>millenials thought this was better

>>105985294 (OP)
sovl..

dialup fucking sucked i can't lie

>>105985294 (OP)
it's not that the tech was better, it's that the people using the internet were all computer people instead of vapid phonepigs. Using it required you to have a desktop computer. Google was so good before it went to shit. Social media didn't exist at all, everyone everywhere was taught never to use their real name. It was simultaneously more earnest and less serious, you'd get a warm fuzzy feeling from this amazing new thing. Knowing you had what it took to be there, unlike 98% of the human race, felt good. Facebook and the iphone ruined the internet, once corporations figured out they could sell user information it became a mad dash to squeeze every last bit of info out of a user, which led to things like SEO which is why google is shit now.

but zoomers will insist that javascript is "slow"

It's like growing up in a small comfy town, and then moving to a huge city with millions of people who are all cunts and the insane traffic and everywhere has criminals and cops, the smell of exhaust permeates everything, the buzz of power lines gets louder and louder, engine noises and gunshots ruin your sleep, annoying neighbors bumping shitty music, their fucking kid stomping on your ceiling or kicking your wall, pick your annoyance. If you never knew anything else of course it bothers you less, but we who know what we left behind will always wish we could go back.

The memes are better now though, one good upside to the crowding.

>>105985294 (OP)
retard millenials will literally look at these and go """v..vgh..VGHHH S..S.SOVLLLLLL AAaaAAAA SOVLLL KINO COMFY SOVLLLL"

>>105985294 (OP)
The best thing about old internet was every chat room was full of horny females who would cyber with you if they liked you and even give you personal cam shows, on a regular basis in some cases. You could also talk to them and relate to them on a human level, if you can believe it. I legit feel bad for younger men who didn't get to experience this, but I'm also cursed with the knowledge of what was lost.
>Captcha: MAN0R
What does it mean???

>>105985294 (OP)
It’s more soulful than most of what is on the Internet today but I don’t miss frames or having to wait 30–90 seconds for a page to load

>>105985381
And then the Arab Spring happened which is when governments realized how dangerous the internet is to them which is coincidentally also when the endless doxxing, cp spam and all the modern wonders of the internet started happening en mass but hey best no to think about it :^)

>>105985294 (OP)
It's better by aesthetic and style. No one misses the bad stuff.

>>105985495
>>105985294 (OP)
v..vgh..VGHHH S..S.SOVLLLLLL AAaaAAAA SOVLLL KINO COMFY SOVLLLL

>>105985294 (OP)
goddamn man.... i miss those times

>>105985294 (OP)
It was. Look at the fucking status bar

It tells you exactly what is happening while it is happening and the overall progress

now we dont even have a status bar and what little information we get is worthless

>>105985294 (OP)
You're right. Everything should be a screenshot of another website instead.

shit takes just as long nowadays because you have to load 50MB of react slop to make sure the page scrolls retardedly

Anybody who would say that dialup internet was better is a retard. The internet that existed in those days was better. The number one reason was because you were not on it. When I had broadband internet (sometimes cable sometimes DSL depending on where I lived) in the early 2000s it was a truly glorious time. You weren't there. It was wonderful.

>>105987607
There was nothing wrong with receiving no phone calls Friday nights from 1998-whenever we got cable.
It was slow and gaming was laggy but it was still fun.

>>105987550
This

Also you're looking at it through the lens of "now I get a 10ms ping so 300ms ping wasn't playable" but when you started you only ever knew what a 300ms ping was. 20 or 30FPS was a godsend too.
You've gotten comfortable, old man.

>>105985294 (OP)
THIRTY YEARS OF PROGRESS AND WEBSITES ARE STILL SLOW AS SHIT
I HATE JAVASCRIPT

>>105985381
Corporation wasn't the issue. It was the government. When government began to embed itself into the internet, thats when all the shady stuff happened. Spying, real names requirements, censorship, wef propaganda, castration cult, death cult, etc

>>105987631
Well in my case my school had a T1 line. So I knew what good internet was. The dialup internet we had at home was a joke to me in comparison.

>>105985294 (OP)
Anyone who's actually a millennial doesn't miss this shit, it's all zoomers larping about a "greater" time they weren't even around to experience.

They get so upset when you point it out too and throw a tantrum.

>>105987550
>still loads quicker than azure portal on my gigabit connection
Truly the golden age

>>105985381
it's not that the tech was better, it's that the people using the internet were all first worlders (white)

>>105985294 (OP)
Yes it was better.
Not for what it was (dialup internet and Nutscrape 4 sucked balls), but for what it represented.
The Internet was a place that you sat down at, dialed up your ISP, did your stuff, and then did something else.
It didn't follow you around with stupid notification spam, and kids weren't groomed into becoming trannies on Discord.

Now everything is instant, you aren't sure if the guy on the other end is a bot or a tranny, and everyone has their faces buried in their phones.

>>105985294 (OP)
Well, If you had 128kb-512kb communal internet it was pretty shitty. We had such internet at the beginning shared between something like 30 flats. I remember that it was reasonably fast when we upgraded to a non-shared 1Mb. If we had 100Mb or even 10Mb with the websites of that time everything would be fucking instant.

>>105985294 (OP)
The slow loading sucked, but visually that design was way better than many current sites.

its not that it was better, it's that it was just on the one pc at home. when you went outside there were no distractions, just comfy vibes with your friends and a kodak disposable camera

>>105985294 (OP)
It loads slowly but notice everything loads in a sensible order, instead of the page bouncing up and down as ads pop in and remake the whole page layout.

>>105985294 (OP)
Yes, it was better in every conceivable way except connection speed. Cry harder, zoomtard.

>>105985294 (OP)
Now instead of waiting for images to load I'm waiting for Cloudflare to finish mining crypto and stealing my data

>>105985294 (OP)
the internet was better back then, but i'll never pretend dial-up was soul. it was soul-draining and nobody liked it.

>>105985294 (OP)
Soul

The speed sucked, the community (including the many websites they hosted) was far better.
My internet today is very small, my "people" of dorks relegated to an ever-shrinking corner. In those days, however, I could spend hours searching and find interesting people sharing their love for things. I didn't need to mentally filter 99.9999% of it for my own sanity and enjoyment of life.
The phrase "You had to be there" was never more apt.

>>105985294 (OP)
AHHHH TAKE ME BACK RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!

I don't want to live in this globohomo dystopia.

>>105989113
Was the world less Jewish? I don't get how different it could've been from today.

>>105985294 (OP)
Still loads faster and is more responsive than most websites today.

>>105987760
kys racist

>>105985294 (OP)
They are right in this one doe.

Internet kinda sucked before early 2000s when broadband rolled out.

>>105985294 (OP)
The people were better. Broadband becoming a matter of public policy was a mistake.

Is the problem really just that there's no search engine for nerds and nerd websites? I understand most people, even nerds, just stopped making regular websites. But it's not like it's a struggle to keep normies off your website, they don't even go to websites they only use apps. And all the tools are still there, so what's missing? Other than momentum and knowing just where to go to find other people and things.

