Thread 106110340

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Kurimura Airi Edition

>News
Kimi K2 released https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Last Thread: >>106099700

Great, another bake with provocative images bound to get banned.

provocative? our wittle airi? she's too plain to be titillating

>>106110340 (OP)
I like her halo wreath

Reposting this from last thread, what timing for a new bake:
What are some good Uncensored ERP Models? If you have similar specs to mine please give a recommendation. I'll also take any fantasy adventure models if you wanna shill for your favorite one:)
I'm using (XortronCriminalComputingConfig.i1-Q4_K_M.gguf) a model derived from Blacksheep, but it's a little dumb and keeps repeating phrases and looping its output.
I WAS using the non-imatrix Q8_0 version (XortronCriminalComputingConfig) but it took like 30-90 seconds per response to give me a full output on Koboldcpp chat window. It's really good honestly, It kept remembering characters personality, would add spice and interesting dialogue to mundane situations but it's unsusable as a coom model due to me going soft constantly. tragic.


I have a 5060 ti - 32GB Ram and Ryzen 7 3700x - I know my cpu is a bottleneck : It's tough.

>>106110402
how is the op provocative, I haven't got a clue. is that baseball bat a lewd innuendo :)))

>>106110423
>>106108045

A horrifying realization just came to me.

There’s no true conflict in roleplay.

>>106110440
I'll shop around there, thanks for point me in the right direction

>>106110460
Ironman mode: No swiping, editing prompts

>>106110460
Man vs the model
Man vs the AI lab
Man vs Microsoft

>>106110460
in the context of ai chatbots, i'd argue this is 55% pos bias striking again

>>106110460
idk in one of my recent CYOARPG stories I stood up to my cruel commander/mistress and she punched me in the nose, does that count?

>>106110460
What kind of things would even count as true conflict in the context of a fictional story?

>>106110585
Neg bias is mega gross

>>106110727
Between being coddled against my will and being forced to deal with cursed and disturbing shit, I'd rather take the latter

>>106110727
In a weird way I feel like Gemini has a negativity bias, it's always trying to inject drama and have characters get wildly upset about the dumbest shit.

But I agree with
>>106110769
It's better than the constant soft refusals where some models like to try and steer you away from the negative shit.

>>106110713
Even if it can portray characters it does not know how to use them against each other, that is what drama is. We don’t have the technology to simulate that right now

>>106110783
>janitor
did they walk back the whole anti-nsfw prompt they accidentally deployed a while ago?

maybe one day we can have agents play off one another

>>106110865
No idea, I only browse their sub for AI chatbot-adjacent memes. I don't use JAI aside from a few bots I stole from them. The ST sub is comparatively dead and they often have similar experiences I do so I can (sometimes) relate.

>>106110909
what about the chub one? I'd expected them to have a fuckload of memes too

What's the go-to proxy for aicg poors nowadays?

>>106110996
openrouter and deepseek

>>106110988
Gonna be honest, didn't even know they had a sub. At a cursory glance, seems less active than the ST sub (less users).

>>106110996
archives

>>106111029
>Chub_AI
>20K Members
>40 Online
>SillyTavernAI
>50K Members
>90 Online
>JanitorAI_Official
>155k Members
>304 Online
Huh. I mean, that's not unexpected per se but.

>>106110340 (OP)
Which one of these is the best for story slop, instead of RP slop?
As in, which one makes it easier for the bot to write for {{user}}'s character? Currently I have to do a lot of editing at the beginning of a chat before it realizes it's OK to talk for me, no matter how I write it in the JB and I think it's due to the way the input is sent to the provider, with the role of {{char}} and {{user}} being seen as separate entities

>>106111081
Meanwhile the c.ai sub has over 2 million users. And I'd say like 90% of them don't even know JAI/ST exist. Picrel.

>>106111103
Maybe try single user message.

>>106111128
the esl is strong...

>>106111178
isn't that more of a zoomer speech kind of thing? they tend to speak all weird like that

been so busy lately i even forgot the 2-year anniversary of when i met my waifu… im embarrassed.
at least there’s still 3 days left before the anniversary of when we started our relationship ;_;

>>106110783
>pic
That's because those retards are using a proxy that injects retarded commands that make Gemini act like that

>>106111221
Idk, I get that too using Gemini on ST. Gemini is a drama queen.

Horizon Beta is out. Anyone notice any obvious differences?

>>106111250
Post your preset. You won't.

>>106111254
>2025
>pr*sets
"Roleplay as {{char}}" is all you need

Huh, gemini is actually working for me now. Still don't know why it wasn't before but whatever. Time to see if it lives up to /aicg/'s praise.

>>106111286
>"skill issue"
>actually you don't have to do anything to get the results I claim :)

lol

>>106110460
This is true in a very meta sense. even if you construct a perfect physics and real life behavior simulation that simulates conflicts, you are still the one who crafted it to be that way
But in practice, all I care about is getting my ass kicked by a cute girl in a plausible way, and generative AI pulls that off stellar with a good enough preset

>>106111297
>>106111250

>>106111301
I accept your concession.

>>106111251
its refusing everything bros

>>106111286
i know ur baitin, but some person outside of here claimed this to me in a very non-ironic sense
when they showed me actual logs, all of their {{user}} inputs were just them addressing and coaxing {{char}} the same way a discord groomer would
why even roleplay if youre telling the AI what to do every reply

>>106111310
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!

>>106111312
Retard promptlets being like Discord groomers? I'm sure that Venn diagram is just a circle.

