Thread 106123251

Why don't porn companies, Japanese loli publishers, and Steam some together to make a new payment processor that can rival Mastercard/Visa?

>>106123251 (OP)
The goal of the Jew isn't to get you to pay for it. It's to corrupt society. They already achieved their goal.

>>106123251 (OP)
the japanese doesn't even try to get their own government to remove censorship from porn, they likely welcome censored payments

>>106123280
(old model because someone probably wonders what was censored)

>>106123251 (OP)
Because making a payment processor doesn't automatically mean the payment processor also has customers. Say they did make one, how does your average Joe pipe money from his bank account to this new payment processor, without using his MC or Visa card?

>>106123310
Many big payment processors also get whipped by bigger payment processors or banks, needing to change their policies or go out of business. The restriction of what people can do with their money is disgusting and I hope something comes out of awareness before paper money becomes impossible to use anywhere because that's when the big restrictions will come. We're talking stuff like max 1000 USD allowed to be spent in one day, call your bank for permission to spend more and explain why etc.

>>106123251 (OP)
Just stop using porn, it's that simple. Don't be a weirdo.

>>106123396
Next up: Violence needs to be censored. And yes, speech can be violence.

>>106123379
when debit cards were a new thing we had to do this

There's many alternative payment systems in Japan. JCB is a major credit card company.

>>106123251 (OP)
not gonna happen because of how complicated it is most likely with different regulations, etc.
that's why the alternatives that exist are usually confined to a single or few countries at best.

I heard that Capital One acquired Discover with the objective of creating a viable alternative to Visa and MasterCard

It would unironically be easier to create a new country

>>106123489
Discover was the first one to start banning shit back under the Patriot act in 2011. They're the ones who pressured Visa and Mastercard to start going after gun guys and 3d printed guns

You'd have to be retarded to think they don't all work together to push this shit

obviously VISA/MC wouldn't allow their international market share to get eaten by anything
it's why crypto was vilified, why UnionPay was banned in burgerland, why sovereign GPN systems are considered an "uncompetitive trade barrier"

>>106123396
>he thinks it will stop at porn

>>106123251 (OP)
>just make your own bank, bro

>>106123251 (OP)
Wait, you think they will ban porn?
KEK, you will simply be required to show ID to see it. Porn is such inseparable part of the people's lives now that they will gladly give ID just to have it back.
It's the best way to get people used to the ID check, they will never protest about porn because it's ez to show them as perverts but can't live without it.
Also, jews rule western corpos, japan and the porn industry.

>>106123251 (OP)
think it's something nobody had the know-how to pull off or visa/mastercard mafia keeps anyone from getting into the money game?

>>106123280
It's not censored in Japan, you fucking moron.

>>106123251 (OP)
gaddafi didn't want to use dollar either, you should really check how he ended up

>>106123251 (OP)
better idea, payment processors are legally required to process all payments unless court ordered not to, otherwise they lose all their special legal protections

>>106123858
didn't that suppose to apply already to places like facebook, and I think search engines also? something along the lines if it does censorship then its a publisher not a platform

>>106123512
Am I missing something? Why isn't crypto the obvious alternative?
Almost makes one wonder if they're pulling this bullshit to push people into crypto.

do Americucks not have the ability to pay by direct bank transfer?

>>106123251 (OP)
kike jews would literally resort to nukes if that ever came close to happening

>>106123938
>Almost makes one wonder if they're pulling this bullshit to push people into crypto.
WEF has been talking about introducing a global digital currency (controlled by their one global nation btw hint hint) for years now, publicly
None of this is a mystery, the idea is chinese social credit score but with IRL money

>>106123938
DLsite is already taking crypto payments.
And according to the infamous Daiz from Fakku (>>>/a/279213817)
>Once upon a time the site did have it as an option via a Coinbase integration, but Coinbase dissolved the contract due to "problematic content" because of their partnerships with banks. So if you want to do crypto integration the easy way, you can still end up suffering due to the puritan policies of payment processors and banks. That only leaves the hard way of rolling and self-hosting your own crypto payment solution, which due to the minimal use of crypto payments in the first place was deemed not worth the effort.

>>106123858
This is theft. The Government should Not interfere in Markets. Payment processes have the Right to do whatever they Wish with Their Property. OP is correct in saying that if various Companies dislike these Practices then They should make Their Own Payment Processor.

>>106123850
kids will always be naive idealists, that's why they want to lower the voting age in certain countries. they have no clue about how the world works

You first need a protocol between you and all the banks in the world. Then you need all the shops to have a compatible terminal or the online shops to implement your platform. Only visa and Mastercard have an unified network like this.

>>106123953
1. You'd have to give them your account number
2. Not too many online retailers accept it, generally utilities do.
3. Some banks have their own alt-Venmo like Zelle.
4. If more people did this, banks would start getting into the censortheft racket like Paypal.
So maybe it's better they don't.

>>106124025
>please think of the rights of the half-trillion dollar monopoly!
I'm glad you faggot lolberterians are going extinct

>Japanese loli publishers
Akaneshinsha has been in a downward spiral for a decade, they couldn't even keep LO monthly.
The real force is BL, which is published as all-ages softcore pornography by almost all bigger Japanese publishers.

