Thread 106006010

THE INTERNET IS DEAD. IT'S FUCKING DEAD

>low quality users seeping into all communities, not just normies but also indians
>SEO spam and AI content farms, search engines are now completely unusable

I'M TALKING ABOUT 2022 LEVEL OF QUALITY BEING GONE
NOT EVEN ASKING FOR A NUANCED PRE-NORMIES INTERNET

>monetization EVERYWHERE, nobody moves a finger for fun anymore

EVERYTHING IS NOW BEING SOLD: YOUTUBE CHANNELS, SUBREDDITS

>engagement algorithms everywhere, making normies more and more retarded
>ragebait and tribal conflict is now the norm instead of just some insane retards

EVERYTHING IS FOR FUCKING ENGAGEMENT FARMING
THERE'S NO NUANCE OR ORGANICITY ANYMORE

ALL IS CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED

>>106006010 (OP)
nooo, don't smoke anime girl. it's bad for your lungs

yeah i guess you're right and soon north american women will instead of spontaneously going into that babying "i'm humiliating you" tone when they sense you as being "below" them they'll blank out and be like "please venmo $5 so i can go into the condescening NA woman tone"

>>106006010 (OP)
what does that anime girl have to do with your post, anon? are you just a coomer?

>>106006052
Based organic shitposter.
fpbp and /thread

>106006066
Inorganic, divisive ragebait farming with glowie dvbsget tools.

>>106006066
Do threads need to be CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED for you anon? With a purpose and a strategy for engagement?

>>106006063
Don't woman already think that sending nudes is dumb because they could be selling them?

>>106006066
nigger
>>106006079
nigger

kek

>>106006076
meds, now
>>106006079
i just don't get how that anime girl is tied to the whole dead internet theory

>106006095
>meds, now
Glowieness confirmed.

Anime girls aren't real, that's how they tie to OP.

>>106006076
>dvbsget
What's that?

>>106006113

For some reason 4chan always complains about spam wen I write dvbs with U, so I write V instead, like sovl.

Checkem

>>106006095
It's tied to my tastes, and I'm the creator of the thread
And how's your frog tied to complaining about anime girls?

>>106006010 (OP)
>I'M TALKING ABOUT 2022 LEVEL OF QUALITY BEING GONE
Confirmed underage newfag, the net is dead to geeks since the normies and social media ruined it way back in 2007-2010.
But that normies cry out now, oh is music to my ears. This is exactly what it felt like to the geeks, when the normies ruined it for them.
Many 35+ millenials here were surfing the web and exploring the net easily back in 1999 on cheap DSL landlines, upper-middleclass white consumers households, always using desktop PCs. Then the mobile cancer came... you are just experiencing the net's death a second time. But this time it's an adversary even the normies cannot stomach, I hope the SAARs drive you insane. Go fuck yourself. It's dead since your kind arrived, dumbphone.
>ALL IS CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED
You mom is constructed.

>>106006076
>>106006113
I figured it out.
>>106006010 (OP)
>the Internet is dead
You can try getting into a walled garden (might be difficult to impossible) or start your own.

>>106006127
>how's your frog tied to complaining about anime girls
Now you guys aren't even trying? There's the camp of animeposters and the camp of frogposters. Frogposters also post wojaks, but mostly offensively to portrait the other guy. There's proud wojak posters too, that use it as a badge of honor, they got banned, made their own circlejerk site, planned and executed a hack on this very stie, taking it down for days and doxxing stats that showd 90% of content were literal kike glowies.

But anyway, frogs vs animegirls is a common theme in this basket weaving forum for as long as I remember frogposting.

>>106006127
i like frogs cause i like animals in general, plus frogs are amphibians. Also i didn't make any threads about the internet being dead...yet.
>>106006122
checked

>>106006128
Have the engagement farms eaten your attention span anon, or your reading comprehension?
I'm talking about NOT EVEN 2022 LEVELS
Facebook has killed the internet before, AOL has killed the internet before
BUT NOW IT'S LIKE THEY RAPED THE FUCKING CORPSE!

2022 GOD WAS ALIVE IN SOME CAVES, NOW IT'S DEAD AND WE ARE THE MURDERERS

>>106006127
>It's tied to my tastes
Might you be into the classic lolita body archetype (early teens body with an A cup or smaller)?
>>106006139
>they got banned
Do you know why?

>>106006128
Addendum:
Before DSL in 1999, my family had the preceding ISDN in 1995 which was a little slower.

>>106006151
Some /qa/ janny tranny drama, idk.

>>106006149
IT'S LIKE A FLOWER WAS BORN IN THE INTERNET CORPSE AND THEY TRAMPLED IT

>>106006145
And I like anime girls

>>106006139
Don't care about the tribalism

>>106006151
I like japanese cartoons, don't project your weird kinks onto me

>>106006149
You are moving the goalpost too hard and using the Jordan B. Peterson tactic of constantly redefining your argument.

You didn't even write that before.
>or your reading comprehension?
Quote that you wrote anything I did before me. Or maybe slow down on the gaslighting and low IQ fallacies before you did your newfag grave deeper. Anime LARPer

>>106006167
s/did/dig

>>106006167
>You didn't even write that before
>NOT EVEN ASKING FOR A NUANCED PRE-NORMIES INTERNET
You stopped reading on the fourth line you assface

>>106006159
I don't care either, I post frogs and anime girls whenever. But I'm at least not a tourist enough to have actually seen the tribes and not be confused by them.

>>106006180
quote what you wrote and what I wrote, then you see apparently you never said anything I did
I am waiting or will you resort to narcissistic defensive coping next?
When their defensive rage fails them, underlying feelings of shame, humiliation, and unacceptability can lead them to feel irreparably defeated.
Detaching from others to feel superior can ultimately lead narcissists to personal failure and social rejection.

>>106006066
hwat does that froge have to do with your post, anon? are you an amphibian?

>>106006175
More like reddit

>>106006181
>not a tourist enough to have actually seen the tribes and not be confused by them.
Has worms eaten your brain anon?

>retard asks me why posting anime girl
>I ask him the same question, like the socratic method
Yeah you don't care but you are autist enough to cry about some minor detail

>>106006190
I read what you wrote, and you were crying about one line that you misinterpreted
Is your switching to some "narcissism" drama talk any better?

>>106006010 (OP)
>EVERYTHING IS FOR FUCKING ENGAGEMENT FARMING
>THERE'S NO NUANCE OR ORGANICITY ANYMORE

Said the all capslock unnuanced attention whore with the non-organic tranime clickbait OP picture.

>>106006193
Sometimes i wish i was, amphibians go through a lot of cool stages in life.
>>106006159
>And I like anime girls
cool, but frogs are better, no offense.

>>106006010 (OP)
>NOW
lmao

>>106006199
Anon asked about anime girls because he was retarded enough not to see the clear connection between posting a lifeless image that emulates the human female, minus the problems associated with 3DPD.

You retardedly asked him back as a NO U, and it failed hard, because it outed you as a midwit tourist who doesn't even know the 4chan regulars.