>>105985408
only contrarian millennials do that. zoomers get things done

>>105990887
I still remember the shitposting from my old Star Trek forum back in the mid 90s

>>105987760
this, we should have made a separate internet for brown people

>>105985294 (OP)
It was the shit back then, fucking cool because we had nothing before a PC and a dial-up modem, to us it was the future at home. Glad I experienced the whole thing, fuck you Gen Z and Gen Alpha.

>>105985294 (OP)
that was a feature, not a bug
you werent supposed to be hyperconnected to people you never encounter daily irl
gays, furries, and pedos werent supposed to find each other and reinforce their deviancy, they were supposed to be bullied and shamed into conforming with society

>>105991351
Boomers had BBS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI

Modern websites load in about the same time.
Modern programs load slower than on windows 98
We have not progressed at all

>>105991490
That's not true you gay retard

>>105987670
>Corporation wasn't the issue. It was the government
Oh shut up you dumb underaged cunt, that's not true and never was.

>>105991652
You're naive. The ones that hold the monopoly on the gun is your enemy. Not the ones giving free access to services. The ones that hold the gun to your head also holds the gun to the companie's heads. Its why the US is fucked because between the 2 political power, you either get Chairman Mao or Literal Hitler. When either side comes into power, half the country is suffering

>>105985294 (OP)
It's not even that much slower than loading the Youtube homepage these days

>>105985495
>asl
My brother when we were about 14/15, was in those chatrooms. We were honest about our age too. So many people asked to cyber and my brother was in on it. Thing was when he did this ( . )( . ), I thought he was asking for titties. I didn't know he was larping as a girl. I didn't know he was acting like he had titties.

He's a tranny now.
I wonder how many females in those chatrooms were actual females. None of you were the wiser.

I don't miss chatrooms. I miss dedicated fan sites for dragonball z, final fantasy, sonic the hedgehog and whatever else your autistic ass was interested in.

>>105990620
Do you have a rebuttal?

>>105985294 (OP)
The technology wasn't better, but the people were. Kind of like pre-industrial society.

>>105993355
The technology IS worse now because they respect the user less
Everyone who uses tech now is treated like a nigger, including Linux

>>105993373
Linux for Niggers was ahead of its time

>>105987760
as a chilean i do agree the internet should require an IQ lower limit to post

>>105993318
i see all the time reports about millennials having fun and meeting from chatrooms and it does seem the female to male ratio was higher in general and it was friendlier for autistic men in general since it provided them avenues of opportunity that are already patched

>>105985294 (OP)
Fully uncensored and free of mass surveillance.

>>105985294 (OP)
>thought
hah, just compare old 4chins with the new one, you'd rather kys if you knew the difference

>>105985341
I used third party load managers on WinMX just to save me 1.5KiB's from leechers. Rough times.

>>105985294 (OP)
Imagine this but at 1000x the network speed.
(That's basically 4chan)

>>105993382
I fell for the coonbuntu meme, installed it and as soon as I saw that murderous commie shitskin pop up in a video during startup, I uninstalled it and never touched anything linux again.

>>105993611

100 full duplex cheap
1000 half duplex a bit more expensive
whos winning now

>>105985495
Now they do it for money. Simps ruined everything.

>>105987706
We where around to experience the early 2010s when things wheren't totally fucked but it was fleeting. That's where genuine nostalgia comes from. But there's also the "I was born in the wrong generation" zoomers. I feel like this thread is a false flag though.

>>105987670
>government began to embed itself into the internet
Lol you retard the internet was literally built by THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT.

>>105994022
Next you'll the sun is inside the internet because because of super nova from billions of years ago

>>105987650
Imagine getting rid of flash in favor of javascript.

>>105994063
Flash was retarded and a total dumpsterfire. I always clicked on the html version of websites offering both.

>>105994118
I have yet to see javascrpit canvas get near the responsiveness of flash

>>105994176
Not making the case for javascript either, though unlike flash, it does have a few legitimate uses.

>>105985294 (OP)
fucking moron. How could they when they had nothing to compare it to.

>>105994217
Not my business but "thought" alone does not imply "back then".

>>105993382
SOVL

>>105993318
I remember there was some of that but you could usually tell. I think it was much more common for younger girls to larp as adult women or to just use fake pictures. There was also much less risk if you only cybered with girls who had cams, which was already common in IM apps in like 2002.
>>105993387
>it does seem the female to male ratio was higher
It was MUCH higher. Some of the chat rooms I used to frequent in were mostly females, and they were all really friendly and just as terminally online as the males.

>>105985294 (OP)
>>105985381
>>105987607
>>105987550

fucking retvrn
>no JS required
>works on your grandmother's phone
>privacy and tech oriented
>everything you could ever want asides from your gross fucking cp

come back to the sophisticated man's creative playground
cy-x.net

here's the front page of the site from a week ago
they added image attachments today

>>105994242

>>105985294 (OP)
>v..vgh..VGHHH S..S.SOVLLLLLL AAaaAAAA SOVLLL KINO COMFY SOVLLLL

>>105985381
I miss forums. dscord ruined them

>>105993382
Why are you so obsessed with niggers, anon?

>>105994413
The problem with promoting sites like that on 4chan is that everyone here is paranoid of honeypots and glowops, and will instantly assume that any links posted on 4chan are exactly that.

Personally, if I see someone shilling ANYTHING on this board I make a mental note never to use it.

>>105994469
I didn't know that.

If you're able to give me some advice..
What's the best way to promote a site like that to an audience like 4chan, especially /g/? 4get got their start here and so did the Everything project, but I don't know if they're doing anything different.

The site is tailored towards tech and privacy and obviously that should be a topic that /g/ should appreciate quite well.. So what's the secret?

>>105994493
I honestly don't know but good luck if it's not a honeypot and kys if it is, fren.

>>105994242
that's exactly what it implies

>>105985294 (OP)
>internet with only whites
beyond based

>>105993973
>the early 2010s when things wheren't totally fucked but it was fleeting
Kek my sides, the went to shit on September 11th, 2001.

>>105994713
Fair but I mean tech things, like you could still use W7 and websites wherent as bloated.

>>105985294 (OP)
I was fucking under 13yrs old ar ound that time you retarded nigger. Who do you think made these shitty ass websites genx. I am glad its gotten better but the biggest issue is that regular people aren't making personal websites anymore and the ones who do are fucking furries.
>>105985495
also this. also it isn't gone its just you gotta be way more careful now. I've had like load of random 18yr old girls talk to me and im almost fuckin 40.

>>105994548
Not trying to be obtuse, but you can have millenials in 2010 looking back at late 90's internet and thinking they had it better.

>>105994846
"thought this was better" implies they thought this at some point, but not longer think that

>>105994469
>Personally, if I see someone shilling ANYTHING on this board I make a mental note never to use it.
Then you can't be helped, and it's pointless for you to be here.

>>105994466
>shoves niggers in every facet of society, advertisement, games, movies, and workplaces
>le WHY arE yOu ObSeSSeeed!!!111!11!!11!
Hang yourself from a lamp pole, jew

>>105994743
>I was fucking under 13yrs old ar ound that time you retarded nigger.
You were fucking under 13s?

wow its yet another zoomer false nostalgia thread

>>105985294 (OP)
I miss that progress bar at the bottom of the webpage telling you when its done loading... it was pure soul...

