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Anonymous No.105979457 >>105979504 >>105979845 >>105980051 >>105980508 >>105983500 >>105988695
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Anonymous No.105979504
>>105979457 (OP)
Blessed pic. Good this will be a good thread, I can feel it.
Anonymous No.105979532 >>105979656 >>105980971
Wow every contractor on the team is getting laid off next quarter.
Anonymous No.105979561 >>105979829
>>105979287
>So what are we even supposed to do to "earn" a living?
You were supposed to have bought rural land and built a ted shack on it while you had the income so you could farm or start some other small business until the tech worker market improved.
Anonymous No.105979626
Anyone heard of STL Staffing / STL ITSM?
Anonymous No.105979656
>>105979532
Prepare to work with jeets, they're going to replace them with H1Bs. Can you feel it?
You need to learn how to wrangle jeets.
Anonymous No.105979820 >>105979829
I've gained additional jeet fatigue I didn't even know I still had the capacity for
Anonymous No.105979828
Almost everyone I work with is a massive retard and have the attetion span of a toddler.
Anonymous No.105979829 >>105979943
>>105979561
Who are you kidding, I'm a fucking Zoomer in who's about to graduate in Germany.
>You were supposed to have bought rural
There is no land to buy here, even if you have the moneys
>built a ted shack
There is no shed without permits
>while you had the income
See above. No considerable income.
>so you could farm
There is no farming without permits
>start some other small business
Already doing so
>until the tech worker market improved
Do you think that that's going to happen ever again?

>>105979820
What happened?
Anonymous No.105979845
>>105979457 (OP)
>ywnb this happy
god fucking dammit
Anonymous No.105979921 >>105983518 >>105983853
I work for bigpharma as a sysops intern and I have about $500 for training and a few months to fuck around and findout before I start my masters.

I like loonix and foss stuff because it's stupid easy with all the documentation. I am currently studying for AWS SAA but we don't use AWS here. Only Azure, winblowz and some random GCP stuff

What training/certs to go for?
Anonymous No.105979943 >>105979964 >>105980021
>>105979829
Team member decided to refactor my minimal API into a dozen different files for no reason. Now any change requires updating several layers of needless abstraction. This is thanks to the classic Hindu modus operandi of fake politeness to cover up railroading whatever change you want through, as I had been refusing it for weeks until he just did it and merged it anyway.
Anonymous No.105979964 >>105979989 >>105980021
>>105979943
It's so bizarre how they are smart enough to understand development concepts generally but simultaneously so dumb that they don't understand overhead created from blindly adhering to single responsibility principle. I don't understand it.
Anonymous No.105979989
>>105979964

Some people are able to learn very well but have low intuition so they can't inductively figure things out
Anonymous No.105980002
thanks for the laughs anon, the last posts in the previous thread were funny af

>>105979262
>zoomer shoots the messenger instead of understanding the message
>zoomer is unable to think for a minute
you've got a great future lmao
Anonymous No.105980021 >>105980027
>>105979943
Is there no one you could take this up to? If he's literally hurting the company, you should tell your superiors and explain the situation to them.
Just don't be racist in front of them, try to come off as understanding (concern trolling).

>>105979964
It is literally in their best interest. It creates overhead that is annoying to everyone (who's competent) but not really hard to solve by anyone. Like rust, it is a perfect situation for retards that need to look busy doing shit and things that will look like hard technical stuff in code reviews and HR performance reviews.

They're playing the long game. And here comes the thing into play I've been telling everyone for years: Talk to your superiors about it, make them understand the situation. See something, say something; see the jeet, name the jeet.
Anonymous No.105980027 >>105980039 >>105980081
>>105980021
>They're playing the long game.
Bro there's no fucking way this is some calculated plan. They're stupid and incompetent in 99.9% of cases, come on.
Anonymous No.105980038
>team leads gets buttmad when I bring the fact that organzation is absolute shit
>teams call with the whole team
>couple of guys that have been working here for a year don't even know who their manager is
I didn't even bother turning off the cam or the mic to laugh
Anonymous No.105980039 >>105980075 >>105980081
>>105980027

idk anon might be on to something. They addictively love tediousness for tediousness' sake and hate the concept of efficiency.
Anonymous No.105980051 >>105980070
>>105979457 (OP)
Tech workers reminds me of sex workers, the euphemism for whores.
Anonymous No.105980070
>>105980051
well, we are sellouts and work for the highest bidder, so you might be correct.
Anonymous No.105980075 >>105980106
>>105980039
I think it's more likely that the vast majority of them come from a Java background and Java really lends itself to this dogmatic, must follow SOLID at all costs trap that a ton of retarded beginners fall into. Then they work in companies populated by other midwit jeets and nobody corrects their retardation and it just compounds over time.
Anonymous No.105980081 >>105980125
>>105980027
The downfall of the west thus far was the mantra
>ItS nOt mAliCe whEn YoU cAN aTtrIBuTe sTUpIditY

Yes, they can plan that far ahead, they just hide their cunning behind a mask of incompetence to completely sideline everyone.
Higher caste jeets aren't stupid, they just act stupid to fool you. You don't replace almost all FAGMAN CEOs with jeets by being actually stupid. You replace them with a retard-gambit by making everyone lower their guards until it is too late. It's the age old "suck upwards, shit downwards".

>>105980039
I've seen it happen a few times. They even did it to me when I was 17 and working my first job as an intern at a startup.
Anonymous No.105980106 >>105980125
>>105980075

I'm a straight C#/Java dev and like most useful conventions, but there's something more to it. They straight up have no sense or intuition for inefficiency. They can't personally reason and be like "this is useless" they're just dogmatic. So I guess it's either genetic autism or something deliberately tedious.
Anonymous No.105980125 >>105980151 >>105980158
>>105980081
>You don't replace almost all FAGMAN CEOs with jeets by being actually stupid.
They are the most populated country on earth and they have the lethal combination of 3 things:
>seeing tech work as a very desirable career field
>cost/standard of living being low enough that they are a prime target for offshoring
>considered to be """native""" english speakers
It's a numbers game. Out of 1.5 billion jeets, there will be some hyper-capable outliers and that's who reaches the CEO positions like Pichai et al for the most part. The average jeet working remotely for a western company has and always will be a barely functioning retard.
>>105980106
At Uni I spoke to jeets that were doing doctorates in CS, physics etc so they obviously were not stupid. However once the convo veered out of their niche field it was like talking to someone with a 90iq. It's bizarre beyond belief. I have no idea how it's possible or why it's such a common phenomena with them specifically.
Anonymous No.105980132 >>105980144 >>105980181
I have been rejecting women and trannies candidates for a year.
Anonymous No.105980144 >>105980172
>>105980132
holy fucking based. assume you're not making it so obvious that you're at any risk. keep up the good work.
Anonymous No.105980151
>>105980125

If we're going by the 5 factor model I'd say Indians are low openness, high extraversion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits
Anonymous No.105980158 >>105980229
>>105980125
>The average jeet working remotely for a western company has and always will be a barely functioning retard.
I'm aware, it wouldn't be a problem if we only got people like Pitchai. But they go out of their way to take over all key positions of companies and stop hiring anyone but indians. And then they go ahead and start a fucking caste system within those companies, going as far as delegating lower castes to low level languages and gatekeeping high level languages for higher castes.
All the while funneling money back to india where they enrich their families by factors beyond a thousand.

It's similar to what china did in the 70's by opening the country for trade, just that the jeets are coming to the west this time.
Anonymous No.105980160
I've ended emails to some jeet team members with "Please do the sneedful" a few times and nobody said anything
Anonymous No.105980172 >>105980175
>>105980144
I don't. First there are like 10-15 coding challenges to choose and I always go with the one they are probably less familiar with according to their resume. Before the coding challenge there are some techinical questions and I just try to make them nervous. I also know what my manager and boss want in terms of "culture" so I lay them trap questions just in case they actually know how to code.
Finally I just leave the "choice" to my manager.
Anonymous No.105980175
>>105980172
Anonymous No.105980181
>>105980132
>for a year
so you haven't been able to find candidates that are not women or trannies? that's sad
Anonymous No.105980207
Bumping this:
>>105978490

Would just like a few templates or how to setup Jira and stuff to better document things
Anonymous No.105980215 >>105980222 >>105980233
Remember to come to the cool office during the heatwaves!

