Thread 106102891

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X, 14400F
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X, 14600K
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X, 14700K
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high-end: consider 2x48GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, RTX 5060 Ti
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT, Used 4070 Ti/Super
Workstation: used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>106007395

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
prev thread: >>106094190

>>106102891 (OP)
>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>>106102726
i-it's so big >.<
what sticker should i use

>>106103038
>what sticker should i use

>>106102605
if anybody could answer this question from the old thread. thanks in advance

>>106103086
probably will be fine

>put parts in pc partpicker including the monitor
>the wattage needed on top right says around 390
So i assume a 500w psu will be enough or is there some sort of rule of thumb on how much bigger-leeway the psu should have?

>>106103086
Is your corsair 650W ATX3.x? Because AFAIK using 4070+ and 5070+ cards without dedicated 12+4 pin (16 pin) connector from PSU is kinda dangerous.

>>106103119
usually it's the combined max wattage x1,5

>>106103119
Check the prices, 500-650W is probably the same price.

>>106103150
>>106103157
aight got it thx anons

>AMD
>CPU: 500 EUR
>MOBO: 200 EUR with good sound
>COOLER: 35 EUR
>TOTAL: 735 EUR

>INTEL
>CPU: 250 EUR
>MOBO: 250 EUR with shit sound
>COOLER: 80 EUR AIO
>SOUND CARD: 60 EUR
>TOTAL: 640 EUR

I hate it. Intel is supposed to be a budget option but it's not even 15% cheaper. And Intel mobo with good sound is 350 Euro, with shittier VRM than 250 one.

AAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>106103147
I dont think it is. yea I have read about the connector issue but I thought I could just buy new cables

>>106103038
White Pal (yes cut the sticker in half)

>>106103241
Well read up on ATX 3.0 16-pin GPU power connectors. 12 are power 4 are signal that prevent the melting. It's kind of necessary for both NVIDIA and AMD GPU that draw more than 200W

>>106103266
I get this warning message on pcpartpicker "The PCIe 16-pin 12VHPWR power connector adapter is being supplied by multiple PCIe 6+2-pin power connectors. Please ensure that the PCIe 6+2-pin power connectors are not daisy-chained and do not share the same power cable."

so as I understand it I can use two 6+2 connectors as long as they arent daisy chained

>>106103294
You can and they would deliver enough power. This does not address the connector melting issue though as powerful NVIDIA/AMD cards melt the power connectors because they sometimes draw far more than their TDP in spikes. And without ATX 3.x signal cables, they could melt.

ATX 3.x PSU standard is kind of electric breaker in regards to GPU. You don't really want to cheap out on PSU if you've already spent close to thousand $ on 5070ti. That's a risk.

I have bought 4070 Ti Super and technically my 10 years old OCZ 700W can run it. But I'm not trying that until I get the rest of platform together, including ATX 3.1 PSU.

i know this isn't for support but im having an issue with my rx 9060, i'm using 2 monitors, when booting up the secondary monitor if half blank(black screen)
i have yet to try a different hdmi cable but im curious if anyone had a similar problem

>>106103449
MPO sends its regards

>>106103449
have you tried linux

What can a 5070 ti with a 9800x3d not play?

>>106103319
makes sense I guess. fuck kinda annoyed that I have to put in a new psu and connect all the cables again

do i need a new atx3.0 psu? i already have an old evga 750g2 and was planning to reuse it in a new build with 5060ti

>>106103578
skyrim or minecraft with 1000 mods which require 32gb vram

>>106102945
Some content creators don't know that certain power-related sensor readings in Afterburner, RTSS, and HWInfo require a disproportionate amount of CPU resources that negatively affect benchmark results (especially when paired with an NVIDIA card).
It tends to hurt AMD CPUs more, I'm guessing it's because the CCD has to work with the IOD to compute that power data.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6642umBeYM
https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/what-is-the-hwinfo-power-percent-sensor-equivalent-to-the-msi-afterburner-power-percent.10230/

Does anyone here play on a big OLED TV? I'm trying to figure out what kind of graphics card I would need to pair with a 9800X3D. Playing in 4k would cost a fortune I assume so do you just play in 1080p unless you want to spend more than a grand on the card alone? 1440p won't be viable on a huge 4k OLED, right?

>>106103774
I play in lower res with black bars

These developers need to optimize their damn games. No reason for a game to take up more than 300 gigs

>>106103774
9070 XT & 5070 Ti can run 4K with settings adjustments (mix of high & medium) and FSR4 / DLSS enabled.
9070 & 5070 can do it with even lower settings & aggressive upscaling.
5070 might run into VRAM bottlenecks if you're trying to run higher quality settings & RT enabled, but the card isn't strong enough to render these settings at above 30 FPS without VRAM limitations.

>1440p won't be viable on a huge 4k OLED, right?
Just upscale to 4K, that's the internal resolution for DLSS Quality (+ some added performance penalty).

>>106103225
just get a chinkshit motherboard and invest in a good sound card

>>106103578
dxvk 32bit games
wuthering waves (ue4)

>>106103799
It's intentional in order to prevent you from uninstalling the game as the redownload may take time while blocking storage space for potential competitor games.

>>106103717
Lawl nvidia drivers

>>106103879
>dxvk 32bit games
>Fixed Gaming Bugs
>32-bit games crash when using DXVK translation layer during startup [5252103]
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/251255/

>Wuthering Waves
Dev's fault for their shitty DX implementation, fallback to DX11. Issues reported on AMD card owners as well.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Wuthering_Waves#Issues_unresolved

>>106103937
fake post

>>106103935
You don't need to keep track of GPU power readings even when you're OCing or undervolting the card.
Power limits are hard-set in the vBIOS if you did not modify it.
If you're OCing, you'll know the card will be running at/near the maximum power limit, given there's no other performance limiters (fps cap, voltage & thermal limit).
GPU thermal readings will tell you whether the undervolt is working or if you have more thermal headroom for OC.

What's important to keep track of the new NVIDIA card is the 12VHPWR Voltage.

