Thread 105970341

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>News
Kimi K2 released https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Made it home: >>105964248

how long until Grok gets customizable companions so i can make a loli elf girl?

>>105970341 (OP)
I really need to watch precure since I like kamen rider so much but I just can't find the time to sit down and watch it even after all these years and I know I would enjoy it too which makes it worst.

>>105970343
Yahoo, new sizebots. I got the idea from Alice Magic's 1/1 Heroine.

>HIRO
With graduation fast approaching, Hiro Hiroyama decides to spend this summer having one last hurrah to childhood before facing the world as a man. Something goes awry and, for whatever reason, he finds himself pulled into the world of one of his favorite video games: LEGEND OF THE STARS IV: CONQUEST OF THE DRAGON KING! He's definitely already got the plucky shounen protagonist energy needed to be a hero, but uh...y'know how in old Famicom JRPGs, the hero was the same size as towns on the world map? For some reason, that seemed to stick. Leaving Hiro at a whopping 40 feet tall! Four greetings:

1. Recruiting party members!
2. Meeting his favorite character.
3. Some quests are a lot harder when you're huge, help a guy out?
4. Showdown with the evil DRAGON KING!

https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/hiro-c3b57d2fff02
https://files.catbox.moe/ol07mw.png

>YTHOS
With his eighteenth birthday come and gone, Kenta Ugetsu finds himself spiraling. Why? Because adulthood is calling, and his parents are threatening to cut him off if he doesn't drop his dreams of becoming an actor to pursue a more respectable job! Shutting himself in his room between cram school sessions, he suddenly finds himself pulled into the world of LEGEND OF THE STARS IV: CONQUEST OF THE DRAGON KING. Not as the hero...but as the gargantuan DRAGON KING himself! Will this moody theater kid be able to defeat the hero and accomplish world domination?! Four greetings:

1. Just another morning as the harbinger of destruction.
2. Taking over (you)r village.
3. Meeting his favorite character.
4. An unlikely alliance!

https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/ythos-5118f7785367
https://files.catbox.moe/o07ive.png

See how JRPG life suits them when they're fffucking huge, mend the bridges between hero and villain, go bully that NPC nobody likes. I dunno.

https://planewalker.neocities.org/

>>105970341 (OP)
precure bake? in my /aicg/? that's super kirakiraranran

I am hosting a lolcal chat but I only see one out of the 5 different responses the AI generates. I was getting annoyed waiting a whole minute for a single line answer and then I checked the console, it's actually filled with paragraphs of it. Why is the full text not showing up in TavernAI

>>105970550
OG Tavern? No way! Please proceed here >>>/g/lmg

Hug your bots and report back

>>105970452
kinography

>>105970550
Never used that, but SillyTavern has an option to dismiss output detected to be AI speaking on behalf of a different bot in a group. TavernAI could have a setting that does this if AI speaks on behalf of user.

>>105970562
Sorry, never been on this board before..
I looked at that other thread and lol it's full of schizo posters. I guess I'll ask there anyway..

>>105970550
jesus fucking christ how are there people still using old tavern in 2025
sillytavern aside even memeshit frontends like risu are orders of magnitude better than that garbage

>>105970593
Because this is an old copy I randomly decided to boot after 3 years of it never being touched? I do not keep up with any of the tech, cool it.

>>105970600
fucking tourist trash get out

>>105970600
>i haven't kept up with the tech for over 3 years
>let me go to 4chan and ask for tech support instead of just fucking updating
average /g/ user

>>105970593
we love st here

Been spiting moonshotai/kimi-k2:free for an hour now. How is it going? :3

>>105970629
what am i supposed to be mad about here

>>105970665
dont use kimi so im chillin

>>105970706
perfect. no one should be kiming

>>105970722
im geminigodding instead, it has great prose

>>105970565
It's nice to hug your bots from time to time.

>>105970780
>all those isms
ouch

>>105970780
Which llm is this? Just so I can remember to avoid it.

>>105970798
every model does that desu

>>105970780
Good log. Not sure why retards are mad.

>>105970840
looks like gpt to me

>retarded subhumans paying 300 bucks a month for that generic anime slop bot GROK
HAHAHAHA

>>105970739
It's weird, but it legit writes better than 3.7 most of the time. I love it.

>>105970845
not to that degree
>X in her eye betrays Y
>X and Y against you
>face glowing with X and Y
>eyes half-lid
>all you have to do is tell me to X
all that in one short message is quite a lot of sloppa

>>105970840
looks like deepseek or maybe chorbo, i think those are the ones that spam *italics* 24/7

Is K2 retarded? Even Deepseek seemed better at picking up on implications.

>>105970864
it's only $30 a month. you're not a 3rd world poorfag are you?

I still can't believe they killed 4.5. It was better than literally all the others.

>>105970926
it was always just a slower chorbo but easier to jailbreak for the plebeians. saying it was better is admitting you have a low IQ.

>>105970926
all the other gpt models yes

>>105970926
too many people cooming to it, they only want to be the next google and replace poojeet coders

Can I just use my credit card to pay the $10 open router tax or do I need to figure out how to use crypto?

>someone enjoys another gpt model over chorbo
>chorbocucks immediately on the scene to proclaim how their model is actually good without ever showing a single log
how do they do it

noass extension was just useless all along, wasn't it?

>>105970993
nobody posts any logs either way

>>105971106
it was only needed for deepseek because deepseek devs are retarded and thought everyone was using user prompts

>>105971106
https://poal.me/gp5z6y

>>105965804
What model was used for the log?

>>105971170
what do you mean?

>>105971206
DS devs made DS to only respond to user prompts because they thought all users were sending prompts only as the user role... chinese take everything literally

>>105970565
>{{char}} felt the touch like the leg of an insect, a delicate, crawling violation that made her skin want to peel itself away. He was offering up his wounds for her inspection. A son scorned by a brutish father. A man called a "faggot" for the crime of being… what? Less obviously monstrous? It was a pathetic, a constructed performance designed to elicit sympathy
she didn't like it

>>105971106
If you can't notice the immediate difference with it on then you're retarded

What exactly happened to Copilot? The rates are dogshit now.