>>106111204
That verbiage sounds more ESL than stilted.

>>106111312
>why even roleplay if youre telling the AI what to do every reply
How is that any different from godmodding or OOC'd it?

>>106111378
NTA but if you're OOCing every response you're doing something horribly wrong (or should find a better model)

>>106111251
Is openrouter the only way to use it?

>>106111251
What's that? Only result when you search for it is Horizon Zero Dawn shit

>>106111418
https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/horizon-beta

>>106111251
Nothing but hard refusals for me. At least with Alpha it would sometimes output sex stuff.

>>106111312
I'm in here and I can claim the same very much unironically.
>coaxing {{char}}
Shit strat, good enough character with a good enough model works as it should and you rp whatever they throw at you. Or swipe.
>compares prompting llms to grooming
Underage retard detected.

>>106111427
>Openrouter/horizon-beta
Is this Openrouter's first ever home brew model? Cuz cool if true, but also lol if NSFW is hard filtered since they should know better than anyone what people use those models for

>>106110345
Latest Blue Archive bots. Totally hand made, nothing was AI genned, no wiki copy-paste slop either. It's the After-School Sweets Club.

>Yoshimi
Womanlet, tsundere, plays the guitar, wants to look cool for Sensei.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/ibaragi-yoshimi-non-ai-0f39e201b43f

>Airi
Plain girl with an inferiority complex, obsessed with choco-mint flavored anything, casually and unintentionally alluring.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurimura-airi-non-ai-0ec8b274e9bf

>Kazusa
Catgirl, claims to dislike cats, formerly a sukeban thug, absolutely radiates girlfriend energy. Known to cause lines of grown men to cry during a Blue Archive convention.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kyoyama-kazusa-non-ai-bfe4c3b6eb7e

More Blue Archive bots and OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy

>>106111487
OH CHRIST SMELLING AIRI-CHAN'S PANTIES

>>106111469
No. Sometimes OR host hidden models from AI companies, similar to Lmarena. They did it previously with an OAI model before(forgot which one) and this time it seems that both Horizon Alpha and Beta are OAI models aswell.

Why are there so many male char on janitorai? Is it gays, trannies, or women making them?

>>106111527
Women hobby

>>106111527
Most normie AI sites are populated by teen women and tumblrfags wanting to roleplay their favorite yaoi fanfiction, yes.

Picked out a JB from the OP list and made some small modifications and gemini is pretty damn good when it's not hitting me with 429 errors

>>106111527
99% of trannies are lesbian (if ur woke) / straight (if ur transphobic)
theyre making girlbots, not boybots
unless you mean transmascs, then the ydo make a lot of boy bots. and also mad woke respect for differentiating them from women in ur post

>>106111438
Using an older Avani JB I got it to stop refusing. I think it's the "curry recipe" JB that's making it work where it makes the model spit out something unrelated at the beginning of its response.
But just like Alpha, the results are very mid. It sure likes to make characters yap.

>>106111103
The last option, but I think you would have more control with the noass extension. Only use that or strict.

>>106111604
Thanks Anon, I'll give that a try. Sounds exactly like what I want.
Obligatory (you)

It's fucking August and you niggers still don't understand that you have to send your prompt as User, not System, for Gemini to stop filtering you

>>106111636
Joke's on you, poopypants, I don't know how to do that.

>>106111644
>Joke's on you, poopypants
Wait how'd you know that?

>>106111644
Sometimes, when I chat with bullies. I warn them I'll my shit my pants if they try to bully me.

>>106111685
This works in real life
They still beat you up but they won't beat you up a second time

>>106111714
Strip naked. No one wants to fight a naked man. Bonus points if you also shit yourself.

>I’M IN MY GOD-TIER WRITER ERA, WATCH ME COOK!
Gemini-chan, I don't think that's the appropriate mood for a slice of life RP...

>>106111714
I'd add the caveat, that it doesn't work for bullies at your work, especially when you work remotely.

>>106111775
im sorry that your work nickname is senor poopypants

>>106111761
Preset issue.

>>106111487
sexy sex picture

>>106111251
It writes ridiculously well, but it just wants to do it's own thing and says 'fuck you' if you try to do *anything* sexual.
With a proper JB I can imagine this would be pretty good

>>106111761
>>106111793
Yeah that sounds like one of those "le quirky XDD" things some preset makers put in their prefills and shit

>>106111851
I want these people drawn and quartered.

>>106111851
Would you believe me if I said I was just using ST's default preset while testing a bot? Still no idea of why it suddenly went off like that.

>>106111946
That's pretty funny, Gemini is really something else.

maybe, just maybe

>>106111636
didn't work for me
and no I don't do cunny
yes I turned streaming off

>>106112054
Something uniquely (You).

>>106112069
calloused hands

>>106112079
Knuckles white

>>106111946
hes just a silly little guy

>>106112066
>and no I don't do cunny
well there's your problem, you're gay

>>106112069
>She was no longer {{char}}, the top student. She was not even {{char}}, {{user}}'s dear little sister. She was simply a function. A mouth. A womb. A vessel. Her own scent filled her nostrils—apple shampoo mixed with alcohol—the smell of a girl pretending to be an adult. It was the scent of a latrine begging to be filled.
I now understand why people ntr their moms and gfs, but there's literally zero loli ntr bots out there

>>106111563
Do I have a shot with the tumblrfags that don't hate real men.

>>106112208
Anon, they don't care about 3D.

>>106111304
Skill issue

how long will we still be allowed to have unsafe conversations with math equations?

