Thread 106001231

KDE saars how do we fix it? GNOME is making fun of us now

https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1m7c8wb/file_picker_often_doesnt_want_to_show_thumbnails/

>>106001231 (OP)
This is the KDE team btw
https://conf.kde.in/

works on my machine

>>106001231 (OP)
Also when are these niggers going to implement search in the file picker already? That's something I really miss from when I used Guhnome

>>106001231 (OP)
Works on my machine (unironically but idk why doesn't it works in yours).
>>106001325
You can filter with Ctrl+I

If the best KDE experience possible is with Tumbleweed, what OS offers the best GNOME experience?

KDE devs are too busy adding a feature buried in 10 menus (that nobody changes anyway) to bother with shit like this.

>>106001571
https://www.endlessos.org/

>>106001240
This is why Linux is shit, it only has to work on one machine

>>106001571
GNOME OS, Fedora, Chimera Linux, Opensuse Aeon

>>106001841
Patches welcome

>>106001839
>>106001847
Much appreciated for the answers but to the one who told me minimizing windows is not even a concept in GNOME: fuck you, liar. It's not "minimizing" but "hiding" but it's still there and ongoing.
t. the one who tested Tumbleweed w/ GNOME on DistroSea.

>>106001571
>If the best KDE experience possible is with Tumbleweed
lol lmao

>>106001231 (OP)
https://github.com/dvhar/pikeru

>>106002079
>told me minimizing windows
>liar
>It's not "minimizing"

>>106001231 (OP)
how does an operating system still not have functioning file picker thumbnails after 30 years of existence?
on windows and macos this has worked for decades

>>106001571
KDE Neon should offer the best KDE experience. KDE on Tumbleweed is solid, though.

>thumbnails from files on encrypted volumes are still a shitshow even when the active root/home partitions are also encrypted
Thanks KDE.

>>106002883
Just werks in gnome

>>106002091
Nigga fix your UI god damn

GTK's native file picker has thumbnails. Qt's native file picker doesn't.

>>106001231 (OP)
Yeah you have to zoom in and out sometimes now. From what I heard Gnome still has the bug where thumbnails don't load in file picker before you load them in file manager first. I guess at least Lxqt file picker works out of the box? Why is this so difficult for Linux?

>>106004411
Irrelevant cause none of the major gtk DEs other than gnome have thumbnails in file picker out of the box.

>>106004023
???

>>106003025
>KDE Neon
Neon is based on ubuntu. It was already shit when I tried a couple years ago, I can only imagine how bad it is today.

yeah the file picker is fucked. i had to use ai to make a script to generate and cache all 80,000 thumbnails ahead of time to make it work better (it's still not seamless)

>>106004904
damn it's way bigger than i thought actually fuck me

usecase for thumbnails?

>>106001231 (OP)
works fucking great for me

>>106004628
It looks like shit 2bh

>>106005085
How do you set the buttons at the top to be above the address bar?

>>106005269
nvm, found out you have to set widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker to 1 in firefox

>>106001231 (OP)
No issues for me, sar.

>>106001839
why are all the people some shade of, brown?

>>106004916
thumbnails never get cleared. so even if you delete a photo / video, its thumbnail will still exist.
this happens regardless what system you use. windows, mac, linux, gnome, kde, openbox, etc. thumbnails are always saved and never get deleted. you have to remove thumbnails, manually.
that's why on windows for example, disk cleanup, will delete the thumbnail cache and all thumbnails have to be regenerated, again.

>>106001236
That's a little disingenous. You've chosen the India conference to use a picture from, and your link is to kde.in.

>>106001231 (OP)
y'all still bickering?
>picked with LXQt's thumbnailful picker

>>106005443
>redneck slang "y'all"
>still bickering?
Well, its a 4chan. Of course we are. Its why we come here, dipshit. Don't you have a cousin or sister to fuck, Cletus?

>>106005411
pro tip:
>symlink the thumbnails cache folder to /tmp
yes, they will always have to be recreated, but if you have a modern system its not that slow for regeneration and you don't have to worry about thumbnails being saved, indefinitely. taking up 11+gb of space when half the photos are gone to begin with. they are wiped on every reboot and you save writes from your ssd.
>rm -rf ~/.cache/thumbnails
>ln -s /tmp/thumbnails ~/.cache/thumbnails

or just symlink it to another drive.

