Thread 105966335

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer XV271U M3, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>105940279

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>105952690

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super specs: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

How good is the FLP01? I have been eyeing it up for a case swap with my atx board 2080 ti but I havent done a proper swap before.

>look at general
>no pcbg general
>refuse to create one
pcbuilding died in 2025

anyway
>be me
>look at oled monitors yet again
>browse into asus rog board
>the 100 page post about the pg32ucdm random black screens still going
>apparently related to a safety feature because the panel gets too hot and goes into safety mode and goes black or some shit?
>people rma their monitors and eventually get a working one?
>afraid to spend ultra premium money to get an overheating panel again
>had an oled before and had literal 0 problems though
>fear once again grips me
maybe we should wait again

also, the ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDPG 500hz qdoled are up on sale here and it's going for 1400€ which is quite a bit, which translates to 90% more than what the 480hz LG one can be had for, which is insane, monitor volatility is beyond insane between countries and retailers, the same panel and the same monitors can be over 2x more for no apparent reason, don't get scammed

we wait

Playing it on Intel Arc.
Intel frame generation works flawlessly.

>>105966508
>pcbuilding died in 2025
Nvudio thnakn you.

This trash bags reminds me conversations in pcbg threads
>Nvidia
>AMD
>Nvidia
>AMD
>Nvidia
>AMD
What a great symbolism

>>105966448
Not very good in terms of airflow (3x 120mm fans for the sides).
CPU cooler & video card dimensions are also fairly restrictive.
Get it for the novelty if you want it.

>>105966508
It's better to have a slow general like /fwt/ or others than to have one filled with shitposts and brand fagging.

>maybe we should wait again
I read those black screening WOLED monitor issues as well. Is this because the panel's hitting higher brightness than QD-OLED?
Is Samsung Display setting looser thermal protections?
I'm also not finding any news about the efficiency improvements in LG Display's newer RGWB OLED panels.

The 500hz qd oleds are pretty strange. They increase in hz is mostly redundant because most people cant run games faster than 360hz and the image clarity is identical for games running below 361hz
the text clarity remains the same, they didnt change anything besides up the hz. Brightness got a minor bump perhaps?

1400€ is a bit overpriced too. Lame.

My CPU dont feel so good.

>>105966448
The chassis for that case is basically a horizontally set ATX tower with a slimmer width (and a custom front panel).

>>105966936
Which CPU are you using?

>>105966925
This year's new OLED monitors make RTX 50 cards look extremely new & exciting.

>>105966925
>>105966951
It's primarily for framegen fags. Mfgx4 means you only need 125fps to take advantage of 500hz.

>>105966335 (OP)
Why haven’t you built a mini-ITX computer yet? Why the fuck are you still building on those cases that are huge fucking chunks of metal?

>>105967034
Means using mini itx motherboard. They're super overpriced for lack of ports.

>>105967067
Grow the fuck up!

>>105967075
Non crippled lanes > WoW it's small

>>105967034
People actually buy those things??

>>105967089
People actually buy 50cm cases in 2025??? Welp, that’s retarded

People can choose whichever PC form factor they want.
Just don't be retarded with the cooling considerations if you're planning a SFF build.

>>105966925
>because most people cant run games faster than 360hz
most people can run esports or older games at 360hz+ just fine

>they didnt change anything besides up the hz
>Brightness got a minor bump perhaps?
they are a new gen panel that bumps the brightness 300nits full screen + hdr 500 + more burn in resistance meme + possibly less harmful bluelight wavelenghts meme

>1400€ is a bit overpriced too
there is one singular retailer that have them in stock and the price a few days earlier before it dropped was 1550€

as I type this and check pricing another retailer just added the monitor too, new price 1150€

>>105966911
>I read those black screening WOLED monitor issues as well.
heard it on all kinds of models, on some models like the samsung black screening was fixed by swapping from dp to the hdmi so it might be handshake issue too? idk
>I'm also not finding any news about the efficiency improvements in LG Display's newer RGWB OLED panels.
are there any? qd draws more power than woled idk

What are the absolute cheapest 32 inch 2160p panels that I can buy for office use these days? Was initially thinking about going pro but this thought is funny to me.

>>105967149
>PCPartPicker -> Monitors -> Filter by resolution & screen size
$200 Samsung VA
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yf2bt6/samsung-lu32j590uqnxza-320-3840-x-2160-60-hz-monitor-lu32j590uqnxza

$370 LG IPS (31.5")
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mH8bt6/lg-32bn67u-b-315-3840-x-2160-60-hz-monitor-32bn67u-b

You might as well buy the ROG monitor if you're looking for 32" 4K IPS.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VXZ9TW/asus-rog-swift-pg32uq-320-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-90lm0770-b011b0

>>105967149
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/56e53c51
Apparently this thing exists for $180 right now and is the cheapest 2160p display period, though only 27 inches. The 32-inch model is VA and gets bumped up to $260.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/NVIDIA-CUDA-Coming-To-RISC-V

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-neural-texture-compression-delivers-90-vram-savings-with-dxr-1-2/

AYYMDEAD UNBOXED STATUS?

SAME LOW IQ RETARDED YOUTUBE E-BEGGARS THAT SAID RAYTRACING, DLSS AND ALL OTHER NVIDIA WORLD FIRST INNOVATIONS WAS BAD

>>105967313
>NVIDIA-CUDA-Coming-To-RISC-V
It's just planning for future AI data centers.

>nvidia-neural-texture-compression-delivers-90-vram-savings-with-dxr-1-2
Neural texture compression is at least 3~4 more years away from being featured in vidyagames.

want a 3rd m.2 since my first slot is taken by my OS and the other one only has 2tb, am i correct that i can just buy this thing and install another m.2? using a tomahawk x570

>>105967452
damn impressive but i'd like to see how well real games will benefit from it

>>105966335 (OP)
I'm getting ready to build a new PC. It'll be for general use, gaming. What it the best CPU right now, and is there anything new coming out soon that I should be waiting for?

Do you guys think I could bring this deepcool ch260 case build with my into airplanes? I just want a build compact enough that I can bring it with me in airplanes

What do you faggot ass nigger noggers think the rtx 6000 series will be like? I'm getting bored of the card I bought like 2 months ago and want to consume another gpu

>>105966996
>>105967313
>>105967452
Nvidia bros how do AMD-Tards not commit suicide when seeing all the cool stuff they're missing out on?

>>105967541
All graphics cards will use 3GB GDDR7 memory modules

RTX 6090 48GB GDDR7 512-bit memory bus
RTX 6080 24GB GDDR7 256-bit memory bus
RTX 6070 18GB GDDR7 192-bit memory bus
RTX 6060 12GB GDDR7 128-bit memory bus

>>105967541
>>105967561
We know you own a Radeon card, trying too hard here.

>>105967565
you are a retard if you think they will release a budget gpu with 12gb vram, 9gb maybe

>>105967512
Bad idea to carry around a PC case with a tempered glass side panel.

>>105967510
You need to give us a budget, 9950X3D is the best PC CPU.
Zen 6 is next year. Intel won't be part of the best CPU discussion for a long time.

>>105967589
>Bad idea to carry around a PC case with a tempered glass side panel.
I am going to replace it with DIY mesh panel, but can I still bring that size case with my in planes?

>>105967573
You're the retard, it's still only 4 memory modules x 24Gbit/3GB and the other 2 memory manufacturers would have ramped up their 3GB modules to mass production already

>>105967592
I'd get a smaller case, the Deepcool case dimensions are 18 x 13 x 9 inches.

If the price difference is 185 dollars, is it worth it or nah

>>105967668
Depends on the games you play and the game resolution.
7800X3D for $450 is dumb though.

