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Previous thread: >>106093940

I am very new to Linux, currently using Ubuntu 25.04
Will the built in Software Updater get me all the security updates or do I need to do the sudo apt update thing? What's the difference?

>>106113268
>What's the difference?
Functionally there's no difference. The GUI will just also automatically apply updates for your flatpak and snap packages, while the terminal requires you to manually do "flatpak update" and "snap update" (or whatever) in addition to "apt update && apt upgrade".
In almost all instances you should just use the GUI.

>>106113378
Cool, I was hoping that was the case.
Thanks Anon.

>mfw sudp

>>106113627
>No, it doesn't. That checkbox is for choosing things to install.
Yeah and if you click the box on a package that is green (already installed) then it will uninstall when you click the apply box. Just try it lol or is this some bizarre gimmick where you literally believe a package manager cant uninstall packages

How do GPU driver updates work in Linux? On Windows you have the NVIDIA app that notifies you of new drivers and asks if you want to download them but what about Linux? Will a simple dnf upgrade also update the GPU drivers or do you have to update it manually and what is the update frequency like?

>>106113885
>Will a simple dnf upgrade also update the GPU drivers
This is the case, its centralized. The package manager will connect to the associated repositories and handle things by itself unless you download a file through your browser and install it manually.
Downloading straight from nvidia is known to cause issues so stick to your distro's repositories unless you have a good reason to switch

For me it's solarized dark.

>>106113885
You never have to run dnf upgrade if you have a GUI package manager. Discover automatically checks for updates and gives you a notification in the system tray whenever they're available.

Nobarafags, explain this.

>>106113885
Your OS updates will update the nVidia drivers too, as long as you're using a non-shit distro.

I am looking at the settings on my Ubuntu 25.04 installation and the security section warns me that Secure Boot is not active. After doing some reading, I found out that in order for my computer to even accept the drive where Ubuntu is installed as an acceptable booting option, I had to enable Secure Boot BEFORE installing Ubuntu so that the installer would take care of the whole thing.
Does this warrant a reinstall?
Malware potentially settling into the hardware itself sounds like a big deal...

>>106114109
>Does this warrant a reinstall?
No, you'll be fine. Secure boot is mostly a meme.
And I'm pretty sure you can enroll MOK after you install your distro. It's always done post-install anyways. So there shouldn't be a need to re-install.

>>106114078
Using your distributions packages is an anti-pattern. You should always only use Flatpaks.

>>106114128
>Using your distributions packages is an anti-pattern. You should always only use Flatpaks.
Why would you even suggest this. Sometimes your distro's packages make sense. Sometimes flatpaks make sense.

>>106114189
>Sometimes your distro's packages make sense
Surely it does, but mainly on servers (or very custom installs) and not desktops. Getting your packages from a distribution instead of getting them from the original source is equivalent to the times when your telecom/ISP was in charge of updating your Android system. It makes little sense in almost any scenario.
And while Flatpaks are in a lot of cases unofficial too, they're at least the one universal standard most distributions and users are rapidly adopting. No reason to resist them just like there was never a reason to resist systemd.

Why is this thread stopped being friendly? and if someone ask question they get told to go use AI slop?

>>106114256
The "/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread" on 4chan’s /g/ (Technology) board is intended as a welcoming space for users of all levels to discuss GNU/Linux, ask questions, and share experiences. The term "Friendly" is explicitly emphasized in the thread’s title and descriptions, encouraging civil discourse and support for beginners. However, 4chan’s anonymous and unfiltered culture often influences the tone, leading to a mix of helpfulness, technical expertise, and occasional hostility.

The /fglt/ thread is "friendly" relative to 4chan’s typically chaotic environment, offering a space where beginners can get help, but it’s not consistently warm or welcoming. Experienced users provide valuable insights, but snark, gatekeeping, and off-topic rants can undermine the intended tone. Without detailed conversation data from recent years, it’s hard to confirm if friendliness has improved or worsened, but the thread’s structure and 4chan’s culture suggest it’s remained a mixed experience since 2016. For a truly friendly Linux community, users might find better support in moderated spaces like Reddit’s r/linux or dedicated forums.

If you’d like, I can search for more recent /fglt/ threads or analyze specific posts to dig deeper into the tone!

>>106114256
I have asked several very ignorant questions these past few days and literally all of the replies were friendly...

>>106114247
>mainly on servers
So if I want to install clang I should get it from Flathub? Wait, I can't. I could install it from my distro (which is fine in many cases) or if I want a more recent version I could get it from Homebrew.

As for unofficial Flatpaks, I avoid them. But I do use Flatpaks that are official.

>>106114301
>>106114256
It usually becomes "unfriendly" when opinionated people start bickering, but it doesn't affect people asking genuine questions.
Case in point, last thread with it's "native vs appimage vs flatpak" and "which distro is actually easy to use". It seems like every thread has some kind of a micro-war in it, but it's overall irrelevant and at least keeps the thread bumped if anything.

>>106114128
What's an anti-pattern?
t. using a system where 100% of the software comes from distro repos
>>106114301
Same. Can't see what's wrong with an ignorant question.
>>106113885
Nvidia drivers are their own package which inserts an external kernel module. Normally all your drivers are in the kernel package itself, there's very few exceptions to this.

>>106114339
>"native vs appimage vs flatpak"
Depends on the package, how recent you need it to be, whether the Flatpak is official, and whether the AppImage updates itself (I think some do and some don't)
>"which distro is actually easy to use"
Debian and Ubuntu

>>106114313
If you're a developer you understand that you're an advanced user and can figure out how to install dependencies you need.
In any case, installing clang onto your distro natively is also obsolete now that we can containerize dev work into distrobox.

>>106114339
>>106114356
Reminder that AppImage is just a compressed tree.

>>106114356
>whether the AppImage updates itself
Pretty sure Gear Lever can manage updates for almost all Appimages.

>Debian and Ubuntu
>easy to use
Assuming we're talking about these as a desktop OS for an average Joe, then definitely not.

Debian was replaced by Ubuntu by desktop users around 15 years ago because it was much easier to use. Heck, up until a couple of years ago even downloading a Debian iso was convoluted as fuck from what I remember.

And the same happened to Ubuntu in the past 5 years, it got less relevant than Mint outside of enterprise use.

Only a person with at least some Linux experience would find Ubuntu and Debian easy to use, at least compared to even easier alternatives. Sure, they're no Arch or Gentoo, but still.

>>106114362
I just think it's fine sometimes to install from your distro's repos. If I don't necessarily need the latest and greatest version of something then I think it's fine to get it from my distro.
>distrobox
I guess you can pull images from Docker Hub. I don't think containers are always necessary though.

>>106114301
>literally all of the replies were friendly...
There's some AI fags like>>106114292
that AI post and not actually answer anything, they're captcha human solver for AI at this point.
But in most week days you get them, on the week end you do get some meaningful discussion.
>>106114313
NTA but your point is valid.
I use flatpaks for applications that require GTK so I don't mess up my system.
Or if the dev endorse it like with bottles.

>>106114421
>Only a person with at least some Linux experience would find Ubuntu and Debian easy to use, at least compared to even easier alternatives.
Fair point, maybe Mint is easier if you have no Linux experience at all

>>106114456
>I just think it's fine sometimes to install from your distro's repos.
I mean sure, for some stuff it makes sense to use the distro's repo. But for anything user-facing/non-cli I'm always using a flatpak or at least appimage (if it's official). In the past 10 years I've been burned so many fucking times by distributions either fucking something up or not keeping the software I want updated. Never had the same issue with appimages and flatpaks.

