hmm i'd like to have a backup of my most important chats with my friends and loved ones in case I lose my phone
>no you cant backup your own data
what? surely i can. i have years of data on here and the desktop apps dont have all my history
>NO! youre not allowed
why?
>because.. BECAUSE you just CANT, OKAY!?

iTards BTFO

>secure messenger
>backing up chats
Is this a meme for normies or retards? Does the word ephemeral mean anything to you?
Every message must self destruct, no exception. Screencap something (don't!) or copy a message to a txt file.
Who the fuck archives their shit?
>reads text from gf from a decade ago and cries that she is with 3 children now
this is OP

>>106006131 (OP)
Wdym? Signal has backup PIN.

(that makes them save ur data on their servers, but they claim to own nothing about users wink wink)
With a privacy policy last updated in 2018 wink wink

Use a serious app.

>>106006131 (OP)
It's their service, and you and your friends and loved one (male) use it for free, maybe you should make your own platform if you don't like it?

>>106007270
you should be able to archive anything to a secure storage
>Who the fuck archives their shit?
tear all your childhood photos while you're at it

>>106007309
Saving chats is fucking useless. You will never read them again + if something is important store it properly. Don't expect chat apps to be like safes lol

>>106006131 (OP)
https://soundcloud.com/ytcracker/ytcracker-my-element

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLgCzFN_LDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGiUhjuB22Y

>>106007309
My childhood photos are in nature, not a secure messaging app. I'm too tired to look up your logical fallacy but it's of the type X != Y, does not equate, also non-sequitur for your next reply just in case

btw extreme black and white thinking is a sign of BPD
how are childhood photos part of your OPSEC? get help

>>106007318
>if something is important store it properly
I imagine that's what OP wants to do? it's just the app doesn't let him.
>Don't expect chat apps to be like safes lol
no one does.

>>106007327
>My childhood photos are in nature
stopped reading right there, clearly a schizo

>>106006131 (OP)

This is one of the things I absolutely love about singal. In the age before facebook messages would disappear every now and then with regular intervals. A phone would break, be lost of just replaced and all the shit I said will be gone forever! NOT in the age of facebook. 15 year old chatlogs are still there, for all to see.

>>106007336
>t.

You can backup your chats with Signal. They are stored on your device and not on any servers.

>>106007281
The backup PIN is used for transferring Signal's settings, profile, contacts and blacklist, not your messages.
Signal's protocol is great and Signal leaks minimal metadata, the thing that is actually being collected by big tech. Signal is also most popular out of the privacy preserving apps, you need people to begin with for chatting and it's easier to get people on board if they've already heard about the app. Wide adoption also helps with privacy.
You can also use Molly for FOSS app with google push services removed.

>>106007349
>They are stored on your device and not on any servers.
>The backup PIN is used for transferring Signal's settings, profile, contacts and blacklist

Not anon but are you retarded? You just contradict yourself faggot. So it's means they store data about you without telling you? That seem sus. At least whatsapp tells you what they do on your data but this shit is next level CIA bullshit.

>>106007349
>settings, profile, contacts and blacklist,
Still more than the nothing they claim about.
Transfer protocol is good, yes. But they are claiming something false

>>106007386
>it's means they store data about you without telling you?
Exactly.
It's little data, but they claim of storing NOTHING. Based on their old and never updated policy from 2018.
For an app that makes privacy first, its shitty behavior.
Other than that, they also frequently ban peopl from their forum that criticize Signal in any way.

>>106007386
>>106007349
that's grossly misexplained
https://signal.org/blog/secure-value-recovery/
>Notice that master_key incorporates c2 (256 bits of secure random data), so an attacker can not brute force it, regardless of the passphrase that was chosen.
if you think 256 bit is not enough, why are you even here. nothing will be secure by that logic.

>>106006131 (OP)
holy retard. just back them up under settings -> chats > chat backups. i know it may be difficult, but try to use the peanut in your skull a little more effectively

>>106007418
you didn't answer my question, dip shit. I don't care what encryption they use the fact they don't say anything about user data collection is enough for me that this piece of shit messenger is another CIA Anom situation. Hang yourself Glow boi

>>106007436
i don't have to because I am NTA and I hijacked your conversation, which I replied to both of you to make it clear there are 3 people talking
read the specs or don't

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/5440120029082-Re-registering-using-your-Signal-PIN
>Signal updates introduce an optional way to re-register your Signal account
>Signal updates introduce an optional way
>an optional way
>optional

>>106007436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoLI9FHmV90
I love to glow

>>106006131 (OP)
what are you talking about

>>106007593
>he doesn't know what iOS is
nta but read the thread before posting
read past the first 10 posts
just try it
once

>>106007429
Need some third party tools to get plain text though. Muh usecase fags making things needlessly hard as usual.

>>106007651
>>106007429
>have desktop
>decrypt SQL db
>run a simple loop to export
>this is hard
I don't want to be on this technology board with these illiterates

>>106007615
iOS is referenced where? I genuienly cant find any reference.
Also can't you backup chats on iOS because that would be funny

>>106007675
>Also can't you backup chats on iOS because that would be funny
this is actually true and the point
remember how even NFC is locked down on apple, you can read, but you cannot emulate tags. because they only want applePay to be able to emulate NFC tags

>>106007615
maybe wash the cum out of your eyes and read them yourself. not my problem that itoddlers cant export chats

>>106007429
weird, it's not there in desktop app

>>106007704

>>106007675
>>106006186

>>106007769
android only

>>106008028
it's not really needed on desktop, because those files are easily accessible in user directory. still, they are encrypted and imo app should let me export everything in decrypted form to a secure storage.

>>106007662
>decrypt SQL db
Which requires replicating a chunk of code from Signal just to implement a feature which should be in there in the first place.

Needlessly hard because of not my usecase fags.

>>106007876
I guess that qualifies
Assuming that OP is talking about iOS because of a random reply seems like a leap tho

>>106007318
I like to make statistics like which months were most active or who dropped the n-word the most.
>>106007651
>>106008116
not an issue if i could get the data
>>106007662
if i had the foresight to keep a computer running from the beginning of my use of signal it wouldnt be an issue. actually even then the desktop app stops getting messages after 2 weeks of not logging in so going on
vacation essentially deletes messages from my archive

>>106007386
Motherfucker can you even read?
>You can backup your CHATS. THEY are stored on your device and not on any servers.
Holy fucking retard.

>>106006131 (OP)
>hmm i'd like to have a backup of my most important chats with my friends and loved ones in case I lose my phone
No chats are *that* important.

>>106006131 (OP)
You can just save pictures and other files sent in signal to your phone or computer you retard

>>106009503
they are to me. i have a tight-knit group of friends that all moved to different cities for uni and we have woven a rich tapestry that defines us as a friend group within these chats