Thread 106028410

Luddites BTFO

still not using it

>>106028410 (OP)
I think they laid me off for not using the shitty AI tools they were forcing on everyone.

I use AI at home. I even write custom pytorch models. The tools at work are just so fucking broken and all my problems are administrative so I never bothered with it.

>>106028410 (OP)
>goes to China to dump trash inventories and desperately shill them because muh $4T market cap

>>106028410 (OP)
I am authorized to use copilot at work because Microsoft indemnifies us against copyright violations and certifies our private code will not be used in training
but every time I try to use it it gives me 5 different wrong answers for the same code
hell, today it even made up fake instructions for unity license management.

I will never understand /g/‘s obsessive denial that AI is just part of technology now. Would you faggots still be looking things up in books if you were around when search engines launched? Use it or you most certainly will be outclassed by someone who does.

>>106028594
Good morning sir.

>>106028558
My work also insists we use copilot for work related tasks.
>analyze this document and identify any instance of ‘x’
>there were 4 instances of ‘x’
>proceed to scan myself to discover 5 instances of ‘x’
>oh, you’re right, there are 5 instances of ‘x’
My job is safe for now.

>>106028410 (OP)
isnt the whole point of ai that any retard can use it? "somebody who uses ai" is ultimately meaningless.

If you're writing good code within a required deadline, why does it matter whether you use AI or not? Why would you even need to "force" someone to use it? If they meet your requirements, good, if they don't, fire them and hire someone that does.

>>106028410 (OP)
>breaking news, pickaxe salesman says if you're not looking for gold you'll be poor forever

>>106028410 (OP)
If you don't use AI today, you won't be hired.
If do use AI to do your job, then AI will replace you entirely under 12 months.

It's a lose/lose situation. Luddites tried to warn you about it, but you refused to listen.

>>106028558
>>106028817
>but every time I try to use it it gives me 5 different wrong answers for the same code
What you do is what I do: Keep doing your job normally but say you made it with AI and that all of it is Copilot's and the companies copyright. It's not your code anyway so it's permanent job security since nobody can replicate your code using the AI. The AI looks at it, sees the copyright Copilot Microsoft all in your code along with "DO NOT REPLICATE", tries to replicate it and then fucks it up in obscure ways Indians can't vibe-code their way out of.

As for getting hired if you're fired already, yeah you're fucked

>>106028594
>I will never understand /g/‘s obsessive denial that AI is just part of technology now.
WTF? /g/ was beating large tech companies innovating with LLMs for a little while to the degree Google even wrote an internal memo about it.

>>106028848
that's a good idea anon, although I traditionally spend more time designing software for future maintainability and writing user stories than writing code, so I think I'm safe for now.
the one place we have AI genned code is in a completely unmaintainable mess I had an intern work on

>>106028817
Funniest thing is, the original Luddites were simply trying to protect their own livelihoods. But it's always presented as if they were opposing technological progress for the sake of it. It's easier to hate an enemy when you portray it as unreasonable.

>>106028410 (OP)
zero link.... man if only AI made this post.

>>106028427
Nobody is "using it." They are teaching a machine how to replace them, in the long term.

>>106028927
>on /g/
>doesn't know how to use a search engine
https://www.benzinga.com/markets/tech/25/07/46596244/jensen-huang-says-ai-will-replace-mundane-work-as-nvidia-ceo-warns-those-who-raw-dog-it-without-ai-will-be-left-behind

>>106028935
That makes no sense at all. Have you actually done corporate software development before?

replace ai with nvidia gpu. he's telling people their job will be replaced by a nvidia gpu.

I am already unemployable.

>>106028410 (OP)
Uhhhh what's raw doggy

>>106028848
If it were permanent job security they wouldn't hire rajesh-270725 to break the infrastructure in 3 weeks for pennies
management is inherently retarded

based

>>106028410 (OP)
You can certainly tell something has went wrong with the shilling when a thread like this hasn't even cracked 30 replies in hours

>>106028594
Classic contrarians and being wrong about almost everything. It's pretty standard.

>>106028648
No. Using the tool(s) well(or poorly) a multiplicative effect.
People who can craft good input and context can multiply their productivity.
People who are bad will make themselves worse because they will make too many assumptions about correctness, and not notice mistakes.
Probably the biggest misconception about AI is that it's something that levels the field.
When the reality is that it is the exact opposite.
The gap between people will just widen, not close.

