Thread 106011672

8GB Radeon Card>>>>>>8GB Nvidia Card

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high-end: consider 2x48GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>105940279

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106002720

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super specs: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

>Omissions
RTX 5060 Ti: Both memory configs cost more than 9060 XT 16GB for the same performance and half the PCIe lanes. Only buy if you need cuda or value GeForce features that highly.
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

Hardware unboxed is a shill channel. I hate radeon niggers

>106011773
>amd vram.png
If nvidia handles vram so much better and uses so much less then why can't 12gb GeForce gpus run the same settings on games that 16GB radeon gpus can run just fine? Retarded shill.

>>106011807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RRZMI5lpmA

>>106011818
>16gb vs 8gb
nigger nigger nigger

HDD 8-16TB recommendations for backups/archiving? Drives will mostly be offline (JBOD DAS, not NAS). Thinking about Seagate BarraCudas (SMR?) or go for Ironwolf?

>>106011851
It's nvidias fault for making an 8GB gpu the 9060 XT's closest competitor in price. Dilate more.

>>106011870
Only Nvidia is kosher they're allowed to ask for more, poorfags could never understand.

>106012031
What is there to understand? Paying 30 dollars more for worse performance and textures?

>>106011851
>>106011870
>>106012031
You butt hurt boys are so cute and silly! :3

>106012031
>Admitting that nvidia=njudea
Aryans are buying RDNA 4 btw. It's Kristallnacht all over again in Germany right now. Anti-Semitic Micro Devices are kicking GoyForce ass at mindfactory and other euro retailers.

https://www.techpowerup.com/339224/intel-nova-lake-s-core-ultra-3-ultra-5-ultra-7-and-ultra-9-core-configurations-surface
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-nova-lake-core-ultra-300k-with-8p-16e-cores-to-feature-big-l3-cache-aims-to-rival-amd-3d-v-cache
It looks like the sweetspot for Nova Lake is gonna be either the 14P/24E Ultra 7 for productivity or for gaming the 8P/16E and 8P/12E variants shipping later with 144MB of Big Last-Level Cache (bLLC). If the giant loads of L3$ can manage to unfuck the latency issues Arrow Lake introduced AMD might be forced to release more X3D SKUs with Zen 6 at lower prices.

>>106012142
>If the giant loads of L3$ can manage to unfuck the latency issues Arrow Lake introduced AMD might be forced to release more X3D SKUs with Zen 6 at lower prices.
I hope so, we need competition or AMD will have no reason to not raise prices. Zen 6 is supposed to have 12 core ccds with vcache. On AM4 and would love to upgrade to a 10900x3d of whatever they end up naming it but I think the price could end up being very high.

I'm never buying an acer monitor again

Imagine being such a gigantic faggot that you have an allegiance to any gpu company

I bought a 9060 XT.

Holy shit am I so fucking over the drivers/control panel.

>have to manually create custom resolutions
>OC will simply delete itself if the driver THINKS your PC crashed
>driver blocks/inteferes with other fan control software
>90% of the tabs/pages/options whatever is bloated bullshit

Nvidiachads, AMD drivers being shit is NOT a meme. It's fucking real. I really wish there was a competitively priced nvidia option to this card in my country that didn't have gimped vram. I want to go back.

>>106012171
AMD's vanilla Infinity Fabric is awful at latency compared to Intel's Ring Bus and needed VCache to finally pull ahead.
When Intel switched to Tiles in Arrow Lake instead of their monolithic design they were put in same position AMD was in for Zen 1 & 2 before the 5800X3D was intro'd with Zen 3. Hopefully moar cache can do the same job for them as much as I'd personally like a single 8-core monolithic chip @ 16Ghz.

>>106012262
I know, can you believe someone would buy Radeon after a decade of Nvidia totally raping them to death on literally every front?

Corsair Air 5400 waiting room
>>106011853
Offline backups mean anything is fine, as long as they don't have a bad reputation I guess

faggot

Imagine wasting silicon by slapping it on a board with only 8 lanes and only 8GB of memory. What were they thinking?!

>>106012322
>@ 16Ghz
LMAOOO ARE INTARDS REALLY THIS DELUSIONAL?????

why are all of you seething over fucking computer components

american hours are awful, can you stop being such brand bitches for 5 seconds

What is the minimum current gen CPU to be future proof for the next decade?

The Ryzen 7 9700x and the Ryzen 9 7900 (non x) costs the same price here, which would be better to get?

It's a Canadian 9070 XT owner and an Australian 7900 XTX owner who are projecting their insecurities.
The Canadian one can't wash away his shame of having to settle with a used GTX 1080 until he got the new toy.

>>106012323
Shit I'd buy Intel Arc over AMD 2bh. They're closer to being a legit competitor to Nvidia, despite being borderline bankrupt.

>>106012657
As if you have anything better to do mr hoity toity fancy pants.

>>106012807
I visit this thread regularly and I have no idea who this 7900 XTX aussie you've most likely made up in your head is. And the nico tranny I'm pretty sure stopped posting, I remember the faggot said he was bored and the spam reduced quite a bit. DLSS schizo is still no lifing the general however, he changed his posting style to be slightly aggressive and stopped using the old images and switched them out for new ones so people don't recognize him but he is still here no lifing the general 24/7.

>>106012919
The nico tranny is the OP, he stopped posting the images because he was too obvious to spot,
The Australian 7900 XTX owner is the Linux gamer who throws a few technical terms here and there to appear knowledgeable.

>>106012946
>Everyone that ever brand wars for radeon on /pcbg/ is the same person
This general has always had at least some brand warring because it's inevitable with this topic. Any random AMD, Nvidia, or Intel fanboy can come into this thread at any time and hijack the thread or start shit since that is the nature of an anonymous imageboard. Take your meds.

>>106012792
Do you need 12 cores?

>>106012979
Their style & pattern are very obvious to spot.
The Nicotranny frequently cites Hardware Unboxed charts, and uses the Russian benchmarks recently because he's got the DLSS schizo in his head, rent-free™.

Here's the Aussie radeton tard's work.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105919787/#105922019

Both of them are very easy to identify.

>>106012919
>DLSS schizo
Does not exist, never existed, and never will. Was a boogeyman for amdrones

Completed it on Intel Arc.

Has anyone recently ditched Windows for Linux and is thinking of switching back? Tempted to take the plunge but can't be arsed going through it all only for me to not like it

>>106013141
>t. DLSS pedo
It's hilarious you've had to totally change your posting style to try and hide after being exposed for what a sick freak you are.

>>106013157
>>106013191
Bro, what CPU are you using? I asked you in the previous threads. I'm happy for you btw.