>>106114487
>There's some AI fags like>>106114292 (You)
I hope you know I'm just fucking with him because he mentioned AI.

I've seen some anons paranoid as fuck thinking some of my posts are AI generated for no reason at all. In some cases just because I've numbered my bullet points to make the post easy to read.

My GameSaar G7 HE worked fine on windows, but on Arch it keeps connecting and disconnecting on its own. I know it's not a faulty cable because I've tried it on my phone and it works fine. Also the connect/disconnect keeps a steady rhythm, which to me at least sounds like a software problem. Any ideas on how to fix it?

>>106114587
>damage controlled
I know some anons/hiro/janitors/mods are using AI bots to keep the discussion and boost engagement after the last fiasco.
So if you're larping as AI expect to be treated as AI bot.

I installed Asahi Linux. Why does the Nautilus file manager look like it's straight from 2005?

>>106115142
Nautilus sucks, use Dolphin.

>>106115078
>damage controlled
It's not my problem if you're too autistic to realize when people are joking or if you got triggered by a meme post.

>>106115142
I assume some gtk dependencies or themes haven't been pulled correctly? Nautilus is a GNOME app. Looks like Asahi is using KDE Plasma.
Go into "Application Style" in your system settings and in the upper right corner there should be a button. Click on it, then you should see "Configure GNOME/Gtk themes". Fuck around in there by selecting a theme or installing one if there aren't any installed for you. It should fix your issue.

>All guides on SSD improvements and even the Arch wiki indicate that Periodic TRIM >>> Continuous TRIM and that they shouldn't be used at the same time
>do fresh Ubuntu install on SSD
>check default settings
>systemctl says fstrim.timer is enabled
>/etc/fstab says partitions are mounted with "discard"
>mfw
Why is this a thing when every guide advises against it? And should I remove the "discard" options from /etc/fstab to only leave the periodic TRIM service on?

>>106114109
This sounds like some idiot gave you advice.
Drivers don't require secure boot, in some cases you might even have disable secure boot to load the driver. (Driver isn't signed, there is way to add keys to UEFI, but it will just be hassle next time you upgrade the driver).

>Malware potentially settling into the hardware itself sounds like a big deal...
Secure boot doesn't protect the hardware at all, it's just messes with boot loading and is considered meme.

>>106114247
>Surely it does, but mainly on servers (or very custom installs) and not desktops
> Flatpaks are in a lot of cases unofficial too, they're at least the one universal standard most distributions and users are rapidly adopting
What nonsense is this, repositories target common usage and you should not install random flatpaks.
The standard is the flatpak standard not some "universal distro" crap.

>telecom/ISP was in charge of updating your Android system
What country was that?

>>106115199
>It's not my problem if you're too autistic to realize when people are joking or if you got triggered by a meme post.

>>106115217
For example Windows doesn't use continuous TRIM either, it tries to TRIM SSDs once a week.

>>106115217
You shouldn't do what the arch wiki tell you.
those are outdated instructions.
SSD firmware do all of that, thanks windows users.

>>106115226
>What country was that?
All of them, anon. Until around 2018, carrier provided Android system updates were the standard everywhere. That is, unless you bought your phone "factory unlocked" instead of buying it from a carrier.

>repositories target common usage
"Common usage" maybe by developer, sysadmin or tinkerer standards, not by the standards of actual, real desktop users. Even Linus fucking Torvalds said that distros should just stop packaging and maintaining optional 3rd party software and just deliver applications through a universal standard, ideally directly from the application developer. He said, and I agree, that this is one of the biggest issues desktop Linux is facing.
A very significant portion of Linux users and developers have opted for Flatpaks and Appimages because they're generally more convenient and stable. Not to mention they don't have additional issues (fake bugs) which are often caused by incompetent distro package maintainers.

>the flatpak standard not some "universal distro" crap.
That's literally what it is. The Flatpak runtime is literally a containerized Linux distribution.

>>106115241
>gets called out for being autistic
>proves the point

>>106115217
>A Btrfs file system is able to free unused blocks from an SSD drive supporting the TRIM command. Asynchronous discard support is available with mount option discard=async, and is enabled by default as of linux 6.2. Freed extents are not discarded immediately, but grouped together and trimmed later by a separate worker thread, improving commit latency.

>Asynchronous discard can safely be used alongside periodic trim

The first time I go fullscreen on haruna, the windows goes directly to my second monitor for some reason

I'm really missing Sumatra PDF on linux

>>106115604
Use Zathura

>>106115657
>Zathura
why? I use strilingPDF

>>106115685
It's the closest to a SumatraPDF experience on Linux besides MuPDF.

>>106115685
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Arch 100% installs Discover in its default configuration (with KDE). Discover is a KDE application, it's obviously not installed when KDE isn't used but that's a moot point.

>>106115723
Installing KDE through the full package is just bloat though. Better to install it via certain separate groups.

>>106115723
meant to quote this guy, forgot to replace arrows >>106113377

how fucked I'm going to be if I disable all mitigations?

>>106115751
Those mitigations are for certain theoretical attacks that haven't been seen in the real world yet or before. Some people just disable them to get better CPU cycles.

>>106115784
what about meltdown? I've read that a fine crafted browser js can exploit it and gain remote control

>>106115792
Has it happened in the real world yet?

>>106115751
I would keep them enabled. I know people say "those attacks haven't happened in the real world" but I would still rather be safe, even if I lose a little performance. The performance difference would be barely noticeable given how I use my PC (most tasks aren't very CPU intensive)

To the anon who shared that mpv ffmpeg stream script a few weeks ago: Is it possible to seek back in the video and make ffmpeg re-encode/re-stream those parts? At the moment it just exits after its finished streaming the whole file and does not really support seeking back on anything that wasnt already previously cached in mpv.

>>106115735
It's installed through the Plasma group which is the default way for installing plasma. Also used for archinstall. You can install plasma-desktop and that doesn't have it, but I'd hardly call the plasma group bloated. It's missing a huge amount of useful KDE software and feature support.

>>106115955
>plasma, kde-utilities, kde-system, kde-graphics, ffmpegthumbs
is IMO the cleanest set of KDE Arch packages you can install to get everything without the bloat.

>>106116080
When I installed the plasma group by itself a while ago, it asked during installation if I'd like to use VLC or MPV to generate thumbnails or something along those lines so I'm not sure fmpegthumbs does anything useful, because video thumbnails seem to be included. I think that's also part of the kde-graphics meta package.

bcachefs is getting kicked out of Linux, it's over. We're never getting a good Linux-native next generation file system

>>106116198
btrfs has already taken the next gen filesystem spot (and ext4 isn't going anywhere)

>>106116209
Yes, but it's not very good and I'm losing faith that it will be good someday. I'll still keep using Btrfs I guess. I wonder why isn't Microsoft making their own next gen FS for consumer usage

>>106116234
>why isn't Microsoft making their own next gen FS for consumer usage
Because there's no monetary incentive.

>>106115365
In the EU it was standard to buy phones unlocked. It changed a bit, particularly among youngsters with the buy on credit "discount scam".