>>106029949
*is a

>>106028417
R A R E P E P E
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>inb4 you pull a sonic kid drawing prompt meme

>>106029971
i drawed it myself

If you use AI, you're going to lose your company to one that doesn't use AI.

>>106030029
This one looks too yellow for some reason. It does look like you colorpicked it from an actual pepe, but it still looks too yellow, idk. Like he's sickly or something. But a rarepepe is a rarepepe, I'm not complaining.

>>106030041
It's definitely not a good one.

>>106028410 (OP)
Horses should learn to drive cars.

>>106028594
AI is for research but agents are still a meme.

>>106028915
Yanderedev?

>>106028410 (OP)
Meanwhile, every FAGMAN company has a "no committing LLM code" policy, except Microsoft with Copilot because they've decided to tank the legal risks.

>>106028817
The real tragedy here is that the wagies are unwilling to give up their servitude

Logical question for the AI crowd, if these tools are so powerful they can literally be picked up by any retard in a day or so why would I bother investing time in it versus learning even more CS/computer fundamentals and learning something hardcore that AI can’t do. It can’t be both almighty powerful and difficult to use. Your skill, assuming agent/vibe coding actually works, is literally reviewing stack overflow tier slop, which I can already do.

>>106030624
UBI off of AI dividends requires way more trust of corporations than negotiating pay in exchange for skilled production.

>>106030624
you do realize (((the ones in charge))) will just make those wagies take another vaccine

>>106030656
Its funny anyone thinks the feudal lords will do this unless they are sufficiently scared of the guillotine.

>>106030701
They and their parents have lived their lives entirely sheltered from the realities of nation-scale depravities in human behavior.

The thought, "oh cool, now I'll just be given my equivalent purchasing power for free just for existing by benevolent operations and governments" leaves their head without even a hint of schadenfreude.

>>106030624
>nobody has to work anymore
Blue collar jobs will keep existing because machines are still too expensive to automate it compared to minimum wage wagie
It's just the most expensive jobs will cease to exist, actually grim if you look at it like that. Heading straight to last century in terms of job prospects

>>106028410 (OP)
>you have to use AI!!!
says the man selling the AI hardware. not suspicious.

>>106028594
The maymay of AI replacing everyone's jobs still hasn't materialized. Generative AI simply can't replace most white collar tasks.

>>106030725
>The thought, "oh cool, now I'll just be given my equivalent purchasing power for free just for existing by benevolent operations and governments" leaves their head without even a hint of schadenfreude.
AI trannies are really deluded. "Equivalent purchasing power" being stated without a hint of irony is incredible.

>>106028410 (OP)
AI is basically like a shitcoin bag you're holding and shilling it to everyone who will listen in the vain and desperate hope you'll manage to sell it before the grift is fully exposed. AI is fundamentally worthless and detrimental to any person regardless of who they are. I'm not using it and will never use it. It's purely for third rate people who have nothing to say or do or even have a drive to learn a skill or artistically express themselves.

The AI bubble isn't just a bubble, there needs to be a name for bullshit of this magnitude. It makes tulip mania and the dotcom bubble look like nothing. It's the greatest grift in the history of our species, and when it pops it'll liquidate obscene amounts of money and tech companies. It will be a world shattering event, but only in the sense that even the dumbest among us will realize the truth - technology has peaked and is basically solved. There is no more room for growth because everything worth doing has already been done. "Progress" is finally over and our species has achieved the purpose of technology.

After AI goes tits up we will finally return to the important things like philosophy and art.

>>106031574
Ai has its uses. it can generate scripts quickly if you dont want to look up a libraries documentation.
quickly putting meme images for the lulz
and finally ti can usually find something you want better than a google search (because google gimped their fucking search for $$$)

i think the point is you should be able to leverage ai to make yourself more productive, but how that manifests itself is not written in stone, and very different and has a very wide range of impact on different uses

and obviously ai is not taking any jobs yet. i think those companies who laid off people for ai are going to be disappointed

>>106032024
and also, leveraging ai for productivity is not unique to the it sector. i think it applies to most sectors. just being a student today is very different in your approach from 10 years ago

>>106028410 (OP)
raw dog deez nutz