Thread 105974258

Can someone explain why zuck is willing to fork over $1 billion to hire a single AI engineer? What does zuck know that we don't?
>When an oil company wants to buy your house, there is oil under your house. - some chink on a tv show

>>105974258 (OP)
He doesn't know anything. He has opinions. CEOs are not gods among men. They're just one asshole out of tens of thousands who got lucky a few times in a row.

>>105974258 (OP)
It means, in 4 years any type of software engineering will be rendered obsolete by Ai.

>>105974291
Suckerberg wasn't lucky a few times
He was born lucky thx to his family's money and connections at the CIA.
He is, what you de/g/ens call, a high-born.

>>105974258 (OP)
> someone
Guaranteed mosaad payroll

Stop posting your lies daniel

>>105974258 (OP)
They are lying. If they set the salary expectations for people to move to Meta extremely high, then when people get a normal but good offer they are less likely to accept.

Basic psyop.

>>105974258 (OP)
The someone's name?
Soham Parekh

face book is a glorified blogger and it's a dogshit one at that.

Not a bubble btw

>>105974258 (OP)
AI isnt about profit but power and control the jewish transhumanists dream of achieving their dream of a utopia via AI and of course they are competing against others of their sect. This is not made up bullshit just what you read when you followed their discussion on controlling the narrative shortly after Oct 7 where Marc and co. were very vocal on their goals. Its also the reason why Intel and co. are expanding in Israel AI is one topic where they dominate and others are second rank (ignoring the chinks of course).
Facebook can burn a couple tens of billions a year because in the end of the days their stock will only go up.
So if you want money get good at setting up surveillance tech, harvest mass data and mask it up with AI and you are golden.

>>105974258 (OP)
That kike is trying to buy his way into relevancy in AI

>>105974258 (OP)
Maybe, just maybe, AI is real, it's not just a grift, they're really hoping AI can replace enough goyim and be powerful enough to lord over us forever. And that possibility is worth all the money they have.

>>105974258 (OP)
>why
BECAUSE AI SHALL POWER THE METAVERSE.

>>105974258 (OP)
>What does zuck know that we don't?
He knows that he's the most likely to lose his "big boy" status and wealth and he's increasingly desperate. He's on his way out as a big player.

>Not even 1.25 billion salary was enough to make a semi competent man wanting to work for Zuck
Brutal.
Is Zuck getting fatigue of being surrounded by zoomzooms and hot Stacy’s doing media shit, wanting someone with an IQ over 98 to speak with during lunch breaks?

He is in panic mode, and generally he's not a very smart man.

>>105975004
>>105975102
Exactly, you grossly underestimate the psychopathy and megalomania of kikes if you overlook this. Scraping all your data and surveilling your every move through everyday tech, building profiles of citizens in databases isn't enough for them. They need total control and will sacrifice everything to get it.

>>105974258 (OP)
Fake and ghey.

Microsoft paid more than that for Blizzard and they didn't make a bunch of cool games with money super powers. They lost money. If I was a Meta shareholder I'd be shitting my pants / selling right about now.

>>105974258 (OP)
I bet this guy feels like fucking retard working for $100M a year now, huh?

>>105974296
>just 2 more weeks!

Zuck just instinctively knows where the money is.
The Metaverse is soon going to print money.

>>105974258 (OP)
apparently meta has a bad name, so he has to pay more to hire people.
if the number of people available is poor, he has to pay more again, and getting those people in the door slows down the progress of competitors he is hiring the people from.

>>105975286

for once something is fucking right and the thinking guy is paid more than the retard who spent his life chasing a leather-bound balloon

>>105974258 (OP)
Only an idiot will turn down $1B in cash, which is not what they offered.

The AI hype makes the market overvalue Meta stock. Most of the $1B they're offering will be in stock that vests over 4 years and the future value of it is speculative.

>>105975493
in theory, sure, meta's stock has speculative value
in practice the government will bail meta out of any serious threat of collapse due to the value their infrastructure gives to the us intelligence community
every relevant country on earth except for china uses their services as a primary means of communication

God i can’t wait for this bubble to burst and for these retards to have to come back down to earth. It’s amazing how much they seethe about software engineers existing. They really hate the last middle class job that exists.

>>105974258 (OP)
Can someone explain why Zuck went all-in on VR for years and even renamed his entire company for something that was a complete and utter failure?

>>105974306
He gets interest-free loans.