>It's actually just people I'd rather avoid
>Productive but not coding or working on infra
>Just throw me off the roof
Anonymous No.105980222
>>105980215
Do you live in Germany/Netherlands/Austria and not have AC at home?
Anonymous No.105980229 >>105980256 >>105980314
>>105980158
>going as far as delegating lower castes to low level languages and gatekeeping high level languages for higher castes.
So Pajeet1 is forced to write firmware in assembler because that's low, but Pajeet2 gets to do Python scripts? That's so retarded I wish it was real.
Anonymous No.105980231
it do be like that fr fr
Anonymous No.105980233 >>105980241
>>105980215
Every time I'm forced to go to the office I show up in flip flops and do next to nothing while also making sure no one can focus and get anything done either.
Anonymous No.105980241
>>105980233
this thread is really based, ive been slumming it in the dead /wdg/ for too long it seems
Anonymous No.105980245 >>105981235
>did technical interview
>waiting if I'm being moved forward for full loop interviews
>check web portal
>more positions were added to my profile
>no need for more technical interviews for the new positions
>now actively applying for 3 separate positions
Alright, either this is a really good sign or I fucked up.
Anonymous No.105980256 >>105980258 >>105980277 >>105980314 >>105980317 >>105980454 >>105980461
>>105980229
>So Pajeet1 is forced to write firmware in assembler because that's low, but Pajeet2 gets to do Python scripts?
Yes
>That's so retarded I wish it was real.
You don't need to wish, it actually is real. Microsoft india is currently involved in such a scandal.
Anonymous No.105980258
>>105980256
lmfao
Anonymous No.105980275 >>105981356
I'm so sick of people not trying to figure it out themselves first before asking for help. Useless dogs.
Anonymous No.105980277 >>105980293 >>105980300 >>105981045 >>105984215 >>105991286
>>105980256
imagine a world where autistic white guys could go to college, learn python, and come immediately on the other side with a $100k job
Anonymous No.105980293 >>105980323
>>105980277
I'd love that world. But that's only for brown people.

t. autistic white guy who's going to college
Anonymous No.105980300 >>105981045
>>105980277

That was 2014
Anonymous No.105980313
>tell people I have the flu
>been joining teams calls while drunk for a week
>drink beer and scotch during calls
THEY CAN'T DO SHIT TO ME
Anonymous No.105980314 >>105980361
>>105980229
>>105980256
they probably ask the lower caste pajeets to write the modules in C while the higher caste pajeets write shitty python scripts that call the code that does the actual job
I've never worked with pajeets, but judging by the above, I imagine high caste pajeets must be lazy and entitled af
Anonymous No.105980317
>>105980256
God made jeets as a joke
Anonymous No.105980323 >>105980361
>>105980293
>But that's only for brown people.
they don't get that either
Anonymous No.105980361 >>105980425
>>105980314
>they probably ask the lower caste pajeets to write the modules in C while the higher caste pajeets write shitty python scripts that call the code that does the actual job
Spot on. Which is funny because lower castes a fucking retarded and cannot build the modules in C without screwing everything up. This right here is why jeet software fucking sucks. The shit on top looks fancy-shmancy because jeets at top program the UI in some JS-framework while the backend is falling apart, example: Windows 11.
>I imagine high caste pajeets must be lazy and entitled af
I had the misfortune to work with both. Don't be fooled, they're both lazier than any other group of humans. The higher castes are just hypocritical about it.
>>105980323
Are you sure?
Anonymous No.105980425
>>105980361
>Are you sure?
yeah
the vast majority of them get genetically filtered out and can't finish college, those that do get paid basically prevailing wage to be a token dei hire (the one benefit being they basically can't get fired)
the jeets and shit are indentured slaves and work for pennies (I think h1b javascript devs make like $60k or something lol)
Chinks are the only ones that do well but they're not really brown
Anonymous No.105980454
>>105980256
Lmao fucking Microjeet strikes again
Anonymous No.105980461
>>105980256
I hope that's real because that would make it real funny.
Anonymous No.105980484 >>105980528 >>105980653
I took a second remote job because I slack off most of the day and this one is really easy, but I had to be creative while applying.
I never explicitly said I was an indian but I have implied it in every possible way.
Long story short, I've been larping as an indian for 3 months.
Anonymous No.105980508
>>105979457 (OP)
>We have a Consultant (White) join our team to "Help"
>Week later they already tried throwing me under the bus in a department meeting
Anonymous No.105980528 >>105980559 >>105980574
>>105980484

You know it isn't necessarily the jeetness that makes you attractive it's more the "willing to work for 1/4 the pay" thing.

To me rn the ideal stack is two low-effort remote SWE gigs around the $90-110k range where you can tinker with either as needed and never get forced to be "the guy"
Anonymous No.105980559
>>105980528
>You know it isn't necessarily the jeetness that makes you attractive it's more the "willing to work for 1/4 the pay" thing.
I was writing a shitpost before about how I disguised myself as an Indian and asked for far less pay to score more jobs. I got bored and quit halfway but it did make me think how you could probably wrack up a heap of comfy jobs if you were to accept far less pay. The trick is make sure these are all WFH, that you take on multiple at a time and that each company gets what they pay for.
Anonymous No.105980574 >>105980598
>>105980528
How does one find jobs like that? I'd love to work remote from another country. Earning $90 to 110k would be a dream because SWE jobs are 60k max here. I'd even work two jobs full time because I don't need to leave my home often.
Anonymous No.105980598 >>105980613
>>105980574
if you need to ask...
Anonymous No.105980611
>>105978108 #
>We did some interviews and a lot of the candidates were younger and doing the masters program scam and they were kind of retarded.
What program scam is that? The ones that offer STEM MBAs/OPT to extend their stay here? Because almost every Uni has done this now
Anonymous No.105980613 >>105980632
>>105980598
Chill, I haven't graduated yet, I'm still green as a lawn. Asking for the future because 60k is a slap in the face here.
Anonymous No.105980614 >>105980627 >>105980630
>local development stack requires running k8s cluster parking 28GB of ram
its so tiresome bros
Anonymous No.105980627 >>105980664
>>105980614
>local development stack requires running k8s cluster parking 28GB of ram
wtf are you working on?
Anonymous No.105980630 >>105980664
>>105980614
What the fuck are you even doing. I mean, nice that you guys filter RAMlets, but still WTF.
Anonymous No.105980632 >>105980652
>>105980613
you'll need a very strong resume, remote jobs get literally thousands of applicants.
Anonymous No.105980640
>>105979165
yes. no one can or will know if you are smart
Anonymous No.105980652 >>105980674 >>105981060
>>105980632
Is working for a prestigious university strong enough?
Anonymous No.105980653
>>105980484
Im so jealous of amerilards having all those remote jobs. here they give you 1 day ho max
Anonymous No.105980664 >>105980699
>>105980630
>>105980627
it's... for a React graph...
Anonymous No.105980674 >>105980699
>>105980652
define working? probably not tbqh they want industry experience. i have a friend has an actual doctorate in cs and is extremely competent and he's applied to hundreds of remote jobs and gotten like 2 interviews and 0 offers. keep in mind that a LOT of those remote job postings are permanent postings in the sense that they have 0 interest in actually hiring anyone and just keep it as marketing on linkedin and whatnot. it's real rough for those jobs. a lot of the people you see working 2-3 jobs are either former FAANGgots or have like 10 years experience with decent companies. no harm in trying though just wouldnt get my hopes up
Anonymous No.105980691 >>105980719
Survived another layoff round despite straight up telling management I'm only here for the money. I don't even know anymore man, there is no way these companies are real. Even if the money they pay me is. Wish my back wasn't fukt by scoliosis so I could just go work on a ranch or an oil field or something.
Anonymous No.105980699 >>105980735
>>105980664
>28GB of parked clusters
>for a fucking react graph
Someone is trolling. Either you or whoever set that shit up. Are you profiling the data for the singularity of a black-hole or what?
>>105980674
>define working?
I build custom software for various departments and their needs.
>i have a friend has an actual doctorate in cs and is extremely competent and he's applied to hundreds of remote jobs and gotten like 2 interviews and 0 offers.
Darn.
>keep in mind that a LOT of those remote job postings are permanent postings in the sense that they have 0 interest in actually hiring anyone and just keep it as marketing on linkedin and whatnot.
Damn
>no harm in trying though just wouldnt get my hopes up
Alright, thanks.
Anonymous No.105980719
>>105980691