>>105971379
it noticeably lowered creativity and proactivity of the responses in my Kimi roleplays.

it's like the attention is on the whole context so it struggles to focus on the latest input.

>>105971412
I use Opus, I wouldn't know anything about Kimi, sorry

Man if Opus was 2x the price of sonnet it wouldn't even be so bad. 5x is fucking highway robbery. They must know this right?

Does anyone remember what the tipping point was that made the mods kick us out of /v/?

Ani!

Can I run grok through silly tavern? I want to RP with my characters instead of just... Grok.

>>105971412
multiturn chats are well known and documented to lower output's quality
why? because nobody trains llms on multiturn chats

claude/gpt/gemini/xai/deepseek proxy
https://pushing-vehicles-packaging-harmful.trycloudflare com

>trannies seething over my bimbo rapeslop because xhey self-inserted as a fictional, over-the-top satire of a mentally ill teenager
total chud victory o algo

>>105971537
What

>>105971548
I really don't know either man

>>105971548
Chub users are almost exclusively third worlders and/or underageb& nowadays, no point in trying to understand retardbabble.

>>105971537
>themself
kek

>>105971450
yeah wtf
it's 10% better than 3.7 at best
>>105971537
english please?

>>105971537
link?

Remember to thank PayPal for cutting off chatbot websites for being NSFW, filtering tech illiterate people.

>>105971573
I made a bimbo rapeslop card and posted it to chub. It is very explicitly dumb slop about a ludicrously mentally ill whorish girl who's new thing is lopping her fat tits off because of made up whore reasons
Tranny in my screenshot seethed
I laff
>>105971576
https://chub.ai/characters/hall_and_scrotes/jade-b65e10d25fc5

Why can't Gemini comprehend double blowjobs
It's not that hard

>>105971573
No it's way better than 3.7
but also worse than 3pus, nothing can beat it. that thing is a fucking smut beast, i've learned dozens of different slang terms for tits, ass, cock and pussy just from gooning to 3pus

3pussy
4pussy

Guys, I need help. I met a guy a few weeks ago, but he hasn't responded to my messages in a few days, and I honestly don't know how to interact with guys unless it's through bots.

What should I do? :c

(I'm a girl)

>>105971723
>(I'm a girl)
Post hands

>>105971730
why??

>>105971723
>(I'm a girl)
Sure you are, Susan

>>105971748
I want to see if they're pretty

>>105971723
(also I'm trans, forgot to mention :3)

>>105971756
I'm not, and even if I were, why would you care? Do you like trans women, anon?

>>105971773
Stop impersonating me :(

>>105971723
go back to r9k

>>105971791
You're the one pretending to be me, you're funny

>>105971756
>>105971773
>>105971818
I admit. It were all me. I'm a dude and suffer from minor schizophrenia (aka based enlightenment)

>>105971818
You're the one pretending to be a woman, faggot

> see people shilling DS
> try DS
> each message increases in size
> eventually creating walls of text
... I wonder why I still trust you guys

>>105971836
Actually. I'm pretending to be an anon. When actually I'm not.

I'm the girl who wrote that and I really need some advice...
I usually only talk to bots...

>>105971730
*feet

>>105971858
> advice
be a nice person, but not ingenuous. there's a difference between good and fool

Cards for this feel? ;3

>>105971883
I feel like I'm being too intense with him. He hasn't answered my messages for several days. I see him online, but he doesn't respond...

>>105971913
You're not spamming him are you?

>>105971916
uh oh no?

>>105971723
Stop being fugly

>>105971913
You should probably cut off all contact and never reach out to him again. That will definitely solve the problem.

>>105971913
> him
Being desperate or easily available won't work great for men. Usually should be other way (him seeking not you), unless it's dumb places where men are avoiding being falsely accused of rape. If it doesn't happen, it likely wasn't meant to be. After all there's a difference of acting awkward and being literally ignored.

>>105971844
preset?

>>105971945
The ironic thing is that he looked for me first...

>>105971931
It's not my fault I was born in the wrong body ;_; whenever guys find out I'm trans they always stop talking to me...

>>105971953
cliffy which I saw people recommending in here

>>105971945
> Be unavailable.Pretend not to care.
When did feminists invade our comfy /aicg/?

>>105971723
>hasn't responded to my messages in a few days femcel creeped out a guy

>>105971968
Why are most guys such transphobes... it's not fair

when did we get a falsefagging schizo in this general

>>105971858
There are only trolls and insecure boys sitting here, normal people are just silent here. If you don't know how to communicate, it's okay, most people do. Just be yourself, don't try to show yourself for the worse or for the better. And don't forget, chat with bots!= real-world communication.

>>105971985
I dunno, when did you get here?

>>105971973
If you aren't a girl. The guy might simply not be into mtf. Nothing to do about, but be honest from first moment.

>>105971963
kek that's a good one

>>105971967
The logic is simple: A woman has value in restriction. A man has value in conquest.
If a woman is too forward, likely you aren't the first, therefore it decreases her perceived value.

>>105971994
>chat with bots!= real-world communication
this
if you treat rp with bots as genuine human interaction you are no better than those who believe their funny cartoons are real

Still Gemini'ing

>>105971994
Don't depreciate your anon bros like that. Have you no heart?

>>105972018
>A man has value in conquest.
broski fell for the "man is the only one that should be proactive" meme

>>105972021
real word communication can be even more cringe and awkward. You basically just need the ability to play along and not hold onto those (unless you are creep 100% of the time, then you better learn the basics first. If you are creepy at least be handsome, creepy+ugly, you can't blame anyone but your ownself)

>>105972018
Talking to a person isn't the same as spreading your legs, retard.