>maybe by developer, sysadmin or tinkerer standards, not by the standards of actual, real desktop users
Yeah, maybe the difference between user groups have widened over the years..
>Linus fucking Torvalds
Is a rat, that will wiggle his filthy tail and squeak whatever his sponsors want.
You shouldn't put to much trust in his squeals

>>106116234
Because NTFS still just werks for them. And besides that they have ReFS which is their resilience-focused server filesystem.

>>106116234
NTFS caused problems for many years, with all the marketing on azure, cloud computing, cross compatibility etc.
They probably won't do it for the time being, (windows 10/11 is already causing a another market drop).

>>106115821
I mean yeah, but for some systems with reduced horsepower it makes the difference, like my laptop, a dual core kaby lake for ex

>>106116268
>In the EU it was standard to buy phones unlocked
It wasn't in the Android v3-v7 era of phones. At least not in most EU countries.
Examples:
- https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s5/firmware/
- https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s6/firmware/
- https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s7/firmware/
Sure, in Germany it was much more common for people to just buy a factory unlocked phone. However, there was still a very significant portion of people who bought phones through a carrier. Which would make your device's system updates carrier-controlled even if you later do a "network unlock".

>You shouldn't put to much trust in his squeals
I don't, but that is something I completely agree with.

>maybe the difference between user groups have widened over the years..
Not necessarily. It's just that the user group of people who are neither technical, hobbyists, or devs/sysadmins did not even exist on Linux until 2-3 years ago.

>>106113200 (OP)
KDE was a nightmare in those days, but that screenshot makes me so fucking nostalgic it hurts.

>>106114292
>t. Bot

>>106114499
What about Deepin and Elementary. They try to copy normie desktops

>>106116282
ReFS has thus far been an abject failure. At least btrfs can do things zfs can't, and it's reasonably reliable as long as you color inside the lines.

Is there any project like Heroic Games Launcher but for Steam? I want a 64bit Launcher. I only use the small mode Steam and it boils my piss with how it wastes RAM.

>>106117198
god i hate real life... where is my latex wearing mommy domme.

What happens if you compile the AMD OpenGL driver without LLVM support?

why do I have warp-svc service running on my arch install?

i used to use opensuse and generally liked it a lot but the smaller userbase meant it was harder to find packages and resources for doing things on it since im a linux newbie dumbass.

does anyone have any suggestions for distros similar to opensuse but with a larger userbase?

I'm trying to move to linux on the laptop I use for work, trying to adapt to using package managers.

On windows, I usually install python ~3.11 nowadays and will keep it at that version for a couple more years still. On manjaro I see that Python 3.13 is installed and I'm guessing it gets auto-updated, so when 3.14 will be stable it will be upgraded automatically: is that right?

So, should I just install another version and keep it from updating? or am I better off keeping the continuously-updating version?

>Use Alpine on my Raspberry Pi 1
>It loads everything onto a RAM drive
>Just a few packages away from exceeding the capacity
How do I setup an environment for creating custom builds of packages that shave off as many megabytes as possible?

>>106118239
Do you have an actual reason to use an outdated version?

>>106116481
A firmware supplicant is not the same as being in charge of updating android.
I'm aware of some of the countries in the list and the standard was buying unlocked.

However samsung galaxy is probably the most credit purchased brand after apple.
As far as i'm aware samsung still has it's separate firmware updater, with plays in with national & telecarrier agreements.
So you might indeed be able to find a list of people that bought locked for a discount.


> It's just that the user group of people who are neither technical, hobbyists, or devs/sysadmins did not even exist on Linux until 2-3 years ago.
Then the reason might that you are making recommendations to people that are not technical then.

Diddling don diddles little kids
Jews rape kids

>>106118265
mainly to avoid any library compatibility issue. 3.11 is not the latest version but is still supported and I wouldn't call it "outdated", 3.8 entered EOL but 3.9 is still supported as well

what fonts do you use in your system?

>>106118350
Segoe UI and literation mono

Windows10 immigrant here:

why does linux feel so centralized? Coming from windows I expected a "foss" system to be much more distrubuted, not the other way around.
I feel like i'm putting all my trust into a single specific distro and its package manager. I get that this approach is more reliable and efficient, but doesn't it kinda defeat the whole purpose?

>>106118302
Python venv might solve your troubles, there are some other options, but that's the most common.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html

I have a dual-boot Windows/Linux Mint desktop system and I have a ton of issues with Mint I just don't seem to have with my Ubuntu laptop. I have some files on the Mint system I'd like to preserve, but I'd like to just wipe out everything and install Ubuntu on the desktop. What's the best way to go about doing this?

>>106118460
If you don't want to use distro packages then get stuff from Flathub and/or Homebrew and/or the Snap store and/or AppImages

>>106118460
Because every distro is a separate OS with its own userland ABI. This is intentional because it makes replacing large parts of the OS with proprietary software cost prohibitive, but it also means individual distros are obliged to provide software built for their own libraries.

The Linux kernel ABI is forever and you can always build a flatpak or appimage off your current distro state and use that to run exactly the same program in perpetuity.

>>106118563
Did you make a separate home partition?
The you can do manual partitioning during the ubuntu install and keep all your files.
If not, then your option are mount the Windows partition and move the files or move the files to a usb, cloud whatever you use.

>>106118460
The existence of shared libraries means that you need a centralized way to handle them, this is different from windows where basically all the software bundles their own version of the library they want. Distros will apply their own patches to the packages if required.
You can still acquire software through other means, but there are no guarantees once you go that path
Besides, the last thing you want to do is individually check for news of all the software you own.

>>106118639
>Did you make a separate home partition?
I'm not sure, could you show me how I could check that?

>>106118460
Well, it is decentralised; you get to choose your distro, and consequently, your repositories.
>doesn't it kinda defeat the whole purpose
Well, it does kind of lock you into the distro's repos, but you also have the autonomous decision of choosing a distro based on which repos you find better-maintained; it's still competitive and pro-user. You can also add third party repositories like RPMFusion and Copr for Fedora, or the Chaotic AUR for Arch. Nevertheless, software developers often hate package maintainers and have praised things like Flatpaks in their stead; Flatpaks may be a centralised system, but they work the same way, the same time on every distro.

>>106118663

lsblk -o NAME,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL

If you prefer a friendly gui, download gparted from the package manager.

>>106118690
>Flatpaks may be a centralised system
You can add different remotes to get Flatpaks from. Most Flatpaks are from Flathub yes, but Dolphin (Gamecube/Wii emulator) has their own remote which they use to distribute a Flatpak. There is a different, unofficial Dolphin Flatpak on Flathub.

The official Dolphin Flatpak remote is: https://flatpak.dolphin-emu.org/releases

>>106118020
Dunno about similar to opensuse, but I also started with it and then switched to Gentoo. I don't regret that decision, I see no reason to ever try another distro

>snap store
>slightly outdated chromium
>mint
>slightly outdated chromuim
even debian has the latest version...

On windows I used to install programs with scoop/choco/winget, except for programs like steam, firefox, discord,... that had their own updater built in and would often be messed up when updated via package manager.

How do I do install and update packages on Linux? Build in package manager (apt, pacman etc.) or flatpak, AppImage etc.?

>>106118799
As a debian stable user, i run outdated ungoogled chromium.