>>106012919
>Anyone who posts images/benchmark in an image board, mass-replies in a single, efficient post, and debunks obvious bullshit posted by Radeon shitposters is the DLSS-Schizo™
Kek'd. You are so paranoid.

13700K and a 3070TI here

Should I just kill myself?

>>106013237
Did you update the motherboard BIOS? It's fine if you set CPU VR voltage limit and perhaps undervolt the CPU.
3070 Ti, just tweak some settings. What else can you do?

>>106012996
>12 cores
Not sure. Would be using it for every day use, with occasional gaming, photoshop, illustrator and maybe some AI use.

I'm just gonna buy a prebuilt I cant be bothered

>>106013294
Give us a budget and I can show you the level of performance you can expect.

>>106011672 (OP)
pcie 3.0x16 is supposed to have the same exact bandwidth as pcie 4.0x8
so why does the nvidia gpu running at 4.0x8 have half the performance of the amd gpu running at 3.0x16?
is it their retarded rebar whitelist implementation or something? I'd like to see a similar comparison but with x8 gpus from both vendors (e.g. rtx 4060 vs rx 7600)

>>106013357
>I'd like to see a similar comparison but with x8 gpus from both vendors (e.g. rtx 4060 vs rx 7600)
Check one of Daniel Owen's videos; he's done a comparison of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqFsdRQbLd4

>>106013357
What's more likely is that it's just another example of us all "misunderstanding" their benchmarks, Steve will clear this up on twitter sometime next week

>>106013324
3k

Hello, I have an R5 5600(non-X) and I wonder which GPU I can fit without bottlenecking instead of my 1080 Ti since they cut the driver support of it.

>>106013385
>Check one of Daniel Owen's videos
I fucking hate this retard, but besides, he is only testing with gen 4, which is more than enough for both of these gpus
I did find the data i was looking for here: https://youtu.be/49Hz5r8-yAw
and it's basically a tie
>>106013395
seems highly likely

>>106013397
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/28qMHW
Pick the video card, probably between the 9070 XT or 5070 Ti.
Liquid Freezer III has some complaints about tedious installation. Watch some videos before you decide on this.

I like Meshify 3/XL more than the Frame 4000D, but picked it since it's cheaper.
If you get a regular Meshify 3, you need to get a 280mm AIO if you want to install it in the top panel; the performance difference isn't too bad for the 9800X3D's power draw.

If you need to add a monitor, you need to decide between regular IPS, miniLED, or OLED.

>>106013416
Somewhere around a 5060ti-5070 class assuming you're not playing at 1080p medium. You'll still run into a little "soft bottlenecking" but you would with any CPU short of a 9800X3D.

>>106013199
Its overclocked Ryzen 1200 wich i bought used with box cooler way before Arc GPU. RAM 3600 for stability. 3800 it ran good for 5 months but then it started to bsod. Hardware reached its plateau.
Maybe i will upgrade to 1600 or 2600 or 3300x or something else used and cheap (mobo supports 5500x3d). But i already completed most games so its a bit late. PC is a working machine 12 hours per day. It not designed to be a gaming computer from scratch.

>>106013570
Voltages are nice too, ASRock HDV board living up to its reputation.
Get a Ryzen 5600

>>106013570
>Maybe i will upgrade to 1600 or 2600 or 3300x
a 5700x is like 100€, how fucking poor are you?
...and why did you even waste time turboautismo overclocking your ram on such a slow cpu, you'd probably be fine with 2133 mhz even, total retardation here.
>arc gpu
...so you also went with the gpu that has the most driver overhead? what a retarded build

>>106012171
I hope nova lake comes out and it is good that way amd gets even better. I would never buy an intel mobo again since it's obsolete within 1 year. But I like people who do so amd will lower their prices again.

>>106012318
Just run afterburner

>>106014167
LGA-1700 stuck around for 3 generations and supported both DDR4 & DDR5.
If Nova Lake-S's new LGA-1954 socket follows a similar path with firmware support updates we could be in a situation where after AM5 ends with Zen 6, AMD will be the one breaking compatibility to make use of DDR6 exclusively while Intel could continue to support both on the existing boards/RAM like during the Alder Lake era.

>>106014312
>Intel could continue to support both on the existing boards/RAM like during the Alder Lake era.
This isn't a good scenario.
DDR5 memory compatibility is suboptimal on Intel 12/13/14th gen CPUs because the memory controller wasn't dedicated to making the most out of DDR5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8en_FtA80

>>106014312
That's chill because I'm skipping am5 and ddr5 entirely and going am4>am6

Umm nvidia xisters??? Our response??? He used the jensen approved adapter cable and it was fully connected. How are we supposed to lie that it's user error this time!!!

>>106014555
must be a amded psyop or something, just keep on buying so you can save even more

>>106014555
I knew this would happen when I launched it and it was using like 500w in the main menu before I could even access the graphic settings

The people at NVIDIA ran the numbers and decided it's worth dealing with those melting connectors vs. designing a more reliable board.
Buyers are taking the "it won't happen to me" bet, good odds.

Strong desire to buy computer parts, this is hell. Must waitTM for zen 6 x3d

>>106015154
If a hole's burning in your wallet buy an OLED monitor if you don't already have one.

>>106015154
what are you upgrading from

>>106012657
Poverty does strange things to people's brains

>>106015239
Already do unfortunately, PG32UCDP. I might have to cope with new storage
>>106015294
5800X (non 3d)

>>106013141
Dlss schizo denying his own existence now LMAO

>>106015154
Buy 8700G and an itx board and make it an emulation/ casual controller machine in the living room. Little babby psu, little babby cooler, two 8gb sticks of ram. Skyreach 4 mini case. That sounds like fun.

>>106015346
Got a Pure Sine Wave UPS to protect your equipment?
I'd grab one of those if don't have one.
Also is your current PC chair meeting all your needs (you can't put a price on comfort/back support and a quality one should last you 10-12 years+)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMiE0l6ehRA

>>106015491
>Got a Pure Sine Wave UPS to protect your equipment?
yep. have a steelcase leap v2 as well. and good peripherals. literally just my pc is a bit outdated but when i see benchmarks like this it makes me want to upgrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXB3QeQtGIA

>>106015501
>Got a Pure Sine Wave UPS to protect your equipment?
yep. have a steelcase leap v2 as well. and good peripherals. literally just my pc is a bit outdated
Nice. I'd still sit tight as both Zen 6 + Nova Lake promise big gains in gaming/cache and core count increases.