>>106103717
it was the gpu power draw stat that took the most amount of cpu time polling that caused the amdip too
allegedly

>>106103774
>4k
locked in to the jensen 90-series payment plan if you intend to run modern games
but everyone casualfag should be running a 4k monitor at current year even if they have worse gpus for other use cases

>Does anyone here play on a big OLED TV?
I will buy it in a week to try it out and see if it's better than 32" oleds

Does thermal paste even matter. My new fan came with a TF4, it doesn't have that many reviews but I really don't wanna get another tube

>>106103774
i play on a 4k 144hz miniled tv, 55 inches from about 4m away. i can easily do 4k60+ with an rtx 3080 whether that's native or using dlss. either way, i haven't had any issues achieving a smooth gameplay experience in all games i've tried. currently playing ff7 rebirth at 4k dlss with a 75 fps cap for that little extra smoothness.

>>106103846
>chinkshit motherboard
won't be stable under 14600k sustained turbo boost, to say nothing about overclock
If I'm paying for K intel processor, I'm going to hook it up to BMW radiator and overclock to hell
my 800W convector heater is going to be lonely this winter!

>>106103717
So reading GPU data taxes CPU enough to dip in benchmarks? Well how am I supposed to get proper picture of CPU performance in games before buying it?

>>106104199
It won't matter much during the first few months or even a year or two.
But pastes like the NT-H2, Duronaut, MX-4/6, and PTM7950 will better retain their performance in the long run.
If you can't be bothered, the TF4 should be fine. We're talking maybe 2~4°C difference in the long run.
Do not buy X/OC thermal pastes if you care about long-term performance.

Planning on upgrading my intel i5 11400f to ryzen 7 7700x tomorrow. Once I'm done putting my new cpu and mobo together, should I reinstall windows? Or does a windows update/in place upgrade works just fine

>>106104267
there are guides on reddit, essentially if you boot into safemode on your old system and remove all interl drivers from all devices including hidden ones, and then plug the OS drive into AMD machine, you should be fine

>>106104267
absolutely
clean install is always nice together with performance uplift from the actual hardware

>>106104199
thermal paste is a solved game. you buy arctic mx-6. if you need something stronger you get ptm7950.

>>106104267
i upgraded from an old intel cpu from 2012 to ryzen last year and the only thing i had to do was to change my drive from legacy to uefi or something like that. no data was lost, i just used a microsoft tool to do it (i think, not 100% sure). and after that i just plugged my windows ssd into my new mobo and it worked fine. there were a few applications which needed reinstalling so they can see the new system specs but aside from that it was (and is) smooth sailing. i also downloaded driver store explorer to remove the old chipset and mobo drivers from my system.

>>106104277
>>106104306
Alright, reinstall windows it is then. Thanks!

>>106104239
>So reading GPU data taxes CPU enough to dip in benchmarks?
Just the ones associated with GPU power, the rest, like GPU voltages & thermals are fine.

>Well how am I supposed to get proper picture of CPU performance in games before buying it?
Use data from benchmarkers that disabled those GPU power sensors during their CPU reviews/comparisons.

>>106104239
its better to use official software when possible.
for example ryzen master is way more accurate than hwinfo64. it can tell you when cores are sleeping. hwinfo64 cant.

>>106104374
>Use data from benchmarkers that disabled those GPU power sensors during their CPU reviews/comparisons.
Can you shill some? I'm choosing between 14600K and 7800X3D

>>106102891 (OP)
What distro is that?

>>106104384
The reviewers who know what they're doing will usually post consistently reliable CPU minimums, the 9800X3D and the 7800X3D will usually be on top.
Don't use Starfield or Bethesda game engines as a test base. Their engine is too crappy to be used as a reliable hardware benchmark

is the logical increments website good? im trying to build a new pc

>>106104616
It's a start, but not good. Better than nothing.

>>106104616
pcpartpicker.com

>>106103823
>>106104089
>>106104202
Thanks, I was hoping to get away with a 5060TI. It's a 65'' 144Hz OLED which is obviously much bigger than a monitor but then again you sit far away so idk

the 5080 is enough for 4k 144hz+, right? i dont want to get memed on too hard hmm

>>106104699
what game

>>106103038
That's not going to fit in your tiny case.

>>106104709
anything that would come out in the next couple years I guess, and graphically demanding

>>106104716
bet u feel awfully silly right now

>>106104729
kek

>>106104727
I mean I cannot even get 4k 144Hz with a 5090 in Monster Hunter Wilds and the Oblivion remaster also caps out at 60 fps the last time I saw benchmarks. All the latest AAA trash runs like total shit and dev incompetence is a bottomless pit.

>>106104344
MX-6 performs better than PTM7950 though

>>106104498
>The reviewers who
Thanks, the video was fire.

Is this a good build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QMRYGJ
I haven't built a PC in a very, very long time so I'm okey with spending more dosh as long as the parts will work fine together. Very unsure about the Motherboard and Case.
I'm mainly going to use this for gaming, watching Youtube, shitposting, and occasionally, video editing and rendering.

>>106104775
wew lad, alright I guess I'll stick to good old 1440p 144hz

>>106104811
x870e cucks you out of storage lanes, consider B850 mobo instead

>>106104811
fugg now i want one of these hdds

>>106104673
tv's are big because they're designed to be sat far away from. monitors are small for the small for the inverse reason. if you're buying a 65" tv to sit a meter away from you're doing it all wrong.

>>106104786
Wrong

>>106104823
But I want the error code number thing.

Bought a computer with what I thought were some half decent parts for $75; planning to upgrade a bit and sell for more. But the only 16x pcie slot on the mobo was actually busted to hell (how tf did this happen?).

Had a $10 ali express cpu fan and a bunch of risers laying around. Also bunch of low speed ddr4 ram sticks I wouldn't be able to sell.

Gonna mount it to a painted plywood sheet and hang it on my wall as a kind of quick and dirty testbench and maybe managing offline backups

>>106104853
look at this horror

>>106104811
>occasionally, video editing and rendering.
Get an AIO for that CPU. Liquid Freezer 3 is nice, but watch some installation videos.
The case is okay, there are a lot of new options.
You don't need a $470 motherboard if you don't know what exactly you'll get out it.

>>106104853
Cool clock Ahmed!

