Thread 106002570

I can't believe people are actually nostalgic for this shit now.

Installing a Windows 95/98 theme has always been the first thing I do on a fresh install on any version of windows.

>>106002570 (OP)
1) fuck you too
2) it'll get even worse

>>106002570 (OP)
anything is an improvement over flatshit. even a windows 98/95 theme

Nostalgiafaggots deserve to get roped. They would rather regress and go back to the past rather than make something better. Rot worshippers should get lynched

>>106002676
lynching and roping are awfully nostalgic methods of execution anon. careful

>>106002570 (OP)
Why would you hate the coolest thing ever? Literal hipster swine.

>>106002570 (OP)
fucking faggot blind retard i bet you prefer windows 10 and 8 flat shit soulless design

Aero is nice, it coincides with the last time Windows was truly "great" with 7. You can see some of the Aero inspiration in Mica but Windows 11 is so trash I wouldn't even bother.

>>106002570 (OP)
Fuck you, you stupid nigger. Flatshit design killed UX

>>106002710
epic takedown

>>106002570 (OP)
95/98 themes are cool but I felt nostalgic for 7, especially after PC upgrade and I wanted something modernish that isn't flatshit. Windows 7 was peak Windows.

>>106002570 (OP)
>Can see the controls of the program below the focused one through the titlebar
S O V L
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V
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>>106002570 (OP)
>>106002873

Is it even possible to create blurred transparency with GTK windows?

>>106002570 (OP)
Looks fine with transparency disabled, which is always the first thing I do. Only people who don't actually do things on their computer left it enabled.

>>106003440
usecase?

>>106003440
It's barely even possible to have UIs in Linux.

>>106003548
It's possible they're just an afterthought. It's like here normie retard. Scared of the command line? Haha I bet you are. Here's this bloated application with lots of pictures so you can interface with your package manager. It's much slower than just typing sudo apt-get install firefox but it won't scare you away, even if it is likely to fuck up or crash. When you're ready to stop being a little pussy you can open up the command line and get shit done like a real man.

>>106003645
Nigger I'm on Linux right now and I can assure you I've written more bash code than you ever will. I only made the comment because of how much more difficult and convoluted it is to build UIs in Linux vs Windows.

>>106003645
>It's possible they're just an afterthought
Windows was an afterthought to DOS which was an afterthought of QDOS aka Quick and Dirty Operating System. UI design has always been an afterthought in *every* operating system.

>>106003696
Operating systems now are just quick and dirty javascript frontends for terminal applications, so the circle is complete.

>>106002987
based pedophile

freetards cant into gui

>>106002654
I think this is the real reason. They finally managed to come up with something worse than aero and now everyone wants anything else.

>>106003548
>UIs in Linux
Readline is a UI tyvm.

>>106002570 (OP)
You can turn off the compositor in group policy

>>106002570 (OP)
aero was better that fischer price

I use AdrenaChrome OS

>>106002873
>KRASHES

official classic theme looks awful on anything after xp, only exception is 10 after you extensively mod it
>>106003440
honestly best to just treat gtk programs like electron apps, custom themes on them always suck

>>106006229
gtk is better at themeing than qt

>>106006264
im sure those csd look real good on anything that isnt flatshit

>>106002676
>regress
It's a clear improvement over its succesors, so. It would take a company to improve it, but no company wants to.

>>106002570 (OP)
>>106003419

>>106002676
>Nostalgiafaggots
>>106002570 (OP)
>I can't believe people are actually nostalgic for this shit now.
>Installing a Windows 95/98 theme
contradicting yourself already. so you are basically saying 95/98 isn't nostalgiafagging either
>some long mentally ill mental gymnastics following soon

GOTTEM!

>>106003532
damn this really gets me in the feels

>>106006229
I like it, it's like Win2K+

>>106006391
I am not nostalgic for past things that were unpleasant, only the good things

aero was never good

Aero was peak. The customization possibilities of W7 were endless. Everything has been worse ever since. Fuck MS

>>106003645
>When you're ready to stop being a little pussy you can cut your dick offand get on hrt like a real wo/man
Fix'd.

>>106002654
Flat could be done right. As it was done right back then. You still need outlines and borders that are distinguishable because they are semantically different instead of a single color square and some random unknowable amount of pixels in the corner is the border.

I was reading an article on a site today, and it had a css gimmicky thing to show me how much I had scrolled. They fucking destroyed scrollbars for what?