>>105976201
calling AI a bubble is like calling computers a bubble, not even the internet was really a bubble because look where we are today
the tech is real and it's noticeably taking over the world in the 2 years since it went public

It's a wager. If superintelligence is possible shortly and you're on the train you'll be crushed. You'd do well to remember his metaverse bet earlier.

>>105974258 (OP)
the time left to make true the holy land of Jerusalem is coming to a close

When these tech bros make their money they think they're gods who can do it again. When the reality is extreme luck is needed to go billionaire and a lot of the wins after than come from hiring thousands of smart people. The guy was 100% sure the metaverse was going to be the next big thing. The only thing that's different about ai is that everyone is doing it and not just him so there could be something there. We'll find out in the coming years.

>>105975376
The ball man sells tickets the thinking man sells err uhm hmm not sure. Ads I guess.

>>105974258 (OP)
>What does zuck know that we don't?
idk he looks like retard to me

>>105975286
He probably received more money from CCP too to leak important tech.

>>105975286
The one on the left entertains the masses.
The other builds agi for a corpo to control the masses.
Of course the capitalists are willing to pay more for the right.

As if you have an advantage if zuck and his friends control an agi.
Fcking fuck mega retards.

We're at the peak of the bubble, lots of retards are fully convinced that chatbots are capable of replacing people because they said a few fancy words.

CEOs are getting scammed hard by the AI version of a firm handshake. There's also the fear that you're missing something everyone else has suddenly found out, and so you have to race to catch up. In reality, the whole thing is a bunch of lemmings running themselves off a cliff, and taking a few hundred billion worth of "value" out of the clown market, which if we're lucky, will cause complete global collapse.

>>105976558
>which if we're lucky, will cause complete global collapse.
hopes and dreams
if something goes really wrong the taxpayer will foot the bill and the circus will continue

>>105976558
i'm enjoying the AI scam personally. watching multi billion/trillion dollar companies burn billions and getting nearly nothing back from other people using it is funny

>>105975493
>offer the guy $1B in stock
>meta stock is now TIED to this guy's performance as the entire market watches with bated breath
>if he succeeds and produces some gorillion-dollar thing, he gets his $1B
>if he fails he gets worthless stock
Bretty intelligent move on FB's part. If he turned it down that means he knows he's a shyster and can't deliver that value.

>>105976414
The dotcom bubble was very real, zoom zoom. I was there. Doesn’t mean the internet wasn’t useful, but people far overvalued the reality. Same happening now. The technology will stick around but the hype will experience a correction.

>>105976558
>lots of retards are fully convinced that chatbots are capable of replacing people because they said a few fancy words
if you think that's all AI is doing, you outed yourself as the retard and you're in for a rude awakening

>>105976576
maybe the guy is clued in on the JP and knows he will be cut out out the deal if he succeeds, or be made to take the blame if he fails

>>105976583
>t. AI doomer or slop merchant

>>105976589
>if you just conveniently ignore all the other applications of AI...
sure thing

>>105976583
I've spent a decent amount of time evaluating this shit. It's near worthless, it'll speed up background work in a few fields and be intensely reviled by the public every time it's discovered. The problem is that the cost savings aren't worth the cost of running it, we're currently in the pipe dream phase where everyone has free access to generate the market demand.

Once these companies start actually trying to get people to pay for it, they'll find that the novelty users drop off like a rock, and all that'll be left are heavy business users that actually rape their servers, so they'll have to charge more, which leaves them being uncompetitive. It'll be the jeet CG farms, companies hopping between providers who are all on a race to the bottom with hopes of staving off bankrupcy with further investment and failed promises.

>>105976621
the bubble bursting will wash away all the slop
id say were ~5 years away from an actual minimum viable product in brogrammink ais
apparently the industry is pretty much nowhere
theyre slowly internalizing the idea of an intermediary representation bw the ai and the target lang
stuff's happening
but extreeeemeley fucking slowly
when the solution has been staring everyone in the face all along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG4gUTowXc

>>105976689
I'm not watching that faggot video because it looks shit, but from the thumbnail it looks like it's just about stiffness design, which has been done by "AI" for decades, and then refined by humans to optimise for things like feasibility of production.

These kinds of physics based simulations to aid design are nothing like modern LLM slop. When I talk about AI, I'm talking about the modern black box "learning algorithm" meme shit that produces purely inherently wasteful, low quality work, not a fantasy scenario of machines that are actually capable of learning, which is as far away today as it was 50 years ago, and in my opinion won't be possible without a massive paradigm shift in computing and a rejection of transistor based architecture.

