Thread 105977615

How old were you when you knew that every NP problem can turn into a P problem if you spend enough trillions of dollars on it :^)?
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/sam-altman-teases-100-million-gpu-scale-for-openai-that-could-cost-usd3-trillion-chatgpt-maker-to-cross-well-over-1-million-by-end-of-year

>>105977615 (OP)
eBay is gonna be FLOODED when this shit is over.

I was about the same as as Sam Altman's sister when he raped her.

>>105977633
The government is going to take over all these GPUs to easily decrypt TLS traffic and encrypted disks.

>>105977643
>as as
Go on?

>>105977652
Still several orders of magnitude away, if they don't have some mathematical trick up their sleeves.

>>105977615 (OP)
>retarded jew says more insane nonsense

>>105977698
How do you know there isn't some secret mathematical shortcut to guessing a modern AES key with enough computational complexity that isn't available to the masses? Maybe a cluster of 1 million or 10 million modern GPUs is enough to guess any AES 256 key in a polynomial time. That's something that only the US government and maybe the Chinese can ever have.

>>105977615 (OP)
If each one has ~3,000 cores with a frequency of 3 GHz, how long would it take to search an entire 128-bit keyspace?

There’s 2^128 possible combinations for a key. Divide this by the number of GPUs, cores, and the frequency of the cores to get computation time in seconds. Divide by 3.15 x 10^7 to get years. It’d still take 1.189 x10^10 years (maximum) to crack a single 128 bit keyspace using bruteforce, which sounds unlikely unless one of my assumptions on frequency and cores are way off.

>>105977777
I suppose I am also assuming 1 clock cycle = 1 key searched, which maybe there are is some set of operations that’d allow you to search multiple keys in a single clock cycle.

>>105977615 (OP)
This guy wants to make it impossible to actually afford or even find a GPU to run your own AI on, forcing you to use his censored, proprietary garbage. Fuck him.

>>105978007
They are most likely going to keep reselling them when new GPUs release. The cryptocurrency guys did the same thing.

>>105978214
You can't just pop server cards into your desktop PC ..

>>105978254
Then I don’t get why you would even complain.

soon its going to cost like 12 dollars per token
but at least itll know how many letters are in strawberry

>>105977633
Who's retarded enough to buy a used up GPU?

>>105977615 (OP)
all that money for small incremental improvements. literally bruteforcing through diminishing returns. once the investors realize the scale of the scum, the winter will be brutal.

>>105977615 (OP)
>article about Sam Altman
>mfw

>>105978430
Because GPUs cost resources to make, rare Earth metals and such that will now go into server GPUs instead of consumer GPUs.

>>105979104
You vill be forcefed propaganda and you VILL be happy.

(op should kill himself)

>>105979435
There isn't 100m GPUs available in the first place, which makes the problem self-limiting. Nor will there be any time soon, unless someone conjures up new chip fab capacity out of their rear. Because TMSC don't have any - they are the bottleneck with manufacturing more GPUs, not NVIDIA or resources.

>>105977615 (OP)
OH, COME ON...
That's it, They don't have AGI and don't know how achieve it, so they are going to brute force it with LLMs.
Why do they have to keep the leather jacket man happy?

>>105977615 (OP)
Sam Scam-man.
Didn't the Chinese btfo that cunt hard?

>>105977751
>How do you know there isn't some secret mathematical shortcut to guessing a modern AES key
There probably is.

how does GPT make money?

>>105980073
https://www.snellman.net/blog/archive/2025-06-02-llms-are-cheap/

>>105977615 (OP)
Where is all this money coming from?

>>105980391
All the big money has to come from government spending. You can't raise trillions of dollars or even hundreds of billions of dollars from investors.

>>105979864
Somehow Silicon Valley has psyopped themselves that the secret to unlocking superintelligence is somehow buying more and more GPUs from this man.

They even compete with each other on who can buy more GPUs

>>105980679
He's the equivalent of Xi in tech. He does nothing and wins.
>sells shitty GPUs back in the 1990s and 2000s, Intel is too uppish to enter the GPU market because it's not profitable enough
>In 2010s, crypto and bitcoin appears, and miners start buying GPUs to get rich mining crypto
>In 2020s, LLMs appear, no other GPU/TPU vendor is ready, everybody has to just buy NVIDIA.
It feels great to win when you work hard like you're fighting for your life, but it feels way better when you keep winning that big without doing anything at all.

>>105979736
Do fabs have night shifts, are they making stuff at night?

>>105977615 (OP)
>How old were you when you knew that every NP problem can turn into a P problem if you spend enough trillions of dollars on it :^)?
That's not how it works.

>>105977615 (OP)
>AGI soon. We just need 3 more trillion of the tax payer's money!
Sure, Sam, sure...

>>105977849
1 guess / 1 clock is pretty optimistic, but is a good thought experiment in case they're using ASICs or some gay shit like that.
>3000 cores
probably several hundred thousand if you count the GPUs.
>10^10 years
low bound would still be in the millions, even if you account for the enormous scale of the datacenter and more efficient crack methods than brute force (biclique etc)

>>105977615 (OP)
if there is better hardware in the future for local LLM, openai will have hard times. deepseek, qwen3, kimi-k2 is there and free of charge

>>105978796
just spritz some GPU oil on 'em. BAM, like new.

>>105979032
looks like it will never learn to count, just too intensive lol

>>105979864
He makes money by selling nvidia chips to the russians to guide their drones and missiles.

>>105977633
>no video-out
okay

>>105977633
None of these are actual GPUs, ya dingus.

>>105977615 (OP)
why don't these retards buy their own chip fab and make their own AI chips or whatever instead? is scam saltman a NVIDIA investor, a paid shill or some shit?

>multiple times more than the decade production
This retard should stop bullshitting to pump his ego and "worth" up

It's this meme, but with 3 trillion and the guys being Sam and Trump. I've been Sopranos posting lately, what can you do?

>>105977615 (OP)
>I need $10 trillion dollars to have 1 gigabyte of storage power

Do you remember when he "only needed" 500 billion?
As I said, my estimation was 5-10 trillion for the first 5 years.

>>105979032
My fellow AI haters... our response?

>>105980831
>nvidia
>shitty gpus
?

>>105977615 (OP)
These fucking LLM’s don’t actually do what these people say they do. They can be retrofitted to do something CLOSE to what they’re purported to do, but even then it’s only strapped together with glue and duct tape.

>>105983682
Nvidia wasn't the best GPU maker in the 1990s.