>>106118820
package manager, ignore the rest

>>106118866
>Linux AppImage 64-bit 138.0.7204.183-1
it's actually up to date rn

>>106114555
>I don't do it so everyone who does is stupid

>>106115226
Glowies are heavy in these threads trying to control the narrative and keep people from using selinux, apparmor, and secure boot, mostly by heavily shilling arch

>>106118690
I'm aware that, in the grand scheme of things, linux users still have an option of whether or not to giveaway their trust, unlike windows where you don't even have that choice to begin with.
My question was more about why the linux community/ecosystem evolved to prefer a "third party dependent way of installation" rather than, say, a web-based one or like the one anon mentioned >>106118738 which feel like more fitting for linux.

>>106118658
I agree with the all the benefits of this approach, but couldn't the same be done without the need for a third-party? but yeah it kinda made sense why its needed now though

>>106118955
Hehe indeed brother.
Selinux, secure boot, tpm are a must, but only fedora, opensuse tumbleweed has it by default.

>>106118978
>couldn't the same be done without the need for a third-party?
sure, you can compile everything yourself if you want. Most people don't want this.

>>106118239
Use distrobox like any normal modern dev and just pin the package version of python in your distrobox distro.

>>106118460
>I feel like i'm putting all my trust into a single specific distro and its package manager.
I mean, not really. You should source your apps directly from the developer, which usually means you should use appimages or flatpaks instead of whatever your distro maintainers set up. Having distro repos is just a convenience thing.
But still, even if you source everything from your distro's repos, I don't see an issue here. You're clearly trusting them enough to be your actual OS. And the FOSS nature of everything makes things very transparent.

does anyone know of any programs on loonix that can emulate iOS

>>106113200 (OP)
Old kde is so soulfull... It there a way to get it on modern distros like Arch?

>>106118978
There are third party repositories (PPA for debian/ubuntu, plus others) and there are user submitted packages in separate repositories hosted by the distro itself like the other guy mentioned (copr, aur). None of these are controlled by anyone.
As for regular packages, generally speaking any user can step up and become a package maintainer, this also means that some devs might opt to simply have their software hosted in the official repo while in other cases some user will do it. The screening process probably varies depending on the distro, i havent looked into it.
Since software can be (relatively) freely added to the official repos there hasnt been a need to go for a different route. Those who do not wish to handle any of that either release binaries on github, create their own repo or submit to AUR/copr/something else i dont know about
Then there's flatpak/appimage/etc, but do be aware that often the devs themselves dont handle them and instead some user will offer an image, which then the dev might suggest to the other users but the dev itself might be completely uninvolved. Always read the fine print.

>>106118978
>My question was more about why the linux community/ecosystem evolved to prefer a "third party dependent way of installation" rather than, say, a web-based one
I'm installing "web-based" means something like downloading .msi installers from a website? The number one benefit of the Linux packaging approach is it avoids the dependency bloat of Windows; repo maintainers ensure that if two applications use the same libraries, then those libraries will only be installed once. On Windows it's typical for applications to pack all the necessary runtimes as .dll files in the application's own folder instead of reading from a common set of libraries shared between applications, which not only increases install sizes, but also increases RAM and CPU overhead when running multiple such applications at once.

>>106119389
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/

>>106119469
I'm assuming*

>>106118978
>My question was more about why the linux community/ecosystem evolved to prefer a "third party dependent way of installation" rather than, say, a web-based one or like the one anon mentioned >>106118738 (You) which feel like more fitting for linux.
That URL I mentioned - https://flatpak.dolphin-emu.org/releases - is for use with Flatpak. First you install Flatpak in your terminal. Then I think you would run this to add that URL as a Flatpak source named "dolphin-emu":

flatpak remote-add dolphin-emu https://flatpak.dolphin-emu.org/releases


Anyway, sometimes you can download Linux software from a web browser. Like Google Chrome can be downloaded as deb/rpm packages from google.com/chrome. But it's quite cool on Linux that I can just run something like `sudo apt install firefox` to install Firefox, instead of having to hunt down the Firefox installer on the web.

>>106119007
>Selinux
CIA
>secure boot
M$-signed keys and if you allow physical access to your pc you're screwed regardless
>tpm
Yet another under-the-OS backdoor

>>106119793
>Like Google Chrome can be downloaded as deb/rpm packages from google.com/chrome.
There's no need to download Google Chrome when you can use API key in Chromium

>>106119857
We are the future, you will use it and you will like it

>>106119857
>>Selinux
>CIA
Initially paid for by NSA. Long since handed off.
>>secure boot
>M$-signed keys
Only if you buy Windows hardware.
>>tpm
>Yet another under-the-OS backdoor
How is it a backdoor with no IO? What kind of retard actually thinks this?

Debian trixie is releasing august 8th. Should I set my unstable to track trixie and migrate to trixie (stable) now? I only migrated to unstable because I needed newer drivers.

>>106119980
>Only if you buy Windows hardware.
Unless you rip out the ms keys and use your own, secure boot is always bound to ms keys.

>>106119980
>>>Selinux
>>CIA
>Initially paid for by NSA. Long since handed off.
I meant NSA, thanks for correcting me. But it's the same as Signal (funded by CIA-front, RFA), I just won't trust anything related with a mile-long pole.
>Only if you buy Windows hardware.
Please: "Most x86 hardware comes with Microsoft certificates in firmware, allowing Secure Boot to recognize and trust Microsoft-signed binaries. The Linux community relies on this model for Secure Boot compatibility." https://documentation.ubuntu.com/security/docs/security-features/platform-protections/secure-boot/
It's extremely difficult for a layman to roll-in his own keys: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface/Secure_Boot#Using_your_own_keys
>>>tpm
>>Yet another under-the-OS backdoor
>How is it a backdoor with no IO? What kind of retard actually thinks this?
Hardware crypto is almost always weaker than software crypto plus it's an open secret alphabet agencies have been weakening elliptic keypairs to ease differential cryptanalysis.
TL;DR: avoid ready-made hardware solutions or closed-source software offered by big-tech corporations.

>>106120208
>>106120219
>secure boot is always bound to ms keys
Wrong. There's nothing about MS in the standard. You can buy a PC from system76 right now with no MS signed anything. Most OEMs don't do this because they don't want inventory that can't be Windows logo certified, but lots of other PCs can trivially have their MS keys removed by the user.

>>106120219
>But it's the same as Signal (funded by CIA-front, RFA), I just won't trust anything related with a mile-long pole.
Because you're code illiterate but have strong opinions on systems programming anyway. SELinux is retard simple on the back end. There's no room to surreptitiously insert a backdoor, and too many people look at it. If they're going to backdoor something it's gonna to be Intel/AMD provided device drivers or crypto.
>tpm
Amazing goalpost shift. I accept your concession.

>>106120430
The standard doesn't matter. In the end, you want to boot something. And anything out there signed for secure boot is signed with ms keys. You can roll your own, but then you have to sign your own shit.

>>106114078
i cant as I have lots of it. I just use Kate and it does everything I commonly do, and supports LSP for anything else.

>How is it a backdoor with no IO? What kind of retard actually thinks this?
Retards, if it had I/O how does it use keys an other features.
IBM, Microsoft opensourced it, hardware manufacturer do what they do.. but you can learn about it.