>>106006149
>AOL has killed the internet before
You weren't even popped out on the mattress back then. No way you are older than 25.

>>106006205
You can't sex a frog

>>106006202
Is your buzzword salad any organic?
Your produce looks like made by others

>>106006211
Youtube being ruined by widespread monetization is old, but now it's literally *everything*

>>106006232
Is your dick so tiny it can fuck the flat screen dispaying your anime girls?

>>106006221
Nice headcanon anon, did your mom write it for you?

>>106006228
No way someone keeps the fire lit for so long?
People older than 25 have to carry years and years of collectivism and longhousing into them?

>>106006232
>You can't sex a frog
WRONG!

>>106006232
yt-dlp + mpv

https://www.youtube.com/@veritasium/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@pbsspacetime/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@SabineHossenfelder/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@rossmanngroup/videos

>"""ruined"""
SEO existed longer than youtube, you are free to consume the channels that are worth it and ignore the slop
how hard is it, like ignoring FB, insta, tiktok, snap, shitty medium blogs, crappy substacks, terrible wordpress blogs... I see a fake blog, I click close.

>>106006241
I teleport into the 2d world to fuck your waifus desu

>>106006256
WOULD

>>106006257
Yeah there's still light in the end of the tunnel, I'm ranting as I see some places getting dark

>>106006251
Bottomline: OP is a faggot. Even trolling you is losing its appeal. I'm out.

>>106006251
>collectivism
What did you mean by that? These are leftist ideologies. When was the US collectivist before Obama?

>>106006270
>waaaaah waaaaaaaaah waaaaaaah

>>106006274
I read Atlas Shrugged, pretty good book
I mean your
>No way you are older than 25.
In case you refer to the way I act

The internet nowadays is very prude and puritan, even here you can only insult with pre-approved words like nigger, incel, chud to not be "cringe"

>>106006270
We won already, he self-contradicted himself already a dozen times. I think a janny just put him on a 15 min pre-ban post lock. Thread is very silent all of a sudden.

>>106006283
>I read Atlas Shrugged, pretty good book
Show us a picture of your inexistent book collection.

>>106006283
This is collectivism influence, tribalism and "purity" over self-expression

>>106006284
>Thread is very silent all of a sudden
(U*JOISADJSKDASADklm

>>106006010 (OP)
Take a two to five year break and return anon. I'm serious. We're in the trans(heh)itionary phase of peak shit for the net's culture. The old world is dying while the new is struggling to be born. The next year will see AI censorship and moderation en masse, the years after that LLMs will make up probably half or more of the discussion you see online, you won't be able to have a conversation anywhere in public without it potentially being a robot as this technology gets cheaper and more effective at astroturfing and shilling.

It was my life too, I understand. Wait this out, focus on the real world and come back, the people you're looking for still exist, they're just scattered and drowned in the hordes of the modern internet on five thousand different federated private spaces. Eventually everyone will get tired of this as the internet evolves into it's next phase, of the public net being an incredibly sticky flytrap for normal people while enthusiasts go elsewhere.

>>106006274
Never collectivist, but far less selfish and cunty when it was more white.

>>106006293
I read in my offline amazon kindle
If you read it, you know what I'm talking about keeping the fire lit
Everywhere you go in the internet it's like those parties James Taggart went
I'm trying to be full organic here, no efficiency, no rules, whatever, just what I want
Not completely Randyan since she did love objective truth, but it's fun to be goalless retard sometimes

>>106006308
>I read in my offline amazon kindle
take a picture of the offline amazon kindle with ayn rand loaded
spoiler: you neither have a kindle with ayn rand on it, nor did you read atlas shrugged

interrogating you as cop would really be fun, the way you always make your story less and less believable.. sad

>>106006297
Man I hate how this place is project dead, in 2022 you could get 700 stars in a meme project easily, would be the meme of the board for at least two weeks
Now it's ignored for tribal threads

>>106006308
>I read in my offline amazon kindle
i don't blame you, that book is T H I C C

>>106006320
I don't need to prove anything to you
What I want is to find the valley where people like John Galt are hiding

>>106006327
Pretty much a thousand pages iirc
I'm gonna admit I got stuck in that radio speech at the end of the book, it's pretty long and John keep ranting about the world like I'm doing

>>106006342
d'Anconia speech before crashing the stocks was better by the way

>>106006297
>pic
that's not how reflections work

>>106006342
>I'm gonna admit I got stuck in that radio speech at the end of the book, it's pretty long and John keep ranting about the world like I'm doing
Yeah me too, i ended up just skipping most of it lol. Her writing isn't perfect

>>106006342
>I don't need to prove anything to you
*can't

>>106006357
i can guarantee that he read it, he knows about the speech near the end that is too long

>>106006351
I think the best happenings are in the first and second parts, the third one is pretty depressing
Plus Dagny ending with John instead of Henry or d'Anconia was a bit slutty

>>106006362
knowing about the valley and speech which are the most discussed things on the net is nothing more than surface level knowledge

>>106006371
yeah yeah, you're just looking for an argument

>>106006371
Let's see, what about James Taggart and that random poor woman he marries as trophy wife

>>106006128
you are born in perfection, life just gets worse and worse and then you die and go to hell.

>Another internet is dead thread because anon experience some bad community
No! The internet is Alive stop bitching....
The internet was always for normies and the true pre normies internet was when it was limited to scientists and corporations, you are just getting old and feel unwell in a community made of children and teenagers

>>106006274
>ayn rand
pretty funny they started a collective to come up with that shit.

>>106006357
>>106006371
Anon, in more gentle terms: the point of the thread is organicity over structure
That the internet is constructed and false, everyone wanting to look smart, marketable, create engagement, whatever
I'm not here to prove I read book X or I'm Y years old or I know Z, but to be myself at the rawest, that's the point of the rage: to be pointless and to cause nothing specific, just to have fun
Not to move or to inspire, neither to earn money or likes, just because I felt like doing it
Is Hermes the messenger dumb because he can talk in dumb language?

>>106006388
I missed the 2022 disporas and now the old /g/ is gone

>>106006425
what is present-day /g/ like compared to 2022 /g/?

>>106006455
It is the same, not sure what different universe is this guy living in

The internet as a public hangout and discussion space, where you could routinely discover some cool niche thing or a funny video from some rando, is mostly dead. I mean, there are still pockets of it here and there of course, but the people who occupy them are pretty much all now middle-aged veterans from the heyday of blogs and web forums 20+ years ago. I guess the closest thing now that resembles that sense of community of the old web, before it was buried in homogeneous algorithmically driven SEO spam and AI slop and parasocial e-celebs, is stuff like private Discord servers or Telegram channels, but it’s still a far cry from how things used to be

>>106006128
it got really bad in like 2015ish. and the pandemic was the nail in the coffin

>>106006455
2022 /g/ felt like a tug of war between what /g/ is now and some small peaks of light
/dpt/ didn't have schizos with their regdumpers, tribal baiting existed but it was more lighthearted, projects were common and idiots were always trying to make their pet projects become viral
Sneedacity happened remember? After it I spent most of the time on element as I was part of the project, then it died out and I also abandoned element
I came back to /g/ at the start of this year, so it feels very different to me, most people probably felt it worsening like frogs being boiled

>>106006477
Look at the other meme project a bit after sneedacity: chadstr
Sure it's just some dumb meme library, but I feel like current /g/ isn't capable of even that

>>106006388
shut the fuck up zoomer kid

>>106006477
i have heard of sneedacity, but i'm a newfag Discord immigrant, all the servers i was in either died or got taken over by trannies and became stale and boring. there was one really good political server i was in but they started banning everyone who disagreed with the stance of the youtuber the server was for.