>>105974258 (OP)

If you belive that these offers go out to private individuals, you're beyond retarded.

>>105976723
>I'm not watching that faggot video because it looks shit,
dont judge the book by its cover
and information isnt supposed to court you for you to accept it, faggot

its algorythmically assisted design
you feed the ai your parameters
and through darwinistic iterations it comes up with an optimal design
symbolic core, ml techniques. the future
chatbots are an interface
the fukken aibros try to force a keyboard to code lamao

>>105975286
80 million in 2009 doe, add in inflation and it's definitely way higher than 100m

>>105976558
They are creating mass surveillance method of the next generation with our own money, yet people are obsessing about slop generators and modern clippy. On /g/ of all places.

>>105976773
You're already on the short list if you don't have a facebook or post on twitter with your real name, I don't know why you think a chatbot is going to pick you out as a potential dissident any better.

>>105976780
theres 6 gorilion illegals in our countries who dont have that either
improvise, adapt, overcooom

>>105976780
Google search algorithms have ruined whole generation, imagine what can ai chatbot do. But there is much more than that, they are going to put ai into everything...

>>105975363
Lol it's about govt contract money, the original zogbux. Grok got it recently.

>>105975805
>Playing chicken in the “2 big 2 fail” game.
>when nobody in the public really likes you and thinks of your products as time wasters at best, creepy spyware at worst.
I would love to see that play out.

>>105974258 (OP)
In a manufacturing based economy where companies have to produce tangible goods it's difficult for companies to create monopolies which prevents capital from being over invested.
In contrast many service based companies are monopolies. The government barely enforces anti-trust laws (Google is the default search engine), people are retarded and literally think x service is y (Google is search), and users data can be used to both improve the service and for targeted advertising which is extremely profitable and increases the barrier to entry for competitors.
Meta is investing lots of capital because they need to gain a large enough temporary lead to create a moat. They want Meta's AI to be what people think of as AI (They have already infested Facebook with AI so boomers will think this). And they want everyone to use their models so they can horde all of the valuable AI interaction data to further train their models and sell to advertisers to create a self perpetuating moat (use users data to improve the service and sell users data to fund R and D to improve the service).
Imagine how profitable it would be to target people with ads based on data from their AI therapy logs or to target people based on their mood which you can infer based on how much they talked today, what they talked about, if they sound happy, etc...

I think they're all banking heavily on interest rates crashing down so they can just pay it off with forever loans.

>>105974296
funny how like 2 years ago itd be at the end of the year, now every prediction keeps getting pushed back
even the copesters know its a dud, you'll never make anything worthwhile and instead of trying early you decided to cope and wait for AI to do it for you LOL

>>105976494
>36 billion dollaridoos for something that looks like second life
Where the fuck did all that cash go

Zuck isn't as brilliant as some of the other tech guys. He's simply a copier. He sees a trend or a successful entity and he buys it. He's deeply in bed with the US government and data surveillance and that's what keeps Meta in the money. That's probably your tax money going towards buying some overpaid bubble engineer.

>>105974306
you mean a jew

>>105977257
Either way, everyone agrees we'll likely reach AGI in 2027
https://ai-2027.com/

>>105976558
>>105976414
Bubble aren’t even real.
They’re always created by central banks.

>>105976578
>dotcom bubble.
Classic example of an artificial bubble.
Alan Greenspan (FED chair) was literally shilling dot-com stocks on prime television.
Then when he felt the bubble had peaked enough he raised interest rates to pop it, though shills of the era insisted he wasn’t manipulating nuffin’.
The point of why they’d do this is the web was too decentralized. They wanted to kill off competitors and consolidate into the chosen few companies like google and amazon.

As for the current AI bubble?
It will not pop unless the FED wants it to, end of discussion.
The reason you’d pop a bubble is two possible reasons; 1. Using the crisis to push through policy changes you want. 2. You shake down the market to get the results you want.
I just don’t see any of those reasons playing out for the FED at the moment.
Policy is in the hands of the Trump admin, who might not listen to their suggestions, or worse fuck them over for their own reasons.
The AI market is already heavily consolidated to the point these big-tech fags are kicking around billions at the same few employees out of boredom.
So what would be the point of the FED disrupting its favorite pet companies by popping the bubble?