>>106104851
the m2 lanes anons constantly bitch about aren't relevant if you dont plan on using more than one m2 anyway and if you want more you can still use the two chipset connected PCIe 4.0 nvme slots.

the k5 looks comically large compared to the e10k

>>106104912
But what if I want to run an m2 only build without SATA cables

>>106104940
>FiiO
does this thing have issues with static pops after like 5s when the playback stops as well?

>>106104851
There are cheaper X870/E boards with that 7-segment LED display.
You shouldn't be relying on that feature too often unless you're constantly OCing and stability testing the hardware.
I set that display off in the BIOS after I was done tuning my PC.
A conveniently located clear-CMOS button is a more practical tuning feature.

>>106104912
why buy $450 motherboard that has lane sharing if you can buy $200 one that have none?

>>106104947
You buy three 4TB NVMe drives.

>>106104853
is it this shit? KEK

do i buy a 9100 pro now that they are 20% less than on launch

Are there any good places to read about the current state of amd and nvidia drivers on windows?
i was personally spooked with the b580 years ago and stuff like 9060 xt look excellent on paper but dont really want to fall for it again if possible

>>106105002
similar. they're from a miner

>>106104853
That's a fucking steal.

im on a gtx1080, when is it going to be worthwhile to upgrade? Any meaningful upgrade is still $700-1000+ and they aint releasing shit it feels like. I game and do productivity/gamedev and would ideally be able to use local models for generic LLM but also img/video generation.

>>106105016
meant rx580 i am even more retarded than i thought

>>106104863
common when PC is transported without taking out heavy GPU

>>106105036
look for used 4060 ti super if you can find it

>>106105036
>>106105060
>used 4060 ti super
*4060 ti 16gb

>>106104977
no, and my old one didn't either. the old one did have issues being recognized by windows when restarting though which is why i decided to replace it

>>106105012
$35 difference between the 2TB 9100 and the 990 Pro on Newegg, the Gen 5 premium isn't that high at that price.
You would've bought it already if you needed it. Overkill for gaming PCs (game engine bottlenecked).

>>106105072
assuming I was fine waiting a bit more, would it be worth it?

>>106105079
kinda hilarious cause FiiOs flagshio the K19 that costs here 1400€ has exactly this issue. I'd consider a K15 but I cant tell if it will have the same issues.

>>106105094
For LLM I assume you're locked into NVIDIA. I'm not sure their prices would drop. They seem to be limiting supply of consumer cards in favor of producing more enterprise shit for datacenters. You can wait until 5000 supers drop at the end of this year, but I doubt this would make anything affordable.

>>106105040
There are some niggling issues on both sides, worse or more publicized for NVIDIA.
NVIDIA's attempt to improve their drivers seems to have gotten the ball rolling on Microsoft's end; MS has been releasing display-related Windows 11 fixes more often.

>>106105094
some people speculate that the 60 series will come with a decent performance boost unlike the 50 series but if they will be more affordable is something no one can tell you now.

what if I buy 14600K, AIO and expensive 16+1+1 Z790 motherboard, but lose silicon lottery?

>>106105219
Someone must pay idiot tax. It may be you.

>>106105094
>would it be worth it?
NVIDIA's not making $300~500 GeForce cards with good price/performance.
They either want people to pay more for the performant cards (with more VRAM), or buy mediocre/underwhelming $300~400 cards more often.

It took around four years for a -60 Ti card ($430 for 16GB) to perform better than a 3070 Ti.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16-gb.c4292

I think the 6060 Ti should easily clear the 3080/4070's performance, but expect this to cost near $500.

>DTS volume leveling will stop working on new motherboard
It's over.

>>106105219
It's not worth the gamble.
You don't need an expensive Z790 board to OC a 14600K.
You get that kind of board when you already have a great 14600K.

>>106103086
The power capacity isn't the issue with decent 650W PSUs; the number of available 2+6-pin PCIe cables is the usual limitation.
Some 650W PSUs may have enough pigtailed VGA power cables to power a 5070 Ti requiring 3x 8-pin PCIe connections (through the 12V-2x6 adapter).

>>106104673
buy into the future and buy a 5090
the best investment you can make
well, eventually you will have to spend more to get more anyway
the brutal fact that a high end gpu will hold value and your displays/monitors value will tank insanely much in value needs not to be said

>>106104699
>is enough for 4k 144hz+, right?
if you replaced your question with 5090 the answer would still be no and you would still be cpu limited in some cases too

>>106104815
buying an inferior display because you cannot hit native res is a dead meme

>>106105016
no, every side will be disingenuous and try lure you to their team

>>106105219
>14600k
you already lost it

>>106105095
it's a usb c/usb 3 problem i think

>>106105430
the FSP VITA GM 850W would be able to support a 5070ti right?

>>106105481
>>106102945
Anons explained to me why a lot of youtube 7800X3D benchmarks are stuttering and lose 0.1% lows to Intel, but It's still bothers me.

That's a 500 euros cpu vs 250 euros CPU over here. Yeah it's stronger on average but what if it keeps dipping on my setup too?

>>106105502
That PSU is good enough for a 5080, FSP is a reliable PSU OEM.

>>106105514
alright then I will go with it. thanks!

Looks like my Elite Series 2 controller for PC is no longer charging. It only works when plugged in. I don't think I'll be getting another Elite controller. Any recommendations for something else?

>>106105510
>Yeah it's stronger on average but what if it keeps dipping on my setup too?
Then don't buy it. It's so simple.
The e-cores are more likely to fuck over gaming performance on some of the older games/engines.
Gaming is software-bottlenecked more than you think it is. That's where most of HWUB's retested 9070 XT performance gains came from: OS & game patches.

I‘m looking for a PC case for mini-ITX

A few years ago I made the mistake of making a "tiny" pc. Now I want to migrate the same pc into a bigger case. With 3.5'' hard drive slots. Any recommendations?

>>106104940
There is a patent on Google that claims this device opens up the enduser to a mind control vulnerability...

>>106103606
bros? i think the answer is no since 5060ti uses a normal 8 pin power connector, is that correct?

>>106105545
>google patents
There's a patent that claims every LCD display can be used to same effect.
>>106103606
>>106105553
For 5060ti, probably not. It draws less than 200W of power.