>>105967668
if you're in usa you make 2 times more than anyone else on the planet
why arent you buy 9800x3d and 5090 on day one

>>105967603
Nah they will go giga Jew and cut the bus to 96bit to save 10mm2 of silicon

>>105967701
Tipping culture, exorbitant taxes and healthcare is every us citizen's privilege

>>105967724
>exorbitant taxes
Soon, but not yet. Europe get absolutely fucked in taxes. Soon we will as well.

>>105966335 (OP)
what is pcbg's opinion on Adata M.2? Good or bad

>>105967701
rent + groceries + insurance + car payments + medication = living paycheck to paycheck

>>105967701
The cheap tech and high wages don't make up for everything in practice being way more expensive, especially since we had that nigger in the white house shortly followed by Biden.

>>105967932
unless you haul stuff around, like boxes of heavy things and children just dont have a car
use an ebike
save 10k annually or something ridiculous

boycott fedex
i mean this sincerely

>>105967926
Probably mediocre, I'd rather buy a Crucial or Hynix drive.

>Mid range card
>Low price of $550
>Faster than the flagship from 2 gens ago (3090ti)
>excititng ai driven feature set. You don't want to be playing games without dlss 4, framegen, and ray reconstruction.
Whats the problem with this card again?

>>105968072
3080 exist and the following 2 gens at similar prices have been like +10%, + 10% and frame gen
its pretty sad

>>105967986
I prefer Fedex over UPS.

>>105968092
maybe in your area fedex isn't complete dogshit, but take a look at the reviews from my fedex shipping station

https://share.google/vf3yaM0VppsdDNuV0

it must be run by the most incompetent niggers on planet earth

I'm not buying OLED until True Black 1000 becomes the norm.

>>105968112
enjoy your ips glow I guess
seems retarded to want that but you do you

>>105967589
>Zen6 is next year
There's always better hardware coming in an year

>>105968072
RTX 5070 is the best-selling RTX 50 video card so far.
It's as if real people don't run games at Hardware Unboxed's bullshit settings.

>>105968125
It's VA. Enjoy your lack of britghness and permanent burn in.

>>105968134
va pixel response times can get a bit slow compared to oled

>>105968128
No new GPUs are coming out until 2027

>>105968149
It's all tradeoffs, no one right answer for a monitor.

>>105968104
Yea you have a problem with certain people that live in big cities not a carrier issue. I expect my package to be destroyed if it ever touches Atlanta, regardless of carrier.

>>105968156
>no one right answer for a monitor.
Take the 1080p VA high refresh rate pill. Plenty of contrast but you don't have to worry about your oled being unusable a year from now or mini led beta testing.
Plus it's 1080p, with multiframe gen you'll be blowing past 240 no problem.

>>105968150
The 5080 die is half the size of the 5090.
There will be a at least one SUPER card in between the two

>>105968208
Supers are just overclocked current gen with more ram

>>105968208
>There will be a at least one SUPER card in between the two
5080 Super will use the same GB203 chip that's in the regular 5080.
The Super will just have a higher factory boost setting with a 24GB VRAM config (8x 24Gbit GDDR7).

NVIDIA's not going to give a further cut-down GB202 chip for gamers, especially when there are no alternatives at this spec.

>>105968274
>>105968248
So it's going to be a better hardware (higher clocks, more ram)

And don't try to move the goalpost niggers

>>105968208
Like he said >>105968248. They under clocked the 5080 to sell you a super. It's way cheaper and scummy, which is right up NVIDIA's alley.

>>105967541
this only makes sense if you bought a 5090
but I know you didn't by the tonality of your post, which makes it even stupider since you are waiting for performance that already exists

>>105967932
grim

>>1059681127
so you are telling me you are buying a 55"+ S95F or a G5 right now then?

>>105968198
>Take the 1080p VA high refresh rate pill.
dumbest thing I have heard
oxymoron

>>105968298
>It's way cheaper and scummy
It would be scummy if 5080 owners were locked out of that missing performance, but they're not.

>>105968333
It's still shitty. They will sell far more 5080 supers because of it. I agree you are crazy not to pick up free 10 percent uplift if you own a 5080.

>>105967975
>use an ebike when you need to drive for an hour or two to get to work
>save 10k annually without a job that facilitates you needing a car when you maybe at best can keep 100-200 dollars per paycheck

An RTX 5060 (8gb) costs like $550 in my counrty, how fucked I am with these prices?

>>105968401
Don't buy. Be a console gamer or something.

>>105968408
mfw a switch 2 costs like $1200

>>105968401
ask your south american politicians to lower taxes a bit

>>105968423
Is SA the place with the greediest taxes?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XfzvGJ

need a new gaming pc + workstation (high res image and video editing) + playing around with ais
this is what i have a budget for
everything i currently own is shit and old
is this a good build for my needs? i know im overspending a bit here and there, thats not a concern

>>105968104
>blocks your path

>>105968416
Get a different hobby. Go hiking, meet fitbodies.

>>105968460
>7800x3d
9800x3d has better sustained all core clocks due to the cache being on the other side so better for workstation tasks
>air cooler
enjoy your ramping fan speeds up and down!
>asrock b650
no pcie5 for your "workstation" needs + frying your cpu due to being asrock
>msi oled
hopefully the pixel refresh counter does not get in your way and works as intended meaning it goes into refresh during idle/sleep, msi updated firmware so it can go 24h without a mandatory refresh, which should still be unacceptable and my main problem with oled monitors, or rather how many manufacturers choose to implement the firmware, would I buy msi ever? No. I don't negotiate with terrorists
am I a bit extreme? No, I think I should be able to use product however I want even if it means fucking up the panel
msi also enjoys hiding or not giving you a basic bitch setting like pixel shift off because they gotta keep their 3 year warranty from activating however they can

>>105968579
That board has gen5 GPU and m2

>>105968589
my b was looking at a different board

>>105968460
i miss having slav high rise views
can't get that around here without being rich

>>105968579
then whats a good oled monitor thats 32" and 4k
literally i could have picked any and a nitpicking tard would have wrote a different wall of text telling my its the worth pick ever

>>105968610
worst*

>>105968610
>then whats a good oled monitor thats 32" and 4k
if asus is the same price I would pick asus every time, although can't be sure their thing is working as intended either
the functional equivalent with dp2.1 would be the pg32ucdmR but it's out of stock right now I guess
same price too
msi makes sense if it's cheaper but not the same price as it just worse feature wise
>literally i could have picked any and a nitpicking tard would have wrote a different wall of text telling my its the worth pick ever
nobody here would give you a schizo ramble of how bad pixel refresh implementations really are
It's a literal deal breaker
try one and see how many times before it pops up and interrupts your whole shit or in the middle of something
it's so bad
only a few manufacturers have common sense to not do it like this

>>105968610
He's going to suggest an ROG monitor, ASUS does make the better OLED monitors (for a high premium).
Change your video card brand unless you want to fall for the cost-cut thermal gel memes.

>>105965419
Damn I've never come across that Dell before. Shit looks really promising. I wonder how come I never found it when I was looking for monitors before I got my Asus. It's fairly priced and everything.

>>105965204
Thanks, I'll avoid the Coolermaster miniled then.
I've looked around for other minileds at this price but don't think there are any or any other panels recommended. I can stretch to about £250 but that's the absolute max, not sure what the best panels are at that price range that will work well with PS5. Open to any suggestions

I might just go for the KTC. I'll compare it and the Asus and prob return one. I'll lose a voucher on it but what can ya do.