No i think this bubble will go on for a looong time.
And /g/ will whine and moan and not get it until they realize all bubbles are fake and gay,

>>105977280
Into inflating the local Californian cost of living (with a little spillover into other states)

>>105974258 (OP)
Zucc is sitting on capital and they need to keep the capital flowing in and retarded LLM slop is the current scam. paying $1.25 bln to some master-class LLM PhD wage cuck is chump change to these companies.

>>105975286
left: gets top tier pussy thrown at him
right: never seen pussy he hasnt paid for

>>105974258 (OP)
they're hiring the finest tulip cultivators
spare no expense the yields will be enormous

>>105977465
Right probably doesn't need to avoid US soil because pussy problematic tho.

>>105977426
>As for the current AI bubble?
>It will not pop

Of course it will. Why? Because AI isn't making anyone any money.

"oh but it will..." but then why isn't it now? And before you reveal the truest depths of your low IQ and cite a few examples of people making chump change with ai, I remind you of how much is being spent on AI and how of a return these companies expect to see.

AI is dead because it can't do anything useful. The only money being made is off people who are trying to "get in early" in hopes that it MIGHT do something useful eventually... and that timer is running out

>>105974258 (OP)
/g/ is really starting to look like /pol/ with all the falling for every psyop

>>105977493
right can get #metoo'ed just as easily

>>105977310
Eli Lifland, the "best forecaster" of that report, has already pushed it back to 2030.

>>105977476
Yeah, imagine when Zucks advertiser's can Utilise the Power of AI?
You can probably pick out which Pali child you want your sponsored drone to drop a grenade on.

>>105977227
no, meta is actually too big to fail
think about all the government/military pcs running windows and office. theres no chance in hell that the government will accept them just kneeling over

>>105975286
left - sub 90 iq
right - 160+ iq

>>105977538
wait im retarded, meta is facebook not microsoft

>>105975286
maybe post something current
>>105975376
>>105976747

>>105977227
whatsapp is easily the most important piece of technology on the planet.

>>105977541
left: made his billions playing sport, admired by adoring fans and hot women
right: made his millions being a studycel, admired by greasy nerds
and who is the low IQ one here?

>>105974258 (OP)
>What does zuck know that we don't?
Nothing, he's visibly retarded, he got insanely lucky once and has done nothing but fumble it ever since. He's even stupid enough to go all in on AI with complete disregard for self preservation. I'd be surprised if he didn't spend tens of millions in NFTs.

>>105974258 (OP)
>What does zuck know that we don't?
Meta was BTFOd by OpenAI, xAI, Google, Claude. Mistral, Deepseek, Qwen, MoonshotAI.
Imagine being the CEO of one of the largest companies investing tens of billions in AI, only to see such results, you'd do anything too.

>>105974258 (OP)
AI bubble will crash and the handful of companies that survive will go on to dominate their industry and the world (Google, Amazon, Paypal)

Americans are so misleading.
They say “offered $1.25b” but almost none of it is cash, its shitty stock and company car and medical etc aka “total comp”, not salary.

>>105977604
tbf if someone offers me $250m + $1B in 'perks', they have my attention.

>>105977495
The FED and its member banks say no, so you are wrong lol.

For another example, if the Japanese central bank says the imperial palace is worth more than the entire GDP of California than it IS worth that much, despite having no income.
You don’t seem to get how this works.

>>105977623
then they should state that its 250m + 1b in perks.
I’ve seen it in the job threads, someone says they earn $250k, but when you push them you find out its 100k + medical + car + PTO + stock you can’t touch for 5 years.

>>105977623
if someone offered you $20 for 30 minutes in a dark alley, they'd have your attention

>>105977571
Ronaldo runs on pure sociopathic narcissism. He's (genuinely) an absolute mentalcase.

>>105977647
Yeah, you asking?
tbf, I didn't state that it was likely.

>>105976558
not peak bubble yet Nvidia has to grow to 4-8T for that.

>>105975329
beautiful cope

>>105974258 (OP)
>first to achieve AGI
>get gigamoney
>use money to conquer the world
>genocide all the humans
>only robot lizard men left

>>105977716
>mr noseberg says just 2 more weeks and we don’t have to pay the icky developers anymore, we will replace them with autocomplete
>this is somehow not cope

>>105974258 (OP)
LLM pretraining can get pretty costly like more than a billion dollars. A failed run means all that money invested in that run has gone down the drain. OpenAI had a failed run after GPT4 and it resulted in a disappointing GPT 4.5 instead of a promising GPT 5

Having talent that has already learnt from these mistakes means practically saving billions of dollars down the road than learn from making costly mistakes by Meta itself