>>106105553
You don't need an ATX 3.x PSU for the 5060 Ti.
Even higher-end ATX 2.x PSUs are still good enough to power the 4090 & 5090; those units already met the new transient excursion requirements.

Would the big tech YouTube reviewers have been more positive about DLSS4 as a whole, including but not limited to multi-frame-gen, had Nvidia not heavy-handedly tried to control how reviewers define "frames" and all that drama?
I feel like it put a chip on a lot of their shoulders and a lot of them might have been less negative about the state of frame gen if Nvidia had been less controlling.
They also love getting to say a company said something untrue, that really drives clicks, so the "4090 performance in a 5070" may have been a bad play too, but it probably did drive sales so I guess there's a trade-off there.

>>106105627
nope. the only thing that would've made jewtoobers not chimp out was if amd had a competitor that wasn't shit

>>106105535
I don't trust anything with NEXUS in it's name...
>Gaming is software-bottlenecked more than you think it is.
Oh I expect it, it's clear with modern websites bloat and disregard for RAM usage, that it's a common software development trend.

Holy Fuck we live in a time where Intel + Nvidia just DOESN'T WORK its a fucking CURSED combo.

AMD + AMD JUST WORKS

>>106105664
any of those combinations does not "just work" on windows lol

>>106105680
you can't trust intel + nvidia. the cpu cant complete shader compilation. the gpu driver is unstable. the two brains of the computer are fucking flawed.

Has anyone run more recent tests for game performance between W10 and W11? I recall W11 having a notable performance hit in some games close to its launch.

honestly if intel made competitive chips on tsmc I'd buy those over amd
I had so many problems with 5600x at launch with years of mobo bios updates to fix them
but, I dont want my cpu to use 3 times more watts to do same work or have 30% lower gaming perf so

>>106105687
>MPO black screen blocks ur path
now what

>>106105627
>said something untrue, that really drives clicks, so the "4090 performance in a 5070"
You keep taking that quote out of context. Jensen was clearly shilling MFG.
https://youtu.be/k82RwXqZHY8?t=1125

I don't like MFG, but you're grasping at straws with that quote.

>>106105488
It is, buy a powered USB 2.0 hub. Problem solved.

on the subject of dacs/amps, i think people who can't tell the difference between mp3 and a high quality flac file are deaf

Discuss

>>106102891 (OP)
Hey bros.

When installing my contact plate to my motherboard, I heard a clicking sound coming from the board but the screw was still loose so I kept tightening slightly. Kept hearing a weird click on every rotation.
Is this damaging the board/solder around CPU socket?

Could it just be the screws rubbing the metal? My motherboard has a backplate installed. I ran OCCT and AIDA for an hour each, no problems and temps looked good.
9800x3d, msi x870, thermalright contact, arctic liquid 420mm II.

Thanks lads

>>106105718
I get what you mean but I don't fully agree. The difference in "game feel" is very different and worse on 5070 with 4x trying to hit 4090-tier settings, and clarifying that has been a big effort of all the reviewers I watched the last 6 months (Drama Nexus, DLSS Foundry, AMD Unboxed)

Today I learned my MSI Z170A carbon gaming mobo doesn't support 50 series cards.
Can't even boot into bios with it.
Also white 64gb ram sticks with rgb when?

>>106105746
weird noises sounds like some washer isnt in place properly
could be wrong but it would then look off when viewed from the side? Idk

>>106105769
why not? internets say it should work
i'm in a similar position, my 5060ti arrives tomorrow and the rest of the pc in two more weeks so i was going to plug the gpu into my 8 year old pc

>>106105756
Your opinion doesn't matter; Jensen was shilling MFG.
He never said a 5070 could natively match the 4090's performance.

I use MFG on my 5090 in basically every game. 3x is almost indistinguishable from fg off in terms of latency. All the negative shit around FG is retarded

>>106105809
>why not?
dunno
also thought it would work. but with the 5060 ti in the pci slot it only shows an underscore blinking for 4 times and then just an endless blackscreen.

Meanwhile, here's some AMD native 4K gaming performance shilling that not a single hardware reviewer was able to replicate.
But let's make a big deal out of MFG shilling.

>>106105822
Also I hope the next step is adding dynamic FG to reach whatever your monitor's refresh rate is without needing to test the multipliers.

>>106105510
>one random screengrab
idk what to say anymore

>>106105528
xsx normal controller is very light don't even need to put batteries in it, compatability with all shit, no paddles do you need paddles?
ps5 controller, can run 1000hz polling and way more responsive than xsx controller, no paddles
ps5 edge controller, paddles but costs insane fucking amounts?
maybe those game saars controllers are good never tried them or whatever the new meme ones are with hall effect joysticks

>>106105627
Jensen is just getting fucked giving out samples to techtubers that fuck him over
he's gonna cut all supply to techtubers soon, no more day 1 reviews
source: it appeared to me in a dream

>>106105664
nothing just works anymore, AMD cursed our timeline by trying to incorporate chiplets into everything

>>106105822
>win more setting
how bad is the artifacts though?

>>106105859
>artifacts
>at 240hz
Be for real. If you aren't pixel peeping and screenshotting each frame you will literally never know.

>>106105528
linus techtips did a controller face off video like 6-12 months ago and offered a bunch of recommendations which are usually either better for the same price as elite controllers or much cheaper and just as good.

>>106105528
dual sense or the pro version

>>106105885
don't do this, coming from a multiple dualsense owner

what if I buy 7600x today and hope 7800X3D prices fall after AM6 comes out?

>>106105906
y

>>106105912
why waste money on 7600x
just buy 9800x3d, its close to msrp

>>106105809
>my 5060ti arrives tomorrow and the rest of the pc in two more weeks so i was going to plug the gpu into my 8 year old pc
pls report back if you got it to work.

>>106105972
because

>>106105996
Whats the price of 9600x there btw

>>106105912
Just shows you're bad at math & have unrealistic pricing expectations.
>7600X current price: $180
>7800X3D current price: $367
A 7800X3D would have to be discounted below $180 in the future for this purchasing sequence to make sense.
A used 5800X3D costs over $180 atm.

>'I don't live in the US.'
It doesn't matter. AMD will end 7800X3D production before they have to discount that chip for under $300.