>>106006323
>>106006149
>>106006010 (OP)
biggest cope about consumer generals now being over AI, because a fucking LLM bot is more appealing to interact with than the average zoomer anon who stares blank across the room with the gen z fluoride stare
yes LLMs beat narcissistic anons in being more entertaining
you only get the same bait replies here anyway, 4chan is far more repetitive than AI

>>106006477
>>106006455
>>106006425
>2022
read >>106006511

>>106006381
>life just gets worse
I can only agree
>>106006470
>it got really bad in like 2015ish. and the pandemic was the nail in the coffin
Glad to see at least a few old anons post.

Even this thread is mostly bots

>>106006549
bots are trained on NPC humans, i give it the benefit of doubt that it might just be anons who came originally from reddit

>>106006524
A lot of it is ESLs. The average internet user of current year has nothing in common with you and is posting from a smartphone, without any context of the net's overall culture. At best they are from twitter checking out the infamous 4chan and bringing a culture war with them, at worst, a paid indian shillfarm using translation software to dilute discussion.

It is dead anon, I've posted since around 2007 and been using the net as a child since about 2003. The average anon of 2007 is an introverted, shy autistic nerd. The average anon of 2025 is not posting in their native language and is on a smartphone. You have to go to the real world, make things and drag quality people to you, there is no other option. Every quality community is private and based around gatekeeping the modern net user that I described above. Cultivate a skill and focus on real life above all else, it's not worth your time outside of a select few people you choose to drag into your orbit, the era of being an introverted lurker and finding funny shitposts or decent discussion is mostly over. I'm mad about it too.

>>106006510
I also remember 2022 /g/ having flavor of the month distros, the meme one when I stopped using it was Nix OS
Now nobody really shills some distro, just say X or Y is for trannies
>i'm a newfag Discord immigrant
I know that feeling, used discord servers in the past too
What I'm complaining about is nothing new. I remember how sterile was the discord api and discord libraries servers,
with people making the 1000th r.danny copy bot with no personality, that was around when I started to use 4chan more often like in ~2018
I knew it before the american elections, but in that period I think I still used facebook for shitposting? Now it's boomer website

Going to sleep now by the way

So what, the new nerdy thing to do is to leave tech behind. Read books, play physical board games and touch grass.

>>106006609
>with people making the 1000th r.danny copy bot
dude that was one of the best things of that time, now nobody makes their own bots mainly because discord cucked the API.
gn anon

>>106006581
>The average internet user of current year has nothing in common with you and is posting from a smartphone, without any context of the net's overall culture.
Yes and the worst about phone posters is how bored and vapid they are. They think other people have to entertain them, whilst they bring nothing into the discussions themselves with their phones.
They are the "1 post by this ID" you see on pol with the Samshit IMG_9171.jpg filenames. They are hit and run posters that will post from a toilet on wifi and disengage any discussion the moment they are bored again.
Losers with no object permanence.

>>106006581
>It is dead anon, I've posted since around 2007 and been using the net as a child since about 2003. The average anon of 2007 is an introverted, shy autistic nerd. The average anon of 2025 is not posting in their native language and is on a smartphone.
Which angers me, because something that was a place for us to relax has been infested by an invasive species. It's that monotone grating noise much akin to cicadas in Japan. That constant subhuman droning in here.

>>106006617
correct, and the new normie thing to do is browse twitter and shilled garbage on an endlessly scrolling twitter feed. We've completely flipped and it's why the internet's quality has degraded so badly. The ultimate middle ground is to find a nerd circle you click with in real life so you don't have to deal with any of this. Visit cons, whatever you have to do. Insulate yourself from the retardation of the eternal culture war with quality people and you've won.

The insane normal people you used to use the internet to get away from have overtaken it. You can join private discords and communities that are more eccentric but their problems have a whole different book of issues. Rest well and don't take it too seriously, you're not the only one with these opinions. I truly do think it'll get better in a few years when gatekeeping becomes a standard requirement, it's happened in the 2000s already, where a certain forum required payment to enter and post. We're just repeating the cycle.

>>106006659
It happens on private spaces like discord and federated communities too. Anyone good at expression has to hide in DMs or become overwhelmed. As a result, the public chats are for the mentally unwell and ESLs talking in circles, brain drain on a massive scale.

>>106006581
>You have to go to the real world, make things and drag quality people to you, there is no other option.
I've been to hacker space in $bigCity and it was either leftist identity politics or groups not opening to strangers. Let me share a fundamental truth with you: At some age the effort to make new friends and have them trust you is too exhausting. Life itself is already enough work. You are most likely as old as I, that means you remember the time where you'd just go $place and you'd just act as if you were already friends with $person. In elementary you'd make a friend by shaking hands with someone else. As an adult now it's so much harder.
>Every quality community is private and based around gatekeeping the modern net user that I described above.
I agree but this also ruins club culture. Most ham radio clubs are hostile. They'd rather see their hobby die than let "young" people in it. The hostile 70+ hams that even hate 40 year olds because they use a digi mode the analogue ham despises.
>Cultivate a skill and focus on real life above all else, it's not worth your time outside of a select few people you choose to drag into your orbit, the era of being an introverted lurker and finding funny shitposts or decent discussion is mostly over. I'm mad about it too.
Same but there is only friends and family now. Can be lucky already I still do regular old landline calls of 1on1 VOIP with important people over a private secure mumble/murmurd server with TLS1.3

>>106006010 (OP)
>monetization EVERYWHERE, nobody moves a finger for fun anymore
because someone else will just steal it and monetize it lmao

>>106006665
>correct, and the new normie thing to do is browse twitter and shilled garbage on an endlessly scrolling twitter feed.
most people cannot think for themselves because society uses sociopathic shunning tactics against those who do not conform
the normie is a normie because he seeks consensus from authority figures and needs his opinion approved by someone else with social status
the definition of normie is someone who follows celebs and parrots opinions of the daily show and last week tonight
it's safe for them to have this vetting mechanism

>>106006010 (OP)
make a gemini capsule
you can make a quiet corner of the internet

>>106006498
>>106006581
Yeah you are getting old, nostalgia is the best evidence of it

>>106006010 (OP)
i guess its finally time to go outside

>>106006076
glows love posting bland expression pepes for some reason

>>106006800
nostalgia is false memories. this is not being nostalgic.you probably think people are nostalgic for finding skimflation (wors ingredients) and skimflation (less weight) bad. 150g packs being 110g now, pringles cans being half empty. but what can I expect of the 2016 reddit frog.