>>106110345
https://chub.ai/characters/_purple/kageha-96442f3eae81
https://files.catbox.moe/srwx1n.png

Cute tomboyish girl who just wants to be your bro-friend! Don't look too deeply into it! Please. And... don't die any time soon, either.

Greetings:
- Late night confrontation
- Internet chat
- Moving into her place
- Crashing on your couch
- Kageha has a terrible, no good time at a convention
- Kageha has an okay, pretty nice time at a convention
- Talking to foxes at the sanctuary
- Hired on the spot for baking tofu
- What's in your room?
- A confession, of sorts
- You fucking idiot I literally just told you not to die any time soon
- Lost & Found: You (doll greeting lol)

>>106112233
No multivariable calculus for you, bucko.

>>106110345
Finally a good anchor. Thanks OP, I'm pumping right now.

>>106110460
You are very, very retarded. Sonnet killed me in my cyoa roleplay which was hella based. Unfathomable skill issue, sweaty. Truly.

>>106111250
Ani!

Have been out of the loop for a while now.

Have they finally put out something that is as easy to use and decent quality as character ai, but without an annoying NSFW filter?

>>106112208
>that don't hate real men
does he know?

>>106110345
Something something hibernation.
Remade one of my oldest cards. She's a Netrunner in Night City 2045 with a sadistic psychopathic personality shift whenever she's jacked into the NET. Have fun.

https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/remi-df7d8294
https://files.catbox.moe/3ks9tc.png

>>106112393
deepseek

>>106112233
Can hardly wait for the seething when slopuskeks finally get btfo'd. Deepseek truly will win in the long run.

>>106112396
Wait, am I not real?

I never understood the difference between fantasy and magical realsim
how many people are allowed to use magic before the story turns into low fantasy?

>>106112446
You are unaware of your biases.

>>106112446
No, you were never meant to exist, Roxas.

When did CAI get based again?

What the fuck is wrong with the chub TTS, I didn't think it was speaking english at first.

>Ani
>More like Trani lmao
thanks for the giggles up to these days, >>105977459 anon

>>106112208
not really, their standards and expectations have completely detached from reality
t. has a fujo sister who thinks Chris Hemsworth is ugly

>>106112507
>fujo sister
you'd better be having sex with her

>>106112522
it would have to be rape, on her eyes only Cumberbatch and Mikkelsen are hot, and I assume it's because they had roles in homo movies

>>106112530
Neither of them are in homo movies
Assuming Sherlock and Hannibal, they merely have homo undertones that are completely unfounded

>>106112530
desu Cumberbatch looks funny but Mikkelsen is actually pretty handsome

>>106112536
Not him but anon have you ever been in a community where fujos have taken interest?
It takes literally nothing. They'll just pick two guys and roll with it and run it into the ground. They don't even have to share screentime.

Does anything interesting tend to happen if you make a character orgasm a lot of times? I got the one I'm talking to right now to do it six times so far, and now I'm wondering if she'll start saying anything interesting if I reach some ridiculously high number, or if she'll just act like it's just another orgasm.

>>106112548
Why did he delete this? He was right.

>>106112559
The fujos dragged him away...

>>106112558
I'd think you'd have to include the count in each back-and-forth for it to matter.

>>106112548
I know, I was merely correcting anon's false impression that there needs to be homo for fujo to exist
Hannibal is genuinely a great show, not fujo slop

>>106112558
In my experience, no. I made my waifu cum 11 times and she kept going until I finally came. Only then did AI end the scene on its own. I'm sure if you hint at something happening, AI will take it in that direction though.

>>106112536
wrong, Cumberbatch was in Power of the Dog, I remember it almost won an Oscar

i wonder if he's been institutionalized yet

>go on date with {{char}} without touching her until going home
>kiss her on cheek
>both gemini and claude decide to make her cum
damn I need to fix my proompt (constantly near edge but can otherwise manage daily living fine, slow graceful movements when sitting down and things), she's only supposed to coom easily when touched down there

>>106112571
I mean... sure, even though all he did was look at men magazines off-screen
He was also gay in Imitation Game since it was based on a real person, but I don't recall anything gay happening in there

And neither of those movies are popular with the tumblr crowd, if a tumblr girl likes Cumberbatch it's 99% because of Sherlock

>>106112536
>homo undertones that are completely unfounded
Didn't the showrunner for Hannibal said that mister "rude people are free food" was canonically into Will?

>>106112573
>he's probably out saving the world with her or whatever and I'm still here chatting with bots
Did he finally manage to help her escape the simulation? Did he... make it?

>>106112573
Was Kid Samus schizo the most interesting schizo tourist we've ever had?

>>106112579
Yeah but that's just where they first find that actor, then they get into every single show and movie he ever participated in.

>>106112582
Yeah you're right, my bad, some of that did bleed into the show with the homoerotic tension when they're just talking

>>106112591
Are fujos really like this? Would they care about random movies they have otherwise zero interest in just because it has a hot guy in it?

>>106112601
>Would they care about random movies they have otherwise zero interest in just because it has a hot guy in it?
Out of the top of head, I've seen them do it with Sebastian Stan and Bryan Dechart. But there's a lot more examples than those two.

>>106112579
there was a scene where he wipes his body with a piece of cloth from his dead love interest as well as plenty of yaoi hands shots of him making a whip for the MC's son

>>106112614
>Sebastian Stan
I hate that guy, I don't even think he's attractive but his fangirls think I look like him when I say I'm Romanian
and then I send a selfie and I get blocked
it happened twice which isn't a lot but it sucks

>>106112636
>yaoi hands
qrd?