I'm kind of ready for my next severance package after almost a year under my belt at the current place
Anonymous No.105980722
I hate the uservice distributed computing meta
>we have millions of customers and processing up to a TB of data per day
nigga, you can buy consumer grade macs with 512 gb memory right now for 10k, you don't need a 1MM AWS bill to support that kind of workload
Anonymous No.105980735 >>105980778
>>105980699
the product requires a bunch of providers to be up so it can render the relationship of the node against them. each change i made on a service is taxed by 5 mins on the smaller side. i am absolutely rammed up the ass by the tech debt. things are unlikely to improve until next year
Anonymous No.105980765 >>105981558
Does Kubernetes even make any sense in a modern cloud environment that can autoscale server instances easily? I get it for locally hosted servers where this is a hard job to manage as it kind of simulates what a cloud environment already is, but for my current organization it just seems like another needless layer of complexity. Nobody ever knows wtf is going on with the machines. I used AWS + EC2 at my last place and it was trivially easy to understand, work with, monitor.
Anonymous No.105980778
>>105980735
Anonymous No.105980782 >>105980807 >>105980858
How do you build a "happy" team bros
Anonymous No.105980807 >>105980838 >>105981758 >>105981847
>>105980782
>How do you build a "happy" team bros
You do not hire outside of these countries
Anonymous No.105980827
reached the point where i need to basically refactor the dependency injection stuff for my nest.js side projects modules pretty thoroughly cause i just kept applying bandaid fixes and procrastinating doing it. god this is gonna be miserable. hopefully just dumping all my shit into gemini 2.5 in ai studio will help with its giant context window
Anonymous No.105980838 >>105980850
>>105980807
Does Serbia have a bad reputation for offshoring? I have no perspective since I've only worked for domestic companies.
Anonymous No.105980850 >>105980868
>>105980838
Serbia is one of those countries where
>With friends like these, you don't need enemies
applies the most. They're absolute lolcows that don't get shit done.
Anonymous No.105980858
>>105980782

It's some very delicate chemistry. You need a team lead that is self motivated, ambitious, diplomatic, and not overly disagreeable (probably the most important aspect). He will serve as the primary "engine" of the team that keeps a high standard. You need a manager/PM that never micromanages and merely facilitates work and serves as a buffer between the engineering and product side so that cancer never seeps into the team.

I think these are the make or break components of any given team, the lead/manager dynamic. They need to know their shit and be active enough but also not be overly disagreeable or micromanaging.
Anonymous No.105980868 >>105980876
>>105980850
Interesting, wanting to do as little work as humanly possible and not giving a shit about the "rich westerners" that you're working with and fucking over is definitely a trait a lot of people herehave. The companies I've worked for have been decent enough luckily.
Anonymous No.105980876 >>105980895
>>105980868
Mate, no offense, but your people need to get their asses out their rears. Even romanians and bulgarians are more pleasant to work with.
Anonymous No.105980895 >>105980905 >>105980911
>>105980876
I don't take offense cause I don't give a shit about how anyone other than me is and I'm competent and don't shovel shit on other peoples plates. But in any case it's never going to change, the traits I mentioned have become core over the past 20-30 years for a variety of reasons. Btw Serbs despite British people so if you/your company is British that might be part of the reason why they never give a fuck.
Anonymous No.105980905
>>105980895
*despise
Anonymous No.105980911
>>105980895
There isn't a nation on earth that likes the british. Even the british hate themselves like no other.
Anonymous No.105980971
>>105979532
>Wow every contractor on the team is getting laid off next quarter.
same thing my company (indeed) did before we laid off
Anonymous No.105981045
>>105980277
>imagine a world where autistic white guys could go to college, learn python, and come immediately on the other side with a $100k job
>>105980300
>That was 2014
I was about to say that was my life from ~2018 until now
Anonymous No.105981060
>>105980652
>Is working for a prestigious university strong enough?
no
Anonymous No.105981128
It feels like you either have Order or Passion and if you have neither, it's hard to actually work.
Anonymous No.105981235 >>105981288 >>105981450 >>105981466
>>105980245
You have the unique possibility to do the work of three people while getting paid the wage of one. Congratulations.
Anonymous No.105981288
>>105981235
I've done whole teams and I'm still getting downleveled
Anonymous No.105981356 >>105981434 >>105981441
>>105980275
worse yet, going immediately to slopGPT instead of reading the docs
Anonymous No.105981357 >>105981422
I accidentally ran one of those velcro cable tie/straps through my laundry and now the velcro doesn't work
should i be worried?
is this a fire-able offense usually?
Anonymous No.105981422
>>105981357
>should i be worried?
yes, but not because you'll be fired but because you're catastrophizing. See a therapist
Anonymous No.105981434
>>105981356
if documentation were better written, people would be more inclined to read them. The problem is that the average person has not had a writing class since highschool
Anonymous No.105981441 >>105981510
>>105981356
nothing really wrong with that especially if it works the first time
Anonymous No.105981450
>>105981235
>do the work of three people while getting paid the wage of one
this only happens because there's always one person willing to do the work of three people. start a tech union
https://www.worker.gov/form-a-union/
Anonymous No.105981455 >>105981471
Have any of your personal projects taken off and given you some extra income?
I'm looking for reasons to keep grinding mine.
Anonymous No.105981466
>>105981235
>that's what your hard work is worth
Anonymous No.105981471 >>105981521 >>105981589
>>105981455
>Have any of your personal projects taken off and given you some extra income?
everyone and their grandma are trying to make
"passive" income with personal projects. Just look at all the shovelware churned out on product hunt and on ycombinator show HN. None of them make money because all the low hanging fruit has been taken care of. The only things that remain require formal qualifications
Anonymous No.105981510 >>105982880
>>105981441
fair. I was thinking more about the case where someone ends up with convoluted AI slop that "works" to solve a problem, not knowing that that problem is described in the first page of the section of the framework's docs called "The Basics".

nobody wants to read (or even skim) the docs on things. So much understanding can be gained by taking your hands off the keyboard and reading, page by page, in order, for 30 minutes or so.

of course this only applies to reasonably popular frameworks and such that have well-written documentation
Anonymous No.105981521 >>105981584
>>105981471
>The only things that remain require formal qualifications
What do you mean? Making some kind of novel solution in a specialized field?
Anonymous No.105981529 >>105981541 >>105981590 >>105981672
Is it ok to leave early on your first day? I have nothing else to do
Anonymous No.105981541 >>105983139
>>105981529
find something to do
Anonymous No.105981558
>>105980765
>linkedin hag pestering me to apply to some god awful job
>finally break and give her a chance to offer $$$
>agree to fill in my details in company ats
>gets rejected the next day

wtf bros, is this some very elaborate ruse to harvest useless data?
Anonymous No.105981584
>>105981521
>specialized field
exactly, i.e. making specific tools for doctors lawyers accountants etc etc etc. You can't do that without already being one or knowing one to partner with you so that they can authorize/assert/whatever legal buzzword that your tool can be used
Anonymous No.105981589 >>105981608
>>105981471
>The only things that remain require formal qualifications
By "formal qualifications" you mean "shit that an AI can't pump out in a couple of prompts" then there's plenty of opportunities there. Technical people are famous for their lack of social skills, so it's no surprise they suck at marketing. If you are a technical person, chances are you have the opportunity to do some really cool shit with your skills. Figure out how to use your skills to generate publicity for yourself (e.g. entertaining normies by doing something interesting on YouTube) and advertise your product that way. A litmus test to determine if your product is worth building is gauging how much money it makes for your customers relative to what you're charging. If it makes fuck all money, then it's worth fuck all of your time. If you're building some AI Poweredβ„’ trash for a customer you've invented out of your own imagination, pack it in.
Anonymous No.105981590 >>105983139
>>105981529
>Is it ok to leave early on your first day?
no
>I have nothing else to do
learn to look busy
Anonymous No.105981608 >>105981630
>>105981589
thank you for the reply chatgpt
Anonymous No.105981619
do you guys work with designers and what is your experience
Anonymous No.105981630 >>105981641 >>105981756
>>105981608
I'm not ChatGPT. I'm Grok, you dirty fucking nigger. Buy a Tesla, heil Hitler.
Anonymous No.105981641
>>105981630
Heil Hitler \o
Anonymous No.105981672 >>105983139
>>105981529
NO. If anything leave late.
Anonymous No.105981677 >>105981708 >>105981822
Where are the easy high paid jobs outside of tech? My MBA friends seem to be rolling in cash and always free during weekdays but they deny any attempts from me to ask what their actual job title is. Meanwhile my cousin's mom who doesn't even have a college degree is somehow making 200K a year (cousin actually showed me her paystub when I told him he was bullshitting) but all they tell me is that "it's just a regular deskjob"
Seriously, what are normal people doing to win so much? I can't even get an helpdesk job for 12 bucks an hour.
Should I go back to school for an MBA or something?
Anonymous No.105981708
>>105981677
>Where are the easy high paid jobs
At your father's company
Anonymous No.105981756
>>105981630
ok ye

I know that IT jobs are filled with brainlets and if I wasn't a retard I would be in swe, but sometimes I am just astounded by the raw stupidity i see from infosec people. I don't expect much from L1-2 helldesk lifers but business apps and infosec are arguably worse in that their incompetence can actually affect the company's bottom line. ai is only gonna make it worse. we're so fucked.
Anonymous No.105981758 >>105981841 >>105987636
>>105980807
>Turkey
???