For some alternative some tech ideas have you considered a robot vacuum (they now will not only vacuum & mop but also auto-empty their bags and clean/dry the mop automatically too for a completely hands-off floor cleaning machine that's no longer meme tech):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18x7YoVazF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mkqw9g6dxQ

Also if your car doesn't have one, consider a front/rear dash cam kit now that Sony's STARVIS 2 image sensor-based options have hit the market (could save you thousands in insurance claims and police citations in case the unthinkable happens):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HswpRHu_X-k

>>106015591
i think im just gonna invest in monero in the meantime. maybe build a nas instead but storage is giga expensive

Does anyone know a case that supports at least one 480mm rad, preferably two that isn't also 40kg/80ibs? Raijentek has like 3 but two are discontinued, and the Paean Ultra from last fall never got imported to the US/is otherwise unobtanium. I want to downsize from my 1000D but I don't want to spend $200 on new rads.

I got a 'dumb' question: is the 5070 more powerful than the 4070 Super when it comes to raw power or is it superior because of AI frames/Frame Gen bs?

my rtx 3080 12gb is really struggling in the 3D work I do and it's annoying the fuck out of me. how animators and 3D artist made incredible looking work 20+ years ago on toasters really makes me wonder

>>106016003
Is the 5070 even more powerful than a 4070s? I thought they were bascally the same

>>106015606
How about purchasing some really good headphones and DAC/Amplifier?

>>106016090
Buy surround sound and a racing wheel setup instead of this

Where are the best places to deal hunt?

>>106016101
Microcenter open box
Craigslist stolen goods

>asus put no usb-c on their new 1200€ 500hz qdoled
sure it's for used with a gaymen top end rig but this also limits it cucks me over if I wanna use a laptop

>msi put a fucking usb-c and dp2.1 on theirs but it's msi
>all other asus 4k are expected to be used with a laptop due to usb-c and kvm's and such but not 1440p gaymen screens

they literally cost the same but has less features and connections

>>106013027
I have all of those chart pictures saved and randomly post them from time to time. Does that make me the nico tranny?

>>106011853
Try a HGST they should be the same price used around 12tb at least.

>>106013237
>3070ti
absolutely disgusting.
literal space heater.

>>106016275
was there ever any proof the nico poster was a troon or do you guys just say that because you're newfag "tranime" hating sharty zoomers that don't know this is an anime website? maki a love live character which nico is also from is literally the queen of /g/. this alone makes me think the nico sperg has been on the site longer than any of you newfags, so i automatically prefer him over any of you nvidiot windows shills.

tldr kill yourselves reddit niggers and get off my board.

holy autism tourist meltdown

>>106014555
People are flaming the guy that burned his connector in the comments saying he has a limp wrist and did not connect the connector flush all the way, who was right in this debate?
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/our-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-12v-2x6-power-cable-has-melted/#disqus_thread

>>106016511
random pic of other 5090 FE connector as comparison

>>106016511
this one is blatantly not connected properly, you can see the pins

>>106012318
>it's so bloated
>most of the features are also offered by Shitvidia
>Adrenalin is separate from drivers, you can install drivers separately from Adrenalin
>complain anyways
Okay buddy. Just saying, I had an easier time navigating Adrenalin than the old Nvidia control panel. You don't need to create custom resolutions, your monitor should work fine as is, I litreally never needed to touch anything outside of setting my monitor to 170hz in windows settings because of defaults.
The OC thing is actually problem, but if your fucking pc crashes no shit having it reset is gonna be helpful to prevent normies from softlocking themselves out of their own devices. Just use afterburner instead faggot, not that fucking hard

>>106016511
>Still don’t believe me? Here’s a picture I took before removing the power cable. You can clearly see that it was fully plugged in. No matter how hard you push it, it can’t go in any further.
He seems pretty sure that he had plugged it in fully

>>106012792
9700x, the 7900 is pretty much 2 7600s and while that's really good for productivity apps but sucks for gaming. You get 2 groups of 6 cores which means you can really only use one group at a time, and going beyond that causes a bit of latency

>>106016625
>One of our readers noticed a “line” or “gap” in this image. That was as much as the cable could go in on our specific RTX 5090 Founder’s Edition. You can also clearly spot this “line” or “gap” at the connector in the video at the 0:12 mark. In the video, we had the RTX 5090 running for over 20 minutes at 100% usage. No burn, no smoke issues. Temps were fine (below 78 Celsius with auto fan), and power draw was correct.
>Assuming the cable wasn’t fully seated, the GPU should be smoking in the video, not working perfectly. In other words, you can’t say “I see that line, it wasn’t fully seated” but then say “Well, I see the line in the video and it wasn’t fully seated, but it did not burn and it works fine“. If you can’t 100% replicate what you say, then your assumption is not correct. That’s how things work. That’s why companies always ask you for the steps to reproduce your problem, whether it’s a hardware failure or a software issue.
Hahahaha

>>106016511
If you can plug the connector in wrong, then it's badly designed.

>>106013395
It's been getting worse as of late. I know they're AMD Unboxed for a reason but its very recently that Steve has been going all out on it. At least Tim's always there to be a moderator.

Is my cable management a problem? The cpu power cable is touching the gpu. I’m not sure how else to prevent it from touching the gpu. Will this cause problems if the cable touches the gpu?

>>106017078
Instead of from the bottom, route the CPU cable from the front of the air cooler where the 24pin comes out from

>>106017088
But then it’s going to touch the air cooler fans if I route it from the front

>>106017078
You are supposed to route that cpu cable in the back, then loop over the mobo on the top. JFC.

>>106017187
Will the cpu cable touching the gpu be a problem though?

>>106017195
I don't think it's a huge problem but it looks fucking ugly.

>>106016275
Considering this benchmark source was only used by the DLSS guy, and the fact that the nicotranny's referencing it to spite him, yes.
It's not just the charts, these kids can't help themselves.
Like this one >>106016500 is the Aussie 7900 XTX faggot, sucking nicoposter's cock like the bitch he is.

>>106016813
The way they angle it on the FE seems counter to making the plug easier to insert

>>106016813
Every plug in existence is badly designed because it relies on the human pushing it in all the way. Let's just remove humans from the equation instead.

>>106017318
Why the 8 pin connector had no issues for more than a decade then?

>>106017400
Lower power target enables poor connections to keep functioning.

Reposting because no replies in previous thread.

Is it okay if Im getting a case with 320mm GPU clearance and sticking a 315mm card in it? Im afraid that extreme proximity of GPU to the front fans will create some noisy turbulence. Anyone has experience with this?

>>106017400
People also managed to burn 8 pin connectors in the past.

i dont understand why 8gb even exist even with a 128 bus of 2x4 modules why not just use 3gb modules for 3x4 to 12gb even if u cheap out with 2x3 and 2x2 u get 10gb

>>106016813
The sensing pins are supposed to prevent this but they are only on one side.