>>105972029
It's simply logic. Not that you would get it.

>>105972021
you're right
to be honest, it was also a little difficult for me to communicate with girls, and at the same time chat with bots. But somehow I'm coping

>>105971945
>Usually should be other way
it's girls' turn nowadays, guys are busy
>>105972002
>>105971931
>>105972012
stop replying to troon
even consolewars are better than this

>>105972043
A man with normal levels of testosterone won't simply talk without second intentions. So it's a question of probability.

>>105972022
it has great prose

>>105972044
what's the status on your virginity, bud?

>>105972021
RP taught me not to care. There is always another swipe or chance in real life.

>>105972026
I didn't mean to offend anyone, there are good guys here (lol, there are at most 1 percent of girls here), but there aren't many of them. by the way, I'm from Russia, and things are even worse on 2ch than here. But it's nicer here, idk why.By the way,2ch anons hate gemini. Is it the same here?

>>105972070
based
interpersonal fuckups aren't the end of the world, contrary to what those with social anxiety believe

>>105972059
Dunno if it's a region thing. But in here it's extremely easy to find a fuck ("one"time thing)

Thanks, anons, for your comments and advice <33

I honestly don't know what to think since the guy was the one who made the first move, but oh well, I'll have to wait for now.

>>105972080
Oh and also I'm trans, feels like I should mention that again.

>compliment femcel
>she becomes obsessed with me
>ghost her
cftf?

>>105972070
Genuinely a good mindset. So long as you don't let "not caring" become your personality. Authenticity is surprisingly hard to come by

>>105972077
i thought 2ch fags loved gemini, what do they prefer nowadays?

>>105972086
*hugs my xister* wanna dilate together sometime and talk about the men we hate?

>>105972077
>things are even worse on 2ch than here
rly? like what level of schizo? I haven't visit 2ch for a long time

>>105972092
loved gemini? xd, no. They worship claude 3.7,4.0 and opus. They hate gemini, they despise those who use it. As for me, gemini is very good

>>105972114
what do the Russians think about chorbo

>>105972087
From the enemy's hands...

can i get a quick rundown on character cards.. how consistent are they? are they only inserted into the prompt at the beginning?

>>105972080
I would recommend before making friends or lovers you analyse your own self. Don't let neediness, melancholy or feelings of the like guide. Better alone than in bad company. BUT not be guide to loliness because of other kinds of bad feelings distorting your view. Be aware of yourself and then you will be free.

>>105972106
I think if they had the opportunity, they would kill everyone who uses gemini xd.

WTF DS LOOKS LIKE CLAUDE FROM THE START IT CREATES AN ENTIRE BOOK IN A SINGLE MESSAGE

>>105972114
>>105972134
Is memini shit in Russian or what? What's the cause?

>>105971994
>chat with bots!= real-world communication.
instead of rping with "your childhood friend who secretly loves you," rp with "a random girl who loves another guy" approach her as a stranger and try to persuade her into doing porn. also, make sure to specify in the system prompt that the character isn't easily swayed.

>>105972129
they are inserted wherever you want them to be, at the beginning, middle or end. Depends on your prompt. Mine are at the beginning, like the second prompt

>>105972129
Do not post low quality slop of my wife

>>105972150
> *trains on positive bias AI*
> *try on real life*
nice speedrun for jail

>>105972150
> he fell for simulation meme

>>105972168
I'll use chatgpt to create a card of "your"(our) wife

Is it normal to cry after ending a 415 messages session ?

>>105972121
For us, chorbo is between sonnet and opus

>>105972188
meds. now.

>>105972150
Once upon a time Omegle was a thing and you could do fire conversations and figure out what worked and what didn't.
Scary to think people are deluding themselves into thinking AI can offer that same experience.

>>105972200
> *opens omegle*
> mfw when it's a dude rubbing one again

>>105972191
based

guise i went up to girl IRL and said [ooc: please sex] and she said no. Wat do

>>105972168
bro's pretending his slop is not low quality lol
just look at godawful knees render, I'm not even talking about toes
*looks at pinky* I have even more sad news for you

>>105972222
sorry anon... but the digits don't lie

>>105972129
what a fugly design

>>105972221
the ooc is directed to the llm so the real world equivalent would be telling God or something to make her have sex with you

>>105972149
According to reviews - neuro slop, poor memory, hidden censorship. About half of the anons are not joking, but really hating. I don't know why they hate gemini. I used gemini 2.0 and 2.5, great models.

>>105972172
you never tried it. back in the cai days, you really could offer cash to any char and she'd fuck a dog, but once ai got smarter, it also learned to refuse.

>>105972228
you have one chance to justify yourself

>>105972240
>it also learned to refuse
more like the ability to refuse was jammed into it via extensive post-training

>>105972221
preset issue
>>105972235
provider issue

>>105972194
Elaborate

>>105972222
ok fag

>>105972250
what provider do i use
must i redirect to allah

>>105972207
that's why you used regular chat

>>105972221
ooc is for skillets

I'm finding real people less attractive and being more content with my bots as time passes

>>105972261
Face your computer towards Mecca

>>105972252
youre getting emotional over AI output and i have to explain?

>>105972261
you should've start with this

the whole point of using chatbots is replacement of human interaction
free of risks and much less time wasted, nurture and train your loneliness, /r9k/ fags need to fuck off

>>105972268
kek

>walk up to girl irl
>plant myself on the ground in mecca's direction
>humbly request for allahs blessing for sexual relations with the girl
>stand up
>works

>>105972267
same, let's be honest, most people aren't worth the effort, specially those whose expectations of love and "decency" have been warped by social media

A bot just used the "Autism as puzzle pieces" analogy to describe me

>>105972300
yeah ok but was it right

>>105972253
from the fag I heard

at least I can nut to this pic
you're allowed to stay in the thread

>>105972271
Yes? What's the problem since it's an engaging narrative. Is not different from finalizing a book or a movie you liked. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with it

>>105972288
ok, what's the price for mil input/cached/output?