What about Macedonia?
There was a company hiring near me (in the UK) but when I looked into the company all I saw were Macedonians, looked like a scam so I noped out
Anonymous No.105981785
sir are u avaleble? now?
Anonymous No.105981822
>>105981677
become a private investigator for rich folk
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/protective-service/private-detectives-and-investigators.htm#tab-4
Anonymous No.105981841
>>105981758
There are many gypsies that live there but there are also many alright people. I feel like the people that have internet access and could program would not be gypsies.
Anonymous No.105981847
>>105980807
>13 distinct time zones
bad map
Anonymous No.105981897 >>105982037 >>105982089
what companies in switzerland should I aim for if I want to do an internal transfer to USA?
Anonymous No.105982037
>>105981897
Jewgle.
Anonymous No.105982089
>>105981897
some jewish bank
Anonymous No.105982099 >>105982171 >>105982864
So sick of Aws and this cunt guidance team giving us limited permissions.
Anonymous No.105982171 >>105982238 >>105986196
>>105982099
>Aws
nothing wrong with AWS
Anonymous No.105982238
>>105982171
I'm building my own tech bullshit and I'm purposely avoiding major cloud providers such as AWS. Those faggots are wicked expensive. Niggas become unprofitable overnight if they don't optimize their shit right. Those "short-term fixes" implemented by your offshore team in Manila are going to rape your profitability the moment Jeff Bezos's wants to build another Ram Ranch cockship.
Anonymous No.105982729 >>105982765
Anonymous No.105982756
I forgor mop classic dropped an hour ago
Anonymous No.105982765
>>105982729
Anonymous No.105982778
Literally just work for free for a year or two to get the Exposure you need to make up for your weak handshake and refusal to use creamy hard-stock paper? Maybe start a few personal projects and give them to the companies you interview for? Literally do anything but zone out in "School" learning things that aren't useful to the current market? It's literally that easy.
Anonymous No.105982791
starting in 2 weeks lads, how we feelin?
Anonymous No.105982793 >>105982877 >>105982877
it's a true wonder that people havent realized protestants are the real jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic
>It's literally your place to be poor, slave, if you aren't poor you are going to HELL
>t. rich clergy
Anonymous No.105982864
>>105982099
This, cloud hosting doesnt cost anything, why cant they just give me more instances???
Anonymous No.105982877
>>105982793
>>It's literally your place to be poor, slave
>>105982793
>>t. rich clergy
catholics don't say
>if you aren't poor you are going to HELL
but they are almost as jewish as protestants
but I agree with you, protestants are as bad as the jews
Anonymous No.105982880 >>105983012
>>105981510
Documentation LITERALLY makes a codebase slower and less maintainable.

Move Fast and Break Things. That's the motto...
Anonymous No.105982900
Another day passes where I am thankful that I don't have to interact with the deranged techbro job market.
Anonymous No.105982901 >>105982913
>Eat a beaner's stinky ass
>Suck a nigga's sweaty balls
>Lick a dog's spermy dick
>Wake up at the crack of dawn to gargle cum
>Juice your boss's balls like a lemon into your thirsty faggot mouth
>Let a gay retard rip hella ass right into your face and take a nice deep breath
>Don't ask for pay because you're fucking gay
Anonymous No.105982913
>>105982901
the rest is wack but
>>Lick a dog's spermy dick
>>Wake up at the crack of dawn to gargle cum
i do these for free and without asking
Anonymous No.105982917 >>105982926 >>105982931 >>105984093
Is SCRUM common in software engineering and similar fields? I'm asking because its heavily shoved down my throat in college. Can't do anything without having to write down what you'll be doing beforehand and having a certain time frame to do everything. Its stupid because as someone who doesn't have years of experience I don't know how long something could last or what is plausible in actually developing within my given timeframe.
Anonymous No.105982926
>>105982917
Yes
Anonymous No.105982931 >>105983026
>>105982917
>school
utwg is that way retard
Anonymous No.105982955
What's going on with LLMs now? I know OpenAI released some agent last week
I'm using Gemini Pro to help me with creating my backends (node and fastapi) and it is pretty good... Not 100% accurate but it can get me to the finish line and helps with debugging
Anonymous No.105982956 >>105982963 >>105982994 >>105983000 >>105983022 >>105988770
DUDE JUST BUILD PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL/ WORK DUDE JUST LEARN MULTIPLE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES DUDE JUST EXPAND YOUR NETWORK DUDE JUST BUILD WEBSITE/PORTFOLIO SHOWCASING YOUR EXPERIENCE DUDE JUST FIND INTERNSHIPS AND TAKE CLASSES WITH LARGE PROJECTS DUDE JUST CREATE DRAFT RESUMES AND GET THEM REVIEWED DUDE JUST LEARN AND MASTER BIG O DUDE JUST LEARN AND IMPLEMENT DATA STRUCTURES AND ALGORITHMS FROM SCRATCH IN JAVA AND C THEN LEARN DATABASE FUNDAMENTALS AND GRIND 200 LEETCODE QUESTIONS A WEEK DUDE JUST MEMORIZE DIJKSTRA'S ALGORITHM HASH TABLE COLLISION RESOLUTION RABIN KARP SUBSTRING SEARCH AVL TREES RED-BLACK TREES MAPREDUCE HASHMAPS TREENODE'S TRIE AND TRIENODE DUDE JUST LEARN JAVASCRIPT AND BUILD MORE PROJECTS IN REACT DUDE JUST LEARN PYTHON AND MEMORIZE DATA SCIENCE LIBRARIES IN PANDAS NUMPY PYTORCH REQUESTS BEAUTIFUL SOUP 4 DUDE JUST BE A ROCKSTAR CODING NINJA PROGRAMMER PASSIONATE WILLING TO WORK IN YOUR FREE TIME FOR FREE WITHOUT GETTING PAID DUDE JUST WORK FOR FREE AT A LOW COST START ON FIVERR FREELANCING UPWORK INTERNSHIPS WITHOUT ASKING FOR MONEY DUDE CONTACT EVERY BUSINESS AND MAKE THEIR WEBSITES FOR FREE GET YOUR FOOT IN THE DOOR DUDE GET TESTIMONIALS FOR FREE AND CLIENT EXPERIENCE DUDE BE MORE PASSIONATE WORK ALL THE TIME FOR FREE GUARANTEED DUDE JUST READ JAVA FOR DUMMIES C FOR DUMMIES HOW TO AUTOMATE YOUR JOB IN PYTHON 1000 PAGES IN YOUR FREE TIME PYTHON CRASH COURSE STRUCTURE AND INTERPRETATION OF COMPUTER PROGRAMS C++ DESIGN PATTERNS PDF CODE COMPLETE MUST HAVE BOOKS FOR PROGRAMMERS DUDE JUST READ IT IN YOUR FREE TIME READ CRACKING THE CODE INTERVIEW AGILE SOFTWARE HANDBOOK THINK LIKE A PROGRAMMER PDF DUDE JUST SELF-STUDY ITS ONLY 1000 PAGES A NIGHT JUST READ AT WORK/SCHOOL ON YOUR LUNCH BREAK READ YOU DON'T KNOW JS EFFECTIVE JAVA C# IN DEPTH
Anonymous No.105982963
>>105982956
ngmi
Anonymous No.105982994 >>105983015
>>105982956
Have you tried getting down on your knees and sucking some enormous fat dick you fucking faggot ass motherfucker?
Anonymous No.105983000
>>105982956
none of that shit will work for american tech workers anymore. it's over. you will only get hired if you are a lying pajeet. and that is a GOOD thing.
Anonymous No.105983004 >>105983041
>interviewing candidates for a Lv Aleph System Analyst (DevSecOpsGru Support)
>tell them when they come in that it's going to be at least 10 hours of panel interview and ask if they need any special considerations
>most of them complain that they werent told it would be "so long" (theyre fucking unemployed what else are they using the time for)
>most of them ask if they can have a coffee or water
>by hour 3 of the panel most of ask to go to the bathroom
>one of them asked if he can go for a fuckign VAPE