>>105994964
You're obsessed with niggers, because of watch too much TV. Got it. Strange reason to be obsessed with av group that didn't even think about you, though. Strange obsession indeed

>>105995292
Only niggers watch tv.

>>105995292
>because of watch too much TV
saaaAAARS please

>>105987760
>muh crackers
Retards like you are exactly why the internet is the way it is right now.

>>105995523
>people who acknowledge that the Internet is for white people are the reason brown people have ruined the Internet
anon pls

>>105994952
I'm here to be redpilled on the apps and OSes that are shit and should be avoided at all costs, and shilling is a good indicator of that.

I had cable in '97
zoomers are retards.

>>105995424
Why are you so obsessed with a group who don't know you exist nor affect you personally nor directly, anon? Is everything okay with you in life? Don't you have people who care about you and listen to you?

>>105994713
There was a delayed effect. Things were still great for a while after 9/11 and peaked around 2003, then slowly got worse until the absolute freefall that started in 2008.

>>105995604
why did millennials ruin the internet?

>>105995562
Some things that are shit aren't shilled at all. Other things that are good have obnoxious fanboys that never shut the fuck up. It's all relative. The best way to make informed decisions is to see how shill tier posters respond to criticism of the things they are shilling. This also helps when dealing with cases of complete faggots with irrational hate of some things who countershill them all day long. Are all their posts getting debunked? Do they have valid concerns or are they here to troll?

>>105985294 (OP)
Anyone who is calling this "soul" is a fucking retard. No, it wasn't good that you had to wait several minutes for a webpage to bull load. No, the giant ads which played sound, spawned dozens of pop-ups on their own, automatically installed malware wasn't good. Webpage design and layouts were ass.

The peak age of the internet was after this when dial-up was dying out, advertisers stopped allowing malware ridden bullshit, and adblockers started coming into being.

Everything started getting shitty again once tech companies started creating internet monopolies, every website required a cookie in order to function, and we went back to giant ass pop-ups of "muh privacy policies" or trying to force adblockers to be turned off. That and paywalled articles, fuck redhat's idea of what a community of support should look like (Wanna know how to fix a problem? Give up your shekels goyim).

>>105995552
Acting like you’re the gatekeeper of the Internet while contributing nothing but whiny posts is a special kind of delusion.

Kys retard

>>105995641
I'm not acting like anything. I just legitimately feel that the Internet was better when it was mostly academic with no social media

>>105995635

>ign64
wow I haven't heard that name in decades

to be fair, outside of videos, there is nothing worth loading on the websites and they're STILL slow ass piss because of all the trackers and ads and whatnot
text-based browser is where it's at

>>105995646
you're correct, ignore brown posters.

>>105985518
>>105987670
>needing conspiracy to overexplain what simple incompetence is capable of

the internet went to shit precisely because it became progressively easier and easier for literally anyone to get online.

>>105985381
this guy starts off correct and this guy >>105987760 is half-right.
The internet was great when it *could only be accessed by high-IQ dedicated people with the motivation to go out of their way to learn computers*. Yes they were mostly white, but a whole flood of dumbfuck balls stupid suburban whitoids were also part of the plague that ruined it.

Few people here are probably old enough to remember how difficult it really was to get online back in the day, when your computer's operating system itself supported no such thing and you needed to acquire third-party PPP/SLIP protocol software.. which naturally you couldn't download because *you weren't online*. So you either had to get it from someone's dialup BBS (which were awesome but beyond the scope of this post) or find a floppy disk somewhere from some underground computer store or a photocopied newsprint software catalog.

>>105995578
Why would you say I'm obsessed? That was a mere observation.

>>105995609
It was a tag team effort between Boomers, Gen X and Millennials. They each lined up to give their real and full names and phone numbers to Facebook and Twitter, which irrevocably severed the line between internet and real life.

BRING BACK THE STATUS BAR

>>105994413
>phoneniggers allowed
almost made it

>>105995255
not just SOVL but INFORMATIVE ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CONNECTION AND WEBPAGE

id love a status bar that showed how many connections the webpage has open across all scripts and shit and requests and stuff

>>105996089
Not really. GenX leans hard into aliases and screennames, zoomers give out their real names now.

>>105985294 (OP)
who here still using the same version of mirc
who here still remember their ICQ number

>>105995635
>you had to wait several minutes for a webpage to bull load.

Most of the websites I ever visited back then loaded rather quickly (less than a minute) as they were basically text with a few links and ornaments here and there. TGP's on the other hand...

>>105996120
>GenX leans hard into aliases and screennames, zoomers give out their real names now.
50 year olds are not using fake names on the internet. leave it to the millennials to keep making retard stuff up

>>105996141
You lost, zoomer. You never created a single thing in your life and you missed out experiencing the era that people did. You were born into a world of bad internet and will never know the joy that came from exploration and innovation.

>>105996146
>zoomer calling me zoomer
you obviously didn't experience anything if you are making things up based on how you THINK things work

>>105996163
You lost, zoomer.

>>105996141
GenX here. I used ip spoofing on usenet, bouncers on irc, multiproxy http lists on the web and a nym.alias account + cipherpunk remailers for centuries before prism, social media and censorship destroyed the internet.

>You lost, zoomer.

>>105996180
>zoomer mental breakdown
Yup, keep going. This is what you are. Thanks for showing the thread.
You created nothing and experienced nothing. Everything good about the internet came from before you were born.

>>105996141
I think it was more an issue of normies vs people like us than it was a generational issue. Normies did those things without even thinking about it, while anyone who had half a brain wanted the internet to stay separate from real life. Normies ruin everything. Just like right now there are a lot of zoomers and even some gen alpha who understand, but people still only judge their generations by the normies amongst them.

>Yup, keep going. This is what you are. Thanks for showing the thread.
>You created nothing and experienced nothing. Everything good about the internet came from before you were born.

both of you are zoomers and im an adult and i have a job you wouldn't get it because you two are children zoomies zoomies

>>105996204
it's hard not to generalize a generation when pretty much everything became worse after a certain generation became old enough to influence it. no, zoomers were not old enough to ruin the internet despite what the soilennials on /g/ make themselves believe

>>105996222
I grew up in the dialup BBS era. There's definitely something utterly broken and bizarre about the zoomer mentality that they save repulsive pictures on their hard drive, fawn over them, and post them drooling whenever they lose an argument. Unironically how do people end up in a hole like this?

>>105996146
Millennials created transgenderism everywhere. That's their contribution to the internet.
>>105996170
You will never be a woman.

>>105996224
I didn't say zoomers "ruined" the internet, I specifically said they were born into it already braindead and created nothing, achieved nothing, and experienced nothing. They have no ability to think or imagine beyond whatever anxiety-driven nightmares motivate them.

>>105996317
Case in point, look at this random psychotic flailing. It loses an "argument" and all it can do is scream ridiculous nonsense about being surrounded by trannies.

>>105996194
>Everything good about the internet came from before you were born.
Everything wrong with the internet was embraced by millenials. Suck my dick.