>>106120430
>There's nothing about MS in the standard.
Perhaps, but it's everywhere in production. Are you a retard or just pretend to be one?
>trivially
Don't pretend, be.
>SELinux is retard simple on the back end.
So is OpenSSH and it was still compromized. Fuck off shill.
>Amazing goalpost shift
Semantics don't change facts and your IP is corporate.

archbros is curl broken for you too?
downgraded just in case

>>106120749
@grok is curl broken?

>>106120812
i don't know

>>106120219
>Signal (funded by CIA-front, RFA), I just won't trust anything related with a mile-long pole.
I use Signal and I no qualms about it. What I would never use though is Telegram, which was developed by Russians, and which the Russian government may have access to:

https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat/

>>106120503
>And anything out there signed for secure boot is signed with ms keys
I just showed you this is factually wrong.

>openRGB finally supports my Lian-Li fans under linux
>no longer have to use a windows VM to change fan colors
I am free

>>106121074
>fan colors
why are zoomers so fucking gay?

>screen sharing with discord doesn't have audio
>screen sharing with vesktop doesn't have video
This shit can't be that hard to accomplish

Very new Linux user here (Mint, Cinnamon). I've been trying it out in live USB session. Generally it seems fine for what I want.

However, I've encountered great difficulty in trying to get the sound to work. I've tried almost everything I could find online (updating Nvidia drivers, using PulseAudio, I've checked Alsamixer). Sound doesn't play either from my monitor or headphones when I plug them into the 3.5 mm jack.

If it helps my GPU is a 4060, and I use a Displayport cable rather than HDMI.

Is it normal for sound not to work in a live session?

I don't want to install Mint (overwriting Windows on the SSD) and still have the same problem.

Is Bazzite a good option for a more general desktop experience or is it pretty much exclusive for gaming?

>>106121558
Unironically learn to use arch

>>106121558
nixOS is the answer.

>>106121558
I've heard that the immutable aspect of it is kinda shit to deal with, as long as you don't run random commands without understanding what they do with sudo you'll be fine on any distro

Bazzite shilling is for entertainment purposes only
Nobody actually uses Bazzite

>finally take the jump and install linux
>problem, after problem, after problem
>one more bullshit happening and I'm going back to windows
>ditch wayland and use X11
>everything just works
Why do people hate X11? Why do people insist on forcing everyone to use Wayland?

just me or is the captcha taking forever to load and post on firefox now?
>ff 139

>>106122132
Yeah, captchas/posting is a bit slow atm

help

any good fan controller?

just a basic curve or even a fix setting would do

>>106122272
FanControl

>>106122276
thanks

Define the phrase "tinker tranny".

>>106123011
A word that someone uses when they're too stupid to computer. Most likely an avid gamer

>>106123011
A phrase used by anons that let transsexuals live in their head rent free

Gnome file manager doesn't show thumbnails for AVIFs. Using Gentoo and have "avif" USE flag enabled globally.
What do?

>>106123846
stop using gnome and switch to plasma

>>106123891
Tried, 'recent files' didn't work and everything was buggy as hell.

>>106123952
Skill issue, works perfectly fine here

>>106123957
>stuff works, don't know why
>"skill"

>>106123970
>stuff doesn't work, don't know why
>skill

>>106124006
Well, yeah, I didn't say I had any skills.

Anyone else also mildly excited by how Debian 13 is coming out in a week?
>>106114346
>anti-pattern
Software patterns are common ways of organizing parts of a system in programming (google “software pattern gang of four”)
Anti-patterns are dumb things people commonly do
t. uses Debian but also Homebrew
>>106118350
I use the default GNOME font but MonoLisa in GNOME Terminal
>>106123846
Explain your use case to Emmanuele Bassi and wait a few years for them to implement it

>>106124329
>Anyone else also mildly excited by how Debian 13 is coming out in a week?
I guess I am, I'm on Debian 12 at the moment. Hopefully the upgrade won't break anything.

>>106124329
>Anyone else also mildly excited by how Debian 13 is coming out in a week?
Certainly I am
>>106124449
>Hopefully the upgrade won't break anything.
If you didn't fuck up with dependencies then you'll be good

I sense there's still some lagging issue with kernel 6.15.9 - last I checked it was in 6.15.1 and back then I went back to 6.14 which has no issues. It's not as bad anymore, but every once in a while I drag a window and it freezes for a split second, or I move the mouse and the entire mouse movement is delayed. Wtf is causing this in 6.15

>>106121558
>Is Bazzite a good option for a more general desktop experience
Yes, but if you're not "gaming" then there's no need to have Steam installed. In this case you should just use Aurora, which is made by the same team.

>>106121903
>heard that the immutable aspect of it is kinda shit to deal with
Not really, if anything the opposite is true. It's not a fully immutable distro like SteamOS is. Bazzite (and any other Fedora Atomic distro) allows you to install stuff system-wide and modify the system as you wish.
If anything it's infinitely easier to deal with it than a regular distro because all of your system mods are displayed as separate patches which you can easily undo/revert.

>>106121937
>Nobody actually uses Bazzite
>except it's in the top 10 most popular distros on Steam, having almost twice as many users as Debian

Will Debian 13 be a good distro for someone who is a beginner and wants to play games too?

>>106124711
No, what you're looking for is Bazzite. Debian is not beginner friendly.

>install dwm
>number rows doesn't register
>volume knob not working
what gives to this?

>>106124754
>install joke wm
>things don't work
who would've thought?

>customize gentoo kernel to support my new wifi card
>everything breaks
alright i love gentoo but i think its time to move on.
what distro do i chose? thinking about void, edeavour or slackware.

>>106124692
Yeah I think I'll switch back to 6.14 - I cannot find any information online why 6.15 does this shit, it's infuriating and my hardware is just a generic modern PC with AMD CPU and GPU. There's something wrong with all the 6.15 versions.

>>106125060
Go to 6.16

>>106125067
I fear it's going to be the same as 6.15, do you have any information if it fixes this problem? I cannot find it in changelogs.

>>106125090
I don't but I also don't have any stuttering like you do. It's worth a shot though, it's stable now so at the very least you might as well try it to see if your issue goes away.

>>106125102
I'm tired of using make nconfig and building the kernel but I guess I'll give it a try some day, maybe tomorrow.

>>106124711
>play games too
I tried to just run Steam on 12 and it didn’t run
I gave up

>>106125144
I've run steam flawlessly on debian stable and unstable for the past 3 years or so. I've installed steam using the official debian package, it just works with multilib.

>>106125258
Maybe I just didn’t have multilib installed.

>>106125268
You can't even install steam without multilib because steam is x86.

I'm reading conflicting info about screen sharing on discord on linux. Apparently it just doesn't work, specially on Wayland, but also apparently it's been fixed and now works flawlessly. Which one is it?

>>106125132
You can use Modprobe-db if you just want a quick way to build only what you need:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Modprobed-db

>>106125396
I'll try it, thanks.

>>106125132
>tired of
You mean the process of going thru hundreds of settings and turning off unnecessary hardware support? Yes, it's tiresome but you only have to do it once per PC. Enable /proc/config.gz and the config always follows.
>>106125060
6.14 is dead.

>>106124700
>but if you're not "gaming"
I mostly do game, browse the internet, watch films and connect via ssh to my work server to, well, work. Bazzite sounded interesting because I don't really want to set up the gaming stuff

>>106125415
>Yes, it's tiresome but you only have to do it once per PC
Yeah but once you go up in kernel versions you have to populate new config options and go through them and there are always so many new options.