>>106105996
its 450€ at mindfactory de

Should I go with a tower cooler (e.g. Noctua) or an AiO for 9950X3D? So far I've been using NH-D15 for my 5900x with good results. I was wondering though if it's worth it changing the cooling type for a more power hungry CPU like that.
If this gets answered I would gladly repay with my reaction images.

>>106105822
i sure would like to make use of MFG one day once I get a 400hz 3440x1440 monitor

>>106105954
sony still doesn't have official drivers and sometimes going between steam input and non-steam input games fucks it up, and also 99.9% of games use ABXY anyway. not to mention, it's bulky because of the built in battery which you don't need if you're on pc. there are literally tons of 3rd party controllers better than a dualsense that use xinput and have ABXY buttons.

>>106106010
>Whats the price of 9600x there btw
~240 Euro
>>106106011
>7800X3D current price: $367
*$580
>>106106019
>its 450€ at mindfactory de
There's a border between here and EU, customs will take 27% fee for all tech.

>>106106062
500€ isnt so bad
what would be bad is waste money on a temporary cpu that you want to replace from the get go

>>106105868
so the base frame rate is 80?
I only tested 60-120 on lossless scaling once and it looked bad
have not tried fg yet
>you will literally never know.
the higher the base frame rate is maybe? I have not tested it

>>106105906
I have one it works fine (for now)
I'm guessing stickdrifting?

>>106106022
one is free one is better

>>106106062
dang that sucks the 7600x and 9600x are very close here in eastern yurope

>>106106081
eh, you need at least 40 fps for it to not feel bad on a 5090, i dunno where the 60 thing came from

I love working for my business

Maybe the new hustle is running cheaper gaming computers to Europe and South America

I ordered water cooling components from china, they will arrive by christmas, fuck sake.

>>106104988
What if I like lane sharing? Bet you never thought of that did you fucker? Huh huh huh

>>106106062
>*$580
Like I said before, regional pricing differences don't matter because your discount expectations are so unrealistic (over 40% discount on one of the most popular gaming CPUs ever made).
AMD will use that 3D-Vcache packaging capacity for more profitable CPUs.
GL finding a used 7800X3D at that price in your country.

>>106106210
Intel it is.

>>106106049
>play the last of us on pc
>the retard shapes are literally set up the opposite of what they should be by default

Is any Intel could a good idea for a non workstation build?

>>106106240
Here is some context regarding X3D chip assembly lead times.

What AM4 CPU should I buy that supports windows 11? Doesn't need to be really powerful but it should be a nice upgrade from my 3600x

>>106105854
7900xtx is about 57% faster than the 6950xt in general.

when 6950xt gets 40fps the 7900xtx gets 70fps

>>106106240
>buying a dead socket right before they come out with nova lake and 14rmb of l3 cache

Why can't we get a motherboard with a cmos button and that other button on the back and no lane sharing and a debugging screen?

>>106106272
5800xt is the best deal right now.

>>106106279
What if it sucks?
>what is Bartlett Lake-S
>>106106270
It explains why it's so expensive but doesn't make my job of fitting rig within budget, any easier.

>>106106278
Those 4K native performance figures were expected at launch (Nov/Dec '22).
Not nearly 3 years' worth of drivers, OS, and game patch improvements.
If you want to justify the 7900 XTX performance shilling nearly 3 years after launch, give MFG's quirks 2+ years to mature.

>>106106316
Nova lake will be 144mb of l3 and 16 cores, 32 cuck cores, and 4 mini cuck cores. It's going to be their swan song before they go out of business and will be good.

>>106106372
Something is always coming out, you won't ever buy anything or game with that mentality.

>>106105488
the issue was mentioned on the K19 firmware page and a FiiO contact person responded it's hardware related and they don't plan on fixing it. It doesn't matter for me what causes it but if I pay over a 1000 bucks for a device I'd expect it to work out of the box in any situation cause cheaper ones don't have this problem.

>>106106372
It won't be good for gaming or anything latency-dependent, because Intel's tiled-CPUs are cost-optimized designs.
They want the expensive TSMC compute tile to be as small as possible.

>>106105992
actually i lied it will arrive early next week

>>106106151
talking about the artifacts, not the feeling
looked like ass on lossless scaling atleast, long time ago
maybe fg looks better
the artifacting makes it not even worth using if it's bad

>>106106081
>one is free one is better
nuff said, thanks!

>>106102891 (OP)
How do i know if a PSU is compatible with a case? What does "formfactor sfx" mean?

>>106106538
unless you buy mini itx sizes its unlikely you'll have problems buying atx psus

>>106106515
All the GPU designers and gaming console manufacturers will eventually shill frame generation. It's good for their business.

>>106106538
look up psu sizes

>>106106580
I'm immune to shilling though I just use my eyes

>>106106562
>>106106598
It is a mini-itx build. And I want to migrate it into a bigger case.

>>106106636
don't get the small sfx psu then, they're usually more expensive

>>106106382
I bought am4 at 3600 for $200 with an $80 mobo then just waited and got a 5700x3d for $160. Now I'm just waiting for am6 and will buy a 600 class of am6 then do the same thing.

>>106105996
damn. what country is this?

>>106106733
You don't need more™.

>>106106636
>itx

>>106106022
>>106106525
How's this setup, lads? It's meant to be a workstation but I won't pass up playing games in spare time. I don't upgrade often so this time I've got budget to go wild, especially with GPU.

>>106106776
Buy a pcie m.2 nvme card and run 4x2tb 4.0 nvmes in raid 5 instead of those sata drives.

>>106106650
I already got the psu. It's 3 years old. I'm wondering if I need a different form factor for the bigger case

>>106106746
I already said I'm migraiting to an ATX case. Cunt.

>>106106830
Buy this and an atx board instead and stop worrying about itx case markup

>>106106830
it will work but it won't be pretty

>>106106813
Woah I've never seen this before. Does it work

>>106106813
Hmm, I might look into it. Seems interesting, but wouldn't RAID 10 be better since I'd be using 4 nvme ssds anyway?

>>106106913
ok thx. I think picrel answers my question

>>106106952
there are also brackets you can buy to fill in that gap

should I go full white rgb showcase style build which will be like $500 more expensive than just no rgb and specific color?

