM havers are wrong. What now.