>>106004916
>>106005411
You can run this command as a cronjob or systemd service once per day:
find /home/username/.cache/thumbnails -atime +30 -delete
It deletes all of your thumbnails that haven't been accessed in the last 30 days. Thumbnails have their atime updated when you see them in a file manager, so this clears the thumbnails out for files you haven't looked at in a while, and they'll be regenerated when you next look there.
You can, of course, adjust the number of days as you wish.

>>106005511
man i fucking love cronjobs so much bros. they feel so good.

>>106001240
This.

>>106005411
I have a crontab for that. Deletes thumbnails that haven't been accessed in over a week.

>>106005480
>this mad

>>106005411
i dont want to clear them, it makes the file picker render faster

>>106004437
>heard Gnome still has the bug where thumbnails don't load in file picker before you load them in file manager first.
You heard wrong, it uses nautilus for file picking which can use the host's thumbnailers

>>106006233
It was someone on /g/ using Ubuntu. Maybe an older version or something.

>>106001571
opensuse and fedora desu. ubuntu sucks for gnome.

>>106006798
>ubuntu sucks for gnome
this
those fuckers break it so much, it's like they do it on purpose

Why not just put meaningful names and organize your stuff into folders?

>>106006878
because it's the 21st century

>>106006896
>Thinking is so last century

>>106001325
have you considered adding the search?

>>106006878
agree, icon view can slow things to a crawl if it even works

>>106006930
>doesn't apply to the file picker

when will the industry pool their resources together and make a 1 nice unified linux desktop that just werks and has executables you click on to install a program + windows emulator

>>106007086
gnome

>>106007086
>xkcd standards.png

>>106001231 (OP)
>https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1m7c8wb/file_picker_often_doesnt_want_to_show_thumbnails/
>KDE Plasma Version: 6.4.3

>https://gpo.zugaina.org/kde-plasma/plasma-meta
>plasma-meta-6.4.3 ~amd64
>plasma-meta-6.3.5-r2 amd64
>The prefix ~ (a tilde character) placed in front of various architectures in the example above means that architecture is in a "testing phase" and is not ready for production usage.

A guy found a bug in a version for people who help FOSS with reporting bugs, it's working as intended.

>>106005433
It is responded to any loosely kde-related thread. Propably one person that is either a troll or a schitzofrenic. You can ignore it

>>106007257
>A guy found a bug in a version for people who help FOSS with reporting bugs, it's working as intended.
It's 'testing phase' on your shitstro. 6.4.3 is a Plasma stable release from KDE.
https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/6/6.4.3/

>>106007361
it's not stable, just a release

>>106007441
All releases are stable, the beta and testing period happen prior to release. Not only is that a stable release but a bugfix one.

>>106001231 (OP)
Can't help since I've not had this issue myself.

>>106006907
>thinking is seeing
schizophrenia

>>106007482
No. It depends on distro.
>debian
>Package plasma-desktop
>bullseye (oldstable) 5.20.5-4+deb11u1
>bookworm (stable) 5.27.5-2
>trixie (testing) 6.3.5-1
>sid (unstable) 6.3.6-1

>>106003025
>KDE neon
Weird Frankenstein OS
In my experience the best KDE experience so far has been fedora. Haven't tried tumbleweed though

>>106007661
that's not how it works. That's distro based stability marking.
Projects have their own versioning.
gnome for example does <version>-alpha, -beta, -pre-release before releasing the stable version.
Debian will treat the final release as 'unstable' and then 'testing' which doesn't match the gnome release.
Same for KDE. 6.4.3 is a stable bugfix patch release.

>>106001231 (OP)
Lying doesn't make you win, shitskin

play stupid games, win stupid prizes

>>106007982
>shitskin
Why are you insulting kde devs
>>106001236

>>106007930
You receive KDE from your distro, if some version is considered unstable you shouldn't complain about bugs, you should report them. You can only complain about bugs if it's considered stable. Users of debian stable, gentoo amd 64, rhel etc are considered "the users", while users of debian testing, gentoo ~amd64, fedora, arch etc are considered "semi-users semi-qa". Formally you can install KDE from KDE directly, without a distro, then you can complain about why they called it a bug fixing release if they added a new bug in it. But these are releases for distro maintainers, not for users.
>You can only complain about bugs if it's considered stable
If you are interested, such things also happen, I use stable KDE on gentoo and I noticed 1 bug, but not the one op posted.