>>105968460
mobo is overpriced as shit and also white
you can get something better from b850 for that price, i have strix B850-f

that case is like 3 years old, why bother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37p6icPPoi0

psu should have a 2025 refresh, its just not on the pcpartpicker, its worth paying attention to when you will be ordering everything
i use this psu tier list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc

i would suggest moving up to 9800x3d and getting aio like liquid freezer 3 if you can manage to get additional 150 bucks

>>105968671
pcpartpicker says the pg32ucdmr comes in at the same price as the msi but it's not in stock
>(for a high premium).
the fact that we are at a state where you have to pay several hundred more JUST to get a better firmware implementation is beyond insane
one simple firmware update would make many more monitors buyable, that cost way less
but having experienced this once it's honestly worth it paypigging for the meme brands, that might just have a tiny more real features and settings more, not worth the premium more compared to the cheapest just for these features
paying 50% more just to get a firmware that does not auto reboot is crazy but it is what is needed
the fact that I am right does not need to be explained, you already saw msi course correcting and updating the 16h meme to the 24h meme
however the final solution is not having a timer at all, but they are doing everything in their might to keep the 3 year warranty meme going, at the cost of every one elses sanity
cannot reward companies doing this either
maybe one day we will have good things

>>105968695
>that case is like 3 years old, why bother
and?
i like fractal design, and i particularly like that case, it also has excellent airflow, whats not to like?
airflow physics didnt change in the last 3 years
i had aio once and it fucking broke within 6 months, never again, im not falling for the liquid meme

>>105968689
Alienware AW2725DF would be relatively cheap 360hz qd oled

>>105968742
The Meshify 3/XL includes better stock fans, arguably one of the best in the market (nearly matches $40~50 Noctua G2 fan performance).
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/fractal-design-momentum-14-rgb-top-class-in-every-aspect-review/43/
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/lighting-on-lcp-fractal-design-momentum-12-rgb-analysis-review/43/
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/time-for-a-change-fractal-design-momentum-12-black-tested-review/43/

>>105968742
>i had aio once and it fucking broke within 6 months
Why didn't you RMA that thing and give the replacement a try?
Are you going to stop meeting ladies because you met one crazy/unattractive one?

>>105966335 (OP)
Is pigtailing really that bad? I plan on using my MSI Mag a650bn on a 6700xt and was wondering, what are the repercussions of doing this if it is theoretically within the power limits?

>>105968840
>what are the repercussions of doing this if it is theoretically within the power limits?
Nothing.
Source : The 5080 being fed 400iw by my mag 550 from one cable with pigtail
Also I've literally never heard of something bad (melting) happening outside of ultra chink power supplies.

>>105968840
If you set a 240W power limit, it should be very safe.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240807163112/http://www.jongerow.com/PCIe/index.html

>>105968840
You really shouldn't if you can help it.
But as long as it doesn't trip OCP or otherwise crash then it's fine.

>>105968804
>>105968775
>>105968695
>>105968671
>>105968663
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PJsKTM
how about now?

>>105968840
Depends, what PSU are you using?
If corsair you are completely fine since the connector on the PSU side is rated at 300w and each pigtail end is rated at 150w

Source: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/individual-8-pin-vs-pigtail-connectors-for-gpus/

>>105968936
It fine. Watch installation videos of the AIO. People say it's an annoying process.
https://youtu.be/zfffNRTOZCc?t=1291

>>105968936
Get the PRO version, installation aint that bad

t. recently installed one

>>105968913
>>105968913
>150W per 8-pin is a conservative spec
>Non chink PSU
Thanks, til about the the pigtail can handle near double the rated power

>>105968953
MSI Mag a650bn
>ctrl+f -> MSI | MAG A-BN
Just chose the cheapest that I can find here https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

>>105968937
i wish amd didn't have their console cashcows
they would have to put actual effort into their consumer gpus

>>105969185
>Last Update: 2023-04-11
that psu list is abandoned
again, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc is basically a current version of it

Seems like a strong card.
And what a funky connector... I like it.

Pretty cool, huh?

>gpu rgb keep resetting itself to ON
Holy fuck I'm going crazy
OpenRGB works, but after few days it reset back to On
Asus Aura works, but after I uninstall it it somehow reset back to On too
Is there no fucking physical shit to unplug to turn off the rgb for good on this shit?
I hate rgb so fucking much

frens, womans, sultrymen. strange question, can anyone offer pointers for what makes a decent monitor? i'm happy to go with some specific highly reviewed $200+ display for my desktop but these are gonna be hooked up to a mediocre system and i just need to be able to identify a "decent" one used off ebay or whatever. i don't even know where to begin in telling models apart, beyond obvious criteria like refresh rate, res and ports. is there even much more to it than that? thx frens.

IT'S OKAY IF IT COSTS $200 OVER MSRP STILL #1 BUY IT ANYWAY

One day 1440p will be the new 1080p.

>>105969816
lol never
1440p is 720p tier cope
just get on 4K already
media will never be made for 1440p

>>105969789
response times across different refresh rate options, out-of-the-box picture quality, & picture quality post-calibration.
Only miniLED or OLED monitors have decent HDR picture quality; don't bother with HDR if you're shopping for other LCD monitors.

>>105966882
>>105966896
Sir kindly redeem the intel stock nova lake will be the needful great return

>>105967561
You will own nothing and be happy

>>105969858
thanks. is there a metric for picture quality, or do you mean like sRGB coverage?

>>105968129
>paying $600 for 12gb of vram

>>105969902
>or do you mean like sRGB coverage?
That + color accuracy measurements, including color temperature.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d#test_1467

>>105968936
the pg32ucdmR would be the 1:1 comparision with the msi, because dp2.1 and so on, maybe it has some hardware updates
but I guess it hasn't been released fully yet
also another variant called the pg32ucdmZ exists but it's the same as pg32ucmd just a refresh of some sorts

>>105969789
at that price just avoid cheap shit VA's

>>105969804
here it just dipped down to launch prices again
3x less than a 5090 (also dipped in priced and cheap as its ever been)
hmmmmmm

>>105969816
it literally is an esports resolution now, 500hz 1440p unless you are going 600hz 1080p TN

>>105969902
any monitor should be able to hit 100% srgb if it's not pure shit
if it's actually not shit it should have even wider gamut

>>105969906
Thank Ethical AMD and their board partners for selling the RX 9070 above MSRP.
Not to mention they've hidden 30% of extra performance of the non-XT behind a vBIOS.

>>105969964
>>105970026
very helpful to know, thanks frens

>>105970031
wtf how

power locked?

>>105970050
Most likely. I'm guessing the ASUS Prime 9070 XT has around 100W higher maximum power limit.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-9070-steel-legend-oc/42.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-pulse/43.html

silicon lottery sucks

>>105969360
They're not exactly cashcows, just life support.

>>105970031
I got my 9070xt for $630 at microcenter. Its a powercolor hellhound

>>105969489
without aura it shouldn't even persist past reboot
do you have "fast" boot aka fake shutdown with hibernation enabled?

>>105969789
picking monitor is the most complicated part
if i were to pick a monitor right now, i would watch some of the shilling from hardware unboxed and cross reference it with rtings

>>105970156
9070 XT Hellhound never sold under $699.
And Power Color isn't dumb enough to sell a Hellhound SKU with only a $30 premium over the Reaper.
At least make up more believable bullshit.

how much long is AM5 going to last? is it fair to assume amd will release at least two more cpu gens on it before switching to AM6?

>>105970301
There's no need to rush for AM6 when the currently available CPUs can't make the most out of the DDR5 specs.
The fastest JEDEC DDR5 kit available to consumers is the 6400 MT/s, the spec maxes out at 8800MT/s 1.1V.
Most of the XMP/EXPO kits are overclocking 4800 & 5600 MT/s JEDEC kits.