>>106125438
It's peanuts.
>>106124006
>>106123957
What's the reasoning behind posts like these?

>>106125450
I make video games which already fills my day with work. I don't need bullshit, configuring the kernel for compilation is bullshit in my books.

>>106125484
Right. Just saying *if* you already got a custom config it's peanuts to import it to a newer kernel branch.

>>106121521
Bios updata could save your filthy soul. That's how I fixed my mint laptop not outputting audio through hdmi after banging my head to a wall enough.

>>106124711
It's easy if you know how to use a search engine. Honestly, in my humble opinnion debian is really beginner friendly.
If your hardware is older than 2 years it'll run perfect on mint too if you're scared of some configuration. (Mint is based on debian)

>>106124754
you have to configure them to be handled by something. first time using a wm by itself?

Anyone else have this problem on KDE Plasma (on 1440p) where any scaling above 100% makes the fonts look like dogshit? And what's worse, they look correct through screenshots?

>>106125590
Sounds like you have bad hinting or wrong subpixel anti-aliasing layout

Holy shit I'm retarded. I spent so much time trying to install grub for a (UEFI-booting) multiboot USB flash drive, not understanding what I was doing wrong.

I mounted /mnt/boot first instead of /mnt, and kept referring to the wrong efi directory during the grub installation. Not sure if declaring the boot directory was necessary either since I had chroot into the partition for the installation--I was doing all this from within the Arch installation media.

Not sure if during the pacstrap step, if it was necessary for me to install anything other than grub and efibootmgr.

Now onto the grub configuration and iso boot entries.

thunar,
i need to set a specific sorting method to a specific folder? tired of constanlty having to double click the date column to get the recent files.

any script that can do this? because thunar, though nearly perfect, still does not have this feature.

>>106125730
Even when they look fine on 100% and 150%?
Another thing I noticed is that, if I use the x11 version of firefox, fonts look really bad, and if I enable wayland in about:config, depending on how much I resize the browser window, the fonts will either look correct or blurry.

>>106125784
Remember view settings for each specific folder? It should be a setting there. Hell I remember being pedantic about Dolphin not saving things like zoom levels per folder while Thunar did so.

>>106125533
Thanks. My motherboard is an ASRock B450 Pro4, the BIOS version is 5.00 (20 May 2021).

What should I update it to? 5.60 was released on 21 October 2022 and it says it improved compatibility for the RTX 40 Series.

>>106125800
no idea why, but since i open with terminal command 'thunar /home.....' it seems to remember the setting. hope it stays that way.

>>106125421
In that case just get Bazzite. There isn't really any better distro for general use, unless you're a niche user who is opinionated about the DE, distro base, packages, minimalism, etc.

>>106125810
It should have that setting. Fuck if I know why it's greyed out on this screenshot I found.

Is there any applications to read qr code using the webcam?

>>106125827
those are for 'compact,list,icon' settings, not for sorting methods i believe.

>>106113200 (OP)
im on fedora 41
should i update?
id really rather not fuck around with a fully blanked system

I've read that I should avoid using openbox since I have 2 monitors with different refresh rates, but it looks kind of cool and I want to avoid more windows-like desktops and don't really like Gnome.

>>106113200 (OP)
Hello anons, something strange has happened to my computer.

Thunar usually has 2 maps in /home/: Desktop and Downloads. Today my home folder has 6 new folders that I did not make which have the same names as folders assigned to a user account on Windows.
These are the folders in question:
- Documents
- Music
- Pictures
- Public
- Templates
- Videos

I've checked Thunar, the latest version was released around 2 weeks ago, so it's not Thunar.
The only things I did on my machine yesterday was installing steam and playing tf2 (I switched to Linux 6 months ago, but I didn't feel like getting Steam up and running until yesterday).

Did Steam have anything to do with this?

>>106126281
Use Hyprland?

>>106126289
Apparently I shouldn't because I have an nvidia card

>>106126299
Wat? How is that in any way related? I've never heard of that before.

I love this distro but I'm worried the maintainer could crash out at any moment

FACT app images and flat packs are for losers and ird rather not use a program than use either they aer messy and leave shit everywhere and make it more difficult to launch the program from terminal by giving it weird ass names
I WILL NEVER USE THEM

>>106126287
Steam probably pulled xdg-user-dirs as a dependency

>>106126356
Ah shit, you're right. There they are in the config file. I guess I'll just delete the unnecessary folders then.

Thanks anon.

How do I have multiple users share a storage area for steam games? Is it as simple as putting them in a group with a shared directory somewhere?

>>106125785
XWayland doesn't scale properly. If you're using legacy X11 applications then make sure you disable scaling for them.

so i have been running endeavourOS with hyprland and the KooL dot files for about 4 or 5 days and i dont think i ever want to go back to windows i got everything i use to work including VR

>>106125533
>>106125804
I've updated my BIOS. Trying Linux Mint in a live session from USB again, but still no sound even after installing the recommended Nvidia drivers.

Any ideas?

Idk what to do. Just fully install it?

With AUR being too risky, I think I will move to Fedora or Tumbleweed.

>>106127475
or just don't use the aur

>>106127475
>Moving away from Arch to fucking Fedora or openSUSE
Are you baka?

>>106127495
The problem is that the official Arch repos are woefully lacking in software, thus necessitating the AUR.

>>106127555
And Fedora doesn't have that problem?

Does the choice between X11 and Wayland really matter for the average user? I read people talking about X as an old relic and a security breach. Meanwhile, Wayland doesn't seem to offer that much other than being under active development and the HDR support, and only on KDE it seems.

>>106127566
To lesser extent.
>>106127555
What software are we talking exactly?
>>106126537
Yes.

>>106127566
You can get more sources on Fedpra by double-clicking an .rpm file; on Arch you have to open a terminal and wait 3 hours for your program to compile from source.

>>106127475
the aur is only risky if you are a complete retard who installs things that look strange no one is going to " fix " or "patch" something on the AUR then leave the old version up they will just replace it with the new version

>>106127619
>What software are we talking exactly?
Discover is technically on Arch, except it only works with Flatpaks; the closest equivalent on Arch is pamac, and yet it isn't even in the Arch repo. You can of course add the Chaotic AUR as a source so that you don't have to compile anything yourself, but why add crap in with a terminal when Fedora just works? Hell, Fedora often has newer packages than Arch; right now I can see it has a newer build of the Dolphin emulator,
For the record, the Fedora repo currently has 73,777 packages, compared to 15,621 on Arch.

>>106127555
again the AUR is fine so long as you read the package you are installing instead of just going hog wild with it

>>106127977
Don't need to do that on distros that actually have the software.

>>106127977

>>106127985
Other distros don't have the software I install from the AUR thoughbeit

>>106127985
if you paid attention to the shit you are typing you wouldn't need to in the AUR either so far every bit of affected software had a tell right in the package name why would you install "firefox-patched-git" instead of just "firefox-git" for an example? who the fuck patches something and leaves the unpatched version up under the old name?

>>106127475
You have to investigate off label repos no matter what distro you use. Though AUR being a general cesspit is one of the reasons I don't use Arch too.

>>106128039
because it's a different user, or the patch may not be desirable in all situations.
Obviously, you should ask the question what was patched and if you'd want that patch.