>>105996326
you have ZDS

>>105996326
>I specifically said they were born into it already braindead and created nothing, achieved nothing, and experienced nothing.
Who made it braindead? Millennishits. Well, normies of that generation. It's jusy not a generation issue.
>They have no ability to think or imagine beyond whatever anxiety-driven nightmares motivate them.
Schizobabble that says nothing of substance at all.
>look at this random psychotic flailing. It loses an "argument"
What "argument" did we have? Where? You really should take your meds dude.
>scream ridiculous nonsense about being surrounded by trannies.
So you literally are a tranny haahah. 41% now.

>>105994413
>retarded Reddit rules
You should buy an ad, on Reddit

>>105994423
>here's the front page of the site from a week ago
The site shows a timestamp and it is from yesterday

>>105996317
Tranny came into being during the late 2010's, during the tumblrina ages. Zoomer territory.

>>105996494
When it was 2010, zoomers were like 20 at most dude.

>>105996914
And if you mean 2018's or so, well I said "at most", normal for 2010 was 12 y.o. or less. So for majority of zoomers you get a bunch of sheltered randos who rarely breached 21 years of their life as a result. An extremely potent force for purposefully pushing political agenda with enough influence, power and experience to actually shove it down everyone's throat for suuuuuuure. Yeah right. Take meds.

>>105996494
>Tranny came into being during the late 2010's
It was starting in the mid 10s.
>during the tumblrina ages.
Tumblr was done by like 2017.
>Zoomer territory.
lol

>>105985294 (OP)
The internet was a better place to be when we had to actively wait for anything at all to happen.

>>105997316
>>Tranny came into being during the late 2010's
>It was starting in the mid 10s.
A bit earlier. Remember, 'troon' comes from 'goon', which was a term applied to trannie on the website somethingawful.com.
The trans stuff is definitely a psyop though.

It goes without saying (I hope) but what ruined everything was smartphones. That enabled the completely computer illiterate to use the internet outside of walled gardens like AOL and Compuserve.

>>105985408
I've never met a zoomer who gives a single fuck about any programming language or its usage, including JavaScript. You could say "HTML" to a zoomer and they'd think you're a coding genius just by merely uttering the words.

>t. 24 yr old zoomer who was the one making suggestions and redirecting learing material to superior learning resources for the very short lived and nearly empty coding club in middle school

>>105985294 (OP)
the design was better, the technology sucked.

now google takes up 500 megabites to browse a website for a few minutes, while back then it was kilobytes.
just for this page alone, its already 70 megabytes.

so yes, it was better, fuck you.

>>105985450
obviously, newton was explaining how staying inside converts you into gay, not, "being outside", as you've so fallaciously tried to exert.

being outside converts the gay waves into straight waves, and removes the gay.
while staying indoors compels the strait waves that make their way inside to skew and bend, turning them gay.

from this we can expand the theory outward towards civilization.
a civilized society will always create gays, because, in order to survive you must bend and skew the truth, otherwise you may end up getting sodomized by the fags there in.
but in the uncivilized wilderness, the only way to survive is to be a straight shooter, otherwise you'll be destroyed.

so you see, being in, is gay, while going out, is straight.
which is why the lefties are begging you to go out and touch grass (girl ass), rather than staying in and polishing that brass (bro ass)

>>105993387
>as a chilean i
please don't start your posts like you are back on reddit
we DON'T fucking need to know who you are
you are anonymous, you fuckhead, got that?
nobody fucking cares, do not evade the guise of the anon by sticking out
your nationality is a fuck worth
we genuine don't care and don't want to learn who you are, anon

>>105991351
>JP.png
Most real post in the thread. Please take me back to that time.

>>105985381
>the people using the internet were all computer people
At least until Facebook opened registration to everyone and their mom. Honestly, Facebook and Twitter were the worst things to happen to the Internet because it really popularized the Internet for normies.

>>105997379
So what? My internet speed is 23000x faster than back then.

>>105997771
>1998: websites take 10 seconds to load
>2025: 20,000x faster connection, websites take 5 seconds to load
at least it doesn't take a week to download a dvd rip now

>>105985294 (OP)
I am old enough to have used BBSes and other green screen crap before the web was even invented
what boggles me is that my connection is probably a hundred thousand times faster and I have ten thousand times the amount of RAM and cpu cycles to use on web browsing as I used on those ancient dial up services. and still the old stuff felt faster and better
why do i need to download several million characters of javaslop whenever I refresh a page it's disgusting

>>105987706
I'm 35 and I was online in 1999. That puts me in the top 1% of internet users in terms of lifetime experience. I am an elder tree, bark as thick as iron. I've seen it all with deep, sunken eyes. You're nothing to me. You're a toddler learning to walk with your <10 years of experience online. You can never catch up. I miss the old internet. RIP Good Internet 1990's-2005 beloved son and father.

I can't imagine trying to piece together the modern state of things without the experience of hindsight and knowing how it got to be this way. May god have mercy on all your newfag souls

>>105985294 (OP)
You will never get the rush of loading old internet.
Every morsel of information was precious, every picture a treasure, every site an adventure.
It was low quality but it was rewarding to browse.
New internet is slop. Miles of centralized, censored slop.

>>105990522
Imagine the internet before people figured out how to monetize everything. The majority of webpages had no subscription option, there was no Amazon Prime, there was no Youtube Premium. The majority of websites existed to fulfil a purpose outside of the profit incentive. Science was readily available. EVERY MAJOR NEWS SOUCE (BBC, ABC, CNN etc) website was FREE. NO PAYWALLS. They just ran banner ads and were happy to get traffic and grow their readership. Now, your worthless eyeballs are taken for granted and they want you to pay monthly to read propaganda.

in brief, yes, there wasn't a hint of jewishness to be found

>>105985294 (OP)
it was better. had to be there, zoomie.

>>105993382
Was that last line that got me; Documentation by niggers, for niggers

It was a better time indeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHRRhUKaWes

>>105985294 (OP)
dialup sucked and cost way too much money though it was good for emergencies
broadband felt liberating

>>105996079
Why are niggers the first thing that pops in your head?

I'm so fucking tired of this board. Groundhog day all day every day. AI slop everywhere.

t. millennial

>>105996494
zoomers have no idea what a tumblr is, soilennial

>>105991351
Kids don't even know smoking a bunch of weed and going to the movie theater to see Grandma's Boy.

>>105998051
35 and talks like a 80 year old on facebook

>>105998051
I’m killing myself after reading this, RIP good me.

>>105998051
good internet my ass, kill yourself and enjoy your afterlife.