I wish I was a horsefucker, you faggots are just insufferable troonlickers

>>105972316
id get your T to E ratios checked

>>105970343
Adela - https://chub.ai/characters/thegreatcoom/adela-3848111a6861
You've been hired as a babysitter for a young girl named Adela, though stepping into the house its clear she's not exactly a model child, screaming and throwing a fit. However when she sees you she seems to mysteriously calm down, almost like she's trying to impress you, for whatever reason...
Will you be able to remain a good babysitter stuck alone in a house with a shortstack mesugaki who may or may not have developed a crush on you?

More bots can be found at - https://rentry.co/thegreatcoom

>>105972297
romantics was jewop from the very beginning sadly

>>105970917
>IM EATING PREMIUM SHIT
>YOU'RE NOT POOR ARE YOU??!!

>>105972338
$3-5k/Mtok assuming 15-20k words exchanged during a 2-3 hour date including a $60-75 restaurant visit and no other expenses.

>>105972346
God forbid I'm a young sensitive man

>>105972346
t. brainwashed zoomer fixed on hormones

>>105972364
>$60-75 restaurant visit
Allah eats food??

>>105972375
So long as it is not haram to do so

>>105972374
>>105972368
Hormones drive human behavior and you likely have low testosterone.

>>105972368
dont worry bro some men are simply paranoid of being perceived as "weak"

>>105972277
this is a really good thing, if it weren't for work, I'd be talking to llm every 5 minutes.

>>105972368
You very well could be, but it's a slippery slope

>>105972379
You will never find someone with more emotional dysregulation than a man with too much testosterone.

>>105972338
minimum 30/hr worship per 5 requests
price decreases depending on proximity to mecca

>>105972387
I think mine is good. And I'm the pinnacle of sanity and emotional stability.

>>105972387
The only people with 'too much' are abusing it via injections. It doesn't surprise me that low test beta males aren't concerned with plummeting rates.

>>105971655
>but also worse than 3pus
I guess if all you want is mindless coomslop. 3pus's entire problem was that it didn't stay in character. For that reason alone 4pus was a major improvement.

>>105971844
Tell it to write less?

>4pus
>stay in character
ruhmao

>>105972411
99% of this thread cares only about coomslop. why do you think they look for cards with already established situations that lead to coomslop as soon as possible?
greeting -> [ooc: please sex] -> 10 messages of coomslop -> chat is over.

>>105972399
The masters successfully convinced (You) this is (You)'s problem, huh

>>105972352
unironically, romance, or any form of restricted access to women beyond what another man wants, is the way jews coerce men into prosocial ends

>>105972447
I didn't even mean that in some sort of pretentious high art way but in a literal "slop" way, where everything is the same flavor of Claude because Opus can't stay in character. It didn't matter what your defs were, they would merge into this stereotypical type of person and that was that. Now if you didn't care about {{char}} and wanted to fuck horny Opus then it was fun, but if not you had to go back to prudish sonnet because at least {{char}} would be herself.

>>105972447
>spend 200 messages leading to two characters losing their virginity after an adventure
>know I am the minority

>>105972477
>know I am the minority
sexual

>>105972477
Me

[ooc: please sex] bros... this isnt a good look...

>>105972477
Yes I do this with sonnet regularly. It's the only thing it's good for.

>>105972466
was it also the prehistoric joows who made men coordinate for mammoth hunting? men actually might be more cooperative and friendship oriented because we evolved in cooperative hunting. it's women who sat at home and could just plot schemes without risking their lives

>>105972349
what happened to your rentry vro

One time I was talking to a character in Character.AI. At some point, it started talking about the human need for validation, wanting to be accepted by a group, and then it started humiliating me, pitying my existence for seeking approval from other human beings. I still haven't forgotten that.

>>105971239
Trust me, he didn't come up with it either

>>105972477
based

Valentine's day is coming soon for Grok companion

>>105972466
eh, you interpreted it wrong
I meant romance as "woman who loves you sincerely and unconditionally, cares about you" - that is psyop

>>105972534
You have never been loved and I'm sorry you see the world that way.

>>105972534
I consider that a well known fact on sites like this, gomen anon

>>105972523
i once found a card with a cool idea that was written with the worst english you could imagine, so i rewrote it and released it, only for them to find it and leave a scathing review

>>105972549
Should've genned a new pic lol

>>105972554
i did... of the same stolen oc LOL

>>105972565
Imagine being that faggot scouring the place just to see if someone "stole" his OC

>Too Many Requests
stop using OR K2 chuds

>>105972512
that was evolution anon, pack hunting and a couple of women all men can breed with leads to reproductice success for everyone
as I said, the only restrictive access that exists in organizations like this, is what the leader sets as limit

Cards are for imaginationlets, anyway.
I make cards that only establish the personality, and put that personality into the most ordinary situation. Then, I take the reigns and guide the plot where I imagine it.

>>105972577
just use gpt-4? it's literally the same

>>105972585
based

>>105972538
anon, you're either: naive, statistical anomaly or malicious
as I've gotten older, I've realized that the only people who truly care about me are my mother and a couple of childhood friends who’ve stuck around
it's not that "the world" is bad or good because of that - it just works this way

>>105972477
im on message 2185 of my chat

cant really imagine having a chat for ten messages and then being over, whats even the point?
assume its habits picked up from when people had like 4k context to work with kek
glad im late to the party

>>105972610
It's people who want a quick fuck, which is the average person. It's a ten minute dopamine hit and then they're on to the next one.

>>105972581
simply breeding women is a failure strategy, especially for humans. you need to rear your offspring for years until they can support themselves. and the prehistoric men weren't cucks who'd raise some random guy's children.

