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Anonymous No.106110387 [Report] >>106110598 >>106111639 >>106112017 >>106112125 >>106112156 >>106112476 >>106113509 >>106113926 >>106116511 >>106118828 >>106119090 >>106119247 >>106120827
>Vibejeets are fucking screenshotting twitch chat and feeding it into GPT
top kek, i dont think you could get more retarded
Anonymous No.106110598 [Report] >>106110607 >>106110619 >>106110635 >>106111939 >>106112354 >>106113940 >>106118988 >>106120426
>>106110387 (OP)
>screenshotting and OCRing (using memeGPT no less) a data source which is easily accessible as raw text
Am I missing something or are they actually that dumb?
Anonymous No.106110607 [Report] >>106111988 >>106113940
>>106110598
/vt/ said this retard basically ran his last company into bankruptcy so i'm thinking yes they're truly that dumb
Anonymous No.106110619 [Report] >>106111939 >>106112506
>>106110598
They're actually that dumb. They already have the data in text format and then they save it as an image and use OCR for absolutely no reason. This is the state of Python "programmers."

Also their "methodology" for deciding if someone is a bot is asking ChatGPT.
Anonymous No.106110635 [Report] >>106110655
>>106110598
Yeah if you already can capture the twitch chat element, just read the raw text. Besides, Tesseract is outdated af and would make many errors
Anonymous No.106110655 [Report] >>106112290
>>106110635
Twitch chat is just IRC. They don't need Selenium or any of this shit.
Anonymous No.106110686 [Report] >>106111752
I'm 99% sure jeets are responsible for all the worthless data inputs spoiling their training data but they can't ban them from using them because that'd be racist
Anonymous No.106111639 [Report] >>106113458
>>106110387 (OP)
Lel I remember this guy from Steven "Zestiny" Bonnell's streams way back in the day. Yeah seems about right.
Anonymous No.106111752 [Report] >>106111964
>>106110686
Devin Nash doesn't sound like an indian name to me
Anonymous No.106111939 [Report] >>106111965 >>106112401 >>106116433 >>106116522 >>106119031
>>106110598
>>106110619
I assume there must be a method to their madness. Probably more to the story, like they can't see the actual twitch chat data for whatever reason, only the video stream
Anonymous No.106111964 [Report]
>>106111752
Sounds like the name of someone that underpaids his developers and only hire jeets.
Anonymous No.106111965 [Report]
>>106111939
no, there's no reason to screenshot.
Anonymous No.106111988 [Report] >>106117783
>>106110607
Thread? I haven't paid attention to vtubers in like 8 months and have no idea what's going on.
Anonymous No.106112017 [Report]
>>106110387 (OP)
sars we are good coders sars give h1b!
Anonymous No.106112125 [Report]
>>106110387 (OP)
This approach is utter insanity.
Anonymous No.106112156 [Report]
>>106110387 (OP)
IDK shit but I know this is retarded
Anonymous No.106112290 [Report] >>106119137
>>106110655
Checked. This.

Holy shit, script kiddies could do irc bots with no vibe help twenty years ago. What the fuck happened?
Anonymous No.106112354 [Report]
>>106110598
I've seen this level of idiocy at multinationals mate
Anonymous No.106112401 [Report]
>>106111939
If they're running selenium they can just use the API directly. In fact they could just query the chat DOM element instead of screenshoting.

Holy fuck that's so retarded.
Anonymous No.106112476 [Report] >>106112516 >>106116474
>>106110387 (OP)
>we need 50 million more data centers to capture images of text and then convert those images back into text
Our planet is cooked.
Anonymous No.106112506 [Report]
>>106110619
>This is the state of Python "programmers."