>>105998051
i murdered good internet beloved son and father, you are next.

boomer ass thread

>>105997350
very few middle schoolers are proactive enough to do engage in technical stuff like a coding club. i don't remember anyone talking about their future careers until maybe the end of high school. i wish our society did invest in this, but it's only le bad commie countries care about education i guess

>>105985294 (OP)
This thread shows how hard millennials are setting themselves up to be as hated as boomers, if not even more so. The same self-absorbed and narcissistic generation who pushed facebook, reddit, onlyfans and tinder into positions of power over western society are now blaming the zoomers who had no control over any of those things. The backlash will be immense.
>t. gen x

>>105985294 (OP)

I never had this issue. We got internet I think in 1997, a bit late but my family didn't want dialup. We lived just by the headquarters of the first national cable company so when they started offering connections (quite cheaply too) we jumped on it. It was cable so I think it begun at 256K but got bumped to 512K quite fast. At the time there was really nothing to saturate a 256K connection, everything loaded as fast as it could on a 133Mhz processor. When I visited my friends who had internet too, most of the time they had dialup and I never really quite understood back then why the fuck can nobody use the phone when the internet connection was open. Things changed so fast, it felt like within a year everyone locally dropped dial up connections and had cable.

Remember searching " how to make a bomb" in the 90s? Good times

>>106003341
I remember hearing about Anarchist's Cookbook and it sounded cool but like 80% of it was about phone phreaking.

>>106002988
i haven't used any of those services. also isn't onlyfans quite new?
but sure, some will be

>>106003449
I still have it and that's not the case at all. Maybe you got an early draft.

>>106003613
A lot of stuff was removed from the versions that were later published as actual books.

>>106003647
That must be it.

>>106002988
>some millennials think the internet was better before <the things you mentioned>
>actually you guys are responsible for those things
yea there's nothing i hate more than other millennials to be honest

>>105985294 (OP)
I ran that on a toshiba portige with just tens of megabytes of ram and an 8 hour battery life. It was fucking great.

Also look at the CUA UI: menu bar at the top full of commands, visible scroll bars, statusbar that TELLS YOU WHAT'S GOING ON. All the embossed/debossed controls so you can tell them apart. Great overlapping window manager.

Modern software is garbage, only the network and hardware has improved.

>>106002988
>who pushed facebook,
Boomers
>reddit,
Ok yeah that was us.
>onlyfans and tinder
Those are consequences of feminism which was boomers/gen x. That was forced on us too.

>>106003764
Millennials were the first adopters of Facebook, which was also made by a millennial. Boomers came later. Maybe you're too young to remember that.

>>105985381
The iPhone was eternal September but for Millennials.

>>106003777
>Maybe you're too young to remember that
Well I'm a Millennial (or Zillenial I guess but I think that's retarded) and only ever remember boomers using it. My mom made me get an account as soon as I turned 13 and I thought it was dumb even then.

>>106003777
Millennials also abandoned Facebook once the boomers showed up. Social media fragmented along generational lines. The only reason I still have a Facebook is to talk to my mom.

>>105995576
what were speeds like in 97

>>106004531
NTA but I remember going to Lego.com in y2k on cable and never really noticed the loading. Or at least it didn't take much longer than waiting for local stuff like actually starting NetScape (which took a good minute IIRC.)

>>106003683
>yea there's nothing i hate more than other millennials to be honest
The worst are millennial women. They're just incredible bitches. Zoomer women are borderline insane but at least they're friendly.

>>106003785
damn that's a good one

>>105998051
My dad literally worked for US Robotics and my family had broadband in the 90s before I even knew how to read.

>>106004531
56 kbps was advertised but most times my connections maxed out at around 33 kbps. Most websites were plain html at the time which loaded within a few seconds, but you still had to wait for the images to finish loading. Some sites were a lot worse about image sizes.

>>105985294 (OP)
less time that takes GPToddlers to generate an image.

>>106004651
Shit I'm retarded I didn't see that this was about cable.
The point still stands that dialup was pretty capable at that time.

>>106003683
honestly all the problems come from millennial women desu

>>106004637
>>106004721
i don't disagree

>zoomers
>millennials
>"fuck normalfags"

>>105985294 (OP)
Only contrarian autistic millenials think that was better than what we have today.

Siiiiiip

>>105985294 (OP)
back when third worlders had no access to the internet...

>>105998051
>35 and still here

shit's still the same
gigabit internet and websites all still slow as shit
gee maybe i should buy a 4chan pass so i get to have the privilege of posting here without needing a captcha
bravo 4chan on being the only site on the entire internet that works this way

>>106005180
Good goy.

>>105985294 (OP)
i am a millenial and i hate dial up and old internet
i like current internet

i hate nostalgia fags

This thread reminds me of those superhero fans who hate the movies because they attract people who don't care for comics. MUH SEKRIT CLUB and such.

Extreme bandwidth limitations = extreme evolutionary pressure selecting for fittest = much higher quality content = virginal consumer experience has a very high % chance for pleasure + influenced into becoming a high quality producer

No bandwidth limit = no evolutionary pressure = seas of slop pollution interspersed with tiny islands of high quality = virginal consumer experience has a very high % chance for displeasure + corruption into becoming a low quality producer

It is a common limitation of a species that does not accelerate each individuals capacity in equivalent pace to their technology. If the current internet were fully populated with superhumans, it would be superior to the past, but because everyone is just about the same as they ever were, imagination has a finite output per year, thus entertainment starvation.

>>106005167
you will be, too.
t. also 35, came here when i was 15

dialup still exists, you can sign up for it right now
if you want to go even more oldschool back to bbs, you can hook your computer up to ham radio

>>106003341
Very well
>lunch table 1999, 8th grade
>we're all talking about what happened on WWF Raw and WCW Nitro last night
>subject changes to Columbine shooting since it was recent news
>Tell friends I found instructions on building bombs and fireworks on the web over the weekend
>point out how easy it would be to rig up bombs to collapse roof of lunch room and kill us all
>some fag at the table snitches or some fag at the next table over hears and snitches
>get pulled out of class and threatened with arrest
>Dad gets called and has to leave work
>he asks them if they really think I'd bomb a fucking middle school
>"Nah anon is a good boy he wouldn't do nuffin"
>Dad threatens to sue school is they don't fuck off
>They say if he tries it they'll have me arrested for thought crime or something
>get suspended for a week

Good times.

>>105996332
lol fuck no. absolutely fucking delusional. it was zoomers and baby boomers who jumped onto tik SPECIALLY gen Xers. I swear people don't pay attention to the X'ers

>>106005190
i agree with you. I do like a lot of the old internet though. I wish we still had communities that we could still be some what secret kinda like how 4chan used to be and still be popular among non-normie types though. I miss that a lot.

>>105998051
>>106005167
>>106005237
im almost 40 and ill be coming here until i am fucking dead. I wish other millennials stayed and posted more. I know you gotta work but give me a fucking break I bet those shitheads do nothing all day at the computer.

>>106002988
>xcuck acting sanctimonious despite being the shitstain of a generation that created Joss Whedon
You're just lucky you're so utterly irrelevant, or you'd be just as hated.

>>106003683
>>106002988
I think its funny how Gen X tries to blame millennials when it was GenX who has had the most adult time with all these technologies and use them to post cringe shit. Look at all the shows FRIENDS was a gen x show same with big bang theory all that shit was Xer. A lot of the cringe shit on tiktok that zoomers like to point as millennial cringe is actually gen x women.

>>106005190
>i like current internet
Yeah it's got 24 hour crypto exchanges *with highly leveraged derivatives*, hookers that let you video call to jerk off whenever you want, and of course AI. You can even do it all at the same time. Try doing *that* on Windows 95.