>>106017541
It was expensive. The only consumer gpus with gddr7 were laptop 5090s. In january-march they'll give everything a super refresh with 3gb modules. We'll see 18gb 5070s and 24gb 5070ti/5080s. But nividia hates poors so the 5060s will still be either 8gb or 16gb for $500. They learned from their mistake with the 3060 to not let you have more vram for less money by giving you gddr6

>>106017534
Fuck your turbulence, if it fits, with the cables, then you good.

>>106017252
This gay russian site is fucking unbrowsable and dogshit and not only that they don't even have the gpus they just extrapolate the data so it's fake benchmarks last time I checked, so literal fucking dog shit supreme
most horrid source I've ever fucking seen

>>106017541
3gb modules have a later time to market than 2gb modules so Nvidia went with whatever was available in enough volume right now instead of delaying the GPUs by 2 quarters until 3gb modules are ready in large enough volume

>>106013651
>with 2133 mhz even
There is a difference 3200 vs 3600 no joke.
And it squeeze more fps.
>gpu that has the most driver overhead
Yes and i report issues to Intel.
They fixed few issues i reported no joke.
You can pick Arc for yourself. Its solid.

Anyone with the flux pro. Does the stock fans have rattle?

>every single reviewer of the 4k 27" 240hz qdoleds go "but I prefer a 32" in size"
was the 166ppi a meme?

>>106018020
Never used the bottom ones.
No rattle from the other ones

>>106018155
How much did gpu temp improve by putting 3rd bottom fan above psu?

>>106018104
I find 32" way too big for desk usage.

>>106018220
Not sure, I had the 3 noctua fans from before, also didn't like the empty slot above the PSU, so I installed them from the start.
There's about a 1.5cm gap between the fan and the PSU so it isn't suffocated too badly

>>106011773
owned by techspot which is owned by google

>>106018104
It's because most of them are content creators who used to having a gajillion streams/video editor windows open at once for their workflows that are easier to keep track of and organize with the extra inches. They are typically used to running multi-monitor setups for benchmarking/script writing/etc and/or probably using giant ultrawides instead at work/home. They aren't videophiles or photo/color grading enthusiasts that care about actual points of quality (aperture ratio, pixels per degree of visual acuity) unless you force them to sit down and compare panels side-by-side with content/text.

Watch them all change their tune next CES and in the months that follow when 27" 5K QD-OLEDs hit the market and deliver PPIs finally breaching what phone/tablet/laptop users have been used to for well over a decade.

>>106018230
should be even more doable on a 31.5" desk

>>106018369
that would require even more scaling 32" atleast you can get away with no scaling if you really wanted to
plus that monitor will be 120hz (allegedly) so it will be a noticable hit to smoothness and overall things too
literally no one is gonna switch to the 5k one for productivity, I swear
if they drop a 6k 32" one maybe more so
idk
we are gonna stall out on tech here hard for a sec

does anyone in this thread (who knows what they're doing) use a samsung SSD on linux? i know those phoronix results get posted a lot but crucial drives are also underperforming in his tests
i was thinking of buying a 990 PRO because i want more storage but if these results are real then obviously i'll go with something else, i'm just doubting if they are real or if he's doing something stupid like forgetting to run TRIM on these test drives

if anyone wants to test it themselves the PTS can be downloaded from here: https://github.com/phoronix-test-suite/phoronix-test-suite/releases/tag/v10.8.4
run with ./phoronix-test-suite benchmark sqlite

>>106018415
>literally no one is gonna switch to the 5k one for productivity, I swear
>if they drop a 6k 32" one maybe more so
>idk
>we are gonna stall out on tech here hard for a sec
I hope not, 5K is the bare minimum that 27" should be expected to output since we've been stagnant at the 1440p/4K level for so long already. Honestly, we should be pushing 8K as the standard by now.
The first 8K TV was released back in 2015 (10 years ago):
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1442404613
And the first 8K Monitor, the Dell UP3218K. was released in 2017:
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1490759944
And guess what? THEY ARE STILL SELLING THAT SAME FUCKING OLD PANEL EIGHT YEARS LATER FOR $3000:
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-32-8K-Monitor/dp/B0727ZQ21F
It's a disgrace and I blame the dogslow cadence of bandwidth improvements by the DisportPort & HDMI Associations for bottle-necking progress which is why I welcome China's GPMI initiative (192 Gbps) to light a fire under their asses.

What does decoupled clocks mean for the end user?

>>106018470
Most GPUs struggle with 4k already. The only use case higher res has is productivity. Sony btw left the 8k market already

Is this fine?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWps74
Stole it from someone else and did some minor modifications.

>>106018681
1tb nmve pointless, get at least 2tb
get 9800x3d instead
b850 mobo supports 1 pcie 5.0 nvme so you could consider samsung 9100, if not 990 pro 2tb is fine
the monitor is completely throwaway ips with 2015 tech, get oled instead or the ktc miniled
case seems random, get fractal north instead

>>106018592
higher clocks and easier overclocking

>>106018592
extra numbers in hwinfo

how big of a difference is ddr5 vs 4 in things like unreal engine blender? also cas latency? everything on the internet is about gaming.

>don't understand all these fancy tech words, they confuse and anger my monkey brain
>The one I bought ages ago at Best buy is showing it's age
>Don't really know any tech geeks right now to do it for me

How grug get new thinking rock? I'm not sure where to start.

>>106018775
>can't/won't even read the op
it's not for you
buy another prebuild

>>106018767
the only platform where you can choose is LGA1700
and if you want blender to go fast you go AM5

>>106018780
USA, about 2000 I guess. I'm honestly not sure how much a solid gaming PC would cost. I'm open to buying a pre built, but I'm not sure what would be a good one.

>>106018430
I use a 4TB 990 Pro on Tumbleweed, I'll try to benchmark it tonight.

>>106018767
gaming all about graphics power and latency which also transfer to real time workflows

>>106018767
only gamers have enough time to bother benchmarking ram
the working man simply uses whatever jedec profile ram he can get for cheap and doesnt think about it other than whether he has enough GBs

>>106011672 (OP)
What do we think of the ASRock B850 Steel Legend WiFi

>>106011672 (OP)
Is an 850 motherboard a better buy than a 650 now?

I hate living in a country where GPU prices are dogshit

>9060 xt 16 GB costs $480

>Closest GPU to $350 is the 7600 xt at $360

>4060 ti 8gb Is $380

fuck my chud life

>>106019153
its fine. asrock boards deleted their bad bios last year.