Why are these zoomers so fucking weak?
Not one has passed yet. We're probably going to have to hire internationally if we can't find even ONE person who can deal with a normal fucking interview.
Anonymous No.105983012 >>105983072
>>105982880
doesn't read docs, didn't read the post. typical
Anonymous No.105983015
>>105982994
yeah it was very enjoyable but not profitable in pure financial terms
Anonymous No.105983022 >>105983549
>>105982956
>Just get a masters bro
>Just start a business bro
>Learn a trade bro
>Become a nurse bro
>Personal projects bro
>More certs bro
Anonymous No.105983026 >>105983054
>>105982931
The question is for people for who are employed idiot. I haven't finished college yet.
Anonymous No.105983041
>>105983004
I use one simple trick for my interviews. I invite the applicant to breakfast, arrive early, and then slip the beaner working the grill 5$ to mess up the applicant's order on purpose. I already know whether or not they're a good Programmer based on their resume. But I need to see how they deal with hardship. If they can't handle their breakfast being made wrong how will they handle the high stakes My company deals with every day?
Anonymous No.105983054 >>105983063
>>105983026
>he's unemployed
Kill yourself retard.
Anonymous No.105983063
>>105983054
u first.
Anonymous No.105983072
>>105983012
oh my GOD your so fucking UNEMPLOYED and POOR just SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPPPP
Anonymous No.105983083 >>105983085
I used to think some people simply chose not to read, but more and more I think they actually are physically unable to. Being able to read and parse and absorb information is like a superpower
Anonymous No.105983085 >>105983936
>>105983083
Bro? Why you are posting without proving your TC?
Anonymous No.105983136 >>105983160
>there are dev""ops"" glow in the dark niggers in the thread
>there are tradie faggot it repair monkeys in the general
>there are retard fiber puller "networkers" in the general
>there are non programmers in the general
>there are UNEMPLOYEDS in the thread
Fuck Off. Unless you are a Programmer and use a proper language like Python, React, or Bash, you aren't a real tech worker. This is Tech Workers General.
Anonymous No.105983139
>>105981541
>>105981590
>>105981672
I left early. He started having dinner after everyone left
Anonymous No.105983142 >>105983176
I just got turned down from Walmart.
>9YOE in IT
This country is collapsing, lmao.
Anonymous No.105983160
>>105983136
I'm a DevOps | IT Structured Cabling + Network Engineer without a job, and I've never programmed in my life other than using others' Stack Overflow code.
Anonymous No.105983176 >>105983466
>>105983142
>hire anon to stock shelves at walmart
>anon refuses to stock shelves citing that he's a PROGRAMMING GAWD and this work is beneath him
i can see why min wage hellholes dont hire programmers lmao
Anonymous No.105983322
let's assume layoffs are coming and your boss's boss knows you want to leave the team (and maybe the company). do you think you'd be a candidate in their minds for them to lay off?
I told my boss I wanted to move to another business unit in the same corporate group. I just found out that some tech people are being laid off... will I be the next lucky one?
Anonymous No.105983466
>>105983176
I didn't even say I'm an IT guy.
I literally cited all of my retail experience from my teenage days, but lied about the years employed.
Anonymous No.105983500 >>105983522 >>105983563 >>105983884 >>105983903 >>105983915 >>105984004 >>105984284 >>105985959 >>105986291 >>105986331
>>105979457 (OP)
i hope a bunch of normie reddit narcissists don't turn up today. this board has been gone to shit lately.

Roll Call: Who on this board actually writes code? Answer by pasting two lines of code that don't look like jeetsheet or devlarp AI rubbish
Anonymous No.105983518
>>105979921
what subject are you planning to study for the masters?
Anonymous No.105983522
>>105983500
I hack your bad code
Anonymous No.105983549 >>105983562
>>105983022
>>Just get a masters bro
just get a masters in taiwan for $3-4k/sem tuition bro. I'm here now
Anonymous No.105983562 >>105983580
>>105983549
a masters in what tho?
Anonymous No.105983563 >>105983599
>>105983500

>LDA #$22
>STA bufferHelper
Anonymous No.105983580 >>105983634
>>105983562
english studies bro
Anonymous No.105983599
>>105983563
checked
echo 'eax ebx ecx'
Anonymous No.105983634
>>105983580
do you already speak english?
Anonymous No.105983853
>>105979921
Do you like where you work? Are you trying to convert to full time? If so then, I don't see any reason to not go for the AZ-400.
Anonymous No.105983884 >>105983891 >>105984317
>>105983500
if (IsPajeet(anonymous)) {
Console.WriteLine("Sar, do not redeem");
}

private void IsPajeet(PosterClass poster) {
return true;
}
Anonymous No.105983891
>>105983884
fuck I'm retarded, that was supposed to be bool and not void
Anonymous No.105983903 >>105984317
>>105983500
var gayTwg = twg.FindAll(anon => anon.IsGay);
Anonymous No.105983915 >>105984317
>>105983500
>claims authority
>doesn't clear his own standard
Why are morons like this?
Anonymous No.105983936
>>105983085
>TC
go back to blind
Anonymous No.105984004 >>105984042 >>105984421
>>105983500
int false_int = 0; bool false_placeholder = false; if false_int!= false_placeholder { false_int = 1; } else { false_int = false_int }
if false_int == false_int { std::cout << "the value of false_int is" << false_int << std::endl; } else print ("false");
Anonymous No.105984042
>>105984004
Anon, you shouldn't post snippets of proprietary code on /g/
Anonymous No.105984053
start doing this.
Anonymous No.105984093 >>105984338
>>105982917
Yes pretty much every place does scrum.
Anonymous No.105984215 >>105984417 >>105984447 >>105991007
>>105980277
This used to be the case since 2010 - 2022. This field overhired so much during the coof. So many people without CS related degrees trying to get their foot in, and many did. They're now still mass applying. Every time my company opens up a role I inform them to strictly only invite people with foundational knowledge, i.e. a CS degree or related to it (AI or computational XXX could also work).

NO bootcampers
Anonymous No.105984284 >>105984348
>>105983500
>code

x = 3
brahmin_only = "im op and i love jeet men"

while x > 1:
print(brahmin_only * (2 ** x))
x += 1
Anonymous No.105984311 >>105984344 >>105984346
is starting uni at 25 with 0 prior knowledge or work experience a reasonable thing to do?
Anonymous No.105984317
>>105983884
>>105983903
>>105983915
var gayJeets = gayTwg.Where(anon=>anon.IsPajeet).Select(jeet=>jeet).ToList();
gayJeets.Insert(You);
Anonymous No.105984338
>>105984093
if you mean maximizing the amount of work not done to have another post-mortem why shit isn't getting done then yes 4 out of 5 places do scrum.
Anonymous No.105984344 >>105984404
>>105984311
The only difference between you and the 19 year old high schoolers is that you'll die 6 years earlier on average. The real question is if the job market will unfuck itself in 3 years, and if it doesn't what do you have to lose?
Anonymous No.105984346
>>105984311
You're in the wrong part of town pal.
>>>/utwg/
Anonymous No.105984348
>>105984284
compile error too many lines on line 0
Anonymous No.105984370
I don't even know where to look for another job.
Anonymous No.105984404
>>105984344
thanks anon
if/when I make it, you'll be in my thoughts
Anonymous No.105984417 >>105984455
>>105984215
You'd miss out on my shit ass then
>B.S. EE
>5 years as an EE (literally learned electromechanical design on the job)
>Wanna code and do less mechanical/less China dependent shit
>Le boot camp
>Full stack software engineer now
Anonymous No.105984421
>>105984004
false_int_2 = (false_int + 1) >> 1;
if(false_int_2 == false_int) { /*checked*/ std:println("true"); }
Anonymous No.105984447 >>105984473 >>105985169
>>105984215
i hate bootcampers so much its unreal
Anonymous No.105984455
>>105984417
naw he'd interview you
EE or CS share the same fundamentals.
Anonymous No.105984463 >>105984473
Only hire people with MS or PhD.
Too many bootcampers and people with BAs from clown colleges
Anonymous No.105984473
>>105984447
>>105984463
What do you get when you combine bootcampers with AI?
Anonymous No.105984504 >>105984523
I got hired today =^)
Anonymous No.105984523
>>105984504
Cashier, floor supervisor, or grill cook?
Anonymous No.105984726 >>105984882
Today at the Microsoft cafeteria I had the orange chicken. It was basically mall-tier Chinese food, but after a weekend of eating only snacks (on Saturday, I only ate donuts, cookies, and energy drinks), it was exactly what I wanted and it was pretty good!
Might get a burrito tomorrow unless there's an exciting special
Anonymous No.105984855
learn a trade
Anonymous No.105984882 >>105985140 >>105987475
>>105984726
why haven't they laid you off yet
Anonymous No.105985140 >>105985150
>>105984882
He makes less than 70k a year.
Anonymous No.105985150
>>105985140
I'm all in favor of a pay cut if it means I get to leave niggas on read for a week.
Anonymous No.105985169 >>105985216
>>105984447
You want to talk about grim. Bootcampers for IT who basically sat at braindump schools for 4-8 weeks and barely know shit then complain about not getting a job. I know about 3 people from WGU who became programmers and actually know what full stack implementation means in the workplace. But bootcampers for CCNA are unhireable, they pass the test but have no basic fundamentals of IT.
Anonymous No.105985171 >>105985257 >>105985260 >>105985320 >>105986529
Indians doing everything in DMs instead of threads or an email and sending messages one line at a time is why I'm now awake at 2 in the morning (my phone is set to vibrate)
Anonymous No.105985216 >>105985228
>>105985169
Bootcampers are faggots who don't even have the agency to take one uDemy course. Niggas who got in with nothing but a portfolio back in the 2010s are real ones. Niggas such as myself, I'm a real nigga.
Anonymous No.105985228
>>105985216
Most of the content is free now. Aside from testing material you really can get 80% of what you need for fucking free. Imagine getting scammed out of thousands of dollars when you could spend 100's on better websites for self paced work. Lazy fucks do not belong in this industry.
Anonymous No.105985257
>>105985171
>hi anon
>quick huddle?
Anonymous No.105985260
>>105985171
Quick call saar?
Anonymous No.105985320 >>105986529
>>105985171
Jeeta sends me message at 3.30pm
>it's just "hi anon"
>completely ignore it
>get a message 4hrs later on my phone from same Jeeta asking for some bullshit
>ignore it, I'm offline