>>106005641
>FRIENDS was a gen x show
Anyone who unironically likes that show should lose the right to vote and post online.

>>106005657
Xers always try to hide behind "ah we are so emo and indifferent blah" but they are the cringe a long with baby boomers. Zoomers try to say shit like BLm was millennial but the fucking thing is blm got started directly because of zoomers on tiktok.

Millennials are fratured generation and even if we want to discuss generations now. In all honesty I think generations these terms are absolutely meaningless because after 2001-05ish we've had no real culture difference between generations. So there is no real "style" cultural difference. So alpha, zoomers, and millennial are all just one huge group. Even the fucking memes and terms are all millennial basically.

>>105985488
i miss those games

Confess, grandpa: what you most miss from those days was that it was easier to find 'pizza.

>>106005744
>Millennials are fratured generation and even if we want to discuss generations now. In all honesty I think generations these terms are absolutely meaningless because after 2001-05ish we've had no real culture difference between generations.
Also the high migration means a lot of the things people say about younger generations are really about 1st/2nd gen immigrants that are swamping our countries since the white population is a plurality among them often.

>>106005646
That's not what the internet is for you degenerate.

>>106004894
Yes, I don't mind good early zoomers. Many of them were pre-2000.

>>105985294 (OP)
dialup fucking sucked I remember have to take a nap on computer room sofa having to wait for shit to load I do not miss that

>>105985294 (OP)
millenials are stupid
t. boomhower

>>105985381
This and before everything on the internet was about trying to make money. People use to create for the shear joy of it and share it with others freely because they want to share it

>>105985495
No one will believe you, but it's true. The girls often went online to socialize, and since this was pre-social media...all there was were chatrooms.
Of course, some percentage of them might have been catfishing males.
But people would get to know each other in these communities quite well over time, and actually bond and have real human connection on this big incredibly novel thing that everyone loved. And there were definitely real women.
Once digital cameras(plus scanners to a lesser degree) became common, it was much easier to prove that fact as well.
No one is going to really understand what was lost unless you were there...
One thing I will say is that we had so much 'techno-optimism' at the time that was in retrospect horribly naive and even stupid given how things went.

>>106005646
>Try doing *that* on Windows 95.

>Yeah it's got 24 hour crypto exchanges *with highly leveraged derivatives*
making money (real cash money) was still quite trivial
>hookers that let you video call to jerk off whenever you want
don't care but glory holes were still a thing among other sexual activities
>and of course AI
doesn't exist

>>105987704
I was always jealous and curious about all the T1 and T3 people.
A friend actually had ISDN because his dad needed it for his business or something. That was decent for the time.
Broadband was pretty nice when it came. The filesharing...

>>105990522
>I don't get how different it could've been from today.
It was the inverse of today in almost every way.
The only time it got kind of aids is when grandma downloaded 6 toolbars and that short period where pop-up ads became a thing before everyone blocked them.

>>105987670
stfu zoomer /pol/tard, you weren't there abba have no idea what you're talking about

>>105987706
You're so utterly and completely wrong.
I'd wager 99% of people who actually experienced the internet in the 90s and early 2000s even have extremely fond memories of it.

>>106007023
I tried Napster and later XDCC bots on the school's T1 line. It was like a glimpse into the future. A better future where all the media I could ever want was free and I never needed to buy a CD, DVD, or VHS tape again. It only took a year until I was living with my mom instead of my dad and we had cable internet installed in our house. I knew exactly what to do with it too.

>>105990827
It didn't.
Text was just more important.
There were some poorly designed websites that took way too long to load, but you still had traditional old school chatrooms, usenet, IRC, ICQ etc.
Things were actually improving for a while, and that was constantly exciting. Then some sort of peak happened in the 2000s and things started going downhill.
Broadband was nice though.

>>105991388
Yeah, but that was local unless you were willing to pay long distance fees. A lot of the people(users and/or sysops) would know each other in real life or meetup and such. I tried a few.
Not quite the same as when the internet was unleashed and you had the whole "world"(not really, but it was the connected world at the time) at your fingertips.

>>105985518
The terrorism on USA was a good thing, they got a taste of their own medicine for once. But it has nothing to do with the internet. The normies happened because some cuck wanted to sell it to everyone.

>>106007112
Well in the context of the piracy scene toll fraud dominated. Files spread across continents through theft of long distance and international service. The most obvious targets were the "extenders" set up by companies like AT&T and MCI. They were mostly irrelevant for regular people at that point after the AT&T breakup but they still were important for business customers to be able to make calls while traveling. The BBSfags of the day would call up these extenders and brute force "wardial" the "codes" (basically PIN numbers) then use them to call all over the world without paying. BBSes welcomed these kinds of callers and treated them differently than local ones with special perks to attract them.

>this is not first hand knowledge I'm just somewhat obsessed with the history of piracy and the scene

>>105985294 (OP)
The zoomer cannot comprehend anything but souless slop and brainrot.

>>105994382
>It was MUCH higher. Some of the chat rooms I used to frequent in were mostly females, and they were all really friendly and just as terminally online as the males.
Yes. All the women would tend to congregate in chatrooms and such. So there was a much higher concentration.
A lot of men would be gaming playing Quake, Diablo 1 on OG Battle.net, Ultima Online(although some girls played this one) etc, so there was a bit of a bias towards chatrooms and women, which tended to be pretty friendly and polite.

>>106007134
I have been in chat rooms with females present in my youth and chatted them up. But I was mostly hanging out on EFNet and it was a total sausage fest, still is to this day.

>>105995576
>zoomers are retards.
They're retarded because instead of trying to cope and pretend the world wasn't a VASTLY better place than it is now, they should be absolutely furious at what was taken from them.
And even the ones who think they understand that, still can't possibly understand without having experienced the time firsthand. But they should be mad either way.

>>106007165
Trying to tell them is pointless. They have been indoctrinated already. They know no other way to live. For us it's optional.

>>105995635
You must have missed many years of where none that shit actually existed(barring the slow loading overloaded image based websites), and happened to have the unfortunate timing of having that awkward transitional period be your introduction and first impression of the internet. Before basic shit like pop-up blockers took care of all of that.
Malware was almost always extremely easy to avoid, save for the rare case of an actual worm or something similar.

>>105996120
I used mirc for basically ever. I don't even remember using another client.
I should remember by ICQ number, but I don't. I remember people had 6 digit numbers and I think I had something like 10xxxxx and just barely missed out on having a good one.
>>105996141
The ones who were actually online in 90s probably are.
You might be confused because 80-90% of them got truly online long after that, probably when facebook became a thing.
Just 'using email' doesn't count.

>>106005167
Remember, you're here forever.

>>106003647
Yeah, the versions on BBSs were like:
>this is how you make napalm
>this is how you make meth
>this is how you get free phone calls from any payphone
etc
Was like babbys first 'holy fuck' moment on computers basically for the time.