>>106002570 (OP)
Filtered by sovlful kino thobeit

>>106002570 (OP)
>>106002654
why are you guys os adamant about something that's literally just down to taste?
Bit childish don't you think?

>>106002570 (OP)
Oh look, another baby duck with an undeserved superiority complex. Aero was good and nobody gives a shit about your opinion.

>>106003668
The fuck do you mean Gtk is vraindead easy to work with, so is qt.

>>106002676
The faggots who cry "nostalgia" when it has nothing to do with nostalgia are worse.
>They would rather regress and go back to the past rather than make something better
Holy fucking shit. You call the abomination that is Metro and the Windows 8, 10, and 11 interfaces "something better"? Stop being a double nigger about this.

>>106006229
>only exception is 10 after you extensively mod it
How did you solve the UWP apps problem and the sidebar?

>>106002570 (OP)
>Installing a Windows 95/98 theme has always been the first thing I do on a fresh install on any version of windows.
Have fun with the tearing because they stopped fully accelerating GDI after XP.

>>106009990
NOD is better anyway.
IN THE NAME OF KANE

>>106006902
>They fucking destroyed scrollbars for what?
15 extra pixels

>>106002570 (OP)
I wasn't a fan then and still think it's not a great look but it is nostalgic to me on some level

Im not convinced anyone here genuinely has their own opinions or values or anything. At least half of 4chan are finite state machines that just believe the opposite of what some prominent group thinks, whether that group be normies or zoomers or women or whatever. It takes over a decade of observing niggercattle on the internet and how easily and quickly consensus gets flipped over to realize they are in fact niggercattle

>>106002570 (OP)
Windows Vista and 7 had the most beautiful GUI and you can't convince me otherwise. 8 and 10 flat design is ugly and 11 is even worse.

>>106006902
Sorry, anon. Borders are too visually aggressive. If they exist they cannot be more than 1px wide.
Elements need space to "breathe", we cannot separate them as this causes anxiety in users. So we need blank space.
The scrollbar will magically appear over the content when needed.
There's too many colors here, the user might get confused. It's best if we reduce the number of colors and let the user customize them if needed.
There's no need for a minimize button. Minimizing is an anti-pattern that we shouldn't enable. Closing the window is enough.
The title bar should be gray, not colored. Only in-app elements which can be interacted with should be colored.

>>106011892
>actual technical constraints with logical explanations for each of them
>vs a bunch of muh feels talk
This is everything I hate about modern designers. I loved back then when interfaces were made by engineers instead.

>>106009990
Can force vsync on your video drivers, or have VRR/G-Sync.
That said, there are a few applications that don't like the desktop to be unaccelorated. Late steam on Win7 would chug like a dog when turning off desktop composition.

>>106009990
tearing > latency

>>106002570 (OP)
IT'S PEAK
2000-2010 was the golden era of UI design

>>106012873
no, late 80s to 00 was

>>106012873
>gnome 40
Holy inflated version numbering, Batman.

>>106012983
But anon, bigger number == better!
Google said so!

>>106013049
The only guys who did this inflation right, imho, was Slackware version 13.37 for absolutely no reason at all.

>>106012983
Gnome 3 was considered bad, so they directly upgraded it to Gnome 40. If I'm not mistaken, the pic is actually Gnome 48 which is 20% better than Gnome 40 and 16x better than Gnome 3.

>>106013088
Yeah, but it's pretty much gnome 4.8, so saying gnome 40 instead is like saying gnome 4 and not caring about sub versions.

I remember before online updates, when you'd buy an actually useable version, and if it failed, the salesman would have to provie you a physical media with the updater or something like that. It penalized this shoving of beta software to users so there was hardly any version inflation.

>>106002570 (OP)
I've got no problem with those who like Aero Glass.
The problem is, Win7 baby ducks make it absolutely central to their personality for some reason.

>>106002570 (OP)
I'm okay with it unless they fall for the reddit meme of calling it "Frutiger".

>>106013719
Makes you want to beat whatever zoomer filth emitted it to death with a crowbar, doesn't it?

>>106013726
It doesn't make me THAT mad, but it is pretty retarded.

>>106002570 (OP)
Because corporate Memphis is THAT bad. I’d rather stay on last year’s shit than keep up with current year shit.

>>106013707
I rarely if ever see people bring up aero when talking about why they liked Win7, other then more of a statement of hating flat shit then anything.
People talk more about the lack of telemetry compared to Win10+, more nuanced updating, stability, etc.
On the flip side, people then always respond with "YoU OnLy LiKeD It BeCaUsE oF aErO YoU BaBy DuCk."
Basically anyone that uses the phrase "baby duck" can be assumed to be a retard. I loved Win7 but my first windows was 3.1, and I use Linux today.