>>106018811
cool, i appreciate it
phoronix often publishes suspicious results
i think his testing methodology is really sloppy

https://www.phoronix.com/review/wd-black-sn8100-linux
https://openbenchmarking.org/tests
(i couldn't get the mariadb tests to compile on arch)

>>106018681
Perfectly fine performance wise.
I would pick up a 2tb disk drive myself BUT thats something you can add in the future if you can't spring the extra 80 or so bucks right now, adding a new drive in future takes 2 minutes.
I dont know about monitors, i would try to ask around for monitors specifically, but i dont see anything special about that monitor to choose that one over others that have a lot more reviews even on partpicker.
Another anon mentioned the case, that one seems fine but when spending 2k on a computer dont be shy on spending 20 or 30 or 50 extra bucks on getting a bonafide good case, it always struck me as weird how people see the case as the place where they try to skim a few bucks. So nothing against that case, just saying that you want to make sure that you get the case you want/need.

What are your thoughts on Dark Base 701 or Shadow Base 800? Are they better than premium antec, lian li, factal cases? Not enough reviews for thermals and noise.

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>106011672 (OP)
Extremely happy with my current system looking to possibly upgrade gpu at some point in the near future but no rush UDNA is looking promising along with Zen6

>>106019540
We need more AI surveillance to counter this vile antisemitism.

>>106019390
Buy it if you like the case design.
But Fractal's newer cases, like the Meshify 3/XL and Epoch bundles better fans (Momentum).
be Quiet cases bundle Light Wings or Pure Wings 3 fans, which isn't as good as their Silent Wings 4.

If you want to go full autistic about case airflow and fan noise, you need to consider things like the fan's performance at the distance between the front panel fans and the motherboard/video card.

>>106019540
Don't forget to switch the Windows for Linux while at it too

> 1080p
> ryzen 5 2600
> 3200mhz ram
> gtx 1070
Is it time to upgrade with the way modern gaming is or should I just stick to my old games?

>>106020395
buy a 16gb 9060xt and stick to old games with the ability to still play modern games

>>106018470
>three thousand dollars
>30 fps
>burn in
lol lmao

>>106013357
Buy the card and run the same tests, lemme know what you find

worth getting one of the cheapest oleds currently?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frSJc_uL0rs

>>106019284
Results are in, I ran TRIM right before just to make sure (already do so on a weekly basis). Seems to track with the chart you first posted.

>>106018020
No rattle for me either, bottom ones included.

>>106020456
>16gb 9060xt
>Bus Interface PCIe 5.0 x16
I don't think my mobo supports this,won't this bottleneck my system?

>>106020617
pretty sure it will still work but the card will just use whatever bandwidth your mobo has
i don't believe it should really make that much of a difference in gaming

>>106020395
Buy a 5060ti or 5070
Radeon is for gay people
As a used alternative the 2080ti and 3080 exist.

>>106020688
>buy a card that's only use case is dlss 4 in modern slop
lol

Tick-tock radeon niggers, your time is coming.
Apologize to Jensen while you still can, the rtx 5070=4090 prophecy is coming true.

>>106020774
yay!! more muddy smeary textures in my games

>looking at eBay drives
>ask guy for smart data
>lowers the price by $100 instead
Should I do it bros

>>106020795
They're going to have like 500 hours max of life left in them

>>106017584
how can the ceo be so jewish when hes chinese

>>106020532
that's crazy, i wonder why samsung is so bad on linux
SN850X for me then

I don't know if this is the right place to ask

I bought a 12tb hard drive. Bought it new from a reputable seller. It's come dented like this.

It's for a NAS and will be one of the main drives rather than a backup. Will it work and I just get a partial refund for the damage or is it bad enough to where I just return it and get a new one?

I read online that these Seagate Ironwolf drives come with a 3 year warranty. I checked the warranty status, it claims it expires September 2028.
How does that work? I thought it might be a used drive and I got scammed, but how do I have more warranty than I actually should?

>>106020909
It might not be used, just thrown against a brick wall by your mailman negro. I wouldn't use that, just rma it since you have warranty.
Also don't buy Seagate.

>>106020806
>his price
$499
>amazon price new
$699
It's just not worth it I don't think, unless he posts the smart data.

Might not be the best thread to ask, but my question os related to gaming rigs I guess.
As an owner of an 1440p LG oled monitor, would it make sense for me to upgrade from win10 to win11 because of the better HDR support? I was told that HDR is much better on win11 than on win10, however, I have no experience with how great the difference between the two is.
So, should I?

AMD sisters how do I respond without sounding mad when DLSS-Schizo tells me that we're still not capable of playing the only game worth getting a new pc for, Cyberpunk with RT Overdrive?
It's playable on the current gen midrange Nvidia cards (5060ti and 5070) because of ray reconstruction, but we don't have that nor a card powerful enough to brute force a higher resolution.
How do I cope???

>>106020939
SAS drives are what you're looking for

>>106020885
Old firmware on the drive
https://blog.quindorian.org/2021/05/firmware-update-samsung-ssd-in-linux.html/

>>106020931
RMA through seagate or through the retailer?
My worry is that I've read about these drives previously being used for Chia farming and then sold as new after having the smart data reset. This didn't come in a manufacturer box, just a sealed packet.
Which I guess is shitty protection so yaeh


>Don't buy Seagate
it's too late for me now meng...

is sli/crossfire still a thing?

>>106021052
maybe
i don't understand why the gen5 T705 does so badly in that test as well
my P5 plus slots in right where you would expect it at 25s, between the SN850 and SN850X
well it's not my problem to figure out, the OP recommendation can stay

>>106019177
I'd consider B650 boards only if they're significantly cheaper compared to the B850 equivalents.

>>106020532
>>106018430
Yikes @ samshit

>>106021074
They're all deprecated technologies
The last GPUs to support sli is the rtx3090 and rtx3090ti

>>106021074
Don't think it's possible for RDNA3 and Ada onwards, didn't work well before that anyways.
There's still mgpu, and it works better than most people would think. Still have the same issues you always had with sli like stuttering and 2x5080 usually being slower than 1 5090
https://forum.level1techs.com/t/the-zen-of-mgpu/219175

>>106018767
Memory bandwidth matters most if you're VRAM limited. Otherwise total latency is king.

>>106020688
>>106020774
>>106020980
>>106021326
Kill yourself

GeForce sisters how do I respond without sounding mad when Nico-Poster tells me that we're still not capable of playing the only game worth getting a new pc for, Cyberpunk with RT Overdrive?
It's playable on the current gen midrange Radeon cards (9070 and 9070 XT) because of FSR4 Optiscaler, but we don't have that nor an upscaler stable enough to brute force a higher resolution.
How do I cope???