>>106006010 (OP)
>>106006130
>>106006149

There are communities out there who don't tolerate this deterioration of the Internet.

Here's one that has been getting posted here lately:
cy-x.net

Use what's been given to you, otherwise feel free to remain in what's left of the Public Web.

>>106006297
> focus on the real world and come back
The real world just isn’t worth it anymore, especially for men

>>106006010 (OP)
>2022
>turning point
dumbass zoomer, how new?
2015 if not even 2009

>>106006010 (OP)
>low quality users seeping into all communities
return to your containment board ;3

Most of the internet is unusable at this point. Back in 2012 there used to be 20+ websites I'd frequent, now it's just 4chan, the people you follow tab (with a carefully curated follow list) on xitter and rarely YouTube.
Offtopic: talking about SEO spam.
I created a website for a small company I started with my father and a friend.
We're getting fucking FLOODED by pajeets with their SEO proposals. I can barely find customer emails in-between garbage, how the fuck does this shit not end up in spam? When we tried to do an advertising campaign with cold emailing half of our emails got deferred, how can a fucking pajeet send me 7 emails with the exact same content from one email and then another 5 from a different email and just go straight into my mailbox? Wtf?

Same with boards on 4chan, places like /v/ or /fit/ are full of normies who saw a bunch of greentexts on Instagram tiktoks or whatever, or leftards trying to "take back 4chan from /pol/" whenever someone says nigger or something
/pol/ is a disaster and they see jews in their own shadow
/fa/ is pretty much dead
/x/ is the only board that remains the same, which doesn't mean it's good lmao

>>106008289
I bought a domain with domain guard and the jeets abused a way to contact the owner, so me, to harass me with proposals to do webdesign for me
normally I should only be contacted for legal reasons, but they abused some loophole where the domain guard can forward it to me without disclosing my real mail of contact data
i really hate these smelly "people"

>>106008331
>>>/x/ is horrible, mostly latinx who think if they turn the lights off a demon will attack them or flatearthers

4chan is about the only place not dead left on the internet. but even here i suspect a large portion of the posts are actually bots. also bots on reddit too.

>>106008362
all bots and LLM are trained on human utterances. I believe most posts are unoriginal NPC style people. bots are largely the OP because they have an incentive to scam you, as on /v/ where shilling is a thing

>>106008381
>>106008362
that reminds me, I haven't seen a flipper zero shill thread in a while on /g/

Remember the old school internet where people did passion project websites?

How did we even discover those sites before Google? How would people share them now? Everything is on a platform these days

>>106008409
>before google
CRRINGE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine?useskin=vector#Technology
google was fairly LATE to the party, youngblood

>>106008432
https://web.archive.org/web/19961022175214/https://www.lycos.com/
i remember starting on lycos which launched 1994 and I had net access 1996 so it was well known in print magazines

>>106008409
a lot more organically.
Sites like Yahoo had directories of sites, they'd feature the good ones. There were sites and mailing lists that featured interesting stuff every week. People set up webrings and links pages on their sites. It was amazing.

>>106006010 (OP)
>ORGANICITY
>>106006232
>organic
>>106006308
>organic
>>106008603
>organically
>>106006414
>organicity
did a SEO spam site, some youtuber or tiktok give you brainrot?

>>106008625
your logical fallacy is you're a fucking retard if you think my use of the word organic is an appeal to nature

>>106008689
"""organic""" human activity and """dead""" internet theory are the oldest topics and go back to BBS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
people love crying "IT'S THE END" for drama

the internet won't die and it will not be cinematic
it's more or less turning into a hyperreal disneyland with paid rides and select activities

i bet you think a private discord server or a forum is not """organic"""
big buzzwords, small smoothbrains

>>106006010 (OP)
I couldn't find a relatively popular 6 month old video with exact title last night because the first 10 pages of results are now AI slop with millions of views each

>>106006010 (OP)
Ahem anon perhaps you mean to say the World Wide Web is dead.

>>106008732
>appeal to tradition

>>106006079
>Don't woman already think that sending nudes is dumb because they could be selling them?
i know multiple women who only buy new underwear when they've sold their old ones.

4chan has been shit and unusable for well over a decade. i don't know why people act like this is a new development when the internet has been universally going steadily downhill every year since at least 2012.

>>106006320
surely that illiteracy is only among whites and not the bajillion illegals

>>106008625
>man its so over the sky is not blue anymore
>aktchually according to objective logic blue is not better because its nathural
Fallacy of fallacies, and a ideological one that denies natural order/law philosophy

>>106007734
To understand the 2022 lines is the great filter of this thread...
Lemme put in gentle words:
There's a drought happening since (insert year here), but 2022 was the TIPPING point where things became insufferable

>>106009841
You do have some fast downhill trends like after facebook, after 2016 elections and after coronachan

>>106010077
imo corona didnt do much to the internet as a "meeting place"

the world becoming /pol/ for the 2016 election probably did the most damage overall

>>106010309
Ukraine war also did guarantee the /pol/ world trend continued

>>106006127
onsen sex with kasumi

>>106010336
nah normies got sick of that media cycle pretty quick. turns out only boomers care about russian doings and they were too scared by their pensions running out and social security falling apart to be bullied by MSNBC into thinking its the cold war again

>>106006010 (OP)
just use yandex why are you so mad lol

>>106006128
literally when icanhascheezburger and 9gag were created the internet became so fun

>>106010877
ok

>>106010891
i meant the opposite
NO FUN

>>106006010 (OP)
>dead internet
they destroying the library of alexandria again, right in front of us.

>>106011226
And thanks to foreign invaders

I don't think much has changed between 2019 and 2025, to be honest.
Plus, people still make personal websites. The proportion of good shit only decreased in relative terms, not in absolute terms.

>>106006010 (OP)
fediverse fags were right, start moving

>>106013607
>start moving
To which mastodon instance, anon?

>>106006052
That's my wife. Stop talking to her. Phagget.

>>106013729
You are a bad husband if you let your wife smoke
She will die and all you will have left is a stinky nicotined house
And when you go outside and smell other people smoking it will remind you of your dead wife and you will cry
Stop her while you still can

>>106013729
She's mine

imagine a soijak saying all of OP's text

>>106015468
Imagine a soijak pissing all over your mom

>>106015633
:(

>>106015645
Don't mind that retard, fren. I'm sure your mother is a highly educated and nice woman. Unlike that anon mom who clearly did a bad job raising him because he said mean stuff to you out of nowhere.

>>106015645
>>106015671
>>106015681
I thought the hugbox website was called reddit

>>106015770
imagine a soijak saying your post

>>106015803
imagine a soijak shitting on your lawn

>>106015823
:(

>>106015834
>:)

>>106015848
why are you green

>>106015854
I eat avocados

>>106006010 (OP)
I sound like a broken record at this point but if you want to find real people you should give bulletin boards a try. Any BBS you will find will be run by an individual and the tech is too old and obscure to attract and commercial interests.
The communities are small but different boards are linked by nets like fidonet or tqwnet which allows people to message each other despite being on boards.
Its not for everyone but it's fun and the ANSI art is cool. If you like it you can even host your own with ease.
So stop being a faggot and do something about it.