>>106013793
>t. baby duck

>>106012952
Let's just agree it was a 30-year golden era

>>106013793
There's something hilariously leftist about how baby ducks call other people stupid, when they're the ones who fly into MULTI-DECADE AUTISTIC CHIMPRAGE when there's a UI change that confuses them.

>>106002570 (OP)
>t. seething jeet at M$ getting filtered by trying to keep up with Apple Liquid Glass
Sorry, only Brahmins have sovl.

>>106007872
You WILL pick a side and argue about it frogfag
Ahhhh that reminds me of hoooow much beeeeetter trannime is compared to STUPID UGLY SOVLLESS FROGS.......

>>106013854
whereas you fly into murderous rage at the very concept that people may choose not to use the current version of jeetdows

>>106013811
>>106013854
Literally confirmed my post

>>106013793
This thread must be uniquely retarded because this is the first time I've seen liking Aero Glass get conflated with baby duck syndrome. Usually I hear "baby duck syndrome" get thrown around by freetards attempting to gaslight you into using their inferior software. For the record, I've been using Windows since 98 and you can bet your last dollar that Aero Glass looked fucking amazing. Wanting improvements and resenting regressions IS NOT baby duck syndrome.

The close and window buttons on aero (not w7basic ffs, disgusting) are designed to be the PERFECT size and width for optimal clickability in a pinch. And the crimson color tells your peripheral vision exactly where it is, unlike win10’s no color no border “button”. It even faintly glows a brighter color of red outside the border when hovering over it. Your tiny grey win95 close box is outdated and less efficient for clickability, but even that is better than flatshit borderless design where misclicking is more common.

>>106012873
>no tiger
tiger was definitely a-tier

>>106014450
>no color no border
Leftist utopian design. It's brutalism applied to software.

>>106012873
i fixed it for you

>>106002710
fucking kek

>>106006123
Post beef.
>>106002873
You should give AeroThemePlasma a try

>>106015667
looks like beef poster forgot to take his meds today

>>106003696
Counterpoint: Classic MacOS, which was a bunch of nice-looking UI elements and applications (which themselves are substantial parts of the OS), held together by a crash-prone afterthought of a subsystem

>>106015698
I didn't forget to eat beef today LOL
It must suck being a Hindu!

I picked up a cheap old Dell Latitude E6330 a while back to test run Win7, which I never experienced. I jumped from Vista straight to Win10 some years ago. I got bored of 7 and swapped it out for Ubuntu 24. Ubuntu is cool and new to me, but my main machines run Win10 and Win11.

I get the love of 7 and its speed and very low RAM usage, but its outdated IPv6 implementation is now a security vulnerability (though not necessary for most websites for now), and I have little practical use for 7 in general. Nay-sayers against the Aero theme be faggots.

>>106015443
It looks identical to Panther iirc

>>106002570 (OP)
This was peak ui design. We need to go back to skeuomorphism

>>106017149
>all icons are the same shape
This sucks. But yes, skeuomorphism is the best UI design.

>>106017165
>distinct shapes
>distinct colors
>easily recognizable
These were noice.

>>106002710
Gottem

>>106015842
beef =/ meds

>>106017095
Yeah I guess so, it's been so long I can't remember exactly what the differences were, though I do remember them giving the menu bar a glossy look.

Windows XP was PEAK. Over.
Nothing came close to it and never will.
The smooth blue & green interface was like a breath of fresh air after those dusty old computers with classic windows theme.

>>106002570 (OP)
You are a soulless golem drone. You lack a soul. You are soulless. You serve Israel. You have no soul. You are circumcised.

Baby duck syndrome (in regards to Windows versions), while common, isn't often terminal. Most Windows 98 users said they would never upgrade - now they're extinct. Most XP users said they would never upgrade - now they're extinct. Most 7 users said they would never upgrade - now they're almost extinct. And Windows 10 is disappearing rapidly at the time of writing [late 2024], with considerably less market share than Windows 11 in first-world countries. Talk is cheap, and eventually even intergenerationally welfare-dependent Redditors and 4chan "poorfag NEETs" find computers out for council cleanup, in a recycle bin, or being used as a doorstop, that can run Windows n+1.