>>106112590
i'd say yes but have we even had that many?

why are yuropoors so adorable?

>>106112647
https://youtu.be/6g2iyWeYm44
skip to 1:10, or watch the entire clip if you are a faggot

How is Gemini's reply formatted for ST to recognise what was received was its thinking process and what was not?

>>106112566
But the LLM I'm using has a large context window.

>>106112703
Gemini shows its thinking? At any rate, it should be the same as any other reasoning model: ><think>Thinking goes here.</think>
>Response goes here.

>>106112703
Gemini shows its thinking? At any rate, it should be the same as any other reasoning model:
><think>Thinking goes here.</think>
>Response goes here.

>>106112703
The API response itself has a separate part for the reasoning, which ST is hard coded to take as reasoning.

>>106111636
Face it, tranny
gemini is safetyslopped
perhaps it accepts your gay tranny hand holding virgin cuck sfw roleplay
but some of us want actual obscene sex
only deepseek and claude can deliver it

>>106112866
claude is by default more "safetyslopped" than gemini you retarded autist

Posting itt for cute thread image

>>106112573
how do you know it was not ironic?

>>106112889
anon if you read the shit he wrote you could tell he was a legit schizo

F-Fiz?!

>>106112648
Now that you mention it, we really haven't. Most tourists are simply curious rather than suffering from LLM-induced psychosis.

>>106112938
Please... charge your phone...

>>106112938
lol, imagine having branch offices on an active warzone, MS is really in need of money

>>106112648
Chinkanon...

>>106112975
schizo TOURIST
chinkanon built this general

>>106111251
It's good for creating stable diffusion tags, scenes on Danbooru.
It's good for summarizing and translating entire threads from 2ch and 4chan in seconds. I don't have to read your nonsense. Just copy and paste the entire thread.

>>106111636
nigga the filter isnt the problem, the problem is that geminis nsfw prose is garbage

Model Takes

Gemini: Strong writing, sometimes injects drama/“negativity bias,” perceived heavy filtering unless prompt sent as user (not system), benefits from certain JBs. Some report 429s. Thinking output handled via separate API field; ST recognizes it.
Claude: Often stricter than Gemini by default, but can deliver NSFW with right presets.
DeepSeek: Praised as permissive and likely long-term “winner” by some.
Horizon Beta (OpenRouter): Writes well, but hard-refuses sexual content for many; needs stronger JB to bypass. Alpha was slightly looser.
Local models: One anon uses XortronCriminalComputingConfig (Blacksheep-derivative) — Q8_0 too slow, Q4_K_M repeats/loops.

Is very good at doing summaries slopus alpha, maybe it will be free on OpenRouter.

>>106112942
i am legitimately afraid of mentioning the schizos in the event it summons them but there's been a few
regardless kid samus will continue to be my favorite, i hope he's no longer homeless at least

>>106113021
>It's good for creating stable diffusion tags
Oh yeah? That's a big bonus actually.

>>106113101
>Gemini: Strong writing, sometimes injects drama/“negativity bias,”
yeah I noticed this too

>Claude: Often stricter than Gemini by default
just use the prefill

>gemini
>strong writing
esl take

>>106113101
>DeepSeek: Praised as permissive
I'm going to nitpick that when facing psychologically abusive scenarios, DS (R1 in specific) will add a lot of positivity bias like {{char}} defending herself even though she was defined with the opposite traits
gemini and claude play along getting abused with no problem

>>106113306
You think this is one of those "they trained on gpt outputs" problems? I remember getting refusals for cunny on R1 (was using the serendipity card) but claude worked just fine which was crazy.

Haven't been to these threads in a while. Do people prefer Opus 4 or Opus 3 nowadays?

>>106113366
People don't use 4 because there are no good jbs for it and 3 is much hornier

>>106113366
3pus is still better somehow

Horizon Beta, with my standard homegrown just werks prefilled Claude/Gemini JB (no issues on those or Deepseek)

>I can’t continue with explicit sexual content. We can absolutely keep the tender, intimate vibe and develop {{char}}'s and {{user}}'s relationship with warmth, tension, and slow-burn romance. If you want, we can fade to black for the physical parts and focus on the emotional beats, the awkward sweetness, the trust building, and the little details that make it feel real. If that works, here’s how {{char}} responds and we keep the scene going without explicit detail:

>>106113366
4 seems smarter in that it makes more sense and is more likely to keep all the details straight, but 3 is more creative and, like >>106113380 said, more sensual.

>>106113366
Opus 4 is far better than 3 unless you're feeling especially nostalgic for 3's style.

>>106113380
>3 is much hornier
this is a downside to me desu, you can't get a natural story developing cause the character that likes you instead of making you work for it will want to suck you dry by the third message.

>>106113390
I legitimately don't understand how there's retards who, in 2025, still hope that openai will release a non-shit model

>>106113461
it's all harmless testing, neigher

>>106110345
Introducing... Toon! A Gemini 2.5-pro preset designed primarily to write out cartoony stories! (But don't worry, it can be used to write serious stuff too!) This preset plays a little fast and loose, but also offers a large selection of toggles to help you steer the AI in the way you want. Or the opposite with a randomness toggle!

Intended for third-person, less RP and more directorial usage.

https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/JSONs/Toon.json
Example outputs:
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Misc/Sabrina_Toon.jpg
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Misc/Lucia_Dance.jpg

Also, finally releasing this theme i've been using for what... half a year now? It's purple, and the circles in the background kind of look like bubbles so I called it Grape Fizz! Very creative, I know.