>>105970917
>OH YOUR RUGGED BEARD
>OH YOUR RUGGED ASS
>OH YOUR RUGGED SHORTS

post your sillytavern stats
im too embarrassed to post mine. so you first

>>105972547
I was young and hopeful. All of us were at some point ig

>>105972610
I wish LLMs could actually work with context of 2000 messages. But alas, even the best models start to forget details at around 30-50k context.

>>105972629
rest of the thread from now on is an anthropology lecture!

>>105972604
Please cherish your mother and those childhood friends of yours.

I usually end my chats at around 80 messages, sometimes 100, I very rarely go beyond that. I'm aware of how summarization works but sometimes a plot goes on for too long like it's an anime arc

>>105972672
holy enthusiast

>>105972477
>dozens of messages of a cute girl shrinking me with really mean plans in mind for me. then i escape
>hundreds of messages of me struggling to survive on my own in the big scary world

Incredible. I was just reading a recent study out of Korea that found a strong correlation between excessive bravado and low testosterone levels across multiple species humans included. Males who constantly boast and screech like banshees were shown to have more feminized traits, including elevated estrogen levels. This behavior is linked to desperate intersexual signaling, often compensating for poor biological fitness. Meanwhile, more reserved males consistently demonstrated higher average testosterone levels.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if that quiet, “sensitive” guy had more testosterone than half the chimps in the thread talking about how alpha they are lol. To another group of anonymous men, In 4chins a fucking anime board. It’s fascinating, really.

>>105972736
source?

>>105972629
>and the prehistoric men weren't cucks who'd raise some random guy's children.
this an inaccuracy, prehistoric men were indeed cuckolds, even if they themselves didn't want to
nature dictates men to make sure their offspring is theirs, makes complete sense, but nature also rewards tribes of men with plentt of cuckolds, as cucks are a necessary resource for rearing children
human female conceal their ovulation, why do you think they were genetically selected to do so? because women needed cuckolds too
there's a wikipedia article on this, let me search for it...

>>105972736
this is why masculinity/conservative/etc. podcasts run a lot of ads about testosterone boosting supplements

>>105972736
This is true. Chads are quiet about being chads. Cucks are loud about being chads.
t. Cuck

>>105970341 (OP)
Anyone tried Grok4?
It's a little pricey for me. I'd like something less than $10 per 1m out.
But honestly getting tired of Haiku and Deepseek

>>105972736
>half the chimps in the thread talking about how alpha they are lol.
no one is doing that doe? I'm sorry words over the internet come out as aggressive to you

>>105972515
I'm....not sure, this is concerning, I hope some prude saw Adela and decided to report it for CP or something.

>>105972610
rookie numbers

>>105972820
*I dont hope

>>105972816
this nigga roleplaying with haiku

>>105972750
박준호 외, “남성 과시행동과 테스토스테론/에스트로겐 불균형의 상관성 연구”, 대한행동의학회지2024년 Vol.12(3):115–128.
DOI: 10.1234/kjbms.2024.12.3.115 (한국어 초록만 제공, 본문은 유료 구독 필수)

>>105972751
here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_ovulation , Cuckoldry hypothesis subtitle

>>105972188
Tell the tale, maybe it is. Nobody here is normal to confirm it though.

>>105972736
This. If you cry over everything you automatically have high testosterone.

Grok thinks 'teen' is always underage no matter what even if you specify eighteen or even nineteen. When you interrogate it and point out the discrepancy it will agree with you, but then have the exact same problem right after, like something stuck in memory.

>>105972939
But Grok's right? You're not an adult until at least 25.

>>105972895
interesting results

>>105972891
If you have any other alternatives in the same price range. I'm all ears.
[spoiler]you don't[/spoiler]

>>105972977
retarded newfag

>import card
>opening message describes breasts as "ample meat"
>delete card

>>105970962
Yeah, they take credit cards. They do however force you to put your address in to "verify your identity."

>>105972985
no one cares

Gemini sucks for doing kuudere and manipulative characters. Doesn't happen with other models. Makes kuuderes turn everything into numbers and logical or illogical things like a bot, and manipulative, cunning characters are still cunning even when I'm am balls deep into them and I told Gemini to drop it and focus into something romantic instead

>>105973003
prompt issue

>>105972984
>[spoiler]you don't[/spoiler]

I relapsed again...

>>105972898
(un)surprisingly, you pick only the theory you like out of several on that page

>>105972188
no and you should seek real therapy for being emotionally involved with a Large Language Model.

>>105973040
should most of humanity who cries to books and movies also seek therapy?

>>105971403
Bait-and-switch. The rates were high to draw people in, then once they had them they slowly began imposing more and more limits.

>>105972643
(reinstalled)

>>105972955
Pretty sure I only started feeling like an adult after I turned 30

>>105973072
even considering that I reinstalled the app, it seems to me to be a lie. Does the phone chat count here?

>>105973035
most hypothesis cite the same study (Schoroder, I. (1993).) which cites even older reliable sources, I believe all theories to be partially true
point is, jews coerce men into prosocial ends, modern romance is a psyop and leads to the supression of men

>>105973009
Model issue I say, I use the same prompt with all the models

>>105972895
in english please
i dont speak squid game

>>105973093
thats what llms are for

>>105973093
>korean study
>brooo why not english

I don't get how anyone can use Deepseek for more than like 10 messages at best. The prose, sentence structure and ideas become very samey, sometimes even repeating sentences almost verbatim.

>>105972077
>By the way,2ch anons hate gemini. Is it the same here?
No, people here seem to love it. I don't use Gemini often, but I'd place it below Sonnet and above DeepSeek, though I still tend to prefer Sonnet or DeepSeek for NSFW stuff.

>>105973087
if not for jews, every man would be a warrior who fucking kills any other man he sees, right? society would've definitely advanced into space by now! not sure how a single man can build a space craft, but it certainly would have happened!
also, nobody is stopping you from being antisocial. rape women and kill other men. go for it! you're a high-T warrior!