>>106107006
yeah and get an anime figurine in there or two that'll be so sick

>>106107006
fractal north orange glow on black & wood build is the thinking mans choice

>>106106776
Get the pro version of the aio, fans are infinitely better. Also there’s a minor incompatibility between the water pump and the top m.2 heatsink. You either need to rotate the pump, remove the heatsink or file it down

>>106107034
true, sadly it can't fit larger water cooling than 360 iirc

It came!

>>106107034
I do wood c8 orange glow. But I have 120mm fans because they were half the price and am dissatisfied with the gaps between them. I need to buy 9 140mms.

>>106107083
Gaming Trio is a nice model, grats.

>>106106153
How much do those PCs sell for?

>>106107068
That's fine because you'll never need more than a 360mm cooler

>>106106153
looks expensive
i hope you take as much money as possible from your customers

>>106107083
If you want to attract world class women you really should consider the 5090

>>106107143
>>106107253
It was $920 with tax and tip, then they are giving me $480 for my 4070 Super.

Wanted a better card for PCVR.

>>106107253
Sirs if I am driving the bmw and have a 5090 computer part will this really achieve women?

>>106107059
Thanks anon! I'll definitely remember that. Will rotating the pump have much impact on cooling efficiency? Provided I install everything as God intended ofc.

>>106106281
Because you just can't, it would be impossible to make one with all of those features.

>>106107083
That card has nothing but driver issues

>>106107281
People have been doing it, unfortunately can’t tell you what the performance/lifetime implications are.
Just check their website for the compatibility chart

>>106107298
It can be overclocked to a 5080 for $850 plus tip.

>>106107270
Get the beta version of Afterburner and OC it.
>>106095751
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-4-6-6-beta-6-with-unofficial-rdna4-support.456792/

Is this build good for Linux?
I'm mostly interested in gaming and I plan to install Linux Mint.

>>106107393
Ok, I just checked with Arctic. It looks like they provide a compatible heatsink if presented with a proof of purchase for the mobo. So it looks like it won't be such a big issue after all.
Once again, thanks for the valuable info Anon.

>>106107408
>Get the beta version of Afterburner and OC it.
I got that downloaded yesterday. The card can also be flashed with a different firmware to boost it further.

>spent hours picking out asus motherboard
>apparently it has intrusive malware
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_KWP04pfs
well, what the fuck am I supposed to buy now?

>>106106331
Why you ESL bitch?

>>106107426
Not that CPU cooler, it's time to let it go.
https://youtu.be/YY-8PZKcMYg?t=1540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bv7Tn4zqRc
The rest is fine.

>>106107408
>>106107447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVF2v23qm8M

>>106107399
no?
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-vanguard-soc/44.html
max oc is 95fps

5080 as a base gets 102fps

>>106107508
The post above you...lol

>>106107399
Nigger the drivers literally dont work for Nvidia who cares about 2% faster if you get 0fps black screen crash

>>106107276
>>106107270
Yes, it will achieve women. I have experienced it myself. 5090 is a panty dropper.

>>106107508
and?
max oc 5070ti is 95fps
as in top oc sample
most people will get worse like 90-92fps as shown there

>>106107522
$2700 vs $850. So I choose the later.

>>106107473
4x MFG performance wasn't as overhyped as AMD's "native 4K" performance shilling for the busted 7900 XTX.
But it's bad when NVIDIA overhypes their features. Kek'd.

Is MSI's Suprim version more of a meme or there are any notable differences compared to Gaming trio?

>>106107516
>>106107536

>>106107537
And that's why you will never have sex

>>106107541
Okay so you're ESL & Retarded. Why can't you process anything? Don't answer that, I don't care what idiots like you say.

>>106107546
Suprim mostly has a slightly better cooler and a higher power limit, no need to buy it for a 5070 Ti since you can flash the Suprim/Vanguard vBIOS.

>>106107399
the card still doesnt work???? on linux or windows or freebsd

>>106107547
Did you watch the video? You are flashing the 5080 firmware onto the 5070 ti. It can do more than what fucking techpowerup can do with MSI. I bet they couldn't even boost the memory to 3000.

>>106107561
You're the ESL who couldn't understand Jensen was shilling MFG, he literally said 5070=4090 is impossible without Tensor cores.

that will be a driver crash please

>>106107456
You can enter the BIOS and disable Armory Crate or whatever the fuck it's called before you install the OS.
MSI and Gigabyte have their own set of intrusive driver updaters.

>>106107576
he literally gained 1% in timespy

>>106107621
Chinkshit game. Vendor-locked ray-tracing. Kek'd.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1m38dbs/i_just_bought_a_9060_xt_but_theres_no_ray_tracing/

>>106107628
asrock it is then

How's the core parking on 16-core amd cpus these days? Do you still need to update BIOS or does it work outside the box?

>>106107675
Wouldn't be surprised if ASRock has something similar, it was a feature pushed by Intel & AMD to facilitate normie PC building & driver maintenance.

>>106107696
time to move to the woods I guess
we had a nice run

>>106107669
Hence why the 5080 is not worth the money...lol

>>106107710
Just disable the option in the BIOS before you install or enter the OS.
ASRock's feature is called Auto Driver Installer.

>>106107760
Driver Hub asks you if you want to install it even if you forget the disable it in the BIOS. Not sure about armoury crate

>>106107426
You want cachy os not mint

>goychasers
really?

>>106107777
They should all be similar; board manufacturers are just putting their branding into Intel or AMD's features.

I wish I could pay $1000 to just make my current rig more powerful.

>>106107800
Driver Hub and Armoury Crate are both from ASUS. It depends on the board which one you get. I think another anon last thread complained about Gigabyte also having something like this. Does MSI do this shit?

>>106107865
MSI's is called Driver Utility Installer.
Intel and AMD want their board partners to have these features to help normies keep their board drivers up-to-date.

>>106107681
Why would you park cores, just use core pinning

>>106107484
Ok, thanks.
>>106107784
I'm new to Linux, maybe i will switch to Cachy OS later.

I bought this hunk of junk since I found it for near-MSRP and was tempted by it. I know it's supposed to be the janky entry model. How fucked am I really?