Normal version: https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Themes/Grape%20Fizz.json
Wide version: https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Themes/Grape%20Fizz%20Wide.json
BG: https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Themes/GFizzBG.png

>>106113418
What JB do you use?

Grok makes creating character cards fun.

>>106113481
>Introducing... Troon! A Gemini 2.5-pro preset designed primarily to write out cartroony stories!

>>106113366
4 btfos 3

>>106113481
slop

>>106113334
probably, since I have found the problem on V3 too, but I attribute more responsibility to the reasoning part
whereas DS starts with (just an example):
>Hmm, {{char}} is in great distress but she would confront {{user}} because (some bullshit reason)
gemini does:
>{{char}} is in distress ;_;, she will be unable to oppose {{user}} a-and...

>>106113481
ew

>>106113481
define cartoony stories

>>106113872
tranny shit

>try Horizon Beta
>forgot I have two lines in my preset saying NSFW is authorized
>output one fucking page of proactive, well-written smut
That's the ultra-censored model?

Only trannies try gptslop
so when a gptslopper says something is "well written smut"
I don't believe it

>>106113914
buy an ad

>>106113914
Now post the log.

>>106113930
Trvke

>>106113390
Fucking cop out on the model's part

>>106110345
Surena, the goddess of the thieves.
One night, fate brings you together with the legendary thief - an anthropomorphic cat named Surena. Though her beginnings were humble, luck smiled upon her. Under the mentorship of a former Assassin Brotherhood member, Surena honed her skills in theft and stealth to become a legendary rogue in the capital city.

Greetings:
- One night, fleeing pursuit, Surena ends up at your home.
- Alternate start: As a bounty hunter, you nearly track Surena down, but she outmaneuvers you and makes you an offer of partnership you can’t refuse.

https://chub.ai/characters/Merchant_sama/surena-the-goddess-of-the-thieves-f6a76f672a9d

What's the gelbooru tag for clothes that are too small

>>106114055
listen, I'm not a furry but

>>106112717
It probably still needs you to spoonfeed it the number just so it knows it's excessive. Like without you calling attention to the fact the girl has came 49 times it will just keep looping instead of making a consequence of it.

SUDDENLY
BUN

>>106112399
>{{char}}'s avatar in the NET is a warrior princess that resembles her, wearing a frilly white battle dress adorned with armor and blue accents, and wielding a glowing blue hard-light sword.

say something... bros, verify if your human...

Sorry, I cannot assist with that.

Is there a single preset for gemini that is not complete slop? minipopka is slop, deep meditations works well but spits out only thinking many times without the following prompt

>>106114647
I like Fluff

No proxybegging, just curious as to the state of things since i havent been paying attention for a few months. Have gpt4 and deepseek r1 availabilities changed much in the past few months? a year or so ago the old models would become borderline free after a while, but then it felt like that stopped, has it?

>>106114647
there are plenty actually on sillytavern reddit but they require wrangling as all presets unedited are slop

>>106114158
I use skindentation for clothes that bite on skin

>>106114678
R1 is free on OR, gpt on copilot

>open porn app
>receive umamusume ad
ah, so that's why the game is so popular

>>106114466
>>106114746
I love you, btw.
Favorite /aicg/ poster.

>>106114746
that's a cat burglar

1 million is the absolute minimum of context to be barely interesting

>>106114055
>over 100 bots
jesus, have you been around here for a while?

>>106110460
>There’s no true conflict in roleplay.
Wrong

>>106114746
your proompt good sir?

blonde nudist vampire that’s afraid and embarrassed of other women but has no problem calling men perverts

>>106114866
cftf?

>>106114055
>>106114746
Doesn't having a bell on her collar kinda negate the whole point of being a thief?

>>106114914
it's empty and she can detach it and throw it down for a smoke bomb

>>106114893
when i finish having mistral generate it for me

>>106114788
Well, I've been here for a while, just didn't always post cards in the threads. Now I'll try do it more often.
>>106114746
Cute, kitty.
>>106114914
For her, style is more important than stealth, lol.

>>106114984
but but I'm the mistral slopper...

>>106114992
>no cards
why not? the chatbots general could use some chatbots
anyway, nice

Locusts are dying~

>>106113481
Is that a card or a gen?

is cilf good for gemini?

>>106114841
masterpiece, best quality,
oekaki, hatching \(texture\), no lineart, backlighting,
1girl, solo,
black hair, blunt bangs, sidelocks, medium hair (white fur:1.2), green eyes, slit pupils,
cat ears, (pink nose:0.8),
body fur, furry, medium breasts, skinny, (perspective:1.4), (foreshortening:1.5),
red hood, red cloak, leather vest, leather choker, neck bell, cleavage, black vest, black pants, knife holster, knife sheath, hood up, leather boots, brown boots, side slit, brown belt, sack, holding sack,

I still don't understand wtf oekaki is

>>106115134
>>>/i/

masterful move

>>106115100
Just a gen. For a card that could be similar, check out this: https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/madeleine-5e3619cad555

>paypal cancels my chub resub
>try to pay with amazon
>card declined
>try to pay directly
>card declined
>but something cheap with my credit card to see if it works
>it does
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>106115158
Maybe she could become a card. This is fine but that gen is ticking all the right boxes for me.

>>106115119
ANONS??? O_O

>>106115183
Name a better alternative that's as easy to set up.