>>106001325
What I do as a workaround, use Dolphin directly and then drag & drop the file onto the file picker, this will set the folder and file name and you're done.

>>106001372
>You can filter with Ctrl+I
That only works for the current folder, it's a filter, not a search.

>>106005443
Lxqt has a picker?

Average Linux experience desu

file explorer doesn't have thumbnails, you fix that and notice desktop doesn't have thumbnails, you fix that and notice pdfs don't have thumbnails, you fix that and notice file picker doesn't have thumbnails, you fix that and notice webms don't have thumbnails.......

>>106002091
>574 Rust deps
Why are Rust devs like this

>>106009295
The new python, but somehow even worse.

>>106005085
do you post in /rlg/?

>>106001372
>You can filter with Ctrl+I
Anon, you saved my life.

>>106010505
just use gnome, it will save your career too

>>106008438
>That only works for the current folder, it's a filter, not a search.
For recursive searching use Ctrl-F
For some reason doesn't work on the file picker version of Dolphin but you can drag & drop for most things

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XDG_Desktop_Portal#List_of_backends_and_interfaces
I'm running standalone WM and can pick whatever, what's the best file picker?

>>106001231 (OP)
nice cursor you've got.
would be a shame if it got stuck.

>>106001231 (OP)
Yeah lately the KDE file picker has been glitching out on thumbnails for me, like it'll show some but most it doesn't. Sometimes they'll load if I hover over them, other times not. Shit used to work fine ~1 year ago. Don't know what the retards in charge of this shit pile are doing.

How many of these are gayland only issues? I've been using plasma X11 ~amd64 on gentoo for years and there have maybe been 2 or 3 bugs I've encountered.

>>106001231 (OP)
use a different file browser you fucking buffoon

>>106002091
>ugly ui
>written in rust

>>106011642
>>106011896
I am on Wayland and I noticed this issue too, not a big deal because for me scrolling up or down with the mouse wheel makes the rest of the thumbnails load too.

>>106001231 (OP)
>tfw sticking with gnome since 2018 and seeing it progressively get better, faster and stronger
I have to say, in 2025, I don't even see a need to go to some X.org -> minimal WM or KDE anymore. GNOME performance, feature set is basically there. only real missing feature is HDR, but HDR on Linux is a total shitshow anyway.

>>106011530
The only thing stuck here is you, in the past.
5 years to be precise kek.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/ktuxwn/plasma_521_wallpaper_5120x2880/

>Loonix still struggles with file pickers
absolute meme OS

>>106010687
Sybau zogslave

>>106010687
>career

>>106004890
Ubuntu has only gotten better since then, thougheverbeit

>>106012718
Gnome has hdr desu
If your monitor supports it it should be in display settings

>>106012741
retard, look at the dolphin icon

>>106013609
>5 year old Plasma
>but recent Dolphin icon
>messed up and horribly outdated system
>KDE bad mkay
And you call me retarded, kek.

>>106009253
yeah, has its own xdg-desktop-portal impl with all the expected view types, including thumbnails.

>>106002091
>caption server
What is that and how is it different to an LLM with vision?

>>106002091
>caption server
What is that and how is it different to an LLM with vision?

>>106011896
I posted >>106011642
I'm on X11 because wayland is fucking broken and feature incomplete.
The KDE devs are just retarded and dead set on making KDE just as shitty and gay as GNOME.

>2025
>linux still can't display thumbnails properly
kekorino

>>106001231 (OP)
F12 in dolphin toggles thumbnails

>>106005354
Do you screenshot at jxl natively or do you convert manually? Also, what program do you use?

>>106001231 (OP)
>the default file browser is the only thing I'll use!

>>106013952
Ehh...? My Lxqt doesn't come with this...
Setting Firefox's Xdg file picker valuable to 1 (which enables Dolphin and Nautilus) doesn't open anything

>>106015278
>>106013952
nevermind I literally just tried again and it worked this time. Nice, I really don't like the GTK one firefox uses, but still no recursive file searching like Dolphin...
Is this some Qt limitation?