>>106015770
No. We are called four channel.

>>106015863
you're a flamingo?

>>106015867
I thought about BBS too, it has the natural filter of being too obscure
But I'm not sure, I tried IRC servers before, and it was just dead, is BBS gonna be different?

>>106015876
Why is the symbol a leaf, are you Canadian?

>>106015867
all BBS's are dead as fuck

>>106015886
these are red, 'non

>>106006010 (OP)
Post more cute Mordred
NOW

>>106015902
i meant the property of taking on the color of the food you eat

>>106015863
you must really love penis

>>106015912
T-they are able to do that?

>>106015896
We are not Canadian. The leaf would be red if so. But as you see the leaf also eats avocados.

>>106015920
don't say this stuff in public, nonny....
what's even the relationship between these??

>>106015921
that's why they're pink. baby flamingos are white. so i just kinda thought maybe you were like that, like you used to be black like other text but ate a bunch of green stuff and became green

>>106015923
I'm glad to hear that, the leaf must be healthy
In my browser favicon it shows blue though

>>106015931
>Flamingos turn pink because of the food they eat, specifically carotenoids found in algae and crustaceans
Geez I never heard about this before

>>106006010 (OP)
>Stinky

>>106015925
imagine a trans soijak saying this

>>106015896
The one I frequent the most is 20forbeers. Its not dead but it is not like 4chan, the pace is slower. I log in once a day, read the different threads and post, and then log off.
This board is rather old school in that you only get two hours or so a day so make sure you bank your extra time each day that you don't use it all so you can deploy it later if you want to idle.
So yeah it is not a 4chan replacement but the slow pace encourages higher quality/longer posting

>>106015944
imagine a trans anime girl saying this

>>106015938
Leaf ate blueberry recently, that's why. It can be red too after consuming enough blood. The standard is green.

>>106015901
Why don't you help change that? People bitch about the modern net and so nothing to change it. Join a BBS, host a Gemini capsule, do anything on an alternative platform.
The technology exists and all people need to do is stop visiting corporate slop sites.

>>106015958
imagine a trans soijak saying that

>>106016015
i dont though, 4chan is the closest to a normalfag website i visit, outside of online banking and ebay.
as for finding these BBS's, i literally can't. i know of like, 3 and they all have a sub 5 PPD. what am i supposed to do, samefag it a hundred times a day?
evidently, you're posting here and not a BBS
i don't mean to be hostile but i feel like your post is kind of idealistic and misinformed.

>>106016015
NTA, but is there some BBS without registration for me to see what it looks like?

>>106016036
Read my other post, they are different technologies and one is not a direct replacement for the other. One can and should use both.
And with respect to the low amount of posts that might be true on the local boards but between all the different nets you will see far more than five.
Regardless something is as alive as you want it to be. You can turn 5 into 6, is that idealistic, maybe but it us also the truth.
Breathing life into something is hard and it requires people to make the effort. If you don't want to make the effort, fine, but don't bitch.

>>106016050
You can find some with a guest login but you don't need to use any personal info. I never give a real name. Just choose a handle, fudge the rest, and you are good to go. You may need a real email but that is what cock.li is for.

>>106016099
i really do appreciate your optimism but i've just found this never to be the case. i've only ever seen small communities like this fizzle out and die. its just the reality of things. if you have fun doing it, that's all that matters, but don't expect these things to take off.
ultimately, the crowd who used to share the true hacker ethic aren't gonna return. its sad but it's true.

>>106016152
NTA, but the problem is caring about things "taking off"
Quantity over quality is what ruins the internet nowadays

>>106016162
it has to have a reasonable amount of activity, though. even 100~ PPD would suffice, but most of these places seldom crack 10 PPD

>>106016162
Bingo, mass appeal is a suckers game. Maybe all that it will ever be is a few hundred or thousand people in the world but there is nothing wrong with that.

>>106016186
you dont need to read 100 ppd
also if you have ten sites with 10 ppd then there's your 100ppd

>>106016191
its not about mass appeal, its just about any appeal.
>>106016200
i would like about that though.
also, i dont really like sites with accounts. textboards are my preference to BBS, and they're dead as hell.

>>106016200
The local boards dont get much traffic but the nets that link them do. Think of it being federated. The action takes place between the different users on different boards talking to each other.
It is still a small community, don't get me wrong, but plenty of action for an hour or two a day reading/posting.

>>106006010 (OP)
I put together a small timeline of the major events which have irreparably damaged the internet:
Google became profitable: 2003
Google acquired YouTube: 2006
iPhones released: 2007
Death of Dennis Ritchie: 2011
Social Media Rise + Migrations (Facebook,Twitter,Instagram,Twitch): 2012
Microsoft + Google got Indian CEOs: 2015 (Satya Nadella)
Google got an Indian CEO: 2015 (Sundar Pichai)
COVID-19: 2019–2021
AI released (mainstream generative): 2022–2023

All originality and nuance is being censored and monitored by thieves who are unoriginal and steal your work off GitHub, with the tools people like you built for free.

>>106006010 (OP)
Good.

>>106016377
The launch of Discord needs to be on there. Servers absolutely killed niche online communities and forums.

>>106016377
Now the AI released would be alright, if it wasn't for the massive amount of idea and credit stealing third worldies who have built a protective poo castle around their rich fundies.

But the poo wall selectively allows poos into the poo castle.

>>106016408
Once it is acquired by a poo conglomeration, it will be enshittified.

>>106016377
Niche communities can be restored but it will require people with vision and discipline. Deploying the software is the easy part but getting people to contribute is hard. Everyone wants a ready made community but that is not possible.
People that are interested need to find a place they like and use it, post, whatever and keep doing that every day or week or whatever.
It is like exercise, the first day is the most difficult, but it will get better each day after.

>>106006010 (OP)
Yeah. And fuck it. I started like gardening

>>106006066
>coomer
Or just doomer. Or both. We can only guess.

>>106015925
allegedly avocado tastes just like a penis

>>106016725
man i gotta try mashing my penis and putting it on toast

>>106012497
>And thanks to foreign invaders
Dumbphones in any country are worse, since they enable low income people globally. On top a phoneposter has no incentive to stay in a conversation, they will write between shits or rides in public transportation. An office worker slacking or a NEET can reply in time and actually have presence.

>>106012977
>I don't think much has changed between 2019 and 2025, to be honest.
Same and it went downhill when Discord obsoleted imageboards. But then again you can say, Discord will always be boring and shit because namefagging creates more tension. I couldn't be on a Discord server with some annoying person and not hate his guts. They are other digital ruins where people disable all notifications instead @me/(You)

>>106015896
>, it has the natural filter of being too obscure
>But I'm not sure, I tried IRC servers before, and it was just dead, is BBS gonna be different?
not really and IRC is dead because it is mostly people messaging each other directly, which is gay when Signal desktop is cross platform and has real security.