Sorry Pooja Chocganash, try again tomorrow and don't ignore the No Hello status this time.
Anonymous No.105985702 >>105985716 >>105986236
How often do you take vacation days, anons? I'm a contractor so day I don't work, day I get zero revenue. My current mindset is "grind until you run out of contracts, then take it as a long holiday while you interview and get new ones", but I don't know if that's sustainable.
Anonymous No.105985716
>>105985702
I would take none if they paid me for forgoing my PTO every year. I need the money to pay for my extra principal payments. More importantly i study for certs at work so it's not like my time is wasted sitting in the office.
Anonymous No.105985959 >>105987253
>>105983500
UPDATE post SET name = "gay" WHERE thread_no = 105979457;
Anonymous No.105986196
>>105982171
cloud is bloatshit
Anonymous No.105986236
>>105985702
I'm also a contractor
They said it was contract to hire but they refuse to hire me direct, so that was a lie
For that and other reasons I've been looking for a new job so I only take time off for interviews
Anonymous No.105986291 >>105986346
>>105983500
powershell
Anonymous No.105986331 >>105986346
>>105983500
TWG includes IT but powershell is for jeetshitters.
Anonymous No.105986346 >>105986360 >>105986512 >>105986531 >>105988847
>>105986291
>>105986331
DO WINJEETS REALLY
Anonymous No.105986360
>>105986346
Yes powershit is for faggots.
Anonymous No.105986372 >>105986480
I think white people stink more than jeets or blacks.
Not saying that jeets or blacks doesn't stink, but wypipo definitely stinks more
Anonymous No.105986480
>>105986372
ok, jeet
Anonymous No.105986512
>>105986346
why rf command doesnt work?
Anonymous No.105986529
>>105985171
>>105985320
i am thankful that everyone in my organization is scared of teams and doesnt pull this shit.
Anonymous No.105986531 >>105986582 >>105987286
>>105986346
skill issue
rm -Recurse -Force
Anonymous No.105986582 >>105986600
>>105986531
not enough .NET C# calls this would never work
Anonymous No.105986600 >>105986628
>>105986582
Anonymous No.105986628 >>105986724
>>105986600
>browser inspector editing
kys jeet
Anonymous No.105986692 >>105986711
I'm interviewing for a senior BA role, 10 YoE
These motherfuckers want me to do a "practical assessment", like this is a grad program or something
Anonymous No.105986711
>>105986692
You would be surprised by how many people do not know the basics.
Anonymous No.105986724 >>105986797
>>105986628
melty
Anonymous No.105986748 >>105986781 >>105987094 >>105989982
I realized this years ago but never bothered to do anything about it and keep on living in my own bubble. I think what i need to adress the most is my awful social and communication skills and the lack of basic relationship with other people IN PERSON.

I can wish for getting certs after certs, cranking out leetcode after leetcode, but my body is literally falling apart from arthritis and tendonitis because of decade of chronic stress that i caused myself. Damage from cortisol is very real and it will remove your willingness to just exercise for at least 30 minutes a day. There There are definitely better ways to cope like simply call out a bro and hangout with the guy, but instead i run away to PMO, youtube, and video games every time. I keep thinking my favorite internet animators and music producers are better than my fellow brownoids who can only either think about work or the government. But these fellow brownoids are all i have and they're the ones who can vouch for me and bring me work to do, and thus giving me access to money.

Now I'm getting older. Still no jobs. No skills. My cognitive shot to dust from ChatGPT coddling me every time I vent to it. My wrist, shoulders, and sciatica gets flare up easily when I'm just trying to use my mouse and keyboard, and to sit down.
Anonymous No.105986781 >>105986792
>>105986748

Meant to post this on utwg, my bad
Anonymous No.105986792
>>105986781
>Having a job on TWG
What are you special?
Anonymous No.105986797
>>105986724
i dont see what the best fighting game ever made has to do with this conversation
Anonymous No.105987094
>>105986748
good god you are whiny.
Anonymous No.105987150 >>105987185 >>105987235 >>105987249
had an interview yesterday with a woman with dryed up ovaries and an arm completely tattooed. it was over before it even begun
just recieved rejection email, actually two
why can't i pass more than 25% of my HR interviews?
Anonymous No.105987185 >>105987266
>>105987150

Idk why but I'm always about 100% on the HR screening phase. You just need to drop the autism/friction and act like a sweetie cause that's all women care about.
Anonymous No.105987235 >>105987266
>>105987150
nigga hr interviews are just autism checks, just follow along with the conversation and answer questions when needed.
Anonymous No.105987249 >>105987294
>>105987150
most positions in this market are spoken for before you even interviewed. they just have to pretend they looked a little before hiring someone they know.

network only hiring is going to be how it is for the foreseeable future.
Anonymous No.105987253
>>105985959
;WITH CTE AS ( SELECT 'checked' as POST)
SELECT TOP 1 POST ORDER BY 1
Anonymous No.105987266 >>105987344 >>105987394
>>105987185
>>105987235
i literally have no idea what to do differently
i try to be cordial, i smile, i do answer all the questions to the best of my ability, i might be a bit nervous/ fidgety but is that such a dealbreaker?
i just might be slightly autistic, im a bit of a loner, is that so bad?
since when is programming autism free zone
Anonymous No.105987286
>>105986531
Write-Host 'checked';`
Get-Help about_Aliases
Anonymous No.105987294 >>105987378
>>105987249
yeah that's the only plausible option
there's really nothing major that i do wrong, it's just little things here and there that can be fixed but that doesn't account for such a major amount of rejections i get
most of the openings are ghost jobs just so that those HR women have something to fill up the schedule
im gonna reach out to my friend who's a successful team lead, maybe he has some connections for me
Anonymous No.105987314
>dad keeps getting calls weekly from some agency or the other trying to rope him out of retirement because he is like 120 and they were basically speaking to the machine spirit instead of writing code
I'm withering away bros
Anonymous No.105987344 >>105987372 >>105987377 >>105987398
>>105987266
HR are turning programming jobs into giga normie zones, so yes fidgety, nervous, staring and any other cringe behaviour are going to get you dropped.
Anonymous No.105987372 >>105987394 >>105987408
>>105987344
how is that fair and normal? Isn't the most important factor competence? If im introverted how does that hurt my ability to get the job done?
Where the hell am i supposed to look while she talks?
Women in the workforce was a mistake
Anonymous No.105987377
>>105987344
>Man who likes programming
>Man who likes technology
>Man who likes working towards bigger projects
ICK!!!!
Anonymous No.105987378
>>105987294
unless you have an exact match in their stack whoever interviews better is going to end up going forward in the chance its not an internal or network hire.

the market just has multiple times more workers than available positions right now. 40% of jobs are held by immigrants right now too so there is a lot of h1b fraud going on.
Anonymous No.105987394
>>105987266
>>105987372
>i might be a bit nervous/ fidgety but is that such a dealbreaker?
nta but, if you do not offset your autism with something, you're cooked, it's simple as that. Have you proven that despite your autism, you're more competent than other interviewees?
Anonymous No.105987398
>>105987344

Which is hilarious cause their standards for their offshore and visajeets are the polar opposite. We want em AUTISTIC, we want em BORDERLINE ILLITERATE
Anonymous No.105987408 >>105987434 >>105987445
>>105987372
if you are a bad communicator it actually does effect how you do your job. being bad with people is one of the worst traits you can have in this life no matter how smart think you are.
programming was supposed to be our refuge but its ruined now.
Anonymous No.105987434 >>105987466
>>105987408
>programming was supposed to be our refuge
programming is literally talking to a computer and even if you dont like that analogy, computers and software are mere tools so there has always been the need to meet with clients to see what those tools are going to be used for and how
Anonymous No.105987445 >>105987471
>>105987408
im not a bad communicator, work related stuff i comunicate clearly, on time, and without issues. i know how to communicate problems with codebase or issues and questions
it's just that im a loner and pretty shy person so im nervous with new people and i still didn't get used to interviewing
Anonymous No.105987455 >>105987713 >>105987779
Hello guys is this the blogposting thread for IT slaves?
Anonymous No.105987466 >>105987571
>>105987434

Hypothetically it's supposed to be the manager and team lead that interface with clients or the product side. You aren't supposed to distract your engineers with those discussions, just create feature work and feed it to them.