>>106107488
>Tomb Raider & Time Spy benchmarks in 2025
Boomer

>>106107673
What even is the legality of arbitrarily locking out users from graphics settings due to their gpu choice? It has gpus from all three vendors in the system requirements but nothing that says an Nvidia RTX card is required for RT. Free game so whatever I guess but still.

>>106108037
Depends on how noise-sensitive you are.
Some people are fine with the fan noise at stock settings, others say it's okay after undervolting the GPU.

>>106107522
Damn... I need a 5090

>>106107865
>>106107956
I assume it won't work on linux anyway
so I'm probably safe from this

>>106108086
RTX-sponsored games don't usually set RT-exclusivity contracts.
It's more likely that game's developers are out of their depth.
When a game has an unstable DX12 implementation (confirmed with that crap), it usually exposes the game developer's technical limitations.

>>106108089
Not at all to be honest. I play games on my janky 3060 laptop I bought 3 years ago due to having to move frequently. Now I've finally settled down and want to build a desktop. I use my headset at all times and even when my janktop sounds like a jet engine I don't notice.

Anyway, that's good news, thank you anon. Was gonna undervolt that thing either way.

>people are confused why a chinese mobile gambling game doesnt support rt on amd

sigh

>Tim's first gpu was ATI
And we can pretty safely assume that Steve probably was the same. Does this explain all the shilling?

>>106108279
No, because ATI used to make competitive GPUs back in the day.
They were the first to design larger gaming GPUs on advanced nodes and forced NVIDIA to sell better chips.

>>106108053
what's hip these days young fella? port royal and steel nomad?

>need 12gb vram and an $800 card to run any game on 1440p
This shit is ridiculous

>>106108461
TQ2 just came out
>8gb VRAM MINIMUM
I am finally walled, you've served me well old friend but it seems we can go no further together.

>>106108461
ue5 jeetsloppa doesn't equal games

>>106108499
>TQ2
Is it any good?

I don't want fake frames Nvidia!!!

>>106108461
a 5060 at 330$ will be okay
its not like it runs games worse than consoles unless it does

>>106108504
cmon man, The Alters was nice. stop hating on ue5 just because you have shit gpus. nothing wrong with shit gpus but stop seething about nice looking games, it's just cope

>>106103038
White-Pal, 2 stickers anon.

>>106108516
It is very graphically intensive, even a 5070ti struggles. Also there is only 6 hours of content, it's an early early early access. Who knows what the full game will be like.

>>106108499
>720p
Impressive anon

>>106108554
I can do 1080p but everything just runs so much better at 720 I leave it at that.

What are the chances that the 6000 series isn't actually going to be a big technological leap? Maybe I should just bite the bullet and upgrade now.

>>106108697
The more performant RTX 60 cards are going to cost more for sure, NVIDIA's going to continue to make the smallest possible GPU for the -60/Ti tier cards.
It will be a good gen for both GeForce & Radeon cards, it will be a competitive generation (if you don't need CUDA).

What LGA1700 motherboards can sustain 4 sticks of DDR4 3600MHz CL16?

>>106107752
The 5080 is the most cucked card you can buy right now honestly worse than 8gb 5060s. It was SUPPOSED to be 24gb to begin with

>>106108904
The 6080 will redeem itself.

>>106108904
>It was SUPPOSED to be 24gb to begin with
does it have empty slots for VRAM or something?

>>106108928
Nah, Samsung can make higher density GDDR7 chips (24Gbit = 3GB * 8 of them).
MSI accidentally leaked the box design for the 5080 Vanguard with 24GB of memory advertised.
https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-again-teases-geforce-rtx-5080-with-24gb-memory

Man Radeons driver TDR is super impressive on Windows now. Even with my unstable undervolt it won't crash the game. It will pause for a few seconds and continue but with the amd driver timeout popup but holy shit no crash or game close. If you try to undervolt on Nvidia you will see a black screen or timeout faster than you can blink.

>>106109031
Unstable overclock/undervolt is still an unstable tuning, whether a GPU has a better clock stretching fallback or not.
You want to fix that setup either way.

>>106109065
I know but I'm highlighting that no matter how unstable my GPU is on voltage it won't crash Windows or the game itself. It's the total opposite on Nvidia where just the slightest instability will close the game.

>>106109077
You don't even have to restart the system if your unstable GPU OC crashes the display driver.
Just go to Device Manager, disable the GeForce display adapter, and re-enable it.
That's how MS Windows software engineers recover from display driver crashes.

>>106108928
Samsung couldn't make 3gb modules in time for launch.

>>106109017
The 16gb 5080 is the new 10gb 3080

Will there be more new AM5 CPU or that's it?

>>106109202
a new AM4 CPU was released like a month ago lol

>>106109202
Yes probably

>>106109202
im betting on both zen6 and zen7 being am5

>>106109180
NVIDIA probably planned to sell a $1000 16GB 5080 and a 24GB 5080 that costs more.
Like what they've tried with the $900 4080 12GB (rebranded to 4070 Ti) and the $1200 4080 16GB.
The 4070 Ti was supposed to be worse.

>>106108904
I had planned to upgrade from my old 3080 Ti to the 5080 before the latter came out, but when they revealed that it'll only have 16 GB despite the high price I just grabbed a 7900 XTX instead. I'm seriously done with nvidia's jewishness.

>>106109239
>zen7 being am5

>>106109250
Those wack-ass eyebrows are what's tiresome

>>106109239
they said am5 is supported until 2027
ddr6 memory comes in around that time too, I guess am6 will have mix of ddr5 + 6 options

what amd decides to do prob depends on how well the socket keeps scaling. They obviously plan around the socket being able to give more power and more data lanes that what their early cpu gens might utilize. If they can keep making better cpus without hitting some sort of limit they can plausibly release zen 7 on am5. Why not after all.
5500x3d came out for am4 like a month ago.

>>106109250
I went from 3060 12gb to 9070xt.