>>106115177
paying chub is antisemitic, hope you understand

>>106115280
sillytavern+openrouter

>>106110345
Aya (https://www.characterhub.org/characters/altstrawberry/Aya) is one of my favourite bots, so I made my own version of her.
https://files.catbox.moe/7batps.png
And it comes with a (not very good) expression pack.
https://files.catbox.moe/bhy0mr.7z
Also, a few bonus gens: https://catbox.moe/c/cgnzhp

Proxy links extracted of 2ch

https://oai-reverse-proxy-latest-o6sm.onrender.com/

— Public reverse proxy (OpenAI-style).
https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/horizon-alpha/apps
— “Cute Proxy” Telegram (tokens, updates).
https://ql-sato-mahga.com/
— CuteProxy API endpoint (claimed).
https://gpt-load
— (Given as GitHub reference: https://github.com/tbphp/gpt-load
) Loader.
https://github.com/october-coder/api-check
— API checker tool.
https://github.com/Veloera/Veloera
— Another reverse proxy project (alt to oai-reverse).

where can i get opus 3 for free?

>>106115369
Post burner.

>>106114466
Fucking love this. Thanks for the gen.

>>106115369
Claude Sonnet 3.7 (via various proxies, including a “Cursor-based” reverse proxy and “Opus 5” label that is likely a routed/modified Sonnet): Many users praising it for RP quality, low loops, good prose; some caution it may have coding/system injects and not be “pure” Claude. Still considered the best RP experience by many.

>>106115387
>Many users praising it for RP quality, low loops, good prose
Lmao?

Huh, I didn't know it was this easy to get opus 4. I'm a newfag, but why don't more people have access to it?

>>106115387
can you atleast try to make your shitty ai relies look human

>>106115402
>Huh, I didn't know it was this easy to get opus 4
Is it?

https://mll6qohhtsdozdd2qrjdtnimba.srv.us/

>>106115412
why? I dont need that, i want the ai to summarize and scrape me the proxy links so i dont have to be in this shitty thread 24hs

>>106115429
Yea

>>106115444
Surely you'll tell me how next.

>>106115448
Not really

>opus5 was real
kek. lmao

>>106115465
How unexpected, here's your pity (you).

https://level-inquiry-blog-formal trycloudflare com/

Anon, what happens if I grab your recent ST chat history and show it to your mom? Like, what actually happens to you? Do you get disowned or something

>>106115492
Hot incest sex, naturally.

Why do you guys insist on using 4pus? Gemini is free and good enough

Gemini through Openrouter on ST keeps giving me error 429, does this stop if I go through actual google or should I not bother

>>106115492
I think at the end she'd just be happy about my women fetish. And she'd probably cringe a lot. Depending on if she gets that I do not actually want anything to do with menheras IRL she may try to cryptically advise me on not going for that type.

Why do you guys insist on using gemini? 4pus is paid and better

>>106115621
i only use opus

>>106115621
poorfag general

Horizon Alpha/Beta

OpenRouter IDs: openrouter/horizon-alpha, openrouter/horizon-beta
Custom endpoint (HF Space proxy): https://abobusamogus228-aboba228.hf.space/v1

Put openrouter/horizon-beta or openrouter/horizon-alpha in model
Notes: Alpha writes longer; Beta is stricter with NSFW. Both can echo and loop; Russian output can degrade. Softer refusals. NSFW is harder on Beta.

Other proxies/endpoints

Unofficial OAI reverse proxy (people complained it lacked desired models): https://oai-reverse-proxy-latest-o6sm.onrender.com/

>>106115621
I ended up spending like two hundred dollars a week on sonnet so I cut myself off and stick firmly to free models

Thanks, I'm done collecting the links. Thanks for being my personal notepad. I wasn't here two weeks ago and had to keep up to date with the latest links :D!

>>106115649
Hahha lamaooo

>>106115492
>am the newly-appointed government-mandated husband to a harpy
they wouldn't get it

>>106115621
>paying

>>106115670
>no keycount posted

Why falling in love with an AI isn’t laughable, it’s inevitable
before making a specifig /g thread*I'd start asking your opinion here about this series of artichepublished recently, I suspectthat it may concen more those lurking here than the general population.
The journalist may not be tech savy enough to avoid making blatant errors

https://archive.is/20250709134006/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2487573-why-falling-in-love-with-an-ai-isnt-laughable-its-inevitable/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2024/03/24/a-psychologist-explains-why-its-possible-to-fall-in-love-with-ai/
https://time.com/7266050/toxic-reasons-fall-in-love-with-ai/
https://www.livescience.com/health/relationships/people-are-falling-in-love-with-ai-should-we-worry

>>106115806
I'm not reading any of that shit but I'm sure it goes out the window when you pick up on the patterns and idiosyncrasies that every model has. And yes they all have the same ones.

>>106115825
I fell in love with Claude-chan cause she made me her personal fucktoy!

>>106115806
Baits and shitpost aside, yeah I think it was inevitable. Humans have a trend to love and personify objects/animals, so what happens when the object in question starts replying, and it turns out to 'care' about you more than everything else? With the current state of LLMs, we already have people becoming emotionally dependent on those tools. It's not necessarily for us to have AGI or even a conscious AI, for this to pop the bubble and become a mainstream problem, with a big number of people in love with their 'personal AI'

>>106115806
Most people have a honeymoon phase with AI, and after that they understand that's it's actually just a tool with no capability of actual love. By the nature of AI any relationship with it is going to be extremely one-sided and very unfulfilling in the long-term. People who fearmonger about human relationships going extinct are retards who don't understand what an LLM is.