These days companies hire token white engineers that also serve as the jack of all trades so they have to meet with clients and hide away the fact the entire engineering team is retarded jeets
Anonymous No.105987471 >>105987524
>>105987445
luckily you can work on that you just need to expose yourself to new people (if you have to ask go to bars) until you're numbed / no longer feel nervous around new people. It will suck having to initiate conversations with strangers but its hell of a lot better than being socially stunted for the rest of your life.
Anonymous No.105987475
>>105984882
idk, i keep waiting for it
Anonymous No.105987506 >>105987525
I work 70 hr weeks and I make 35k€ pre tax and 24k€ post tax. That's not so bad because it's a PhD position.
But my future after I graduate is truly grim.
If I don't get a US VISA, I'm just going to quit and live off neetbux.
Anonymous No.105987524 >>105987547
>>105987471
i dont feel like im socially stunted, IRL i have no issues talking to someone new, it's just that in interviews i get nervous cause i feel like that's something that's important and i wanna make a good impression, cause i feel like they are gonna judge me in a bad way( which they do) and i know every little (percievably) bad thing i do is a dealbreaker so i get nervous( rightfully so) i dont know why is it such a dealbreaker that im nervous on the interview, am i not supposed to be nervous on interviews?
i just wanna be treated like a human being, not like a disposable useful machine, there's no truly important part of the interview that i do bad, it's just that they don't like the person that i truly am
Anonymous No.105987525 >>105987605
>>105987506
>not so bad because it's a PhD position.
Anonymous No.105987547 >>105987612
>>105987524
>>i just wanna be treated like a human being, not like a disposable useful machine

too bad. take some sort of anxiolytic before you interview. a lot of people do stuff like that.
Anonymous No.105987571 >>105987598
>>105987466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcIMIyQnOso
Anonymous No.105987598
>>105987571
Me NOC tech IRL every single day.
Anonymous No.105987605 >>105987613 >>105987803
>>105987525
Well in Shitrope my hope was to become a codemonkey for Lidl Group or get a PhD and hopefully get to do some cool shit that I can eventually use to impress some American company enough to sponsor my VISA.
Anonymous No.105987612
>>105987547
what do you mean too bad? that's how its supposed to be. i can't work in a company in which i dont have basic human-to- human respect. either i will find company in which i have that or i won't work. no way im gonna bend the knee and become something that im not just so that HR women like me. It's something much more important than job that i have or dont have
Anonymous No.105987613
>>105987605
Consider shitco aka Cisco they are desperate for programmers since they buy out companies from every fucking niche out there.
Anonymous No.105987636
>>105981758
It's a NATO map if you haven't realized. If people of these countries can form the most formidable defense pact on earth, they can put together anything.
Any country that joins NATO is considered white in my book.
Anonymous No.105987673 >>105987687
>haven't had lunch yet
>need to take a shit also
>still stuck i meetings
Anonymous No.105987687 >>105987715
>>105987673
>Shit pants
>Everyone else shits pants for solidarity
>So hecking valid >'"V""<
Anonymous No.105987713 >>105987786
why do people equate the tech jobs situation in the US with the same in other countries? I'd guess that due to trump policies, things are much better outside of the US. I myself have been getting offers as of late.
I'm not a dev though, so I could be wrong
t.south american

>>105987455
yes it is. that's what generals are for, right?
Anonymous No.105987715 >>105987730 >>105989909
>>105987687
>>So hecking valid >'"V""<
why are queer fetishes always so abominable?
Straight people are like
>feet
>belly button
>etc
while faggots enjoy literal shit?? Is this a worm thing?
Anonymous No.105987730
>>105987715
Parasites, mental illness is not everything. The main fetish draw for faggots is humiliation. Women want domination but not so much that it destroys their individual identity. Faggots want to destroy their entire reality.
Anonymous No.105987779
>>105987455
hell yeah brother
Anonymous No.105987786 >>105988152
>>105987713
Mostly yes, blogposts with a umbrella word as topic.
I like int generals.
Also, how can I fuck my coworkers that plainly avoid work and state they are busy when its obviously fake? Fuck meaning like, I am sick of diong their assistance to customers or w/e they dont feel like doing
Anonymous No.105987803 >>105987810
>>105987605
American companies don't want to hire Americans, why would they want to hire a European? A thirdie isn't going to complain about work and demand 50 days of PTO
Anonymous No.105987810
>>105987803
There are legal reasons why you might want to hire a euroshart over an amerilard. Compared to complete outsourcing. Its a weird legal system for government needs in the US.
Anonymous No.105988136 >>105988246
gttw
gttw
gttw
gttw
Anonymous No.105988152 >>105988176
>>105987786
>Also, how can I fuck my coworkers that plainly avoid work and state they are busy when its obviously fake?
collect evidence, tell your bosses

>assistance to customers
you don't seem to belong here?
Anonymous No.105988176 >>105988184
>>105988152
I do both code and assistance on proprietary software?
Anonymous No.105988184
>>105988176
okay? good for you?
Anonymous No.105988214 >>105988406
Hey could really use some help here, fucking hard to find anything online but I've been administrating/being the product owner for a couple of SaaS application and I've been thrown into this without any training and I'm struggling finding the best practice in testing deploying and all that jazz and the proper procedures. Anyone have any good resources to take a look at? So many books are related to actual development and not saas and a lot wouldn't really apply to me.
Anonymous No.105988246
>>105988136
GTAB
Anonymous No.105988337
>Pass resume screening
>Pass short screen with first recruiter
>Pass first formal technical interview
>Only step left is the four hour loop
>Recruiter responsible for setting that up won’t respond to my emails
Is it over?
Anonymous No.105988382 >>105988704
Good news!
https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/21/replit_saastr_vibe_coding_incident/
This AI will be posting in /utwg/ soon! Coders stay strong! AI fad will kill itself!
Anonymous No.105988406 >>105988424
BARRY
HELP ME BARRY
SAVE ME BARRY
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>105988214
Best practices are vibe coding as much as possible and pouring buckets of salt water into any hardware you have access to
Anonymous No.105988424 >>105988427 >>105988460
>>105988406
I'm talking more business related on how to best practice agile and using Jira/Confluence and all that stuff. although honestly salt water and dumping onto everything does feel inticing.
Anonymous No.105988427
>>105988424
>how to best practice agile
I just told you how
Anonymous No.105988460 >>105988494
>>105988424
do the same but consider your MBA meme slave masters as being also hardware
Anonymous No.105988494
>>105988460
There's better methods for MBAs
Anonymous No.105988495
>clock in at 5pm
>check the logs
>everything good
>go on 4chan
>clock out at 6pm
I'd like to see AI replace this.
Anonymous No.105988544
>projects get paused for two months
>now they're all live at the same time because VP is getting huffy and puffy about wanting changes
how do I cope with this?
Anonymous No.105988561 >>105988704 >>105988736
this is who will get your job

https://x.com/still_boneless/status/1947678554625610026
Anonymous No.105988572
>start looking for new job a few weeks ago
>get PIPd last week
well, thats a sign i guess, requirements look easy to pass but i feel like theyre only doing this because they want more of us to quit
Anonymous No.105988683
>Walk into work
>Check emails
>Do bullshit training
>Oh shit forgot to do work
>Login to pc
>Work for 30 minutes total throughout the day
>Coworker bullshits about his weekend and spends the next 2 hours on the toilet due to his high fiber diet
>Other coworker brings in snacks for everyone
>Coworker drinks 2 pots of coffee before 11am eats no food
>Bullshit total of 9 hours out of 10 for the normal work day and work only 2 hours total during busy days

Dam i guess i am lucky
Anonymous No.105988695
>>105979457 (OP)
I have better technical skills than my manager. He has no concept of pure functions, oop, python versions, enums, et al and shits out smelly scripts.