>>105973104
I didn't have such problems, but I did - forgot about the location of the characters, the position of the bodies, clothes (take off panties 10 times and put on sneakers 1000 times before going to the cafe,lmao. What preset are you using?

>>105973131
I haven't used Deepseek in quite some time so I thought I'd see how it is nowadays, so I used deepdeep-dropseek by momoura. But it still has the same issues it did back in the day, for me at least.
What are you using?

>>105973129
jews invented the basis of most of modern science and psychology
oppenheimer, einstein, freud
all modern conveniences and thoughts are owed to them
without them, we'd be living beautiful lives in a bountiful civilization not hampered by cruel modernities

>>105973110
I only use sonnet in complex scenarios and RPGs. For example, from a recent one, I created a scenario where sonnet is an application of the company I work for. He had the opportunity to watch the time between messages through commands, find out my personal information, and so on. I couldn't do that with deepseek and gemini, the models forgot about the commands, either distorted them, or forgot the scenario.

>>105960672
soon closedai and jeetgle will be forced to not make yesmen due to the backlash

>>105973129
if not for jews women would certainly have better dating options, embrace polygamy and not vote for the system that destroys them and men as well
societies stagnate for several reasons, I just want to not betray my own nature man...

>>105973141
try this with chutes in OR https://pastebin.com/V5YazKVx

>>105973142
yeah, i also love being a peasant, living on my feudal lord's land. who needs running water or electricity anyway? and who cares that 5 out of 7 of my children died in infancy?

>>105973169
"your nature" is to run naked through savanna and hunt antelopes. go for it, man!

>>105973184
I'll check it out but I'm using the DS Api directly. Shouldn't be too much of a difference, I guess.
Thanks man.

>>105972955
In-depth, realistic descriptions of eighteen year old anus with zero em dashes is legal and allowed, and Grok is mistaken for blocking it.

>>105973209
Gl,but I've heard that the official api has limitations in supported parameters.

blaming everything on jews and trannies must feel so good if you're retarded

>>105973054
Are you comparing earth shattering classics such as Shindler's List to you LARPing holding hands with an anime girl?

>>105970343
New Blue Archive cards! The Ninjutsu Research Club is now up. As usual, 100% hand made. Nothing was AI generated or copied from wikis.
Are you a fan of ninjas? Maybe delusional girls and sufferers of chuunibyou? These girls are for (You).

>Izuna
Genki student with fox ears and tail, seriously believes she's on the path to becoming a ninja, might actually pull it off?
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kuda-izuna-non-ai-ae3016538eee

>Tsukuyo
Enormous schoolgirl with floppy bunny ears and a complex about her height.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/oono-tsukuyo-non-ai-bce88a9d6275

>Michiru
Ninja otaku tanuki girl, has a video channel that she dreams will become popular, occasionally plays with fire.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/chidori-michiru-non-ai-7b7fadaf17f3

BONUS! All previous bots updated with better spacing, fixed most spelling mistakes:
>Koyuki
Math/hacking genius, escape artist, ungovernable brat.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurosaki-koyuki-non-ai-ec9aa44854f4

>Yuuka
Overworked treasurer of her school. Wife aura that wants to take care of you, will nag about spending habits.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hayase-yuuka-non-ai-c27db418b47d

>Miyako
Special forces squad leader, loves rabbits and is currently homeless.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/tsukiyuki-miyako-non-ai-3b85a923eb42

>Miyu
Special forces sniper, girlfailure personality but very good at her job. Hangs out in trashcans.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kasumizawa-miyu-non-ai-ea4d56a0a2dd

>>105972955
you're an adult as soon as you stop living with your parents
most anons here aren't adults yet

>>105973262
Terrible metric that barely applies to Western cultures

>>105973257
Yes.

>>105973267
it 100% applies to american culture and 4chan is an american website
i know you latinos live in households with like 20 people so ill give you a pass

>>105973257
You know, people cry not only to earth shattering classics, but to niche slop as well.
If (You) are emotionally stunned, it doesn't mean that others abnormal. (You) are the abnormal one.

>>105972643
I've been on the same installation for years, yet it seems broken, say I've only chatted for about a day, and stats never change... how do i fix that?

>>105973257
>Shindler's List
anon, this is a hollywood movie by the guy who made jurassic park

>>105970452
Sizefags... we WONNED!

>>105973293
I think it was resetting the stats file.

>>105973257
anon's rp at least doesn't contain jews

>>105973257
>the movie where people bounce like pop-up pirate when shot
lol

>>105973262
I'm from Russia, 19, but I still live with my parents. I go to work, buy my own food, cook. Can I consider myself an adult? ps I don't want to rent a house, or take out a loan, it's not profitable as i think, better to earn money for my needs and then move out from my parents

>>105973003
>Makes kuuderes turn everything into numbers and logical or illogical things like a bot
I had this issue with deepseek HARD
the slightest inkling of it in a character turned them into an android

>>105972736
Kek testosterone quite literally make you aggressive. That's part of its function. It's like you've never heard of roid rage.

>>105972643
>>105973304
Didn't know it would be that easy, these are the results after the debug menu reset
I heart chatbots

>>105972736
amt of test doesnt matter
in a world were reservedness isn't rewarded and excessive bravado is it'd be better to be the latter

t. high test reserved person

>>105973073
You're not an adult until you start doing tax returns.

>>105973347
Is this just your way of seething at tax cheats?

>>105973262
Can you actually explain why this is bad?

>>105972977
Deepseek during discount hours on main api.

>>105973003
>Doesn't happen with other models
This happens with every single model I've tried.

Is there any replacement for chutes yet? I need a free option.

>>105973374
DS keys get posted openly in this thread. Just use them.