Don't put this retardation on us please.
Anonymous No.106112516 [Report]
>>106112476
It all makes sense now.
Anonymous No.106113458 [Report] >>106119564
>>106111639
Wait really? I used to watch destiny back in the day (when he was le based) who was this guy?
Anonymous No.106113509 [Report] >>106113752 >>106113940 >>106115277 >>106116543 >>106117864 >>106119221 >>106119247 >>106120087
>>106110387 (OP)
Anonymous No.106113752 [Report]
>>106113509
>You can't connect to twitch chat and scrape text easily for 15,000 streams
Alright, that number isn't straightforward, sure. But it's certainly easier than screenshotting 15,000 streams worth of chat activity to run it through OCR. Dear fucking christ.
Anonymous No.106113926 [Report]
>>106110387 (OP)
>nuscrapers are braindead niggers who are filtered by parsing XHR requests.
its over.
Anonymous No.106113940 [Report] >>106114048
>>106110598
>>106110607
>>106113509
What is this about? Scraping 15k streams looks like state sponsored surveillance to me, JFC.
Anonymous No.106114048 [Report] >>106120717
>>106113940
Reporting on widespread viewbotting activity on Twitch
Which is something people already know, but this is an attempt to provide "concrete" data
We're just here to laugh at his method of doing it to be honest
Anonymous No.106115277 [Report]
>>106113509
> You can't connect to Twitch chat and scrape text easily for 15,000 streams

So instead this guy connects to Twitch chat and uses Selenium to take screenshots for 15,000 streams. He's actually this retarded.
Anonymous No.106116433 [Report]
>>106111939
Tech illiterates don't understand how computers work. It wouldn't occur to them that screenshots are less efficient than text.
Anonymous No.106116474 [Report]
>>106112476
and we need to make sure those data centers are built in the desert in order to ensure maximum inefficiency
Anonymous No.106116511 [Report]
>>106110387 (OP)
This is literally like teenager learning python tier shit. Why is this industry so fucking cringe.
Anonymous No.106116522 [Report]
>>106111939
You have to be able to see the data, otherwise your browser couldn't display it. If you can see it, the data is there. Obviously excluding anything pre-rendered.
Anonymous No.106116543 [Report]
>>106113509
>we are wasting trillions of dollars on data centers, billions gallons of water a year, and throwing away millions of high-end GPUs so retards can run OCR on twitch screenshots because they can't figure out how to scrape raw text
>these people have a high paying job and you don't
grim
Anonymous No.106117783 [Report]
>>106111988
>>>/vt/102995443
Anonymous No.106117864 [Report]
>>106113509
its literally just irc, thats it
Anonymous No.106118296 [Report]
>saar, this is a perfect project for AI!
smart way to get AI onto your CV.
Anonymous No.106118828 [Report]
>>106110387 (OP)
>python selenium to capture twitch chat
>taking screenshots to interpret it
i use 'irc.bot' and it does everything they want with like, 1/100th of the resource requirements
what a retard
Anonymous No.106118840 [Report] >>106118895
How do we feel about about the "AI eats white collar work" thing?