>>105970297
It was an unused open box with the peels still on it. I assume it didn't fit in their case.

>>105970366
A likely story.

>>105970173
Yes I do
Should I disable it?

>>105970301
AM6 should be out in winter 2026/spring 2027. I will just wait on AM4 until it comes out then get in early on a x600X and then upgrade later to an x700X3D when prices go down same as AM4. Ddr5 keeps going down and they should solve the memory speed issue by then anyway.

>>105970394
There were like 20 open box cards with ~3 being 9070xts, ~5 5070s, ~2 5080s, and then whatever 5060s/9060s they had. Always ask at microcenter what open boxes they have in the back and ask for more of a discount on top of the open box price. They'll give you one.

>accidentally formatted HDD with windows installation media
>files are recoverable through some wizardry software like GDB
How the fuck does this even work? I'm not a tech noob but I'm also not that familiar with intricacies of data. I know data isn't usually fully deleted even when you try to remove them per se, but it's still mindboggling how a program can just rewrite all these complicated computer files back into their original state after initial deletion. Am I looking too deep into it?

>>105970418
Open box pricing is irrelevant when the discussion was about BNIB video card prices. Cope on.

>>105970431
Imagine actually paying the marked up price on either brand of card. That would be crazy. I actually went in hoping for a 5070ti but they had no open box ones.

>Power starves the RX 9070 non-XT
>Plays PR games with launch pricing
>'But I got an open box Hellhound for $630!'
Kek'd.

>>105967986
update 5
i karen'd hard and the pajeet lv 2 supervisor called my shipping station and told them to try and delivery my package today. got it 1.5 hours later

as for the actual monitor, no dead pixels, but there's a vertical line of dirt under the screen near the center left. might just accept it and not get a replacement.

the monitor itself is pretty nice. windows hdr calibration tool is reporting 1430 nits max brightness. i will go blind if i keep using this. only real downside i've noticed so far is that by default, the color temp is very cool. will have to calibrate it later.

both hdmi 2.1 and dp 1.4 sleep and wake from sleep with 0 issues which was surprising. big issue i'm noticing is that there appears to be a problem with hdmi 2.1 causing no display at boot. if i unplug/replug everything works as normal. this is most likely an nvidia issue...but considering how shit their drivers have been this year, i doubt it will ever be fixed, so i'm sticking with dp 1.4.

the local dimming algo on this monitor is a significant improvement over the one in the gm001j from red magic. for a while i couldn't even tell if local dimming was on or not on the desktop because i couldn't see any halos or the usual "browning" of dark or bright areas. ran some local dimming tests and it tracks objects A LOT faster. it's almost as good as the LG 27GR95UM on the desktop, without any of the shit issues from that ones local dimming algo.

matte coating on this screen is basically the same as the red magics which was grainy garbage. at this point i'm convinced that all AUO panels look like this and it's intentional.

haven't tested out the 320hz 1080p mode or black frame insertion (MPRT), but i don't really care about either of them so i'll check them out later. i might actually buy another one of these monitors and replace the shit lg monitor i've been using as one of my sides.

tldr: it's good and i'm prob going to get another one

>>105970399
i disable it every time
on ssds it doesn't make a difference and while it shouldn't cause problems 99% of the times, rarely it creates really obnoxious situations which are hard to troubleshoot

>>105970301
Till something reasonable as 5600 comes

>>105970031
50 dollars over msrp is not a 30% increase. Kys lying shill

>>105970423
fast formatting doesn't actually override the data, it basically just deletes the metadata which mark the disk space as occupied, the data itself (1s and 0s) remains
some formatting tools actually 0 out the data, after this its truly gone

>>105970423
you only overwrite the partition table when you do a quick format
that's a few KB at the start of the disk

>>105970400
zen6 is going to be on am5, why are you talking out of your ass
am5 is probably going to last a long time, ddr5 is nowhere near its limit and pcie 5.0 is still crazy overkill for consumer cards

>>105966335 (OP)
This piece of shit won’t start, I can’t even get to the boot menu

>>105970522
>Post says 'Not to mention they've hidden 30% of extra performance of the non-XT behind a vBIOS.'
>'hidden 30% of extra performance'
>Seething Radeon ESL makes it a pricing argument.
Kek'd. Go to your Indian tech websites.

>>105970497
Happy for you. Another happy KTC miniLED customer.

>>105970556
why does intel attract low iq tech illiterates
inb4 brainlet connected dp/hdmi to his mobo with F CPU model

>>105970621
i'm still in disbelief that it was $399. I got the red magic monitor for $999 in 2023.

>>105970621
>>105970497
KTC sars, the deposit has been sent
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1m3nwof/my_ktc_monitor_just_combusted/

>>105970490
Not my problem. I got the microcenter 2 year replacement on this and I will just short it and get all my money back when I want a new card as well. I'll get the entire $630 back in store credit and buy a 6070 or 6070ti with it.

>>105970687
that's an OLED though

>>105970657
I used Intel Core i7-12700K

>>105970549
I'm willing to wait with my 5700x until am6 comes out.

fun fact: you can have 3x 4k 160hz monitors with the exact same timings, but because the nvidia drivers are garbage, the memory clock will still stay maxed

>>105970490
I got a Nitro+ for about 800 yurocoins so it can't be $800 pre-VAT.

>>105970687
One out of how many monitors?

>>105970732
>house fuse
Do yuros really not have ac or breakers or gfci?

i will be liveblogging about this monitor for weeks probably btw, so call me a shill or whatever now. get it out of your system

>>105970748
Bongs are not white

>>105970787
>5090
>va smears
Allah cries

>>105970787
It's good to have people share real product feedback in /pcbg/.

>>105970812
The 4K KTC miniLED has an IPS panel.

>>105970787
does steam overlay still shit itself if you take screenshots with hdr enabled?

>>105971030
yes. gamebar screenshots should work in hdr though.

>>105966335 (OP)
>990 Pro (Windows)
Forgive my ignorance but why Windows?

>>105970812
like that other anon said, it's ips, and i already have an OLED anyway. i prefer mini led though because i like not having to baby my shit

>>105970748
OP is retarded and means breaker when he says fuse

should i pull the trigger

>>105971078
Samsung SSD drives don't run well on Linux, but they're good in Windows.

>>105971146
Why aren't you going for 4K?

>>105971162
>SSD drives

>>105971177
i don't believe in 4k
even with 5090 it's impossible to get good fps with real frames

>>105971202
You should get the new QD-OLED panel then, HDR TB 500 & 500Hz.

so if im scared of oled can i just get miniled?

>>105971202
fake frames are good though. 3x is the sweet spot for 160hz in ue5 slop and you need around 3x to get it

How big of a price difference is there really if I just buy a prebuilt as opposed to building it myself?

>>105971202
Run games in 1080p w/4x Integer Scaling.
Text and fine details will still look better on account of the superior pixel density getting rid of the color fringing from these non-RGB OLEDs. Or do what >>105971248 said and get the new 500Hz OLEDs that not only refresh faster but have more brightness (~300 vs. 250 nits full screen):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIFPzQ5L-ZM

>>105971202
Stop playing shit games. Anything that stresses a 5090 is a movie game anyways and 120fps is enough for that. Everything good will run at double.

>>105971075
shameful
more people should whine about it

>>105971249
mini led is okay/good for games, but if you want to watch movies in HDR, oled is undefeated and it's not even close.

>>105971302
This, I don't understand people caring about framerate to play last of us 2. Shit like dota 2 or cs2 run on a fucking toaster in 4k with high fps. The fuck *competitive* game are we playing that isn't well optimized?