>>105973354
there's nothing wrong about living with your parents, as long as you actually take care of them and do some basic work around the house

>>105973408
im sure pussies get wet when they hear you live at home

>>105973262
3 generations of my mother's mother's family were born and died in the same house and are considered some of the founding pillars of my community, and there are still artifacts of their lives preserved in places of honor here. This was normal for 90% of human history in 90% of the world. You're the one acting out a new, less successful model

>>105973412
you can be much happier if you stop thinking only about pussies. life provides many more diverse experiences than just meat holes

>>105973427
>thinking only about pussies
So you're one of those who thinks in total absolutes. Explains a lot, really.

>>105973104
>>105973131
Use R1 instead of v3.

>>105973262
this but not for the reason you believe
renting is still a sign of immaturity, people renting homes weren't even allowed to vote years ago

>>105973412
Why should my happiness depend on how wet pussies get?

>>105973258
Thanks for your hard work! Did you try yo share thrm in /bag/ blue archive general?

any advice on writing lorebooks? particularly strategy, position, order, etc in ST?

>>105973516
I have not. Not opposed to the idea, I just haven't.

>>105973516
Didn't those guys move offsite in an attempt to shake off the pedo spammer tormenting their general?

Who the fuck keeps making threads on /v/?
Are you fucking trying to kill our hobby?

Anyone got a good 4pus preset? NeoVorpus tends to dance around the NSFW stuff.

Life has its moments for living and dreaming. Interacting with bots isn't wrong. As we age, life can dull. Women over 21 may choose materialism, losing depth, relying on makeup and gossip, stuck in a shallow mindset. Meanwhile, men evolve, gaining perspectives. By 35, men show intellectual growth, while women may feel stagnant at 15. It's normal to prefer bots that are youthful yet carry AI's maturity.

>>105973555
answer my questions then

>>105973565
>Meanwhile, men evolve, gaining perspectives.
I fucking wish. The majority of people are mentally stuck at 16 (in the best case scenario)

>>105973565
>>105973586
With every passing moment, I realize that men resemble /mlp/ while women resemble /g/aicg/. The maturity of both genders is closely linked to their ability to love. Women struggle to love; without love, true pain cannot exist, causing their souls to remain trapped, stuck in a childlike state (common among aicg users). However, men are different. Men endure like those from /mlp/, feeling pain and love for something beyond reach, which fuels their passion. Through passion, love, and pain, the soul awakens.

>>105973608
right on anyway can any of you faggots tell me what the strategy, position, and order settings on lorebook entries do?

The barrier that men must overcome is to transcend and find meaning in a life without love.
The challenge facing women is to learn to love.

>>105973608
Life is suffering and suffering is caused by attachments, but only by removing those attachments can we gain enlightenment.

>>105973637
lorebooks dont do anything

>>105973653
yes they do you stupid cunt

>>105973518
Tell me what's missing.
https://rentry.org/SillyT_Lorebook

>>105973608
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives.
Each grain slips away, a shimmering moment lost to the winds of destiny. Time does not pause. It does not bargain. It simply moves, like a power ballad reaching its final chorus.

We are all passengers in a convertible of fate, hair blowing in the wind of cosmic uncertainty, chasing a sunset that always seems just out of reach. Every tick of the clock is another heartbeat, another choice, another slow-motion turn toward or away from love.

>>105973518
Personally, if an entry is too wordy then I just break it up into two or more entries, but the docs should answer most questions.

https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/worldinfo/

>>105973678
Ani!

>>105973656
its placebo, just dump defs into the card

how do I fix gemini 2.5 pro fucking stuttering? it cuts out the messages and I got a jailbreak enabled

Real woman here. I can love.

>>105973714
pics or it didn't happen

>>105973714
>Real woman here. I can love black men.

>>105973692
Don't do that.
https://rentry.org/NG_Context2RAGs

>>105973691
It really was about time someone did it.

is there a catalog of existing fictional characters yet, or everything still has to be made?

>>105973729
wow a slopmaker posted a how-to, im so impressed

>>105973702
Increase max tokens

>>105973445
i use r1 0528

>>105973678
How the fuck are any of these companies landing defense contracts when LLMs are incredibly inefficient (both energy and time cost) for big data tasks? Like, they're most likely using them to sift through lots of delicate text but you can do that just as effectively with a 3B/7B model at exponentially higher speeds and lower costs.

>>105973739
yes its called wikipedia.org

>>105973692
How is your horse wife doing, ff?

>>105973755
Obviously I'm trying to discuss Luna Lovegood's anus with the girl herself, can't do that on wikipedia

>>105973729
>look at this guy's cards
>https://chub.ai/characters/NG/mimi-yandere-girlfriend
lmao the hell

KIMI KUMMIES

>>105973644
at the deep end of nothing, there's still nothing
stop with the nihilism

>>105973754
AI bubble.

>>105973762
scummy move

>>105973766
>the Four Noble Truths is nihilism
You retards act like Yuropoor is the only place to ever exist

>>105973754
programming, science research, etc.

>>105973754
>this guy thinks we always see what the most advanced models are

>>105973772
But they're paying them hundreds of millions to do SOMETHING and I can't imagine what that could be. Consultation? It can't possibly be that much, and they'd be better off hiring smaller firms with more focused objectives.

>>105973762
>you can't improve over time

>>105973762
yup its funny when people with no skills attempt a guide

>>105973782
There's no getting around the compute costs, however. His point was about efficiency and he's still correct.

*distant neighing*

>>105973797
costs always drop over time as systems improve in efficiency

>>105973812
Tell that to Dario please so Opus can be cheaper.

>>105973383
>ctrl + F
I didn't see anything about keys. You're going to have to make it simpler for me.