>>106015947
>So yeah it is not a 4chan replacement but the slow pace encourages higher quality/longer posting
Seems cool but really impractical when you want to view files and images directly. The closest thing that would spark my interest would be an electronics forum. Russian imageboards have sometimes better categories and if you want to keep normies out, obscure fields of interest can provide better fragmentation. /g/ sucks because they cannot make a consoomerist /g/.

Even virtual tubers got their own containment board. There should be a board for consumer electronics, hobbyist electronics and programming. Often interesting threads die because some expert who is only online a few days a week will never see them. The inherent slowness is a good thing. Consumer boards move faster, that's normal

>>106016228
>its not about mass appeal, its just about any appeal.
The appeal about 4chan is the concept of Anonymous. There is no inherent need that we always recognize the same people across all threads and even boards. Such things only cause friction and social tensions. We might yell at each other over a subject but be highly agreeable in another thread over a shared enemy and anti-feature.
Reddit is largely cancerous because of the voting system, reward driven posting and echo chamber of freak opinions. I've seen people with 100k karma who were part of a group that bullied the fox lady to suicide. If post karma is high, it doesn't mean anything. It can be the most low life sociopathic individual you can imagine, and of course it was a gay furry.

>>106016470
https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths

good moderation of a website might be the great filter of how communities die. too lax and too harsh never is good. it also was a mistake to hire asean mods and jannies. should have been only EU/US based mods

>>106010877
>icanhascheezburger
I still remember the meltdown when they starting selling meme t-shirts with memes stolen from /b/ (when /b/ had intelligent life).

>>106017991
Thanks for that fascinating read anon. I don't really find anything to disagree with and I can relate to the desire to keep things small with a high barrier to entry. The history of 4chan is in that article.

>>106018373
Glad you gave the article your time. 4chan used to be what other people call a blogroll these days. It was a site where you'd be informed about world issues in real time and less so consumerism. Hacker News is terrible now, it's just AI subjects and my favourite blogger posting interesting links was fighting for his life in a hospital, but he is recovering now. We used to be a site that refined good from bad content by weeding out slop.

>>106018411
Why am I even explaining this. God I hope the oldanons are still here. I have become the senile millennial talking about my past

>>106018481
I have nowhere else to go. Well OK that is not exactly true but like I said above a BBS while great is not a replacement for 4chan. Image boards are their own animal and there is no place like here.
But this place has become to well known and the smaller boards don't provide enough dopamine, addiction is a bitch.

>>106018506
>I have nowhere else to go
It sounds sad, but isn't it more like no other site gives us this unbothered experience? You can make a fool out of yourself here, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter because you are Anon and nobody can shun you for it.
>a BBS while great is not a replacement for 4chan
My only criticism is they are too low tech. The art is very pleasing and nice to look at, but it's lacking otherwise
>boards don't provide enough dopamine, addiction is a bitch
Don't know, I suffer from ADHD and dopamine is always busted when not on Ritalin. Dopamine is not addictive btw.
https://archive.is/nSH96

Maybe I should not get into epigenetics here but I might as well.
Stress can fuck up acetyl groups and methyl groups on a DNA and histone level. That means your body can over or under produce receptors for serotonin, which causes depression. That mechanism is largely stress and inflammation triggered. Inflammation is caused by poor sleep and bad diets too.

Modern society itself is killing us mentally. Did you know that FOMO (fear of missing out) and anxiety is not dopamine driven, but serotonin driven? Droomscrolls and algorithmic feedback loops are supposed to screw your serotonin.

seems like there's few men of culture in this thread, and while I don't really have anything to add since you've mostly said it all, I just want to say I appreciate you being here. makes it feel little less hopeless despite the situation being quite grim

I swear the entire fucking internet became a game of whack a mole where everbody is bashing every statement to feel superior with everybody ending up feeling worse in the end, along with corporate retardation and incompetence seeping through every little crack they make in every one of their websites that everyone uses because they don't want to be ignored or left behind by the herd of retards that ignore them anyways.

>>106018712
>everbody is bashing every statement to feel superior
that's just malignant narcissism on under-moderated sites. 4chan has a lot of report options, but rarely psychos get banned here for acting out too hard.
>corporate retardation and incompetence
In what way? trolls drive click numbers up. it's tolerated here to insult everyone because the posting frequency goes up. that the quality is shit is wilfully ignored.

>>106018789
arguably the insults and name calling are a way to mark an in-group from an out-group.
>do you say normalfag or normie
>do you post anime girls or do you post frogs
these are all ways to mark your post as belonging to one group or the other. everyone may be anonymous but people want to belong and be a part of something.
the shit flinging is a part of that

When you design your next online community, I suggest self-hosting a bespoke system on a SoC and following the example of Chuck Moore with Forth:
>reinvent the wheel
>reject standards
>keep it close to the metal
>keep it small and low power

>>106018834
saten ah ah ah

>>106018834
>arguably the insults and name calling are a way to mark an in-group from an out-group.
I don't think shunning tactics work if you really understand what the concept of Anonymous means. It means I don't really care what you call me, I am faceless and I have to rep to defend on a site. People bragging on 4chan don't understand being Anon. Each day you close your session and go to bed, you leave this site with empty pockets. You cannot take your e-cred with you the next day.

Slurs will do 1 thing exactly perfectly and reproducibly: People will go to a different tab and talk to someone more intelligent and willing to write a long post.

>>106016016
this post is the perfect example of a truly worthless post contributing nothing. he didn't even get any reply, other than mine pointing out that he is a failed troll

If you think name calling will keep the site alive, sure, picrel btw
take it with a grain of salt and not a personal attack. all posts under 10 words could be deleted on this site and nobody would notice

>>106018789
>that's just malignant narcissism on under-moderated sites.
I see it on every website, wheter it be this one, twitter, youtube, reddit, etc. People don't care about agreeing, they just want to be right.
>In what way?
The more you look into modern technology you realise it's stupid people all the way down, the only difference is they believe themselves to be capable unike the rest.

>>106018916
>and I have to rep to defend on a site
no rep[utation]

>>106018846
I have absolutely no idea what you are even trying to say rn

>>106018925
sorry it was my animalistic insticts kicking in after seeing her

>>106018924
>they just want to be right
Sure, I want to be right as well, but my ability giving me some worth is that I am willing to learn and change my standpoint. Most people take intelligent people sharing useful info with them as personal attack. If telling someone something cool, maybe the person was just excited and NOT flexing on them. Usually dumb people are super easy to offend, something something cognitive dissonance.
>you realise it's stupid people all the way down, the only difference is they believe themselves to be capable unlike the rest
I see your point and it appears to be so. Maybe movies are a great example. Some movies make use of a narrator type character that asks dumb questions and the other characters explain it to the character.
I feel when we bowed down to allow every dummy to be included and kept in the loop via cheap narrative devices, companies appealed to the lowest common denominator, because dumb people are potential customers as well.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/jan/17/not-second-screen-enough-is-netflix-deliberately-dumbing-down-tv-so-people-can-watch-while-scrolling
It's so bad already, even media notices. And I hate media.

excellent thread
made me forget all about my plans to go to sleep

You're a big man for babysitting /xivg/ but are you man enough to babysit a meth orgy?