>>105971280
Usually several hundred dollars. Example:

The cheapest 5070-based prebuilt I found on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/HOENGAGER-Hoengaegr-Panorama-Gaming-PC/dp/B0F1Y88FD7?xpid=HaBRaTJreFmZj
5070 12GB RAM, 5700X, 32GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, 650 PSU, Windows 11 - $1380
Most others are $1600-1700+

Speccing out the same or better parts separately:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RBwqfd
Roughly $130 saved and with a larger PSU for expand-ability and a faster CPU in the 7700X w/DDR5 RAM

>>105971280
Unless you get a costco manager markdown you will save by building yourself and have better components

by the way, the ktc monitor came with firmware version 1.01..which is older than the 1.08 on the japanese reviewer's monitor...unless different regions have different versions?

>>105971489
to clarify...mine specifically says USA-1.0.1

>>105971280
At least a few hundred.

>>105971280
about tree fiddy

>>105971445
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RBwqfd
...Any downsides to just buying this?

>>105971445
>>105971543
Does that SSD have onboard RAM buffer?

>>105971543
The 5070 newegg pricing is kind of fake.
You pay $650 worth of taxes, and might get a $100 store gift card credit afterwards.
So buy the card first and wait until you get the store credit before you buy the other parts in Newegg.

Can someone give me a critique on this? Just planning to put these into my existing case with my 3090.

GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE mb
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X
CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 2x32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL40 1.35V UDIMM (these are a bit faster than mb max, but are a good deal rt now)

+ a DeepCool AK400

Hey anons,

im using a pretty old PC - i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
16gb ddr3 ram
MSI Z87-G43 motherboard
and GTX 1050 Ti (4gb ram)

Im not having any problems in playing most games I want to. But now when I have to move big files and overall I think my CPU is slowing down the PC.

Im thinking about upgrading Motherboard and CPU.
Lets say my budget is 200$ for this operation.

Would you even bother upgrading or save like 1000 $ for a total new build at this point?

>>105971657
A 9950X with a single tower 120mm cooler is not ideal. It won't throttle it but it will need to spin to 100% to keep your all-core clock up. I'd suggest st least spending $40 on a basic dual tower or going up to a large AIO if you value silence. Should also shoot for CL30 RAM unless you know your main workload doesn't care about latency.

>>105971698
Excellent, thank you

>>105971683
>Would you save like $1000 for a total new build at this point?
How long would that take and, more importantly, would it actually benefit you? If you only play (eg.) Balatro you're not going to feel much uplift.

>>105971543
Honestly even though I whipped that together in 3 minutes, not really. If you got an extra $40 I would recommend a 2TB NVME drive because it's the better deal $/GB wise and give you more storage for how large modern game downloads are:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4cG3C/silicon-power-ud90-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005

Also if you don't mind Intel, a 14600K/DDR4-based system would be comparable in performance and knock off another $100:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnTPkf

>>105971589
A DRAM cache doesn't really make too much difference with the advent of modern HBM-based NVMEs these days that will just borrow a bit of system RAM to create a pseudo-cache for system I/O.

>>105970825
that is better

>>105971081
>baby my shit
you are just gonna buy a new one at the end anyway by the looks of it
might aswell make an endurance test for the rest of us for now

>>105971146
no the XG27AQDPG just dropped
surely it will be availible in burgeristan soon

>>105971683
The most economical option for you is to buy a used CPU + motherboard + memory combo.
You might get lucky with a Ryzen 5000 or Intel 12th gen used combo, it won't be easy to find one near your budget.

>>105971683
Your pc is going into middle school right now anon. Why don't you just keep the 1050ti for now and build a cheap am5 machine then upgrade later.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($170.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($82.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($56.95 @ iBUYPOWER)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 (2024) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $673.31

Just get a better cpu when prices are lower, drop in another 32gb of ram when prices are lower, and get a new video card when you decide to play any games made after 2014 at anything above 1080p. You can keep this machine for another 12 years that way.

>>105971657
why not 9950x3d

>>105971081
Can I just buy an oled at microcenter with their replacement plan and then get my money back when it burns in or fucks up?

>>105971801
It's a 3090, he probably just coomgens and isn't playing games. Just uses it for the vram. Otherwise he would have a different video card by now.

>>105971802
i suppose

>>105971801
I don't really care about games, and the differential seems relatively small other than some edge cases. Could be convinced otherwise.

>>105971775
Yeah im considering something used the most so I can use this sentimental PC longer. Its getting pretty funny because most of the compontents have already changed.

>>105971737
Well, not long, like 2 months or 3.
Im used to playing like BF1 in pretty mid settings but im getting low FPS from time to time. Im playing SC2 but have to go mid graphics settings. Im not playing new AAA games anyway.


>>105971789
And thats why Im kind of thinking about used MB instead of a new one - its getting funny at this point that the PC is so old.

Is it still true that Intel is worse than AMD? Im used to this intel processor lol

>>105971489
>>105971500
Yeah KTC can be slow to roll out firmware updates to all regions but you can still flash to the lastest ver. if you can can navigate to the correct country on their website (might have to re-select the English language option in the OSD since it may default to Japanese/Chinese/etc).
https://old.reddit.com/r/ktc/comments/1j0bunq/ktc_monitors_firmware_update/

>>105971772
>no the XG27AQDPG just dropped
>surely it will be availible in burgeristan soon
The OEMs really are tripping over their own dicks to get those new 500hz QD-OLEDs out to market as fast as they can, huh?

>>105971802
Yup.

>>105971864
Okay yeah I think you should build a new rig. For all you're doing with it I reckon you could go lower than $1k (equivalent) but don't cheap out too hard either.

>>105971864
Intel is a worse choice because they abandon their platform every 1-2 years making your motherboard obsolete. Amd has been releasing new am4 chips for 9 fucking years now. If you're a long term user, amd is the better choice. You can ship of theseus your pc on it. Intel is still the better choice for integrated graphics on laptops though.

>>105971864
If you go used board + CPU shopping, try to get at least a Ryzen 5600/X or Intel 12400 CPU.
Don't fall for the Ryzen 5500/G or 5700G trap; the CPU cores perform closer to the 3600 and 3700 equivalents.

>>105971869
I see the cn firmware goes up to 1.0.8 with some interesting changes. I'm gonna shoot ktc an email and see if it's safe to update first though...

>>105971978
Sounds good.

>>105971941
He should check ali express for a 5700x3d. Sometimes they go for $150 on there.

>>105971941
>>105971919
>>105971912
Thank you, you have been very nice to me anons. I will think this through, I can see those 12400 chips very cheap on used market so maybe I will go this route for now and then pass on my PC to someone else while building a new one.
Im just hoping this would bring me some better quality of use on everyday tasks as well like spamming f5 on the catalog, PC feels sluggish and I think the main reason is the CPU at this point even though the ram is ddr3.

>>105972033
Really at this point your whole PC is slow as hell. If you upgraded any one component the rest would hold you back so better to make a fresh start of it.

How do I get over the ""fear"" of tinkering with hardware? I always think I'm gonna break something and just dusting my PC off from the inside already is a bit iffy although I have done it quite a few times. Doesn't help that I don't currently have the money for new components.

>>105972067
if you are afraid it's because you can't afford to replace it so you shouldn't mess around with it until you can

Huh I just installed armory create after first boot but I'm reading I fucked up...

>>105972067(me)
>>105972098
Just want to maximize the lifespan, that's all.

>>105972109
armory crate is bloatware

>>105972109
use the uninstaller that's included on the asus page for every mobo because >>105972120

>>105972115
well that's different. you can't really damage anything if your plan is to like, undervolt or something. you should be extra careful when you dust off components though, that's usually how cables get loosened and things start melting

>>105972138
Things start melting?