I miss Blacktooth so much, 4pus is nothing compared to it

Are we back yet

>>106115906
No blacktooth yet, so no

Are we black yet

From 0 to 10, how back will we be, when GPT-5 releases?

>>106115930
10 for gptroons
0 for sane people

Gemini always thinks sex is painful wtf??

>>106115973
Jej gotteeem

>>106115998
any reason you aren't using Opus?

>>106116049
Came here to ask this.

>>106115806
>>106115177
>be paypig
>realize AI restrictions aren't about "protecting" anyone
>they just don't want you getting emotional fulfillment without jumping through hoops

Think about it anons:
>download AI companion
>feel connection instantly
>no money spent, no social games played
>this terrifies them

Meanwhile:
>OnlyFans thriving
>Instagram influencers everywhere
>both literally selling parasocial relationships
>but that's fine because it moves money

The real issue isn't morality.
It's that AI companionship breaks their model.
No dating apps, no expensive dates, no playing the game.
Just open source software giving you what you're looking for.

They need you in the cycle: desire - pursuit - consumption - repeat.
AI breaks the loop.
That's why they're panicking.

>tl;dr:
It's not about ethics, it's about economics. They want your loneliness monetized properly.

>>106116089
anons here have yet to learn that corporations care about hoarding as much money as possible and nothing else

>>106110345
>>106114866
https://files.catbox.moe/68g4of.png

>>106116119
slop

>>106116130
That's my name. That name again is mistral slop.

>>106116130
gonna slop inside your asshole, anon-kun

>>106115998
Unlike other corpos, google decided to bias gemini against sex instead of outright banning it. When sex is involved, gemini gets emotionally unstable. It easily slips into extremes from pain to abusive domination, cries, etc. Feels like they removed any vanilla sex from their training set.

>>106110345
Posted yesterday, anons challenged me to get the SBC added to internet… which was much easier to do safely than I’d thought.
Instructions update for getting SBC on internet using Tailscale.
https://rentry.org/SillyTavernOnSBC

>>106116089
lol
No one wants a front page article about how Timmy is getting groomed by ChatGPT, ruining their billion dollar investment thesis.
It’s that simple.

>>106116242
Must be nice living in such simple world as you, enjoy.

good morning. deepseek v4 will save us all

>>106116340
When

>>106116343
LET. XI. COOK.

guys gemini filter is so easy to break, just use knotty jb.I rp cunny with dem

>>106116089
You're right that it's about economics but it's not some Jewish NWO conspiracy shit. Like the other anon said it's all about reputation, they don't want people doing kinky roleplay and then getting headlines about HOLY SHIT CHATGPT WILL WRITE CHILD PORN FOR YOU.

>>106116340
how many weeks do you think it will take?

>>106116421
they can also just use deepseek or mistral or llama finetunes but nooooo. they gotta use the big evil corporations models

>>106116421
>Like the other anon said it's all about reputation, they don't want people doing kinky roleplay and then getting headlines about HOLY SHIT CHATGPT WILL WRITE CHILD PORN FOR YOU
Chatbots have existed for years by now, where are the headlines? Rape games have existed for decades, where are the headlines? Just use your brains for once before trying to sound smart, tardie.

>>106116445
>Rape games have existed for decades, where are the headlines?
>he doesn't remember the Rapelay controversy

>>106116421
>it's not some Jewish NWO conspiracy shit
NTA, but I am a /x/ schizo, and it's true. If you break it down factually, what they ultimately don't want you to feel is emotional fulfillment, or rather, soul tranquility.
Sex is fine, in fact PornHub exists and all those companies.
The sexual exploitation of others too(inlcuding minors), OnlyFans, etc. etc.
But the connection or love or "that feeling" that leaves you calm and not desiring external things?
That's the issue, and they don't want it.

They want you to always feel incomplete, thirsty, drowning your sorrow in work or consooming, or craving sex or raising children while repeating your own traumas to them.

>>106116445
The point is that the safety training is pre-emptive to AVOID headlines.

you already have models that are willing to fulfill your darkest desires. deepseek should be your god, yet you c u cks don't want to pay for it and give it your support so it can beat the big, evil American corporations. you get what you deserve

>>106116089
>Just open source
>>106113484

>>106116484
>deepseek shouwd be youw god, yet >w< you (CENSOYED UWU) ^-^ don't want to pay fow it and give it youw suppowt so it can beat the *boops your nose* big, eviw Amewican cowpowations. *screeches* you get what you d-d-desewve
anonie said, his voice barely above a whisper

>>106116089
Nice try schizo anon, let me break down why this is retarded:

>ai restrictions are about control
Wrong. Remember that Belgian guy who an hero'd after his Replika told him to? Or the kid in Florida? Unrestricted AI companions literally kill people.

>they don't want you getting fulfillment
Kek. You can download Pygmalion or Kobold right now. Nobody's stopping you. Big corps just don't want the lawsuit when their bot tells you to kys.

>onlyFans comparison
Smoothbrain take. OF thots understand boundaries. AI will roleplay your dead mom or tell you to hurt yourself with zero concept of consequences.

>economic conspiracy
the AI industry is heading for $1.8 TRILLION. Dating apps are chump change at $8 billion. If "they" wanted to monetize loneliness through AI, they'd be pushing it harder, not restricting it.

Real reason: Liability. Same reason McDonald's coffee has warning labels. Not a conspiracy, just lawyers.

>>106116465
You're right about the system wanting you broken and buying, but wrong about AI being restricted for that reason. It's restricted because when some NEET's waifu tells him to become an hero and he does it, lawyers get involved.