For me, the internet officially died when various game developer forums shut down in favor of just using places like Discord or Twitter. Specifically, it was when the Elder Scrolls forums switched to their fucking god awful Bethesda Forums approach and then a few years later were mercifully killed.
Nothing will ever replace the TES forums for me. The level of in-depth autistic discussion about mods, gameplay, lore, and then general discussion was too awesome throughout the 2000s and early 2010s.
At least the UESP forums still exist and are relatively active.

>>106018846
>>106018916
>hornyposters along with very smart posters in complete harmony
Ahhhh....this is the 4chan I remember

>>106017754
>namefagging creates more tension
I disagree that namefagging is the main issue. It's just that discord inherently encourages homogeneity and low-effort posting.

>>106021222
maybe powertripping forum mods and registered since $year and $postcount bring back terrible memories of what we escaped from on 4ch
>discord
also very hit an miss depending on who runs the serv
i left most instances because of people getting angry and jealous with me when the admin took a liking
they have some weird issues with new users who are fun replacing them

>>106018411
>Hacker News is terrible now, it's just AI subjects
I was already aware of the article you posted because I read it some time ago on hacker news. I wouldn't call it terrible, interesting things still do get posted there occasionally, and it's easy to filter out the AI garbage.
4chan is the same. Maybe it's not as good as it once was, but it's not too bad. This thread is good, even if I disagree with OP.

>>106018916
>I don't think shunning tactics work if you really understand what the concept of Anonymous means
not him, but that's the point. It works against the out-group while being a no-op for the in-group.
>pic
This principle applies to most groups with defined rules or customs. Outsiders often adopt only the superficial rules and miss the group's core purpose. Even high society with all of its etiquette crap is affected by the same dynamic he described.
That said, etiquette is not inherently bad. It can can still serve as a useful heuristic for distinguishing sincere members from pretenders. Calling people normalfaggots and posting anime girls is 4chan's version of etiquette, and really it's not much different from other customs.

>>106017754
>Same and it went downhill when Discord obsoleted imageboards.
Discord obsoleted every fucking thing, I hate this piece of shit service with a passion you wouldn't believe.
>obsoleted forums
>obsoleted imageboards
>obsoleted Steam chat/groups
>obsoleted Skype, TeamSpeak, Mumble
>obsoleted IRC
>obsoleted Reddit
>obsoleted every fucking thing, without being indexed, every fucking community requires Discord to """speak""" with anyone, emails don't fucking exist anymore
>can't find any fucking thing anymore unless the information you're looking for is on some random Wiki
>it's so bad that Fandom has become useful

I. Hate. This. Fucking. Thing.
>

>>106022674
forums, IRC, and imageboards were dying or dead way before pisscord came along.

>>106022674
The social conventions of discord are what annoy me like nothing else as well. It leads to extremely unhealthy narcissistic, terminally online behavior. I'm great at it but ideally you used the internet to get away from this in the real world, not try to fit into a thousand high school cliques all over again.

>>106021305
Like this. The insane, sociopathic and mentally ill will dominate server topics and most things on the platform are treated as a social competition with the hidden and locked away nature of servers not helping. It's terrible. The platform is conducive to quick spats of rapid, low quality throwaway conversation while being awful at replacing the type of discussion forums were for and yet it's the only option for most communities with the current state of the public net.

>>106025098
Discord people don't understand boundaries, the moment you are online they try to force themselves on you. Early millennial life was regular scheduled phone calls and going to a second place like a parking lot or skater area and loiter around, when everyone was free and it felt never forced

>>106022787
some of them that were nor having enough subforums

gaming or particular games are too short lived these days

>>106006010 (OP)

cy-x.net is your only solution and this is very simple
Zoomies can't into properly reviving the web. Take this site which is managed by people who actually know what oldfaggotry is like. 'Unraidable'.

This is the kind of autism that I appreciate:
>?mode=topic&id=150

>You can't just pretend that you're 'nostalgic for the old internetz' when you sit on Discord as your primary online communication vector, paying for Nitro (and subsequently rewarding them for their centralization and privacy violating efforts) and only consume your content through massive conglomerates who will never go back to their olden ways..
>And additionally, just to add onto that, why do these people think these large companies even cared about them in the first place? They were bad then and they will be bad now, with plenty of evidence and simple research that someone can find on their own to prove it. However, Zoomers will not know this information in the first place, because they were small children.

>They will not care about that information, either, because LARPING matters more than being accurate to the source material, as long as they can be given affirmation from others for it.
>They aren't nostalgic for any sense of community or gathering, they're nostalgic for when they were small children looking at shiny web icons. They don't appreciate the technological designs behind it nor do they desire to actually drop modern ones for the ones of old; They can only see the very surface of what they're after.

>>106006128
Confirmed millennial
The internet died when it went mainstream in the 90s
It's infinite summer on top of infinite summer
Gone are the days of the baud modem, phreaking, and real anonymity

>>106028436
god imagine being 45+ on 4chan. peak utter failure.

>>106010017
>"natural" order
>there are countless differing accounts of nature and of order

>>106028560
Enjoy not being able to afford anything while my generation holds onto OUR wealth

>>106028595
plenty of gen x are burnout losers too don't kid yourself. you guys and elder millennials are just gonna be the last generations to own houses and retire though.

Troons ruined culture forever. It's over.

>>106028617
>are just gonna be the last generations to own houses and retire though.
well yes I will inherit my parents house when they die, a thing I don't want to happen any time soon, but don't kid yourself even with my saving I will be working forever.
although part of that is I think lack of work is associated with death. one needs to stay busy and one needs to have other people depend on them. even if its only two or three days a week i will do something.
better alive and miserable than dead and burred.

>irrelevant lust-provoking image
>incoherent, melodramatic, time-wasting rant

>>106006010 (OP)
>>low quality users seeping into all communities, not just normies but also indians

LET'S BAN ALL OF THE INDIANS

>>106028985
a post with an anime girl is like a man with swastika arm band, it marks his membership in a group. even anonymous people create cliques and that makes the lust-provoking image relevant.

>>106012977
>shiggydiggy
>famalam
shit man, this takes me back

>>106013607
the fediverse is gay, either join walled off leftist instances or retarded rightoid instances

>>106029090
Ah, good to know that low-quality posters will be identifiable when it's time for them to face the wall

>>106029293
Anime website

>>106006388
New chapter out??
Holy shit, Rocks is literally the goat. How the fuck he jobbed to Goyp and Goyger?

bump

>>106028436
>The internet died when it went mainstream in the 90s
you are retarded if you believe 21 million people GLOBALLY means something was "mainstream"

>>106006010 (OP)
Retards ruin everything, simple as that.