>>106001231 (OP)
>drag file and get a popup asking if you want to copy or move
what retard thought this was a good idea?

>uninstall the thumbnailer
>be surprised when there's no thumbnails
???

>2030 - 5
>Not searching through Hydrus
ISHYGDDT

>>106015845
>just sort 110,000 pictures bro
no. it's too late

>>106015851
You can autotag them by saving media into folders and set rules to apply tags to those folders.
E.g Keep saving your cat images to /path/to/cats/british_censored as usual and all your british cats are tagged as such

>>106001231 (OP)
Windows does this too

>>106005480
hello rajeesh

>KrashDE is full of bugs
wow, color me shocked

>>106016042
You're not full of beef though!

>>106016051
I literally ate beef tonight, with a homemade pepper sauce

>>106015851
My tagging rate is like ~1000 images per hour using Gemma-3-b.

>>106015564
>thumbnailer is installed
>file picker doesnt show them
>have to zoom out for it to work
kdard

>>106016051
these are the kde devs, they cant eat beef themselves >>106001236

>>106001236
>conf.kde.in
>.in
>India has Indians
upset

>>106012749
this

>>106017661
this but unironically

>>106017661
>annual event paid by kde
>happens in india only, not even 'kde asia'
>while akademy (the kde event) has to happen to a different country every year
>never in the US
KDE pays india to host an event for india-only every single year. I donate to KDE to fix their shitbugs not pay indians

>>106017875
not paid by kde not made by kde but community members

>>106017875
Can't the US hobbyists do their own KDE conference? Seems like that's what the Jeets did

>>106001231 (OP)
works on my machine

>>106001231 (OP)
let me guess, half of the KDE libraries are run through flatshit or snap.

it is a hell you brought on yourself
also
>KDE
lmao,

>>106018371
The guy in the center with the oversized hoodie is a prominent kde devs
It's an official website by kde
Kde.in redirects to kde.org
Kde's sponsors sponsored it
>KDE Patrons
>KDE Patrons also support the KDE Community throughout the year.
>https://conf.kde.in/2025/sponsors/
>Maintained by KDE Webmasters

>>106018401
No. Kde controls the trademark and can choose who to allow to use it and since they are all leftist communists, they consider the US as an enemy

>>106001236
Girls like this are easy to fuck

>>106019007
But why would you want to, though?

>>106018948
So it's like other communities made up by community members? I don't see the big deal. If you want an event, organize one

>>106013196
>Dangerous game
Kek, what are these high on onions techjaks going to do?

ksisters...

>>106019045
>Paid by kde

>>106019497
Don't they support all communities or similar events?

>>106001231 (OP)
>on Linux
>actually using the UI
>for anything
typical macroshart plebeian behavior
WONTFIX

>>106019271
Vote for the tangerine pedophile harder. Idk.

KDE sucks, but there is an option in the config to not show thumbnails for files over x mb; It's dumb that it is the default though.

>>106015559
Unironically what is the problem with this? I move files manually (copy and the delete the original) all of the time.

>>106015559
Dunno but they've since changed the default iirc

>>106015559
I like this. You niggers will complain about anything. You can always turn it off.

Use case for showing thumbnails?

>>106001236
>TFW you just shit in the street but you got a little more just for the conference hall.

>>106019028
She makes you curry after you glaze her donut

>>106001571
Arch + gnome-shell

>>106012741
>>106013682
I know gnometards don't understand features, but in KDE you can change your wallpaper to the one (You) like!

>>106020661
>he thinks you cant change wallpaper on gnome
retard, at least I used KDE and saw how buggy and krashy it is first hand

>>106021895
I've been using KDE for over 20 years, and I'm still using it as my main desktop to this day. But this mouse cursor bug does annoy me.

Not specific to file pickers but I've read a bunch of file manager code like Thunar, PCManFM, Dolphin(Kio) because the thumbnailing experience ALWAYS sucked in some way for very large directories and I always came out of that experience wanting to claw my eyes out.
Dolphin started working fine sometime in the last two years though.