>>106128112
i want and search for the official version 100 percent of the time cause i dont want some skiddie's modifications in the first place

Why does feh not update image if it's on mounted ssh directory?
I found that I can do -R, and it does what I need, but It keeps flashing "Reloading" in window name. Is there a way to make feh work same way for ssh mount as it works for local file, and just watch for file change silently?

Would using oh my posh and oh my zsh be overkill? I like oh my posh themes (I use them on my Windows machine with PS) and I don't go too crazy with plugins.

>>106128128
wine versions with fixes for certain games probably saw some usage.

>>106128169
what sort of a bloody idiot does that thought the AUR instead of one of the many programs specifically for that? again the only perople getting infected by this are utter retards

>>106124700
>the top 10 most popular distros on Steam
If you're not in the top 3 is basically nobody. Steam Linux users ex Deck are still a tiny group.

>>106127456
You could try. Sounds fucked beyond my expertise. It's really risky to try to fuck with changing between pipewire and pulseaudio on mint with the dependancies.
Consult mint forums for a real expert to help you if a full install won't work.

>>106128128
Then why don't you pull the source from mozilla.
Instead of showing /g/ that you are whiny arch-toddler, that can't use AUR. Yet so full of yourself, that you want you want decide other peoples naming convention.
I hope your next updates bricks.

>>106126318
nta, but I think this page: https://wiki.hypr.land/Nvidia/
used to say "we don't support nvidia, it's broken as shit on wayland, next time buy AMD". Maybe I'm thinking of a different project?

>>106127555
Use flatpaks and appimages like normal people do.

>>106127606
In some cases yes. X11 doesn't support some Wayland features, and Wayland doesn't support some X11 features. It really depends on what you need and what hardware you have.
For majority of users using Wayland is probably better. Especially since KDE stopped testing their X11 session and GNOME completely dropped the X11 session. Nobody has worked on X11 in years, aside from one guy who was just shuffling code around and breaking random shit.

>>106128233
wow you really are a retard the infected packages where all appended with something like " patched " or "fix" or in the case of the chrome one "stable" only a blithering fucking retard would install something like that without looking into it

>>106128187
>Debian
>nobody

wait, am I just supposed to never minimize stuff on Linux? I just should just throw the windows I'm not currently using to the next workspace?

>>106128256
>used to say
anon, think about what it means if it no longer says it

>>106128279
you can do whatever the fuck you want, this is linux, freedom of choice.

>>106128287
It is still broken shit:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/NVIDIA-R575-Wayland-Plans

It's just now it's gone from "completely broken unusable mess" to "somewhat usable unusable mess"

>>106128233
>I hope your next updates bricks.
*rolls back snapshot*

>>106128292
the DE I am using has no minimize window button and there's no built-in "show/hide all windows" shortcuts so I somehow assume I'm not supposed to be doing that in this workflow
I've been a long-time Win10 LTSC user and I'm actually kinda getting used to just alt-tabbing instead of using my cursor to switch windows
only need to get a hang of using virtual workspaces now
btw how can I get SPINNAN CUBEZ in 2025?

>>106128303
That's just the Nvidia experience on all operating systems and flavours of Linux. It's not like it works great in X11 either.

>>106128307
Arch with snapshots is too powerful. We might as well discontinue all other distros now

>>106128343
True. We all learn the hard way. I had an NVIDIA card before, never again, not until Nova and NVK is in very good shape and can compete with AMDGPU and RADV.

>>106128322
The DE you're using is GNOME, I assume? They're special snowflakes who want to reinvent the way desktops behave. They don't even have the system tray.
It's not really a DE for people who are already used to desktop OSs.

>>106128322
>the DE I am using has no minimize window button
well, you could use a different one. I don't have any buttons.

>>106128322
Gnome? It's widely known for its controversial choices, including not minimizing. I think there are extensions that change this behavior, but I'd go with tiling instead.
I don't use it so I don't know how polished the extensions are.

>>106128269
Throwing another tantrum, but it only displays your technical level.
Like i said you can grab the source files directly from mozilla, since you clearly don't understand AUR.
>>106128307
That's a real arch man.

should i keep my data drives for media/games as ntfs for shared access when dual-booting? will linux recognize them just like that?
also are there any downsides of doing this if i'm not storing anything sensitive there? my initial plan was to convert both to ext4 but having it shared with windows would be nice.
500gb ssd (250+250 for windows/linux) + 1tb hdd and 1tb ssd for media. this is what i have in mind currently

>>106128409
You can do that, but my experience juggling an NTFS drive between Windows and Linux has been that the drive gets corrupted and can't be mounted on Linux occasionally. Seems to work better if it's only mounted on Linux.

>>106128354
>>106128403
I'm the guy who installed Elementary after struggling with getting Pantheon to integrate to Manjaro/Arch nicely
it IS something similar to Gnome which I was utterly disgusted by ever since Gnome3
anyway, I really like how polished it is and would like to keep using it, also my laptop is a fake Macbook and I might as well use a fake Mac OS on it
but yeah I noticed there's no tray either and it's making me slightly uncomfortable

Do you need to bootstrap when installing arch from another linux distro or is that just useful for preserving data? I don't have anything on my current install that I care about.

>>106128485
you usually write the official iso to an usb, boot from that and just install it as you please.

>>106128445
what about the other way around? do you got any experience on that wsl-thingy, is it worth giving shot for mounting ext4?

>>106128485
I don't get it. Bootstrap as in using the pacstrap utility or extracting a root filesystem tarball? Isn't that the official Arch way?
>>106128554
Yes. But manual neckbeard installations can be done from any environment.

>>106128409
You can, downsides:
Windows update might overwrite boot entries
Windows saves the filename index in lowercase and uses some type of abstraction. Linux will write your CAPITAL letters to the NTFS journal (always write the filenames in lowercase).

While the friendly menus help you mount the partition, they don't always unmount properly, Do quick read mount, fstab and whatever you intend to use (this can cause corruption and some other issues, that you can easily avoid).

>>106128570
Yea I meant the pacstrap utility. I just wasn't sure what the advantage might be as opposite to using the basic archinstall since I already have mint on my machine

how to disable mitigations on linux mint?
/etc/grub/default not found

>>106128685
>/etc/grub/default not found
It's
/etc/default/grub

>>106128570
>manual neckbeard installations can be done from any environment.
no need to overcomplicate things

Why would someone switch to GNU/Linux other than "political" reasons - like really liking free software I mean.

You can do all the Linux stuff in Windows, even running Linux itself...

>>106128685
>disable mitigations
nyooo~

>>106128406
i understand it well enough to know not to grab random packages without checking them out first

>>106128729
>do my homework and tell me what to think
do whatever you want

>>106128563
I've never tried that, but I doubt there's going to be any issues mounting an ext4 drive on Windows and having it work perfectly. From what I understand you have access to all the Linux utils on Windows.
The primary reason NTFS sucks in Linux is if it does get corrupted by something, you have to boot back into windows to fix it. It's very inconvenient, specially when it gets corrupted alarmingly often.

>>106128729
Windows is slow and buggy. Also I just don't trust it when it comes to my privacy and security.
While I prefer using free software, I don't really care much about it. I mean fuck, I have a hundred proprietary games installed on my system and I have Steam running in background.

>>106128721
The only speciality about Arch is the pacstrap tool, without it it's completely generic.
Wonder why an universal Linux installer doesn't exist: a bootable ISO that contains Debootstrap, pacstrap and dnf -> could install any deb or rpm based distro along with Arch. Or basically anything that comes as a root filesystem tarball, assumed the ISO comes with basic tools such as tar.