I'm going to take my PC outside for some dust cleaning thx to you guys.

>>105972183
losely connected cables melt all the time, son. it's one of the reasons why 40/5090s melt. not the only reason of course, but it is one of them.

>>105967452
> it will allow developers to do more with less
But developers only want to do even less with whatever they have at their disposal, be it more, the same or less.

>>105967589
> Zen 6 is next year.
By the end of next year and becoming available in sufficient numbers only another half year later. And only if nothing totally unforeseeable happens with Taiwan.

>>105972209
Had no idea that sort of thing could happen :o

Anyway. I know I personally learn the best by doing things myself but as of now due to my budget or the lack thereof, but could you recommend any good (preferably visual) resources on getting atleast a basic grasp on hardware details etc.

>>105972265
Good thing I can just keep waiting until AM6 anyway

>>105971739
Yeah I'll definitely need more storage, I might even go 3 or 4 TB because of all my roms.
>Also if you don't mind Intel
Both of my [spoiler]gaming laptops[/spoiler] have intel and I'm ready to try AMD honestly.

>>105972283
Watch the Messer A+ course on youtube

>>105972313
Thank you! This seems good.

>>105972305
you can't hide your shame from us

>>105971739
Yeah I'll definitely need more storage, I might even go 3 or 4 TB because of all my roms.
>Also if you don't mind Intel
Both of my previous shitty gaming laptops have intel and I'm ready to try AMD honestly.

what is the maximum number of monitors at what hz does the 9070xt support

Where do I find a page like this for it?

>>105972367
4 outputs

>>105971869
>The OEMs really are tripping over their own dicks to get those new 500hz QD-OLEDs out to market as fast as they can, huh?
wouldn't the OEM be Samsung in this case
the MSI was the first one reviewed on youtube but Asus is the first one I have seen in stock eu
what really jogs my nog is why they can't make a controller that can handle more res at higher refreshs faster
the panels themselves can already handle like 1000hz most likely
just shit controllers that can't cope with the pixels?
LG Is actually and factually releasing a 540hz WOLED with a fucking 720p 720hz mode
but also the connectors I guess. DP2.1 with dsc handles like 4k up to 12bit 750hz

>3x 4k 160hz
>1x 4k 240hz
>and they all just werk
if the 50 series did one thing right, it's adding all that additional bandwidth for more displays. ironically, that seems to be what is causing so many issues with their drivers though

>>105972332
I would just get a spinning rust drive for huge files that arent the games you're using at that point. 10tb should be like $100. I keep my entire library of games on one and just move them to my m.2 if I'm playing it a lot and it has high load times.

>>105972488
4 years ago that would have been $80. I hate the antichrist.

>>105972488
I was going through my games drive a could days ago and it's crazy seeing these AC games go from 10GB in like 2015 to 150GB today. Frickin Unity looked better than Vallhalla

>>105972488
If I run games from that, it'll make them run slower, no?

>>105972552
>and just move them to my m.2 if I'm playing it a lot and it has high load times.
read nigga

>>105972552
don't run games on that
storage only

>>105972138
What do I use instead for fan control and all that

>>105972484
making so one connector does not operate with 2 separate display connections if they use dsc into 1 was big, so upscaling works even when you use dsc and don't need to disable it and so on too
many improovments

>>105968976
What if I want an AIO that isn't a pain in the fucking dick?

>>105968976
It's true, for most people, the first AIO installation is annoying af. If you have a fan cooler, you can just clamp that bitch on. Takes no brain.

>>105968976
Waiting for noctua aio, they will get it right.

>>105973154
>>105973215
>>105973298
RELEASE THE FUKKEN THERMOPSIPHON ALREADY YOU COWARDS.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/liquid-cooling/noctuas-futuristic-thermosiphon-cooler-is-back-and-bigger-than-ever-at-computex-2025-but-still-no-closer-to-release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoRlbuEnmgo&t=86s

you guys know any approved 1TB ssd deals going on right now storage? my 250gb drive not enough.

>>105973533
Whatever is cheapest and not a pcie 5 housefire

>>105973503
noctua feels like peak european company
they create something great and then fall behind muttmericans and asians because of nonstop siestas

>>105973533
if you only have a 250gb drive, then your rig must be pretty old
does your mobo even support nvme
if it doesnt you might as well get m.2 sata ssd, those should be pretty cheap

my pc

>Ryzen 9 9950X3D, 16C/32T, 5.7GHz boost, 3D V-Cache
>MSI MPG X870E CARBON WIFI mobo, AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7, 5GbE + 2.5GbE
>64GB DDR5-6400 CL32 Kingston FURY Beast RGB (Hynix A-die, 2×32GB)
>Gigabyte RTX 5090 GAMING OC, 32GB GDDR7, triple fan, HDMI + 3x DP
>2× Samsung 9100 PRO 4TB PCIe 5.0 NVMe drives in RAID 0
>RAID via AMD RAIDXpert2 in BIOS, getting ~14–17 GB/s (expect 28–30 GB/s)
>Corsair 3500X ARGB mid-tower, dual tempered glass, 3× RS120 ARGB fans
>iCUE LINK TITAN 360 RGB LCD AIO with RX120s + 1 extra RS120
>3x Thermaltake Swafan EX12 RGB 120 mm PC Case Fan
>NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1 PSU, fully modular, PCIe 5.0 native
>Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + Corsair MM100 pads
>subtotal pre-tax: $7,849.88 CAD

should have did a software RAID 0 in windows, but really it doesn't affect loading speed much anyway. most of my loading time at this point is CPU bound decompressing artifacts and other things like that.

>>105973696
using it with a 55" 4k 120hz OLED tv right now, might upgrade to a 4k 240Hz OLED display with DP 2.1

>>105973533
>you guys know any approved 1TB ssd deals going on right now storage? my 250gb drive not enough.
Not really, your best bet is to either bookmark or leave open in a tab this link:
https://diskprices.com/?locale=us&condition=new%2Cused&disk_types=internal_ssd%2Cm2_ssd%2Cm2_nvme%2Cu2

My pick for a 1TB would be this one for $55:
https://www.newegg.com/team-group-1tb-mp33-pro-nvme-1-3/p/N82E16820331563
There are other drives for $50, but the extra $5 gets you TLC-based NAND that has higher theoretical flash endurance.

Ideally, you'd be better off with a 2TB drive as they are cheaper on a per-GB basis like this one for $90:
https://us-store.msi.com/PC-Components/Storage-Devices/SPATIUM-M461-2TB

>>105973590
Don't the Chinese take off from like mid Jan to mid Feb?

Huh, so this is the power of AMD...

>>105973696
raid 0ing your os to 8tb is reall fucking dumb imo
if you wanted more performance, a 800gb p5800x will steamroll any gen5 nvme ssd

>>105973716
oh nice thanks for the links. 2tb does sound better

Is it true that 27inch 1080p monitors look bad?

>>105973773
that thing is pcie gen4 and only does 7GB/s read/write speed?

a single 9100 PRO does 14GB/s by itself

>>105973696
>not one but two pcie5 ssds
>rgb out of ass, aio with lcd screen
more money than common sense clearly
enjoy your build i guess

also why thermal pads with thermal paste
you are supposed to one or the other
the less material between coldplate and cooling block the better
paste is just used to fills the tiny gaps and uneven surfaces

>>105973870
actually thats supposed to be a corsair mouse pad not thermal pad, and turns out the TITAN 360 has pre-applied thermal paste anyway

what's wrong with RGB and LCD aio aside from subjective difference in taste?