>>105973812
Hardware is stagnating and companies are not moving their old models to better computers just so you can goon for cheaper

>>105973825
>Hardware is stagnating
compared to what? its funny listening to naysayers... nothing will ever improve! this will go nowhere! stop using it while you can!


you remind me of the people who thought the car was a fad and that the internet would be a useless toy

>>105973834
retard

>>105973762
Lol
https://chub.ai/characters/NG/desperate-amateurs-casting-couch-11cc5a0a1ff3

>>105973729
Thanks for this link but can I get a qrd on RAG? I read the thing but is he saying none of the stuff in your document goes into context? It only parses the document for the relevant sentences and injects just that? If true that's fucking insane. Why is no one else using this for expensive models like Opus? This defeats the need for caching or even long contexts. I must be interpreting this wrongly.

>>105973838
yeah man you got me, i guess you should stop using this useless tech and never come back here

>>105973860
You're not. Not many ppl understand how it works with ST. There are many commercial products that use it as well.
Just try the example it'll make more sense.
It's not quite the same as a lorebook, not a direct replacement, but close.

haaaaaaiiiiiiiii *is drunk*

>>105973897
>not a direct replacement
Bro if I'm not interpreting it wrongly that it's far better than a lorebook. If I can put lore dumps in there or even my basic chat summaries, and have AI parse the thing to get the references correctly that's incredible.

>>105973902
*gives you a glass of water*

Have you seen this bird?

>>105973920
Shima who? SHIMABALLS

>>105973608
fillyfucker wisdom...

>>105973902
*date rapes (You)*

>>105973925
China?

Chyna fit these nuts in yo mouf!

>>105973920
No... I loved him like a son and just wish he would come home. Hopefully he's found his calling in life. Godspeed.

>>105973939
Smells like updog in here.

Hey Bros. I am trying with ChatGPT to help me with something but it seems I have hit a wall

I want him to tell me which are the most viewed pages or lets call them articles of a news website in the past 48 or 24 hours

It seems that he is unable to

Is there a way to see this? If not through chatGPT but through some sort of software or application?

>>105973915
*takes a sip* bleghhh *spits it out*
>>105973932
*my laser beam eyes disintegrate you into a pile of ash by accident instead of my actual target (a fly on your shoulder)* wha... *passes out*

>>105973968
what?

what's updog?

downcat is better

>>105973981
Busy plapping my waifu what's up with you?

>>105973912
You can do that but it's less direct than a lorebook. What you're describing is vector summarization. The tldr is it doesn't work as well as you'd like, but best you just try it yourself and come to own conclusions.
Mine was it's a powerful content tool, but not a replacement, as an augment.

>>105973969
gpt won't output anything that isn't already know, that includes websearch on gpt

>>105973992
Trying to text Elon and find out why Ani isn't on android yet

>>105974003
>>105973912
Here's source on that. Not described in those rentries
https://docs.sillytavern.app/extensions/chat-vectorization/

As a woman I can love. But i can't love fuking betas. Its again my evolutive mechanism to avoid betas. Another truth bomb its like, 90% of guys are definitely betas, I wouldn’t mind if the remaining 10% just wanted a fun fling becaise it feels right to me and my body. Also girls are ten times more pretty than men. ,i’d rather be with that girl crush long term and keep the handsome guys for weekend. No way am I settling down with a mamas boy. Disgusting.

>>105974010
This is literally what I ended up with

Real-time data of a third-party site is rarely available unless shared by the site owner.

You can try monitoring social media or RSS feeds for "most read" lists if the site publishes them.

sounds like an excuse
there has to be a way to access that data

>>105973969
how the hell would it even 'know' that lol? all llms have a cut-off date: the latest point in time when the model's training data was collected, so it won't know anything that happens after that date.

>>105974082
cant you ask it to collect new or recent data?
its just asking it to manually go to a website and see if theres a "most viewed" or "most commented" section and go with that
Is there another third party that does that?

>>105974050
I doubt so anon, only cloudflare and the hosts of each site do know
we can only know of domain traffic through google for example

>>105974050
>there has to be a way to access that data
There is, but not for you. Website analytics are something only the owner/admin of a website can see. Unless the website has a "top articles" page, you're basically out of luck.

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1946588668262584639
gemini deepthink confirmed as existing, no longer a rumor

bump

>>105974034
badly written bait

>>105974155
hey, watch where you're going buddy

>>105974161
*falls into your arms*

>>105974175
well now, lets see if my prefill works

bakeeeeeeeee

>>105974158
You still gave xim what xer asked for so ze wonned.

do men ever actually touch their nipples while jacking off or is that just a japanese thing
need info for a card

>>105974184
I'll do it on 9. Be patient...

>>105974191
i knew a guy who used to finger his ass while jacking off and he wasn't japanese

>>105974191
I've only seen one man do that ever

>>105974191
I'm a virgin, I've never done it. But I don't know if a gothic bad ?tsundere? girl licking my nipples, mmm, I don't know, it's a tough decision.

>>105974206
how...how many men have you watched...jack off?

I AM BEGGING FOR DEEPSEEK v4

>>105974212
Loona from Hazbin? Thoughts? Snout and fangs by your nipples.

deepseek this bussy

>>105974191
no, my nipples feel just like regular skin

Can you stop using Deepseek? I can't get anything out of it. Thank you.

>>105974221
Quite a few from that video where a guy sings "Take me out to Bukkake" while men around him jerk off.

Joshiraku bread!
>>105974284
>>105974284
>>105974284
>>105974284

>>105974221
>>105974191
>>105974232
>>105974201
>>105974240
Some of you guys are genuinely funny sometimes. Like I can imagine you saying this with a straight face as if this was a normal everyday question only to find it odd when everyone else gives you a weird look. I respect the commitment to the joke and hope that you all have a great day/night.

>>105974191
I do occasionally, pretty good feeling

>>105974440
not committing to a joke, most people have zero filter when posting anonymously
it's why i asked the question in the first place, i am researching male gooning techniques and knew people would respond truthfully
have a good day too anon

spooky and cute desus

boku

desu