>>106128712
damn

>>106128812
feel free to make it yourself.

>>106128812
>tar balls
wtf

so is the firefox source almost 4 gigs or did i do something wrong?

>>106128812
>spend hours developing just to save 10 minutes

how is a pacstrap different than using something like a pacman --root?
without few exceptions none of the things you did on live env is carried over in arch anyway?

After playing around with several DE's and WM's, I think may be taking the Gnome pill

>>106128912
Huh?
>>106128856
Yes.
>>106128836
I'm too retarded for the actual task, I just know the basics. Been booting and bootstrapping Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora using my own kernel. And Arch and Gentoo obviously.

Alright I've got Linux Mint working with sound working.
What shall I do now?

>>106129167
install any missing core programs you use

>>106129167
use your OS to do OS stuff, aka run programs

>>106129167
Uninstall it and hop to another distro. Nobody actually uses Linux, people just keep installing different distros.

>>106129186
i will never use windows again they shit they have coming on the horizon is unforgivable

>>106128729
Hyprland, Windows looks like shit.

>>106129226
What's coming to Windows? I haven't used it on my personal devices since Windows 7, and my corpo W11 laptop has somehow bricked it's updater so I can't even get 24H2.

>>106129250
share dotfiles?

>>106129267
from what i have read they will start requiring proof of age to even fucking boot the thing

>>106128729
Windows didn't accept my activation code after I changed mobo and CPU
I am NOT going to fucking pay Microsoft to use an OS that harvests my info and makes them money, at the very least they should have the decency to make that thing free.

>>106129167
If you care about HDR and gaming then uninstall it. Otherwise enjoy it.

>>106129282
I mean.. you don't really need to activate Windows. Not that you should use it, but activating it is a waste of time.

>>106129268
I use jakoolit's, just changed the font size and deleted pedo wallpapers.

>>106129298
Doesn't it stop getting security updates if you don't?

>>106129303
oh ok i already use that

>>106129309
You can manually install updates and individual patches.

>people dont now about the windows activation scripts

>>106129309
Not as far as I know, it has been a while since I used unactivated Windows but from what I remember it worked just normal. The version on my crappy youtube laptop is activated.

Also Windows updates suck, so that would be a blessing if it did happen. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely.

>>106128729
theming unironically

>>106129338
I am not going to run some random person's script
I am not going to use some shady third party key site
I am just not going to use Windows.

>>106129329
>>106129340
I see. I figured they would hold the security updates hostage as a form of pressure.

made this my new wallpaper

i tried Linux for a few weeks in january, but i kept running into problems with my nvidia gpu. applications like krita were basically unusable because they were full of visual artifacts, and i couldn't get windows art apps like clip studio paint to run properly with wine. games generally ran alright but i always had some issues with resolution/refresh rate detection being weird but art apps either being incredibly buggy or unusable meant that i ended up reinstalling windows and dealing with that shitpile for the last 7 months.


ended up getting sick of windows yet again so this time, i went with openSUSE Tumbleweed (was using fedora last time, maybe that was my problem?) and literally everything just works this time. i'm using the proprietary nvidia drivers for now, and adaptive sync works perfectly with all the games i've tested. i did have to manually install opentabletdriver and spend a few minutes of my time reading the documentation to get it set up, but now it's working flawlessly. krita's interface no longer bugs out with black squares everywhere, and i got clip studio to work perfectly with Wine by following the tutorial pewdiepie mentioned in his videos.

why the hell are people still using windows? are they actually retarded

>>106129396
you can't. you'll be called a pedo

>>106129410
>35 year old women
>pedo

>>106129410
Nobody's going to call a 16 year old a pedo for having that as their wallpaper

>>106129419
im 38

>>106129413
>age
it's the weight now that count

>>106129435
you are retarded

>>106129303
>jakoolit
I was just curious about hyprland but my brain hurts. I think its all the animations and shit jumping around

>>106129440
Not that guy but he is very clearly LARPing as an average Twitter user and yes, that IS something they would say.
The weight/height of consent is a real thing to some of those "people"

>>106129396
Takes me back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc

>>106129450
those people are assholes they dont take the woman's autonomy into account anymore than the average rapist its gettin the the point where they treat 40 and 50 year old women like they are teenagers

>>106129408
Fedora is a freetard distro which doesn't include anything proprietary out of the box. You're not supposed to use it unless you know what you're doing. The "noob-friendly" versions of it are Nobara and Bazzite.

>>106129485
Yes, it is almost surreal to watch.
Not sure if it's posturing or if they genuinely believe shit like that but reading comments like that is quite something.

>>106129408
The nvidia drivers are in the rpm fusion repo, where all their non free shit goes. It has to be enabled. If you didnt add that repo and install the proprietary drivers then yeah, thats probably the issue you had.
There's also the chance that now you're using x11 instead of wayland or the other way around
Also, nice to hear opensuse has been working for some people

>>106128729
Linux runs old Windows software better than Windows. Also the older and wealthier I get, the more put off I am by Mac and Windows' total disregard for confidentiality. My boomer relatives show me how Mac automatically slurps all their photos into the cloud and tags them with AI like it's a great thing, and all I can think is "those fucking jeets are going to drain your retirement account"

>>106129558
name one
just one

>>106129660
Not him, but Windows software that runs better on Linux than Windows? Artificial Academy 2.

>>106129537
nah im using wayland since i use an oled hdr monitor for gaming/movies.

>>106129489
i was using the proprietary drivers from the fusion repo on fedora

>>106129691
KOTOR

Is there a way to assign virtual desktop/workspace to a monitor?

New thread >>106129778

>>106129728
Depends on your desktop or compositor. In KDE this is impossible but it's a common feature request.

>>106129847
>In KDE this is impossible
well fuck.
What about virtual display with sunshine?
I mean the PC is connected to a monitor and display somehting, and when connecting to it with sunshine, I'd get another display and not what's showing in the monitor?

>>106127456
if you want an easy thing to try try some other distro’s live CD

>>106128322
there’s an option to turn on minimize buttons in GNOME…somewhere
there’s also Super+H to minimize

>>106128729
Debian still works on my old machine
Windows won’t updoot in a few months unless I pay $30 or put all my files in OneDrive

>>106129728
>>106129847
Isn't this how KDE Plasma behaves by default?

>>106130130
No.

>>106130220
Then I have no idea what you guys are trying to achieve. Each of my monitors has a separate workspace switcher on Plasma 6.4.3.

>>106130259
are you ESL?

>>106130274
I'm white and didn't understand what >>106129882 was even asking

>>106130274
>Is there a way to assign virtual desktop/workspace to a monitor?
What the fuck does this mean then? Either you guys have no idea what workspaces are supposed to be, or you're talking about a feature that already exists.

>>106123011
my newname
>>106124779
just use the gentoo-kernel-bin?
>>106125377
it works for me under sway, but I don't I never used the electron app, I just use it through the browser

>>106128201
>>106129925
I got it working, just fully installed it and sound is working. >>106129167

Had to update the Nvidia drivers

>>106130284
Americans are not white. stfu, you are either mixed, brown or black. US is third world country. You are literally instagram whore tier cuck wanting attention. You are slave and probably are one of those poor butthurt Windows or iPhone cucks.

>>106131308
yup you're a brown