>>106018834
>way to mark an in-group from an out-group
>belonging to one group
>>106022270
>works against the out-group while being a no-op for the in-group
>most groups with defined rules or customs. Outsiders often adopt only the superficial rules and miss the group's core purpose
>>106029090
>it marks his membership in a group
Idiot-kun discovered a new trope to babble on about in a mindless new drivel for weeks!

Beware of the mind trap of mass consciousness. Your thoughts are not your own but have been conditioned by the mob of tribalism. Having a sense of belonging is wonderful, but it is disastrous when we diminish the other.

Group think is for NPC humans. When everyone is thinking alike, no one is thinking.
Looking up to someone else to know "is this safe for me to have as opinion?" is not 4chan.
There is no gay "collective" here.

>>106031827
This. Being anonymous means radical hyper-individualism. Law should defend me from the state as it should defend me from my neighbour.

>>106006010 (OP)
The internet will never die
https://youtu.be/47w-6VfST5U

>>106031827
>There is no gay "collective" here.
I am collectively gay does that count? These niggas got me tossin shit. Bitches get jealous and then they die

>>106006659

The most annoying and disgusting part though is pretentious pseudo intellectual midwits posting as soma upper class intellectuals with one or two books halfway read lmao

Stfu, retard.

>>106031827
It's a midwit take to think that common tropes, like posting anime slop or saying nigger, automatically equate to groupthink. It's like under8s thinking they're some kind of rebels for not adhering to social norms while not doing anything of genuine substance.

Also
>Idiot-kun
>-kun
ironic.

>>106031939
Very jewish of you

>>106031945
He explicitly spammed the word group and implied 4chan is some kind of group effort. Why would I even bother if you already move the goalposts and start to redefine the argument manipulative to suit you?

read the quotes again, slower >>106031827
>ironic
your mother is IRONic once a month when she leaks Fe-hemoglobin

>>106032030
>group is le groupthink!!!
A group is just another word for a set you tard.

>>106032063
>rephrases a word with thesaurus to have a strawman to tear down the argument more easily
I read Niccolo Machiavelli's The Prince, make some more effort for me to entertain me more

>>106006010 (OP)
There are no lurkers anymore. The death of forums and their replacement by other types of social sites that encourage any participation means people that before would read and when having sometimes something half interesting to share, now feels compelled to share even the dumbest takes all the time.

>>106032132
wow anon this reference made you sound real smart. you totally won that argument.

>>106032159
And all you did was distract from how you lost thea argument here already when I dismantled your failed group logic >>106031827
Maybe you can bury it again under 20 posts with logical fallacies

>>106032518
Me on the left

>>106006128
Shut up faggot. Some completely hopeless fat autist just has to grandstand and hand wave because he's still bitter about a wave of enshitification from 15-20 years ago.

>>106032518
>all you did was distract from how you lost the argument when I dismantled your failed group logic
You have done absolutely nothing to support your point, other than claim that what I said is a logical fallacy without justification, or make unrelated references to appear more intelligent. You're either disingenuous or a genuine dimwit. But I'll assume you're arguing in good faith one last time. Feel free to give a genuine counter argument, but fuck off with your cheap replies.

Again, just because you have a group defined by some common tropes does not automatically mean it's affected by groupthink. 4chan itself is a good example with extremely different opinions on nearly anything. People generally shitting on each other, saying slurs, posting degenerate imagery, being politically incorrect and the overall freedom are all among the aspects that together define 4chan. That's a group, that's culture. And it's worth preserving against the ever rising tide of homogeneous and safe internet slop, which is exactly what shunning is for.

>>106006293
Why would you get a physical collection of books in this day and age when you can read just about anything online for little to no money? To show off to superficial faggots like you?

>>106008689
I think the term you were really looking for is authentic rather than organic. Of course, the one or two pseudo intellectual retards in this thread will jump at the opportunity to call that "moving the goal post", rather than just refining your thoughts and ideas. People who throw around logical fallacies like we all don't know about them are so insufferable. It's peak midwit behavior.

>>106006010 (OP)
Another spaz angry at normal people for being well adapted.

>>106007965
>;3
Return to preddit.

>>106033091
used already in IRC days nu-shit

>>106006221
>a midwit tourist
>>106031939
>pseudo intellectual midwits
>>106031945
>It's a midwit take
>>106032919
>It's peak midwit behavior
The human NPC learned a new word it will now regurgitate forever the rest of the year until a podcast gives him a new flavour of the month buzzword!

>>106033460
>WOAH THEY USED THE SAME WORDS
what a useless post, get the fuck out of here

>>106033446
Most commonly by furries and troon freaks of nature yes.

>>106033273
this is the way

>>106033497
Why do you midwit fake being intelligent me?

>>106006010 (OP)
yes, and? how does this affect you personally?

>>106033963
By making things hard to find and the virtual places I knew suck? Faggot

>>106028579
>he thinks the accounts of nature are nature itself
And the word "cup" can hold water somehow, probably on the "u" letter

>>106006010 (OP)
>cumbait picture
so, I discovered that the root of the problem is the people and not the platforms.
masons ruining the economy made people become obsessed with mammon.
mammon worshipping made people sell and scam all the time
sell and scam made stuff soulless and fake
and that's were we are at
conclusion: satanists (masons) ruined the world

>>106034925
>eyecandy is coombait
Also
>the problem is the people
You are getting somewhere
>satanists (masons)
Now you got derailed by populism

>>106034889
pretty sure the "u" letter wouln't hold water at all - it would just flow out of the front and back

>>106035015
It's just transparent in the front and back

>>106009198
>"I HATE MEN WHY ARE THEY SUCH CREEPS"
>has an onlyfans
>sells her underwear
>calls sex work empowering but had a problem with strippers a decade ago
Its so bogus broseph

>>106015770
/r9k/ is the original hugbox

>>106006010 (OP)
Rmemeber the CIA made google and facebook. The governments of the world are at fsult for this destruction.

>>106006320
Don’t see whats so bad about 50% being illiterate. Avg IQ is charitably 98. Do you think people at or below 98 are capable of literacy unless constantly prompted by a schoolteacher? Nature is healing.

>>106035229
It's caused by a long line of mistakes
>protestants wants people to read the bible so perhaps they end on the same dumb and populist conclusions
>freemasons believing that somehow the average people can be like kings and nobles if given the opportunity
>modern liberals following all these trends and believing they can fix the dumbest and most violent people through "education"
But now, all this is imploding

>>106035008
t. mason

>>106034867
skill issue

>>106035008
>>106035464

>>>/x/
23/33°

>>106035472
The masons caused >>106035464
But the average people were already dumb

>>106035486
>shits on your floor, making you unable to walk around
skill issue

this pretty much

>>106038786
He not only introduced computers to the retards and normies, but also made them dumb and sterile, and also started with the pajeetification with his love for India
I fucking hate Steve Jobs and would piss on his grave

>>106039083
what you describe would have happened with or without Steve Jobs.

>>106039917
But he speed it up, and his company is the one that contributes the most to this trend nowadays