>>106109347
>I guess am6 will have mix of ddr5 + 6 options
They would have to have fucky wucky memory controllers to do both. I doubt it with how shitty they are on ddr5 already. Not being able to expo/xmp 4 sticks is fucking absurd

>>106108830
most of them probably
MSI should be best for 4 sticks but it depends on what's available in your region

>>106109370
Don't forget about CUDIMM RAM becoming a thing. When it starts to get more normalized, it means that the memory controller won't be on the CPU but will be directly on the RAM itself, leaving the RAM speed independent of the CPU.

>>106109347
i dont believe in dd6
ddr5 has plenty of headroom and pcie 5.0 is barely utilized by consumer cards

Is this true?

>open my 9800x3d
>paper under the CPU says "Red Team"
Fucking lmao when did they start doing that?

Im gaming on WiFi and using an ethernet cable is not possible for now. Should I get a motherboard with WiFi 7 in this case? Is there a huge diff between WiFi 6e and 7?

>>106109448
if you cant use an ethernet cable that must mean you dont have access to a router which means you dont have wifi
so dont worry about it

>>106109448
does your router support it?
i wouldn't bother either way
if you consider using wifi on desktop then you don't really care about your internet connection

>>106109404
Sure but when it's that close you're mostly looking at the game selection and system configuration. Or, from the consumer's perspective, platform cost and feature differences.

will they update AM5 chipsets to pcie 5 or is that going to come on AM6?

>>106109552
Bro?

>>106109564
ye?

>>106109390
It's entirely possible that consumer stuff stays on 5.0 until they can max it out, which might be years after 6.0 or even 7.0 deploys in the server world

>>106109552
You'd have to ask someone at AMD. Personally I doubt it because it'd cut in to their Threadripper/Epyc segment.

>>106109587
that's a good reason I'm not on am5 train yet. I'd like pcie 5 on chipset so ssds have higher speed and don't eat into gpu lanes when I use all m2 slots.

>>106109552
x870 and a lot of b850 have pcie 5

>>106109605
x870 boards are horrible, will there be an upgrade before we get new chipsets?

>>106109605
picrel is you. there's no pcie 5 chipset on the market anon. or not on am5.

>>106109605
>>106109616
as in am5 cpus have pcie 5 lanes but chipsets are on pcie 4 lanes.

>>106109601
There are boards available without lane sharing. Their main problem is the price - that bandwidth needs lots of metal, shielding, and SMDs. Adding PCIe5 to the chipset would require even more which rather defeats the point of using the consumer platform.

>>106101639
Sorry just seeing this now, thank you for the info. 4070 Ti Super seems pretty solid but I'm not finding many under $700 which is a little out of my price range. I could save up for a few more paychecks but if I'm gonna do that I think I'd rather just get a new 5070 Ti.
Also what's wrong with the Core Ultra 7? Microcenter has them for a pretty reasonable price with a bundle and they seem good for what I do on the computer.

>>106109673
I get it in a way, the chipset is pretty far away from the cpu and hard keeping pcie 5 speeds over that distance. still...mfs pull a lot of tricks and you'd expect all ssds run without eating into gpu lanes.

>>106109695
Well I guess for actual work Core Ultra might be decent. It's shit for anything latency-dependent, like gaming.

>>106109702
It could be worse. On my B450 board using the second M.2 disables ALL the chipset slots.

>>106109721
The only games I play are like, Civilization and Balatro and that kind of stuff on occasion. I mostly do motion graphics work.

I've just cloned my HDD to SSD with DiskGenius, changed the boot order in BIOS from HDD to SSD, however when I boot up from SSD it says "Reboot and select proper boot device".
I have booted now from HDD again, and the files seem to have all been cloned correctly. The partritions look the same as well, no difference between both. The only difference I can see is that NTFS is 1% bigger on the SSD if that's relevant.
These are the drives.

We need new

>>106109745
I'm on b550 and have one cpu m2 ssd and one on chipset, both work without eating into gpu lanes. i have a 3rd one on an adapter on a single pcie lane and that works faster than a sata ssd, but not by much. so right now, if i were to "upgrade" to am5, I'd like at least an extra m2 into cpu, without eating into my gpu lanes. that should be a common sense expectation, yet most am5 boards don't support that, at least not on the lower price points. which begs the question, how much am I paying extra and for exactly what, moving on am5? hence my hope for at least pcie 5 chipset that would solve the eating into gpu lanes clusterfuck on am5.

>>106109756
>I mostly do motion graphics work.
...koikatsu porn?

>>106109778
Also they're both 1TB.

>>106109802
Well like I said I don't think it'd solve it. The problem isn't lane count (the CPUs have 32 lanes) but rather the cost to support all those lanes. FWIW, if you're only using the card for gaming then PCIe5x8 is more than enough bandwidth.

>>106109822
Nah just kind of motion design/typography stuff for local musicians and friend's video projects and whatnot. Mostly for my own enjoyment and creative fulfilment though, but sometimes I'll make a few hundred bucks here and there. I have thought about getting into making porn because you can make a lot of money doing that but I just can't wrap my head around rigging or complex modeling.

>>106109202
There's Zen 6, unless you meant to say Zen 5 CPU, in which case there is technically space for a poorfag 9500 model. Maybe 3D cache for a lower class like a 9700X3D.

>>106109874
why have them in the cpu for two m2 ssds if they're not going to implement it? I've seen some some graphics about am5 online and they show two m2 x4 into cpu but manufacturers implement only one and they add usb on the second m2. they could simply mount the connector on the backside of motherboard next to cpu it's not that hard, has been done before.

>>106109944
It's all a matter of money to the manufacturers. If they need to shave BOM to hit their target price point they will do so.

>>106109982
what price point brother am5 price point is highest ever fuck that price point. I don't care about their problems of implementing it, not my problem. new generation = new features/higher speeds for same or even less money, that's how the game was played for a long time. am5 fucks that, gives you nothing useful for a lot of extra money. sure ddr5 and new am5 cpus but the rest is pretty much the same shit in practice, and it costs a lot extra vs am4. paid $90 or smth for my b550.

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>>106109850
Seems the only way I can boot from SSD is if I have HDD on boot order but choose to boot from an SSD (one-time tooltip) lol, so I'll have to do this every time.

>>106104811
>radeon card
>for rendering
lmfao, save yourself the headache and get NVIDIA

>>106105036
even a 5060ti 16GB is twice as powerful as your GPU