>>106021074
not alot of games support it anymore so no, even if the cards support it

>tfw you could get a 5090, but there is a pretty good chance it'll melt
Sticking with the 5080

>>106021671
A 5080 is just a worse 5070ti with a higher power bill. Why would you do that?

>>106021489
Uhm ackchually Cyberpunk has native FSR4 now, sweaty!

snagged 5060 ti 16gb for 361 euros
might have been a price error, who knows if it goes through

>>106011672 (OP)
>newest UE5 game comes out
>AMD cards have notoriously bad performance in games like Black Myth so of course there will be problems
>most steam reviews are seething 9070xt owners who can't play the game
kek public humilation ritual of AMD fanboys ever single game release.

>>106021489
>nicoposter
I thought he killed himself?

>>106022217
>40% resolution scaling
oh nononono hahahaha, another victim of the AMD humiliation rituals.

Nvidia xisters wtf!!! This is UE5 with raytracing so why is our beloved 1000 dollar 5070 ti getting bullied by the 550 9070 non XT!!!

>>106022082
ASUS Dual is also a nice model, gl.

>>106021416
even in /v/ if someone dares to say another card rather than njudea is good they quickly come to spam
this site gets worse with every passing day, bots randomly vomiting bait for anyone reading trying to keep the interactions active >>106022417

>>106022468
thanks friend

Bought a 9060 XT a couple weeks ago. Are these memory temps normal?

Cause they are often higher than hotspot and the specs for the memory modules say operating temperature should be between 0-85. Picrel is after 45 minutes cyberjunk gameplay.

Daily reminder that
>Njudea is proven to be purposely gimping radeon performance in games they are involved with
>Just like they did with tessellation in crisis
Now we know why RDNA 4 doesn't perform as well as it should in Indiana Jones and Wukong pathracing but is able to get 60 in other PT games like cyberpunk where the performance isn't being sabotaged because cd project red are white polish devs with integrity who declined the bribe. Why doesn't AMD just sue Nvidia already for illegal anti competitive behavior like they did to Intel in the 90's and 2000's they won those cases and they would have a good chance of winning this one.

>>106022603
>he bought AMD
kek you have been fooled by the AMD tranny. I pity you.

>>106022603
>specs for the memory modules say operating temperature should be between 0-85.
Where did you read that? Because I've heard the safe limit for gddr6 is 95 degrees. My 9070 XT at stock would go to 95 sometimes higher because my case doesn't have very good airflow so I undervolted it and now it sits around 90. I wouldn't worry about it. 84 is definetly safe. It only really starts getting dangerous and you get throttling once the memory goes into the 100s. Highly suggest undervolting with an offset and a negative power limit. You can get the same performance with a decent bit less power on rdna 4.

>>106022603
temps look pretty high for 180w power draw
what model gpu do you have or is you case shit for airflow?

>play wuchang with DLSS 100% res scaling
>55 to 65 fps
>watch AMD faggots be unable to play this new game just like Clair Obscur
AMD is so fucking shit and is for brokefags.

>>106022817
Unreal Engine is a nutshell

>Just because AMD cards can't run UE4 or UE5 games = it's bad!!!!!!!!!
kek

when will Intel finally release a x3d cpu?
they're taking their sweet time.

>>106022736
Pretty sure they've used SK hynix H56G42AS8DX014 for it and the specs I've found on this website: https://www.absunshine.com/en/parts/H56G42AS8DX014-SK-HYNIX-5945919

I'll try undervolting, thx.

>>106022742
I have the XFX Swift OC dual fan. Case is the Lancool 205m, so not great but not terrible for airflow I guess.

I also have a 6750XT and it runs way hotter, up to 70-80 on core and (90-95 on hotspot). Memory on that one is always pretty similar to core temperature though.

my psu cables have 2 ends ,but the gpu needs 3. Would it be ok to use another gpu cable from other part of psu?

>>106011672 (OP)
Got this ryzen 5 5600X for free last time after purchasing a 3070 for 250 off Facebook marketplace place, they guy that kindly gave it to me, said it was damaged…. I’m a novice at this but all I see are bent pins which I can fix


You guys see anything

is a 9800x3d also a good productivity cpu?
I rarely game these days so I guess it would make sense to rather get a cpu that is better on the productivity site?

>>106023098
Another angle

>>106012318
>>OC will simply delete itself if the driver THINKS your PC crashed
Found the Winblows user

>>106023124
if you have to ask then 8 cores will be totally fine

>>106023130
Use a razor blade or something to bend them straight. As long as the pins aren't missing it should be okay.

Please make smaller gpus again

>>106022638
>on Jun 6
>No one else was able to reproduce this schizo's claims.
Sad rambling.

>>106023124
why the X3D if you don't gayme? 9700x will be cheaper and for productivity just as fast. You probably dont need it, but the 9900x is cheaper than the 9800X3D and will destroy it in productivity.

>>106023417
>why the X3D if you don't gayme?
it's not like I don't game at all anymore it's just really rare so I still want some x3d power.
seems like the best compromise would be a 9900x3d since it's only a little worse than the 9800x3d in gaming but way better at productivity.

>>106021074
sli/crossfire is officially dead but in its ashes are born the phoenix called hybrid graphics which is in use today by laptops and amd desktops.

Which card should I get? XFX Swift OC 9070 for 732$, Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 for 760$ or XFX Mercury 9070 XT for 845$?
I'm aiming for high fps 1440p gaming. I'm kinda leaning towards the 9070 non xt, because of the much lower power draw. I also thought about undervolting the 9070 xt to lower the power draw, But would it be worth it then over the non xt version?

>>106023512
>9900x3d
Worst of both worlds

>>106023533
9070 is roughly 10% slower than 9070xt. if you oc it then you can match the 9070xt alebeit at higher power draw. 9070xt will be able to do that 10% and more easily with power power draw if you use a undervolt as well. its up to you whether the price delta is worth the 10%.

also the sapphire nitro is one of the better models. the noise levels should be better (not including coil whine)

>>106023533
How much is a 5070ti?
>power draw
9070 is still housefirey

>>106023645
its a 220w card at stock clocks. that can be powered by a single 8-pin. (150w+75w)

>>106023645
Cheapest 5070ti is like 960$

shits here bros

do people not use sata ssds anymore?

>>106023926
they do but m2 is more popular. faster, less power use in laptops, etc.

>>106023906
did you just dox yourself with the address label on the monitor?

>>106023645
>Nshartia draws 600 watts through an unsafe connector which is an actual housefire hazard for the 4 gorrillion dollar 5090
>Crickets from njudea shills
>AMD draws 300 watts through safe 8 pins so they can get the clocks they need to have competitive performance
>NOOOO HOW COULD THEY WHAT A HOUSEFIRE HOW INNEFFECIENT

>>106023906
>he fell for the curved meme
anyways looks nice have fun building.