Given that everyone involved in ML is not learning welding, carpentry, etc - they sure don't act like the singularity is going to take everyone's jerbs.
Anonymous No.106118895 [Report] >>106118946
>>106118840
Well unemployed neets on /g/ are telling a guy making money from telling ai to do this that it was "wrong".
Kinda says it all.
>noooooooo you can't fire me you won't knoooow about the irc bot ton get the twitch chats!!!
>don't care. chatgpt fireup selenium and start taking screenshot
imagine i put this text on a crying basedjak and a yes chad nordic guy respectively
Anonymous No.106118946 [Report]
>>106118895
that dude just had his ad company fail. nice try.
Anonymous No.106118988 [Report]
>>106110598
>and we did some other work to identify what was a bot and what wasn't
so.... they used the language model for getting the text from a picture and then did the actual language work some other way???
Anonymous No.106119031 [Report] >>106119587
>>106111939
>only the video stream
twitch chat isn't a video.
Anonymous No.106119090 [Report] >>106119153
>>106110387 (OP)
This reads like someone desperately trying to sound smart, without realizing how stupid they actually come across in reality. Like some kind of midwit CEO of a failing startup.
Anonymous No.106119137 [Report]
>>106112290
People who talk about or use gpt are obviously not a programmer at all
Anonymous No.106119153 [Report]
>>106119090
They do anything for those loans
Anonymous No.106119221 [Report]
>>106113509
There is just no fucking way hes that retarded.
Anonymous No.106119247 [Report] >>106119287
>>106110387 (OP)
>>106113509
>You can't scrape text easily for 15,000 streams
I'm 99.999999% sure Devin said the exact opposite before. I swear there was a video or stream from over a year ago where he mentioned his company recorded chat logs for literally every channel that has 10+ viewers or some shit. It's either on a video on his channel or when he was on someone else's channel or when he was playing dnd but I swear he said it before.
Anonymous No.106119287 [Report]
>>106119247
Holy shit I just realized when he mentioned he was recording chat logs for every channel maybe he was already referring to this Selenium screenshotting setup. I know in the video I'm thinking of he didn't explicitly mention screenshots but I know for a fact he said they had logs of chat or were recording chat for every channel with more than x viewers.
Anonymous No.106119564 [Report]
>>106113458
This was post SC2. Just some business associate/friend or whatever back then. He would appear with that Dan Saltman tinychat guy .
Anonymous No.106119587 [Report] >>106119861
>>106119031
It is if the streamer overlays it, retard
Anonymous No.106119861 [Report]
>>106119587
twitch chat is IRC, retard
Anonymous No.106120087 [Report] >>106120835 >>106120874
>>106113509
>has money for endless OCR
>doesn't have money for a few residential proxies to scrape a bunch of streams from
ok
Anonymous No.106120279 [Report] >>106120782
I'm not some genius programmer or anything, but can't you just save them as a string and put them into a .txt file pretty easily with Selenium?
Anonymous No.106120426 [Report] >>106120782
>>106110598
It's the most general method. Anything else would frequently need maintenance because of site changes or browser changes.
As long as the OS and the browser manage to update themselves and you upgrade the hardware every few years, this method will keep working basically forever.
It's why agentic GUI automation that receives video and outputs keybarod/mouse commands will eventually win over anything else until they implement trusted computing with biometric signals that require that a human be actually present and paying attention to the screen, then we'll go back to paying indians to do data entry.
As a NEET with a 10 year old crusty twinkpad, sure, it makes more sense to do an html automation. When you're a big company with thousands of automations across all your offices and a dedicated team being paid $100/hour to develop them and keep them working, you would rather spend hundreds of dollars just to do that one stupid job if it means nor or minimal dev hours.
t. somebody who works at GUI automation and who's job is to nanny Selenium scripts 8 hours a day
Anonymous No.106120717 [Report]
>>106114048
>Reporting on widespread viewbotting activity on Twitch
With the added bonus that they could train the most annoying and retarded LLM you've ever seen with the data
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Anonymous No.106120782 [Report] >>106120804
>>106120279
Twitch chat can be connected to with literally any IRC client because it’s an IRC chat. Use that information how you will
>>106120426
You are the blackest gorilla nigger in the jungle, see above for why
Anonymous No.106120804 [Report]
>>106120782
I didn't even think of that, that's how you add the chat plugins to OBS.
Does that mean the same vulnerabilities that existed in old IRC chatrooms are still present?
Anonymous No.106120827 [Report] >>106120975
>>106110387 (OP)
Is there seriously not some json api for chat
Anonymous No.106120835 [Report]
>>106120087
He would still need multiple connections/proxies for the retarded OCR method. In both cases he still needs to be connected to the chat...
Anonymous No.106120874 [Report]
>>106120087
Even a VPN + those sketchy free proxy lists works for twitch viewbots ime, wouldn't it work for that too?
Anonymous No.106120975 [Report] >>106121214
>>106120827
idk how it works now but it used to quite literally just be an irc connection
Anonymous No.106121214 [Report]
>>106120975
still is