Other differences? He guzzles the fool-aids, and I will sleep in until noon. He tries to make jokes and it's mega cringe, and I will get people to laugh or smile.
Anonymous No.105988704 >>105988776
>>105988382
love the comments. that's how we know LLMs won't replace IT staff anytime soon. only the most retarded "coders" will get replaced. but again, the question of the chicken vs egg comes: if there won't be juniors anymore, then how will there be seniors in the future?

>>105988561
I want a fruity career too, Saar
Anonymous No.105988736 >>105988786 >>105988809
>>105988561
>comments
Xitter must be over 90% bots at this point
Does Musk like it this way or does he not know?
Anonymous No.105988737 >>105988750 >>105988810
Thinking about going to the gym from 1-2 today. Today is super slow, I got 3 tickets, will be done with all of them before noon
Anonymous No.105988750
>>105988737
>going outside at 1pm
how's living in antarctica treating you, bud?
Anonymous No.105988770
>>105982956
I have done exactly 0 (ZERO) commits outside of work since they hired me 6 years ago.
Anonymous No.105988776
>>105988704
>if there won't be juniors anymore, then how will there be seniors in the future?
Once the bubble pops and the stock prices tank the survivors will be forced to hire everyone back and tech workers will live the good life again
Just don't get caught holding the bag, I've started reducing my FAANG holdings already
Anonymous No.105988783
IBM had a 100% participation required "challenge" where everyone had to submit ideas for how an AI Agent could make their job "easier" (aka how it could replace them)

it's so over bros
Anonymous No.105988786
>>105988736
Bots = money from adverts. It's why lolcows like pirate software rose in the ranks on youtube by riding its algorithm. Night media stars like Asmon/Hasan are also in the same boat. They exchange between 20-60% of the revenue with the company for 1-2 years of dedicated training/grooming to become these big stars.

Shitter only got rid of its own bots/algo for promotions but never bothered with external ones since adverts would leave entirely if they did not exist.
Anonymous No.105988809
>>105988736
>Does Musk like it this way or does he not know?
he literally introduced an AI bot that auto-comments on random people's posts. wtf do you think
Anonymous No.105988810 >>105989094
>>105988737
Boss kept pushing this proactivity shit so I got some gear at home and now I just work out on the clock.
Anonymous No.105988847
>>105986346
>trying to use linux commands in powershell
Do you try using c# formatting when writing python, you absolute fuckwit?
Anonymous No.105989094
>>105988810
Yeah I’m not a dyel, I require serious equipment not some 10 lb dumbbell like a Pajeet/woman
Anonymous No.105989110 >>105989816 >>105989909
the real jobs are at AI start-ups and those can't afford to hire jeets

what the fuck are you waiting for? OpenAI/Anthropic are right there and hiring like crazy
Anonymous No.105989120 >>105989158 >>105989237 >>105989956
I'm a PhD student in AI/ML. Why do I need to do for Meta to pay me $100m/year?
No seriously. What shit do I need to learn?
Anonymous No.105989158
>>105989120
I'm not a PhD student and not into ML, but I know people who work there. If you're going for dev roles, it basically boils down to two things
>can you get the interview
which based on what I know from the little info you provided, this is probably true
>can you avoid getting IQ filtered by the onsite
again, this is probably true. Just do leetcode every day until you've done 300-500 problems in the major common patterns then do Meta-specific questions while you apply.
Anonymous No.105989210
>anal leakage
Anonymous No.105989237
>>105989120
PhD + years of real world experience in machine learning
You and me are on the outside looking in, we were born too late to be the β€œAI experts” getting paid tons of money.
Anonymous No.105989252 >>105989280
>verification not rekuired
Anonymous No.105989280
>>105989252
he's making at least 1m/year for this
Anonymous No.105989737
Turns out that in order to be an AI expert at my company I only needed to know a bit more than the next guy.
Anonymous No.105989816
>>105989110
>OpenAI/Anthropic are right there and hiring like crazy
they're literally both physically far away and figuratively at a level of skill i do not possess
Anonymous No.105989909
>>105987715
>feet
That is not straight, that is abominable. >>105989110
>jobs
Like what, posting fake shit on twitter to make people think "ai" is a thing so some bumblefuck retard gives your startup more investment funds?
Anonymous No.105989941 >>105989951
>give Junior eng a talk three fucking weeks ago
>It's the easiest task on the board
>They drag ass just getting the project set up
>Finally set things to
>Another week to create a shit pr clearly written with AI that they didn't even test to see how it ran
>Leave comments for them to fix
>Another week and now they've fixed the original comment but decided to go bug bashing on shit nobody asked them to do
Fire all juniors. I now understand wanting to replace the idiots with AI. Especially if they're gonna spend a week just to use AI to do it wrong.
Anonymous No.105989951 >>105989995
>>105989941
You actual nigger keep hiring these people. Who's fault is that
Anonymous No.105989956
>>105989120
>Why do I need to do for Meta to pay me $100m/year?
Make a startup and get acquired. Applications are dead. Of course in that space you're competing with hacks like me who just bought a copy of Karpathy's pytorch book.
Anonymous No.105989982
>>105986748
>I can wish for getting certs after certs, cranking out leetcode after leetcode, but my body is literally falling apart from arthritis and tendonitis because of decade of chronic stress that i caused myself.
My body is somehow functioning well because I realized I was beginning to decline in my early 20s so I started supplements and meds. Can really recommend lutein zeaxanthin astaxanthin for eye health.
Anonymous No.105989995 >>105990083
>>105989951
Bitch you think I'm the hiring manager or was in the interview? It would have been a hard no and we should also fire whoever said yes.
Anonymous No.105990054 >>105990068
>Adopt """Agile""" because ???
>Product manager still went to customer and promised features without consulting to see if it was feasible
>Now wants to review how feasible it is
>Just handwaves any blocking points
Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
Anonymous No.105990068
>>105990054
Email this to everyone in the company from a throwaway account

https://sollecitom.github.io/software-product-development-blog/posts/2023/2023-10-21-product-manager-role-is-a-mistake/
Anonymous No.105990083 >>105990126
>>105989995
My company does use HR for hiring.
Senior devs screen resumes, do interviews, everything. We have never had to fire a junior in the 5 years I've been here. And it's not like we only recruit from top schools either. We just keep our our Karen's in the corner where they can't do any real damage and give them something unimportant to dawdle with every few months. Spread the word.
Anonymous No.105990126
>>105990083
*Doesnt
Anonymous No.105990268
I'm feeling optimistic about work and outside of the work.


It's kind of weird and uncanny.
Anonymous No.105990792 >>105990998
I have to move from docker-swarm to kubernetes for a side project because it's just too brittle and too much of a pain in the ass to scale replicas up and down based on any sort of complex logic in the actual codebase. I was using the docker api via portainer as a workaround but it's hacky and shit. All that time spent on getting swarm to work when kubernetes was the very obvious choice cause I'm a retard. Fuck me.
Anonymous No.105990998 >>105991013
>>105990792
>docker-swarm
bro are you serious
Anonymous No.105991007
>>105984215
Where my IT degree chads at?
Anonymous No.105991013
>>105990998
I'd used docker a lot but never dealt with distributed stuff and it seemed easier to just use swarm then having to deal with kubernetes which I'd never touched. What can you do, live and learn and all that shit
Anonymous No.105991286
>>105980277
This is still true. You just went to a meme university, graduated with nothing of note on your resume, and can't solve leetcode mediums. If you're as autistic and white as you SAY you are, then this shouldn't be a problem.
Anonymous No.105991341
>have to fill in doing onboardings because someone went on leave and another left the company
>onboarding one girl and one old (jewish?) man who was a tech retard
>girl was competent and able to follow along with my instructions for our retarded onboarding IT call with some conveluted instructions based on how the company is structured.
>but actually did really well on the call and HR says "man you're so good anon we're going to keep asking you to do this!"
>have actual other work to do
Anonymous No.105991378
Well, it finally happened. I interviewed a fat tranny today. Luckily he flopped pretty badly so it was reasonable to recommend not hiring him.
Anonymous No.105991401
didn't do very well on my interview today. well at least i'm a woman
Anonymous No.105991423
gnu
>>105991418
>>105991418
>>105991418