>>106019649
>Windows 10 is disappearing rapidly at the time of writing [late 2024]
>at the time of writing [late 2024]
>late 2024
>2K25 is the Current Year™
>you realize anon is doing the very same thing he hates: babyducking on last year
Meta... I hate meta.

>>106019649
>Most XP users said they would never upgrade - now they're extinct.

>be me
>baby duck back in 2008 or so
>momma decided to gift me new pc, maybe I was good in school, I don't remember
>ask salesman for winxp
>he says no, windows xp doesn't into 64 or 4GB RAM or some shit
>I don't buy it.jpg
>he keeps trying to push me vista
>I read that vista is le horrible, I don't want that, I'd rather keep XP and then skip to the next, which would eventually be what, 7?
>make up something about muh brother who works with that and can install xp on any machine
>he assures me even my "brother" wouldn't be able to because it'sa technical stuff
>I call his bluff "I'll see it with my brother, he knows this better than me"
>salesman folds, pc comes with fucking obongo
>realize all I ever use a computer these days (back in 2008) was Firefox (good times) and emulators, both of which are open source software that probably work better under linux anyway
>decide to try it out
>still a fucking freetard 20 about years later
>never owned a inwodws since

And all it would have taken was that fucker sell me a XP and I could have been normal.

>>106002710
fuckin ETHERED him

>>106019649
There is no such thing as baby duck syndrome, each version of windows is an objectively worse experience. People don't want to upgrade because each new version unleashes a whole new level of horrors.

>>106012873
Link to the list?

>>106002570 (OP)
> Windows 95/98 theme
Opressive flat shit but pixelated
You have shit taste

>>106006755
>aero was never good
It was but i can't say the same about ancirnt flatshit 95/98

>>106002570 (OP)
>Installing a Windows 95/98 theme has always been the first thing I do on a fresh install on any version of windows.
just turn off transparency no one needs that shit slowing down a machine from optimal

>I can't believe people are actually nostalgic for this shit now.
autistic retard doesn't understand he's getting old and now zoomers who spent more formative years with vista and 7 than with xp are the latest adults

Something about the font in windows 7 always looked like shit to me. It's super pixelated while also being blurry and tiny.

>>106013854
> when there's a UI change that confuses them.
Or maybe flat is just shit and you are faggot that defends low quality slop, for no actual reason at all

>>106022097
>slowing down a machine from optimal
Lolno. Maybe if you're software rendering your whole GUI, but if you have a video card made after 2003 there'll be no performance bottleneck.

>>106002570 (OP)
At first I thought it was cool but later I thought it was gaudy and hated the transparency and excessive animations and stuff. I just want a simple light grey, compact UI, win95 style. This aero shit ruined Windows for me. And in Win8 they forced Aero on which is why you can't use the classic theme anymore.

>>106019649
You need to be masochist coprophile or some kind of batshit insane fanatic to use w11
Might as well use linux

>>106022929
you don't waste glock cycles on useless graphical frills unless you are a normie

>>106023070
>I just want a simple light grey, compact UI, win95 style.
/thread

>>106023173
>useless graphial frills
Damn, good times.

>>106006229
I thought Win7 classic theme looked bad way back when because the two styles clashed. However back then I think I was too fixated on aesthetics instead of using my computer. The classic theme is THE Windows UI IMO, and I'll take it regardless of whether or not it matches the rest of the OS.

i remember when i was younger i really hate that aesthetic too and i thought that OS deisgn cant get worse than windows 7 (in terms of looks)
i get why zoomers are nostalgic for it though, literally anything is better than modern OS design, even shit that people thought was cancer back in the day

>>106012873
>no xfce

>>106021867
>There is no such thing as baby duck syndrome, each version of windows is an objectively worse experience
win 95 OSR2 was better than Win 95 and Win 95 was better than windows 3,1/3,11
Windows 2000 Pro was better than Win 98 AND NT, Win 10 was better than Win 8/Vista, Win 7 was better than vista

>>106023235
Really it never needech changing from windows 2000 pro on. The windows XP UI was shit as well. The windows file search UI has been broken and shit ever since windows 7/Vista

Just recompile classic wordpad/mspaint32 aand hypertrm and leave them the fuck alone as well microjeets

>>106023252
It's literally just an uglier gnome 2 by default. And no relevant distro aside from Xubuntu is using it's default theme anyways.

>>106023173
>waste glock cycles
Anon, you have a GPU, a separate piece of hardware, specifically designed to accelerate graphics rendering. This is parallelisation; your CPU can focus on its own tasks, while your GPU focuses on its own tasks. Aero Glass is not a problem for any modern GPU as we'd be taking about microseconds of rendering time, which at that point would mean the GPU might actually be WAITING FOR THE CPU to produce the next instruction.