>>105973870
>2 pcie5 ssds

that cuts a 64GB LLM loading time in half, nothing wrong with pcie5 if you work with huge files

>>105973696
including your fucking OS in a RAID format is the height of stupidity. I have a heap of ssds+m.2 drives in my rig, i am quite happy keeping them all separate.

other than my instinctive distaste for you paypigging for the Njudean flagship gpu, its a nice rig, despite the ugly case, there's simply better ones out there. Please lift it off the carpet though, Corsair cases are shit at dust filtering.

>>105973696
Is the MCLK:UCLK running at 1:1 mode with that memory EXPO setting?

>>105974067
why does the awesome performance of NVIDIA RTX 5090 make you froth at the mouth with rage?
AMD doesn't even offer a GPU in that performance class

>>105974067
>including your fucking OS in a RAID format is the height of stupidity.
it's not stupid. just back up your files. hoping your computer never crashes or you never have a fire/flood is far stupider.

>I have a heap of ssds+m.2 drives in my rig, i am quite happy keeping them all separate.

nah not me. i like just clicking install and not having to worry about which type of files or apps go into which drive. much cleaner and easier. i just really hate the clutter of having a bunch of different drives with different stuff on them personally.

>b-but if the RAID crashes you lose your files!
realistically the NVMe drives aren't going to fail, let's be honest. all my important files are backed up, i can easily reinstall all the lost games and its really not a big deal at all desu. I have too much money anyway, I already know i'll only keep this rig for 2-3 years until the 6090 comes out and i'm gonna build a whole new rig from scratch. i know its a big waste of money but i dont care i love building new PCs.

the case is definitely not great, i would have preferred something like a fractal torrent, like i have on my other 4090 rig. (which btw has never crashed in RAID 0 either)

>>105974159
I've got a 4 slot pcie > m.2 nvme adapter I've been wanting to do this with but have been too lazy because it would take the lanes of my current boot nvme so I would need to reinstall the OS

>>105966896
Indian space agency picture?

>>105974131
nah i just checked, its 2:1. but I can probably go into BIOS and set it to 1:1 and it will likely work. 6400 at 2:1 is still faster than 6000 at 1:1 tho

>>105967561
excuse me sars, but AMD is a very good value! Nvidia very expensive!

I took a nap earlier, and when I woke up I heard a noise from the other room, computer fan at 100%.
It should have been idle, and even then it's usually only the 3x graphics card fans I hear, everything else is Noctua.

For some reason the psu fan was running non-stop. I don't think I've ever heard that fan before. Seasonic Vertex PX-1200, four months old maybe?
I took the sides of the case off, the psu housing was cool to the touch, all of the other fans were minimal/off.
Looking at temps, processes, etc everything else was how I expected.

This didn't persist after a reboot.
Spooky stuff.

>>105974248
A racehorse just has to run sometimes. Stop stabling him

>>105974219
yeah but who doesnt like a fresh clean OS install, start fresh with a nice RAID setup and put that adapter to use

>>105973820
>Is it true that 27inch 1080p monitors look bad?
Yes. Either drop down to 24" for 1080p or increase your resolution requirement to avoid huge pixels/aliasing and screen door effect. See:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/1080p-vs-1440p-vs-4k#how-does-the-resolution-affect-you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEKtElvxl8A
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wrNefo8Vod5ih3sDrkdyw-On8nbvP-irodcjdSFHH34/template/preview

>>105974279
I have a bunch of work bullshit saved to the boot drive that I would have to reinstall. When I quit this job I will.

>>105973855
sequential read/write is a useless metric compared to random 4k read

You ever have these little bars not line up with the graphics card vents?
I know it doesn't really make a difference, but it's annoying.

Pretty sure this is my last Lian-Li case.

>>105974439
hmm thats interesting, i guess its pretty good for games. but for huge LLMs that saturate the RAM, the 9100 is still twice as fast

>>105974248
Windows was doing its things while it was idle. Never heard of it going hard enough to stress a system though.

I have been thinking of getting new PC as my current one is a bit over 10 years old now and
acquaintance is willing to sell this to me for 2k€, all parts are new.
>Ryzen 7 7800X3D
>RX 9070 Prime OC
>B650-S Pro WIFI
>Peerless Assassin 120 SE
>Deepcool PN850M
>1TB Kingston SSD
>32G Kingston Ram
I don't know anything about computers so decided to ask you guys, is he trying to rip me off?

>>105974741
what country specifically?

>>105974741
I would say he's only making ~€300-500 off you

>>105974741
I'm in the US, so not familiar with prices in Europe.
That price isn't far off, but it's not a deal, maybe 20% inflated from what I would expect, buying similar parts from Microcenter.

All of those are pretty recent parts though, you should be able to plug them into pcpartpicker, to get an estimate what they're currently going for.

>1TB Kingston SSD
Is this really an nvme? Apart from that, it's a pretty solid build.

>>105974741
>all parts are new

then you can just order them yourself and not get scammed

>>105974846
Finland
>>105974848
Ouch, i was expecting like 100-200
>>105974864
>Is this really an nvme?
As far as i know yes, is there something wrong with it?
>>105974865
As i said i don't understand anything about computers, i happily pay a bit extra if it means i get one that works and i don't have to worry about breaking it.

>>105974741
why would you buy a 2nd hand computer instead of ordering parts urself and have warranty on each *new* part
>2k€
2nd hand 2000 euro computer even.

thats silly

>>105974741
>https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/PJ9t2x
There's about a 25% markup so you can save about 400EUR building it yourself

>>105974993
All of the parts separately come to 1500 american dollars. What does that translate into euros?

>>105975027
Google has that function you know.
1,500 United States Dollar equals
1,289.56 Euro

>>105975088
pc parts cost a lot more outside of the us

>>105975164
finland has 25.5 VAT while places like germany have 5% lower too

>>105975192
VAT is just one layer of cost adding. There's intermediaries like regional distributors and aib region specific pricing that raises cost in other locations compared to the US

>>105975211
you can largely order a part from online stores anywhere in the union
a german store might only sell to germans but they allow setting up a middleman service who takes the part and transfers it to finland
That largely limits local prices to be in line with whats available in germany.

Stuff thats heavy to move like TV's and furtniture might have more friction due to how shipping works for them.

What's a good budget motherboard, I dont need wifi and bluetooth on it cause I have that externally covered. Planning to use it with Ryzen 9600X and RX 9060XT

>>105975640
there's no such thing anymore

all the cheap boards come with terrible i/o and onboard sound

>>105975719
What? I heard all budget boards are more than good enough since the standard is so high

>>105975728
a620 is honestly worse than office prebuilt spec

I do more web browsing and shitposting than gaming, so I'm afraid of OLED

>>105975826
what if you bought a 55" qd oled tv, used that for media use and keep 4chan on a VA monitor

>>105975192
Why do we hungarians have it the worst?

>>105975830
I don't have space for that

>>105975839
you dont have a 2m wide wall anywhere nearby?

>>105975735
Reading up on these things, I do not know why _10 and _20 models exist. They are very very slightly less expensive than _50 and _60 models, what is the point?

>>105975728
There is some confusion with standards here. When we the DIY PC community (here or anywhere else) say "budget" we mean something like a B650 or B850. Those are technically the middle of the road boards but there's so little to cut down from these that they end up being the "minimum". The boards which are a class lower than these often have such bottom of the barrel design tradeoffs like actually weak VRMs and no heatsink that they can potentially affect performance. However inside the product space of those midrange boards virtually all of their variants are good to go for even the beefiest components like a Ryzen 9.