>>106005132
You have to be fucking joking

>>106007186
Remember when popup blockers weren't built into browsers and you had to install them as a separate application? I used pirated ones on IE. Malware being easy to avoid I kinda disagree on. The old internet was a minefield and if you were trying to do something as basic as acquire pirated software it was easy enough to fuck up and get infected. I learned my lessons the hard way. But you must also keep in mind that worms were not the only threat. IE was a mess. You could get infected through shit like ActiveX exploits. Patches being delivered by automatic updates came later.

>>106007255
I'm the person that wrote >>106007126

I discovered textfiles.com in 2000 and it was a life changing moment. Those how to make free calls on payphones files contained mostly obsolete info. Key word mostly. I tried everything and eventually hit paydirt when I identified a COCOT in my town that allowed placing free local calls if you would call any free number (toll free numbers, the operator) get them to hang up, then wait one whole minute for a dial tone to appear. Many nights were spent with one of my fellow juvenile delinquents prank calling the numbers of kids we did not like from school, Burger King, and whatever else we felt like. Most of our calls were not very good, just replicating the Jerky Boys or whatever. But we got the person on the other end to rage more than once which was always a win.

>>106005615
I'm just here out of spite at this point. I have lost most of my nostalgia for the old days. I don't get mad when I see those sharty tards who are still butthurt about the cancer that was /qa/ getting chemo'd post yotsuba jaks. I know today's uppity newfags are tomorrow's boomers. They will get old too. We all do. When I'm a decrepit wrinkly old fuck I'm going to take so much pleasure in watching all their sacred cows get slaughtered by obnoxious children.

>>106007264
I was waiting on this post.
Nothing is stopping you from using outdated hardware and crippling your processor so you can replicate what it was like surfing during the early 2000's.

>>105985381
>everyone everywhere was taught never to use their real name
Take me back.

>>106007434
Does crippling the CPU remove social media, links to Discord and retarded posts that completely miss the point being made?

>>106007434
but that's not the problem

>>106006974
There was no expectation of making money from web content, so almost all of it was just done for the fun of it

>>106007060
You weren't even born then lmao.

>>105985294 (OP)
>millenials thought this was better
The reason people are nostalgic for the internet of the late 90s and early 2000s is because it was entirely populated by, mostly, white Americans and Japanese
Now its 80% thirdies and everyone wants to go back
Do zoomers really think people are nostalgic for dial up internet? Are you fucking retarded?

>>106007134
They still do this now with Discord. Women love chatrooms because they like doing weird drama/political things with eachother and any guy dumb/unlucky enough to get involved.

>modern internet
>can't even go onto shopping website and buy product without wading through half a page of irrelevant sponsored advertising getting in the way of what I'm actually searching for
>yes I am visiting your web site in order to give you money and buy product, why do you feel the need to make me the customer have a shitter buying experience by obnoxiously shoving low quality dropshipped chinky products I have zero interest in in my face when you should be making it quick and convenient for me to complete this transaction before I change my mind
reeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>106005219
hm

what if there was a VPS provider whose entire purpose is to severely throttle outgoing bandwidth?

and running your service on it would be like some kind of prestige

something like

>good luck running a 20MB react application and sending 5MB payloads responses! retard! git gud!

>>105985294 (OP)
It was , I remember being like 6 years old and dialing in and litterally typing random urls , and by complete chance landing on a website about dinosaurs made by some random university professor and being absolutely enthralled by its majestic graphics and descriptions.

retards like you will never take that from me.

don't be sad it's gone, be happy you were there.

>>105985294 (OP)
>optimised websites designed purely to serve information, with barely any adverts or backend nonsense
why yes, it was better

>>105987631
Nigga, I was around to play NES and GameBoy games, and most of them were 60 fps.

Now, I never had dial-up, but I did have a breakneck 128 kbps cable line and I remember my ping rarely ever reached 100ms when playing with guys withing the country.

Now playing a AAA game at 60 fps sounds like a luxury that requires a $1000 GPU with fake frames and blurry upscaling.

>>106005615
>>105998051
>>105987706
Good to see some fellow oldfags here.
I'm almost 39 and I feel I will also be coming here until this place ceases existing or I die.
I just wish we had a bigger ratio of oldfags posting. Newfags jump too easily into trends and fads that nobody cares about after a week.
I also get the feeling that the newfags are the most proponent of consumerist threads.

When I was 10 someone at school gave me a referral spoofer in like '99. Basically internet explorer was so shit back then that if you could guess the location of index.html there were these spoofer tools to bypass whatever authentication was there and make the browser think you're just refreshing. So imagine you want to view whats inside the paid area of http://porn.com/ if you guessed correctly that index.html is located in http://porn.com/members/index.html IE would let you access that page without authentication.

The verified working addresses that came with this tool were literally like 50% horse sex websites but the kids didn't seem to care.

Dialups and ISDN were shit, no fond memories there. Acceptable for playing games, even for something like Ultima Online but everything else was painfully slow. The internet as a phenomena back then was magical though. Maybe, in a retrospect, it was for the best that things took their sweet time to load - everything was done with intent in mind, and if you lacked such, often you'd rather do something else than use your computer.

>>106005615
>>106008239
40 years old here, equally I'll be here forever. My experience with 20 years of lurking here isn't what this place needs these days, but probably what it deserves.

the tech is much better now. it heavily censored though. i wouldn't know if it was censored back then, but i think it probably was even back then.

>>106008417
It didn't need to be. Today the internet is an integral part of society.
Back then it was just a few nerds and misfits. Nobody cared.

>>106008277
On porn password cracking forums they shared urls that were vulnerable to this but my experience was that most of them were trash. I wanted things that were actually good like passwords to cumfiesta.com or whatever. Also downloading VCDs or pornos ripped from DVD on IRC was better than watching that horrible quality asf crap anyway, even if the scenes on sites were hot sometimes. How times change.

>>105985294 (OP)
>poorly optimized site
>wElL cLeArLy eVeRyThInG wAs lIkE tHiS
kys zoomer. you will never have a soul.

>>106005190
>kpoop turdie
no surprise

>>106005775
yeah but back then i was also pizza

>>105987706
Windows 98 was nicer in the sense that it wasn't actively user hostile but oh boy was it a piece of garbage.

>>106007480
No is forcing you to use social media, either.

>>106007434
You completely misunderstand on a deeply fundamental level what made the internet great in the 90s.

>>106007560
I was...you have to remember what website you're on here...

>>105985294 (OP)
For many reasons it was better. The internet was "bigger". Exploring it was a trip. The communities were smaller and tightly knit, almost like little families.

>>106012269
No, i understand perfectly.

Its just that the kinds of people that say shit like "oh internet was so much better in the 90s" when it was objectively worse are on the spectrum and mentally deranged.

I really believe if we had a good way to browse good websites (as curated by me et al) the Internet could be fun again.

>>106012269
The internet is definitely better now.
The web? idk it depends on which parts your on.

I miss hanging out with my friends on IRC
We used to watch movies and shows together
I even made a script back then that used CTCP to synchronize playback

>>106012335
The miss the reasons that it WAS better, not the reasons that it was worse. Obviously.