I wanted to build a new pc at the start of the year and now we have almost august. fucking hell.
I'm still sitting here doing nothing coming up with new excuses on not building the new pc.

>>106023958
No.

>>106023906
a fucking leaf

>>106023906
The address on the monitor is readable
>>106023861
I guess the the 9070 then. Can you get a 5070 (non-ti) for msrp? If it's $600ish or at msrp I would get it instead.

>>106024015
Esports pros don't know anything about pcs so of course they are still on shintel and don't know about the nvidia driver overhead . Try again.

>>106024056
>Shilling 5070 non ti over 9070
Kys

>>106023940
but m.2 is still more expensive, right? so when people want to add like 8tb of storage to their pc do they do hdds, sata ssds or m.2 ssds these days?

>>106024062
>Try again.
Two best CS players ever are training on GeForce cards, a 3080 is enough for a major-winning AWPer.
Go ahead and find another web source that can reproduce those numbers.

>>106024089
if you need more space then the slower storage will be cheaper

>>106024153
Please also take not of the memory usage (both from the system and vram) and power draw. There is no way to recover from this brutal mogging.

>>106023512
9900x3d is pointless
9800x3d is great for 90% of the people
9950x3d is worth it if you are doing cpu intensive shit like video editing, coding, etc

>>106016588
You didn’t read his post. Tard >>106019540
This nvidia is shitting itself the problem is amd drivers still have that annoying stutter and shit drivers as well, you’re not going to fix anything by going amd. That’s just the reality of jeetware these days. Maybe China will save us.

>>106024161
i mean obviously but i'm not asking for myself, i'm just curious, what is most common these days? is full m.2 common? do most people do 1tb m.2 for os+sata ssds?

>>106023958
AMD is worse performance per watt than NVIDIA and you can keep coping with your cherry picks to yourself all day in this thread while I play all new games like Wuchang and Stellar Blade day 1 on the way it's meant to be played. Suck my cock
>t. my name is Jensen Huang and I approve of this message.

>>106024221
it depends on their needs.
i have zero hdd because i hate hdd noise. ssd is silent.

>>106020521
Not if you enjoy reading text with your computer all day

>>106024221
if you use all your nvme slots then it may disable some secondary sata slots. you have to refer to your mobo for more info. people just stick with a ssd for boot and a bigger drive for mass storage

>>106024153
>>106024180
>>106024222
>Cries about cherry picking while doing it himself
Kys

>>106024227
ok. so do you do full m.2 or m.2+sata?

>>106024221
I run 3 x 4 GB M.2s but I also had no budget limit.

>>106024259
2 m2
2 sata

>>106024255
4 months later and you're still posting the same cope screenshots, lmfao@yourpatheticlife you will never know another's touch before you die of a heart attack and obesity from posting here all day.

>>106024275
I mean TB. GB would be a bit lame

>>106024222
>I play all new games day 1
Webm related is what happened when GeForce owners tried to play doom the dark ages on day one
RDNA 4 was smooth sailing meanwhile :)

>>106023906
Looks solid

>>106024255
Yikes. Patch 1.2 did fuck all to improve the performance of that game btw.

>>106024334
Why can't Blackwell into vulkan??

>>106024334
Smooth sailing without FSR4 support on Vulkan, the feature RDNA4 card owners paid for :)

>>106023926
why would you
its much slower and new models stopped coming out like 5 years ago

>>106024089
no
m2 is just more convenient, im pretty sure cheap m2 sata ssds are cheaper or comparable to traditional sata ssds these days

>>106024292
>'I'm too retarded to understand that different GPU architectures make Radeon GPUs more dependent on resizable bar/SAM.'
Always broadcasting his idiocy.

I just found out rtx 50 doesn't support anisotropic filtering override, you literally can't force 16x AF anymore so a lot of old games are a blurry mess forever, how fucking cucked one gpu generation can be?

>>106024375
Why would you need to use upscaling when you already have 90 fps? >>106024364
Meanwhile 5070 can't even get 70 :)

>>106024254
yea ok but what kind of ssd and what kind of drive lol
>>106024275
>>106024290
thx, this is probably the norm for most regular people with 'gaming' pcs (m.2+sata i mean, probably not 3*m.2), right?

>>106024427
Today is July 25, 2025. GeForce owners are playing that game just fine :)
With fully enabled RT/PT.

>>106020521
with 360hz versions going on sale sporadically close to 600€ that seems less exciting right now, but its good as a trend of new oled monitors getting cheaper

>>106024426
rtx 5000 also has broken dxvk 32bit support. so old games just dont work in general on it lol.

with dxvk you can force af on amd for instance if the driver panel doesn't work.

>>106024433
My previous rig had m.2 + sata. Not sure how many games at this point can use directstorage where you'd benefit from the read speed. It's really a matter of budget, space in your case and motherboard slots.

>>106022603
The Samsung memory on my 9070 OC'd to 2750 only hits 82c on memtest_vulkan. 70 tops during actual games.
Set a better fan curve. 9000 series has really crap ones on the whole for some reason.

>>106024661
Yeah the Samsung memory runs much cooler. They changed it from SK hynix to samsung for this reason on the 9070 (xt). Early produced models will have SK hynix and later produced models will have Samsung.
Not sure if they changed it or planning to change it on the 9060 XT as well.

>>106023512
9950X3D is worth it if you do just anything beyond casual gaming. Installing games from torrents, compiling shaders on game startup, modding, running background jobs on the other 8 cores while gaming etc. it saves you a lot more time than you need to earn the price difference.

>>106024417
yea i had no idea that's why i'm asking, i haven't upgraded my pc in years and i'm not looking to upgrade any time soon either, i'm just trying to stay up to date
you can't really do 16tb+ with m.2 ssds tho so if you really want to expand your internal storage it's really a matter of budget since hdds are still about 1/3 to 1/4 of the price of sata ssds it seems. but neither sata ssds or hdds are completely obsolete, right? that's what i mainly wanted to know
>>106024505
yea same, over the last 15 years i went from hdd to sata ssd+hdd to m.2 ssd+sata ssd. my sata drive died a few years back tho but i've yet to replace it, i've been using only one 1tb m.2 drive for the past few years and i've completely embraced data minimalism

>>106024661
>>106024752
Worth noting that the trade off with Samsung memory is thst has worse timings and cards with it are a little slower and it doesn't OC well. My hynix 9070 XT does 2700mhz with fast timings stable.

>>106024834
How hot does the memory get with that overclock? Does it run hotter than stock?