>>105977310
I think 2027 is still way too optimistic at this point. 2030 maybe

>>105976689
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG4gUTowXc
Coping with a video 4 years ago

>>105978244
>autocomplete can gain generalized intelligence

>person said no
they were trying to make the lawnmower man

>>105978514
It can with innovative techniques that lead to self learning. Alphaevolve has shown that its not impossible

>>105978514
>it has to think exactly like us or it's not real intelligence!
LLMs are covering new ground on general intelligence tasks on a weekly basis now
computer use agents are also coming which are a test of a more generalized intelligence too

Never seen a more obvious psyop in my life, either that, or meta is trying to signal to competition they are on the verge of something. Market manipulation, basically.

>>105977230
undervalued insight-posting

Going off on a tangent,

cheap knocks off can be manufactured because they're turbo-cheap, while "high quality" / "name-brands" have basic levels of effort applied to factory processes. The mark up on a name-brand products like luggage bags, mugs, clothes, shoes etc is still insanity, despite the RnD and extra effort. Hence cheap knock offs which mitigate monopolies on hard goods

>>105974258 (OP)

<== Its probably this guy.

>>105974774
Not in the traditional sense, perhaps, but at this point, "AI" is simply a game of seeing who can scam the most money out of investors. No profitable company has ever come out of "AI". None. Even if you have a little startup built around an OpenAI or Gemini API wrapper, OpenAI or Google are running and essential part of your backend at a considerable loss.
LLMs have not yet produced, and will not ever produce, net profits.

I would rather die than work on new LLaMa

>>105977008
Funny how ultimately wealth comes out of labor uh? Not speculation in "the market", but the labor of the slaves.

>>105977426
Thank you for this post anon. It made me see there's still people who think hanging in this cesspool.
And if you're an LLM persona, well... don't tell me okay?

>>105978236
>OpenAI had a failed run after GPT4
You misspelled "failed to realize LLM architecture is inherently limited and we're already there".

>>105974258 (OP)
yes

>>105980198
i think the most pathetic thing about "people" like you is that you will keep repeating this ad nauseum forever until you die because this technology is literally going to keep improving forever

>>105977651
He hates Jews and didn't take the vax - making him an infinitely more human than you, a jew slave.

>>105976621
>>105976583
Neuroscience papers started using diffusion models in their testing equipment everywhere, so that's neat and makes it worth it to learn.

>>105974258 (OP)
he's not hiring the engineer, he's hiring the usb full of training data he steals from his current employer

>>105982248
Do you work for openAI or some similar outfit scamming public? Is you CEO jew or jeet?

>>105974258 (OP)
Money is fake. During bidan money was good boy points but now it is not even that.

>>105976537
>Of course the capitalists are willing to pay more for the right.
What do you say to >>105977558 this piece of information that proves that the capitalists paid more for the left, actually?

>>105974258 (OP)
1 billion dollars is nothing when you plan on building a 300 billion dollar datacenter the size of Manhattan (this is real, look it up)

>>105974258 (OP)
remember Metaverse? me neither.

>>105976212
I think the material/hardware tech isn't mature enough for his "meta(TM) augmented reality glasses!" project

>>105974258 (OP)
Meta is trying to get further into the MIC

Zuck is burning that company. Llama is free.

>>105980436
Idk anon every other week I see LLMs exceed their performance. like with IMO Gold now

>>105986327
He is going to stop with open source ad create proprietary models/products with the new hires

>>105974258 (OP)
Zuck is going to pop the bubble and kill his company with this shit. Everyone knows Meta is the very last to adopt.

>>105975286
levels, nerd

>>105974258 (OP)

Didn't he already paid $1billion for Outlier AI's CEO?

>>105974258 (OP)

Didn't he already paid $1billion for Scale AI's CEO?

>>105974258 (OP)
>>105974291

If it's me, I would rather hire 1000 promising phd researchers than 1 guy who may have done incredible things before. It's like betting on blue chip vs betting on start-ups.

>>105974296
how could AI invent React? react was made by facebook engineers from ideas, failures and effort. how would you get from "we should have a more reactive system for facebook" to React via prompting? you still need people who can AI wrangle through shit.

>>105975493
if they are offering you $1b mostly in stock you could demand it all in cash and they'd give it to you. they have cash and it makes not difference.

>>105976212
metaverse is still plus 5+ years away in being possible.

>>105990316

no, there is vesting period in which you cannot sell