>>105975849
it's not practical for me right now so I'm stuck with 1 good monitor for the desktop, I use another monitor for my work laptop

>>105975875
if you're employed whats the matter
just buy another oled in 2 years if old one gets burn in

>>105975826
>>105975875
Cheap IPS monitor for desktop/browsing + OLED monitor for gaming/video on a cheap monitor arm like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/BONTEC-Monitor-Adjustable-Upgraded-Rotation/dp/B0DSKYHTRK
Simple.

Budget/Mid-range built, thoughts? I wanna use this for at least 5 years
>AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
>GIGABYTE B650 EAGLE AX
>DeepCool AK620 Zero Dark
>Team Group 32 GB DDR5-6000 Kit
>PowerColor Radeon RX 9060 XT Reaper 16G
>WD Blue SN5000 NVMe 2TB
>Antec NX360 Mid Tower Case
>Corsair CX750 750W PSU

>>105975924
the psu has some confusion on reddit of quality. some CX are shit, some are ok so beware
consider nvidia 5070 over 9060
case is a bit sus

otherwise seems fine

>>105975937
5070 and not 5060ti? Any reasons?
And what case/psu do you recommend that doesnt cost a fortune and just does its job? (I dont care about fancy shit)

>>105975948
5070 is best value gpu
5060/ti has shit perf per dollar in comparison

lian li is typical budget case brand
the psus with atx 3.0+ and 750w seem to be around 120€ so idk.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>>105975989
How is it best value when it's expensive af and only has 12 gb compared to 16gb of 9060 for 200 dollars less?

>>105976006
it has more power and better features?
4gb more vram doesnt directly translate to more fps or better general experience

>>105976012
Games are becoming more and more demanding, choosing 12gb vram is shooting yourself in the foot.

>>105976038
if thats a huge concern for you 5070 super is out in 2026

>>105974159
>much cleaner and easier
its not, setting up individual drives for individual tasks (gaming, media+documents, OS+essential drives) is cleaner and easier, not to mention the ease of restoration if you have a DRIVE FAILURE, or even just corruption, a dodgy windows install will fuck up everything on the drive its sitting on potentially, and the Pajeets coding winblows today are not to be trusted.

>its never crashed on raid0
so what? i never had a drive fail on me in my life, until i bought a teamgroup ssd, which died in 6 months.

>>105976064
it's way messier and horrible.

video games:
>save files
>config files
>shader caches
>directX libs and drivers
>crash logs, steam settings etc
and all kinds of random shit get installed to OS drive

same goes for many other applications. you can't possibly hope to avoid contaminating the OS drive with tons of random shit from your game and app installs.

the only thing that can be kept cleanly separated is media and maybe documents.

it's just so ugly and janky having a bunch of messy drives that supposedly do one thing but are all interlinked. you have to set the install and save location manually in so many apps, its just a huge hassle pain in the ass headache nightmare. not worth the hassle man.

what do you REALLY need to protect from a drive failure? any important files should always be backed up to external drive and cloud. code files are always in git, apps are containerized, docs are all in the cloud, photos backed up, windows settings backed up etc. it's all backed up.

and i've never had a drive fail either. the old wisdom of not installing windows on a RAID is outdated boomerism

>>105975836
more like hungerians

>>105975192
what's the justification for vat anyway?
>You buy something
>We the government take a cut from that
why? We just have to okay.

/pcbg/ stop being dead and create a new thread already.

>>105976405
taxes are typically used to maintain the welfare system, pay for public infrastructure and so on
>>105976424
why?

>>105976429
>why?

>>105976405
how else will the government afford to pay immigrants to stay in your country? will you please think of the poor politicians...

>>105976424
>>105976434
do it yourself
i'm done making ops for a while because of the brand autists it attracts

>>105976434
the only reason someone makes a thread prior to old one archiving is brand wars shitposting and rushing to do it before the "other team" does it

I dont understand whats your issue

>>105976447
>I dont understand whats your issue
I want to make a question but it's going to get buried in page 10 without answer.

>>105976452
you can make same question twice
no ones going to laugh at you since its anonymous

also the thread takes several hours to archive

sup, rate my build getting it this friday https://pcpartpicker.com/list/szFbYd
it's actually a bit cheaper for me at $1020
>The Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i5-14400 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor with BIOS version F15. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.
is gigabyte Q-flash going to be ass though?

>>105976667
>4060 8GB

Why not a 5060?

>>105976667
> 14th gen instead of a modern CPU
> old platform with ddr4
> 8GB GPU
> DRAM-less NVMe
> Buying an old, overpriced PSU that doesn't even have 12V-2x6
4/10, anon.

GIGABYTE AORUS FO32U2P
or
ASUS ROG PG32UCDM
?

>>105976809
I like the ASUS OSD better than Gigabyte.

>>105976708
no physx and 32bit cuda, also can't really get 5060 used here yet
cheap ones are all gigabyte who seem to have thermal gel problems
>>105976775
>modern CPU
I want intel to carry windows over
>old platform
newer will be +$500 in platform and +$600 in GPU, nothing less makes sense and I'm not gamer enough for $2000 upgrade, for 1080p 60hz
>with ddr4
I already have that DDR4
>8GB GPU
I only play 1080p
>DRAM-less NVMe
not seem to worth it to overpay
>PSU
From B-tier and above, only CM MPY or Seasonic Focus GOLD 750 are available here, for the same price. And Seasonic is not modular.
>12V-2x6
4060 doesn't need it

Any news on when the release Date for RTX 50 Super series?

>>105976860
next year

>>105976869
CES next year then? What about RDNA 5? 2027

>>105976879
like early next year
also theres no rdna5. udna is when ps6/next xbox comes out. they're all in development as we speak.

any monitor recommendation for me? my monitor is 24" Dell S2417DG. The monitor has some weird scanlines that makes the text cut off and on again.

>>105976886
I see, is it advisable to buy the RTX 5070 Super when it comes out?

t. using 3070ti and 1440p monitor

>>105976894
you can buy a 9070xt now for around $650-700 and it will get you 144fps at 1440p or double with afmf2/fsr4

>>105976911
The price still quite high in my country. I will wait and play older games in the meantime.

>>105976852
Why do you want 32 bit CUDA and PhysX? Not defending Nvidia here but I find it a very esoteric feature to fight for in this day and age.

>I want intel to carry windows over
What a retarded reason to stay on an old platform.

> newer will be +$500 in platform
B650 + 9600 + 32GB DDR5 might reach that value, but note that an AM5 motherboard means you will most likely be able to upgrade to a ZEN6 and perhaps even ZEN7 without spending any more money. That's several years of upgradability.

>I only play 1080p
8GB can very negatively affect 1% lows even at 1080p on modern titles. Take into consideration that modern consoles have 16GB and developers aren't going to cater to VRAMlet GPUs, especially developers that don't give a shit about proper usage of RAM+VRAM

> only CM MPY or Seasonic Focus GOLD 750 are available here
I don't know where "here" is, but if the amazon US is available, then you have an ocean of PSUs to choose from.

what's the successor for my 12400F? 9800x3d?

Next:
>>105977002
>>105977002
>>105977002

>>105976926
the intel core 9 190K 12-pcore that's launching in 3-6 months

>>105975924
CX 550 is the one to avoid, OP updated to recommend 650W model.
The other decent budget PSU option is the MSI MAG A-BN, but I think Corsair has more experience of selling & servicing PSUs.

>>105976888
You need to share details like budget, desired monitor size & resolution.

>>105976926
The discounted 14600K drop-in upgrade is the most economical option for you, after a BIOS update.
The stock 14600K's maximum boost clock doesn't require high enough voltage to start any degradation issues.

If you want a 9800X3D, find motherboard & memory deals.

>>105975937
This is why I avoid Corsair. Everything is a grab bag when it comes to what you're actually getting.

>>105977033
is it going to be any better than core-ultra? that was pretty shit