Do i cancel b850 aorus elite order and get b850 edge ti? Its 30€ more. Cant find any reviews between the two.

>>106025083
If you think the extra features are worth it. Edge Ti is slightly better.
But it won't result in better gaming performance.

>>106024834
tfw no fast timings on linux

>>106025155
I cant get the revised aorus version with better audio codec, so i though maybe ill go with the edge ti.
What are the extra features that are better?

>>106025308
5Gb LAN, extra M.2 slot, more USB type C ports, 8v6 layer PCB, etc.

>>106023956
>>106024056
No... I don't think it says
52 Tupper St North, Portage La Prarie, Manitoba, Canada

And the name of that business isn't the same as the last name on the label

>>106017779
>There is a difference 3200 vs 3600 no joke.
...on a fucking ryzen 1200? no, you are delusional, there's no way you aren't bottlenecked by the cpu itself.
>Yes and i report issues to Intel. They fixed few issues i reported no joke.
you are ragebaiting at this point, the massive driver overhead isn't getting fixed anytime soon, pairing an arc card with a weak cpu is just plain stupid, you could've gotten a much cheaper radeon/novideo and would've had more performance

>>106019183
if used prices are also dogshit, and you don't play particularly heavy triple-a slop, and you cannot get an arc b580 for a decent price of the driver overhead is too much for your cpu, consider the 8 gb rx 7600 desu, it's usually 100$ cheaper than the 16 gb xt one
shitty card but better than paying triple for something that's barely better

What's /pcbg/'s monitor brand tier list? I don't know jack shit about the modern monitor brands today.

>>106026190
Asus is the only one that specifically mentions burn-in in the warranty of their OLED monitors

>>106026190
all brands use samsungs qd oled panels and they're pretty similar in performance

> Phanteks XT Pro Ultra (fits 360 aio)
> core ultra 7 265k
Should I get Ekwb EKWB EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Dark or DeepCool LT720?
LT720 has a fucking ugly pump cover, so much that I would rather wait and buy more expensive 360mm NKWB

>>106026236
All of the majors specify 3 3-year burn-in warranty coverage.
ASUS makes the best OLED monitors though.

Am I justified in my fear of 12VHPWR connectors? Will I be trolled by buying a 9070XT instead of 5070Ti?

>>106026784
>Will I be trolled by buying a 9070XT instead of 5070Ti?
Yes. Why would you buy the budget version of a 5070ti? Are you poor? Not like the 5070ti would even draw enough to melt it if something was wrong

>>106026784
ASRock Taichi and Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT use the 12V-2x6 power connectors.
It's rare to cause connector melts on a sub-400W video card, but there's a higher chance of it happening if you don't follow the bend clearance instructions for both ends of the cable (35mm clearance before bending).

>>106026784
9070XT has spikes over 600W, so...

>>106011672 (OP)
RT performance: Nvidia
ML performance: Nvidia
Upscale (by a bit): Nvidia
Software compatibility/Tools: Nvidia
Raster performance: AMD
Price: AMD
Linux compatibility (for now): AMD

Nvidia wins for most use-cases.

AMD doesn't have bad silicon, but their software is poor.
Nvidia is partly to blame - they dominate the industry with proprietary tech and AMD must follow. At the same time AMD isn't innovating.
This has led to a steady decrease in AMD GPU adoption.
People may hate on AMD, but we need them to compete or prices get out of hand, like they have for the past couple of years.

https://www.techpowerup.com/339270/team-group-unveils-ddr5-256gb-4x64-gb-ultra-capacity-memory-kits#comments
>T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5-6000 CL32 256 GB (4×64 GB)
A quarter terrabyte of RAM on a consumer platform (yes I know that the official supported spec on mobos hjas been about that for ages)...
Still color me impressed that they've managed to pack a 4x DIMM kit that dense and at that speed and nevertheless manage to suffer almost no latency penalty in the process over 2x16GB DDR5-6000CL30 kits. HELLO RAMDISK.

>>106026784
>>106026884
>Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT
I quite like using the 12v-2x6 cable with this card. Easy routing location, just one cable.
My psu also has a mating socket for it, otherwise I would have had to use the triple adapter thing Sapphire supplies. I'm sure it works fine, but that would be 3x the amount of cables stuffed in the thin side of my case.

>>106021671
Buying a 16gb 5080 for ~$1500 when the 24gb version is coming out in 5 months is a hilarious move. These are going to depreciate like the 10gb 3080s did

which is better for the gpu in gpu-z? the texture fillrate (core) is faster or the memory bandwith (vram) is faster? dont say both, just pick one.

Kind of worried about buying a triple fan GPU, are the materials given with a MSI Gaming X or ASUS STRIX enough? I heard GPU sag can be quite annoying.

>>106025635
used prices aren't terrible but they're pretty unreliable +not alot of options to choose from since pc gaming isn't that popular where i live

the intel arc b580 would be a good choice if it was available in my country i just checked now and wherever i can buy it it is $500, so not an option

i guess i could get the 7600 too, i was initially eyeing the 6750 xt which was $350 but its not in stock anywhere at the moment and i dont see it being in stock soon

You can't convince me these are organic posts. I refuse to believe anyone is spending their free time shilling nvidia gpus for free on a niche tech forum, that is just too pathetic. Why does Nvidia feel the need to pay offices in India I'm guessing to shill their gpus? I thought they don't care about gaming anymore?

>>106027297
i have 3080ti gaming x trio
it's pretty chonky
i use the included anti sag bracket, but im not sure it actually does anything meaningful
either way it has been fine for the past 3 years

>>106027426
>>106027426
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>>106026924
So 750W PSU should be fine with 5070Ti and 9070 XT? PC Part Picker says it's fine, but I have no Idea if it accounts for spikes is 3x8Pin safer for firehazard?

>>106027104
this is 6000 32-44-44
typical 6000 kits are 30-36-36, so quite a bit worse
but if you need the capacity it's still worth it

>>106027412
If your case has a window, could you take a picture for me?

Any real difference between the B850 Aorus Elite and the B850 Tomahawk? Both are the same price.

>>106011672 (OP)
Are more expensive chips worth it over the 9600x if you are only gaming and doing basic desktop stuff? That single thread and core speed at that price seems hard to beat

>>106012318
lact is all you need

>>106027308
>i was initially eyeing the 6750 xt which was $350 but its not in stock anywhere at the moment and i dont see it being in stock soon
yeah rx 6700/6750xt has been discontinued for quite a while and it's been impossible to find one new for a long time, only the 6600s are still in stock sometimes but usually for little less than a 7600 so it doesn't make sense (at least where i live)

>>106023341
this