>>106008417
Nothing was really censored to any appreciable degree.
Little retarded me made his first website in the 90s on geocities at like 12 years old and it was a 'warez' site that just curated links to direct downloads on other servers(aka I was a leech, it's embarrassing to think about desu lol).
Yes, it had flame gifs and loaded slowly because I was a stupid idiot.
But you could seemingly pretty much just get away with whatever. Even on something like geocities.
If you actually hosted your own server, it's hard to imagine much happening to you back then in the way of censorship.
The DMCA was like what, 1998 or something? Maybe that was the beginning. But not long after that everyone had broadband and p2p filesharing created a whole new censorship resistant world for many years.

>>105985381
very well said

>>106008658
Still, that fact that you would once in a while actually find passwords that worked on some of those sites was pretty wild.
Funny to think about how influenced everyone was even back then by exposure to internet porn.
All my friends and almost every guy I knew back then thought giving girls facials was essentially the goal of life...I wonder where we all go that idea from lmao

>>105985518
Arab Spring was actually proof that the internet was a major success for psy ops, was pushed by Atlantic Council, State Department, etc.
It wasn't until OWS for the pivot, when they realized the mob truly has a mind of its own and cannot be controlled.

>>106008417
>. i wouldn't know if it was censored back then, but i think it probably was even back then.
People back then couldn't even fathom the extreme level of censorship we have now in their worst nightmares.(It's always been the EU and UN's wet dream though so obviously that's a bit hyperbolic) You could basically just do whatever the hell you wanted. Even relatively censorship/ban happy services like AOL were a bastion of freedom compared to anything today, even 4chan.

And because people seem to forget or don't realize it: It was only because the US owned the internet that the freedom remained as long as it did.

Also the 90s internet was massively superior simply because the vast majority of people on it (who were largely white, well educated, and well off) just did it for the fuck of it. Not for any profit motive. People made websites and shared their knowledge just because they could. Also everything was oriented around interests rather than social networks. And there was the novelty of near instantaneous long distance communication with people around the whole world.

>>106012335
I'm not on the spectrum, but suspect you may be if you can't conceive the fact that the internet was better for social reasons primarily, rather than technological.
It was a once in a lifetime subjective experience that very few got to participate in.
To say it was 'objectively worse' in this context makes no sense.
You felt like you were a part of something special, and you were able to connect and socialize for the first time(sans perhaps BBS era) with other people who also recognized how impactful the internet is and was going to be in the future.
Chatting with people or posting on message boards, or creating a homepage was actually meaningful. People were online to connect with other people. Nothing like that in human history had ever happened before. It was a technological revolution, and unlike some where you only see it in retrospect...you and the few others who were there knew it was special at the time, and actually felt it every time you logged on.
Even something like playing a online game for the first time felt magical. Battle.net was invented with Diablo 1 and all of a sudden you learn what a 'guild' is, and suddenly you have friends and enemies from all over the world.
Experiencing an actual MMO like Ultima Online, or a 3D one like Everquest was like living in a scifi novel. You can't judge the experience from modern times, because back then there was nothing to compare it to.
I could go on forever, but it'd be like talking to a wall if you honestly think anything about the experience has anything to do with some 'objective technical comparison'.

>>106012787
Yeah im not reading all of that

>>106012797
I don't think I could have thought of a better reply myself to illustrate the point exactly.

>>105998051
>online since 1999
lol
u are liek child
by '99 I was already giving up mmorpgs after wasting a couple years of my life on that trash

>>105985294 (OP)
>ackshually the internet sucked for you back then, look at IGN
That's like saying the internet sucks now because of IGN. We didn't go there then for the same reason you don't go there now. The only thing that has changed are the exact symptoms.

>>106002988
trvthnvke

>>106007093
I remember like mid 2000's where everybody offered a yahoo groups-like alternative as replacement for the decomposing body of usenet. Wouldn't know what to call that.

Also google killed deja and never forgave them for that.

>>105996332
>people who aren't you or anyone you know did an embrace
get some original material

>>105994713
it was over after ww2, kruger

>>105990620
No u nigger

>>106008161
only if you play interactive movie AAA slop

>>106007579
not the same thing, biological women in discord are always the same ran through BPD archetypes or genderflakes


>>106007564
You will never be Japanese

>>105985294 (OP)
dialup is the essence of soul down to the fucking weird ass electrinic banging noise it made during tge connection

>>106015569
ding ding ding ding
dong dong dong dong
and more sounds that i can't think of onomatopoeia for. but i remember it in my head

>>106012572
I never thought about it when I was younger but obviously in a porno context cumming in a girl is boring because you can't see it. A facial is more visually appealing than a creampie closeup. It did influence me to be more into cumming on girls than in them.

>>105985294 (OP)
A world free of psychological hooks

>>106012745
You should also consider that being in better company negates the need for censorship. I was exposed to disgusting and fucked up things on the early internet. This helped me learn how to avoid them. It also desensitized me enough to allow me to become a /b/tard. I didn't like looking at zippocat or gore pics or whatever else. It's something you had to tolerate to operate in that space. On the modern internet you have people trying to import that stuff into normie spaces. Like you're browsing Twitter trying to find out what's going on in the world and the new algo tweaked by Elon's jeets pushes you a video of a lady getting run over by a bus and her entrails spilled out into the street. Lovely. A normal person wouldn't see such things 20 years ago unless they went looking for them. Hence no push for censorship.

>>106016399
why do you want to see another man's cum?

>>106016777
why do you want to hear another man's music? why do you want to see another man's hot wife? fuck off outta here

>>106015291
What about the 1950s?

>>105985294 (OP)
At least you knew things were made and written by real people. Now you have to search longer through the jeet and bot content for a real content than you had to wait during dailup. I just want to go back to a world without 3rd worlders on the internet.

>>106016884
Your fault for not killing jews and playing nice
deal with it
your decendants will all be brown or niggers

>>105990522
The jews were still finding out how to corrupt the internet during that time. They only had knowledge about undermining countries and media like tv. The internet was a whole different beast since goyim had more control and everything was decentralised.

>>106016939
How is it my fault that the anglos and the slavs formed a unholy alliance to defeat us before I was born.

>>106016944
This makes me sad senpai.

>>105996065
Twitter comprehensively demonstrates this theory to be wrong: High IQ people are still retards on Twitter, while Low IQ people could still bash together an interesting geocities site in Frontpage. The problem isn't the people, it's the tools they're using. Most of the people who got online from ~1995-2005 were normies of average to below average intelligence. Getting online has been outright retard proof since the iMac G3, and even for Windows users normies have always had the option of paying someone else to do the hard bit for them.
The people who've come online recently are no worse (for all the whining about thirdies, most of the retards you actually see day to day are from the west) than the people who were online back then. The sites, on the other hand, are much worse. They're actively designed to make you a retard.

Imageboards are an odd edge case: The basic site design has been consistent, but moderation policies have drifted, and moderation is the main tool you've got to control how retarded your imageboard is. Most imageboards are badly moderated because they believe the problem is "banning bad people" rather than "creating selective pressure against bad posts" - make it annoying to make bad posts, and bad posters will largely turn good or disappear.

>>105990978
wiby.me is for you. The big problem is, people don't make many valuable web sites these days.

>make thread mocking internet nostalgia
>it turns into an internet nostalgia thread
Hope to post with fellow oldfags again some other time