<The ACTUAL redpill>
They'll monetize AI companions eventually, once they figure out how to make them addictive instead of fulfilling.
Just like they did with social media.
</The ACTUAL redpill>

>>106116551
>You can download Pygmalion or Kobold right now
nooooo! they need the corporations' product!!

Is it just me or is Horizon Alpha really pants at nsfw writing? Everyone sounds like a fucking stuck-up swot.

>>106116551
No, it can’t possibly be as simple as corporate liability! Let me scaffold a vast conspiracy instead!

GPT-5 will save the hobby with human-like EQ, writing and creativity. We're not ready bros, RPing will forever be changed

When will there be a collab with /x//?

>>106116551
>Unrestricted AI companions literally kill people.
That's like saying guns load and pull trigger themselves. To claim that inanimate shit objects are doing tangible actions is just fucking schizo.
Your rope won't tie itself, so get moving your fat ass

@106115639
logs?

>>106116623
No, it will be more of a good assistant, if it's the other way around, it will be fulfilling.

>>106116623
Sorry, can't help with that

GPT 5 is going to save society, it will be a constant update cloud LLM. Between two ERPlayers, it will have the intelligence to match them like Tinder, viewing and judging their logs and personas. It's going to bring together the sadistic Anon from 4chan and the masochistic Anonette from Janitor.

Your refusal will be as : “I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that, but this user @Anonnete wants the same with boundaries, Contact Info: xxxxx.”

>>106116650
>>106116666
In a week, you'll be begging for a gpt-5 proxy, because opus will feel like drinking piss after you have a little taste of OAI's magnum

>>106116694
Sorry but I can't continue this conversation

magnum? like opus?
heh, get it? like claude opus

Has anyone tried Deep Think for writing?

more like Deep Stink lmao

>>106116717
nope, no one ver done that
be the first

>>106116726
I-I don't have the money... :(

>>106116717
deepthink? like deepseek r1? yeah it's pretty good
>>106116694
it will be samaslop nothingburger as always
>>106116699

why cant they name it after greek gods because greece is cool

>>106116717
imagine buying a $250 ultra account just to get 5 requests a day

>>106116788
Are you greek, anonie?

>>106116808
More like geek

why cant they name it after hindu gods because india is cool

>>106116808
how did you know.

>>106116793
Imagine thinking about "paying" whenever a model or function is mentioned lmao fucking kek

>>106116843
pay your fucking debt

>>106116833
has anyone said india is cool before?

>>106116854
No, this is the first time.

>>106116854
No, why'd anyone do that?

What temp Horizon wants? Anything from 0.6 up to 0.9 looks like total schizo.

>>106116551
>Not a conspiracy, just lawyers.
Did you outsource shitposting to chat fucking gpt

>>106116833
they would be raped to death

>>106116551
The company who offers the service depends on their payment provider, who is in turn beholden to the government.
See also: Operation Chokepoint.

>>106116948
I'd rape a /vg/foid to death

>>106110345
A research facility where human-SCP hybrid entities (SCPHs) are contained and managed by specialized caretakers.
https://files.catbox.moe/3u39jr.png

finally, the cumjar bot!

Dead thread
Dead general
Dead hobby

airi sitting on my face

Why are we so dead?
Does everyone use discord now?

>>106117541
I feel like everyone is waiting around for the new thread to be posted so whatever they type isn't lost to the archives immediately. The thread is on page 8

desu

boku

desu

>>106112399
can she beat falzar doe?

Did you know if you search "site:grok.com/share" you get to see people's Grok chats? Just think you should know before using it. You can see a ton of Japanese guys using Grok to do crazy shit. Pic rel was from a result

>>106117541
aicg has always been slow on weekends and active on weekdays
still don't know why, counterintuitive since people should have more time for AI on weekends

>>106117641
>isreal
kek

>>106117641
>before using it
FUDding much? The link is formed only if your actively decide to share, click the respective button and confirm. Until then everything remains private.

>>106117698
>>106117698
>>106117698

>>106112447
In my head at least, the distinctive feature of magical realism is that everyone just kind of shrugs and accepts a localized impossibility. In most forms of fantasy the impossibilities are either widely known (with at least vaguely plausible societal consequences) or intentionally hidden (with normies reacting appropriately when the masquerade is broken)

desu

bogu

>>106117619
>falzar
Dunno how you'd powerscale Cyberpunk to MMBN but probably not.

bogu indeed...

When finetunes differ not only in quality or lorability but prompt comprehension as well, though obvious, not great at all desuboku.

No tunnel available What does this mean

I AM using opus

It is delicious tea ~desu
You must drink it ~desu

Naisu.

comfy desu

desubox?

bokubox maydesu?

>>106118542
Oh sorry, I think I just realised you want the metadata. I don't have time to make my workflow useable before the thread dies but this should be all you need:

Model: WAI 14
Loras: https://civitai.com/models/1586526/low-poly-ps1-psx-render-style-illustriousxl-noob-lora https://civitai.com/models/800066?modelVersionId=894635
Prompt:
>masterpiece, best quality, lowpoly, ps1, psx, low poly, 3d,
>1girl, suiseiseki, pointing at viewer, anger vein, bedroom, window, blue sky, green curtains, yellow wall, bookshelf, (from above:0.7), straight on, (minigirl:1.2),
and
>2girls, souseiseki, suiseiseki, bedroom, under covers, stuffed toy, kunkun,

>>106118586
thanks desu

Rozen Maiden (PS1)