>>106014295
2000 was less locked down than 7. Vista onwards have file protection stuff which makes it harder to rice and mod the OS.

>>106019649
XP users aren't quite extinct yet. There are modern browsers for it and it works on core i series machines and there is an API wrapper for it. I doubt anyone is unironically using it as their main OS and IMO they'd be stupid to, but still they are out there.

aero is coming back soon because gpus have mpos for a while now so they can do things like aero without any performance penalty

>>106023439
My local ATMs still sometimes crash back to windows XP boot.

>>106023537
Jesus. I wouldn't trust those ATMs with my bank account.

>>106023355
I like it because it's like the classic Windows UI but is accessible to Linux newbies.

>>106024724
>it's like the classic Windows UI
This is nowhere near classic Windows UI. What you're thinking of is just the theme and customization that's applied by distros like Mint and Manjaro. But regular Xfce looks more like GNOME 2. Pic related.

>>106024968
It's close to XP. Xfce on Debian has the win95 style start menu. I don't mean that it looks exactly like classic Windows, just that it looks kinda like it and feels like it. I wouldn't want to use a Linux theme which imitates Windows because Linux is its own thing. Xubuntu is what I have but I'm using the plain Adwaita theme which I think looks a bit closer to Windows Classic. I'm also using XP in a VM and they feel quite similar to me.

I want easy customisation back. Why can't I have it?

>>106028110
>easy customization
>anyone can do it
>lots of crappy designs, sure
>but lots of good designs too
>people realize it's not hard
>they don't need to pay top dollar to troon designers that just axe functionalities away because muh design
>design industry collapses (more like the bubble bursts back to the tiny real world need for designers)
They can't let this happen.

Microsoft still puts out security updates for Windows XP, granted it's only for the DoD but still

>>106029600
Have these ever leaked?
I'm currently on Windows 7 with Server 2008 R2 patches, but I still have an XP box.

>>106023254
10 is still worse than 7, because it forces bullshit on you that 7 does not. The UI is also more boring. baby duck syndrome is still not real even if they improved some things over the years. Windows 10 kernel with 7 or 2k UX would be an objectivity good OS if they would sell it.
no one except extreme contrarians "baby ducked" Vista when 7 was released, because it was a direct upgrade.

The problem is Microsoft always try to force shit people don't want through with the OS. People just want a simple OS that stays the fuck out of the way, does not look like ass, and actually works with a stable ABI unlike Linux.

>>106002570 (OP)
>The "live laugh love" generation hates soul

Not surprised

>>106011951
>can't refute a single thing I said

>>106019649
Very curious that there were no Vista or 8 or 8.1 "baby ducks". Almost like those were objectively shit operating systems, just like 10 and 11.

>>106009794
Windhawk has a mod to allow you to use UWP programs with the classic theme enabled. What sidebar?

>>106012873
>peak
>2000-2010
>sovl
Fuck off zoom zoom.

>>106029600
>Microsoft still puts out security updates for Windows XP
>>106029682
>Have these ever leaked?
Also interested in those

>>106030881
Vista definitely has its hardcore fans. 8.1 has/had loyal users up until EoL.

>>106023211
This still exists in KDE Plasma. You just have to enable it.

>>106032172
>Vista definitely has its hardcore fans
Wrong
>8.1 has/had loyal users up until EoL
8.1 didn't even get loyal users during its lifetime. It appealed to NO ONE.

>>106032708
>>Vista definitely has its hardcore fans
>Wrong
It does. They claim it's better than 7.
>>106032708
>>8.1 has/had loyal users up until EoL
>8.1 didn't even get loyal users during its lifetime. It appealed to NO ONE.
There are people who used it over 10 and I'm not sure why exactly. When it was new it appealed to people who valued progression in the NT architecture. 8 and 8.1 were solid OSes and start menu could easily be fixed, but it wasn't even the big deal people made it out to be.

>>106032788
>I'm not sure why exactly.
Because Windows 10 introduced all the spyware, bloatware and forced updates. And it was buggy as fuck on release. It was practically as unstable as KDE4 and early KDE5.
So people went to W8.1 because it had a year or two of security updates over W7. (Although I think Microsoft later extended W7 security update support)
Ultimately these people either switched to Linux or are using Windows Ameliorated or similar de-bloat projects and tools.