>>106124129
>monthly
I think that's way too frequent for porn
Like, this isn't manga, it doesn't need monthly chapters it's not an ongoing storyline

>>106124025
>They should make Their Own Payment Processor.
implying you'd be allowed to

>>106123251 (OP)
Hey retard. Steam could easily go back to accepting bitcoin the same way they did until 2017.
Those other companies could do that same. They don't do it because they don't want to.

Europe already has alternatives like sofort or wero (an unified ideal, giropay, bancontact, ...) but it doesn't matter because visa/Mastercard is still the only way to access most customers in the rest of the world. They will tell you to remove this and that or you get banned. Something like Steam would have to make two different platforms: one for the EU and one for the rest of the world with different websites, apps, ... It doesn't worth it.

>>106124159
It is a Free Market. CapitalOne is considering making their own Payment Processor. Simply follow the Rules and you can Participate.

>>106124205
>It is a Free Market.
most hilarious post of the year

>>106124198
>They don't do it because they don't want to.
Or VISA said "Hey we don't like that you're supporting bitcoin..."

>>106124205
The collective major governments of the world, including Russia, coordinated in lockstep with payment processors in the span of a few weeks. What do you think are the odds any newbies won’t be made to fall into line?

>>106123396
Cuck, retard, or narcissist?

>>106124199
Euros actually making their processors run through Euro dollar and infrastructure will actually affect the market
part of why "orange man" is mad about QRIS/PIX and all the other sovereign fintech is because they aren't the intermediary spine

>>106124226
https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1464096684955433613

They said it very clearly that the issue was the high volatility.
That's no longer the issue to the degree it used to be.

>>106124263
>They said it
Mastercard said they never asked anybody to censor anything (lie)

>>106124014
Rossartists get the rope

>>106124263
They could've taken usdt

>>106123251 (OP)
Hiro is working on one. He got the idea after payment processors went after DLsite a while back. He told me so while we were exploring each others bodies. Moot was there too, watching.

>>106124151
> this isn't manga
Eromanga isn't manga?
The artists published in LO usually didn't get published every issue but they maintained a large enough roster to cover that.
But the increased restrictions on loli from various angles in addition to competition from patron services, doujin sales and the like ruined that.

>>106124263
funny how 8 years later and cryptotards still haven't solved this problem.

>>106123524
Making a payment processor is very different from decoupling an entire continent who still is exploited by major world powers.

>>106123291
That's the old model most people didn't even experience.
PICREL is the model people loved. Not censored, just an improvement. PICREL is actually the "new" succubus model, because that's the old one.

They updated the models but >>106123280 does not represent them.

>>106124025
if your industry requires special protections under the law in order to exist, then they should have to function along the same lines as a utility

should your electric company be able to cut off your power because they suspect you may have played a porn game they don't like?

>>106123280
This fucking thing is a meme. It's basically a tranny's take on the right variant seen in >>106124703 but with special "fel" retard shit baked into it. She's a "boss bitch" or something and the pants are unique to that shit model.

If you're trying to showcase censorship showing a pants succubus is not valid because that's abnormal and not relevant since most Succubi are running around without pants even today.

>>106124703
Here's what the new latest (updated from old new) model looks like.
No pants, basically the same thing.
They even have a red variant without the pants.
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=90615/succubus

The pants wearing tard is a distinctly different thing.
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=119318/succubus

>>106124742
>should your electric company be able to cut off your power because they suspect you may have played a porn game they don't like?
Yes.

>>106124025
Governments have a responsibility to regulate business to protect their citizens' rights, and this "free market" rhetoric is their main excuse why they won't

>>106123850
>Japan creates its own payment processing company
>Suddenly it's back on the official bad guys list next to Iran, China and Russia
>Gets bombed into oblivion by US bombers because it doesn't have any nukes
>Porn also gets completely banned by the new sionist government for good measure
Probably not worth it

>>106123251 (OP)
> porn companies, Japanese loli publishers, and Steam some together
>vs
> Mastercard/Visa
That's like putting a five-year-old against a boxing champion and calling it a fair fight.

>>106124818
JCB
Paypay
atone
Bitcash
paidy
LINE Pay

Just to name a few.

banning hentai is the scapegoat to implement censorship and digital id. its all bs.

>>106124843
So why don't they use them instead of Visa and the like?

>>106124886
The sites accept those but people also used Visa and Mastercard for years without problems.

>>106124900
So we just have to stop using Visa/Mastercard then, what's the problem? Ah yes our banks don't work with those small payment processors, which is why they're irrelevant.

>>106123251 (OP)
If a new payment system appeared in the US Visa/MasterCard/PayPal would sue them and lobby lawmakers to make them illegal.

>if you don't like it just make your own video games
>if you don't like it just make your own social media site
>if you don't like it just make your own webhost
>if you don't like it just make your own domain registrar
>if you don't like it just make your own trillion dollar global conglomerate and get billions of customers to use your custom credit card and process payments on that
It's all so tiresome.

>>106123251 (OP)
because hentai games aren't anywhere near being big enough of a market to justify the effort

>>106125010
which is why I hoped EU would've done something earlier with their wero shit

>>106123455
>JCB
Is the Apple-Gate thing still around?

>>106123396
Weird thing to say

>>106123953
That's a cucked way to pay for stuff. You have to call your bank if you don't do it much and humiliate yourself asking them to open up bank transfers for international payments. You have to share a lot of personal information to the retailer and it's a slow process. All being closely monitored and tracked. There must be other ways.

>>106124964
Have you asked your bank if they can issue a JCB card?

>>106125235
There aren’t, by design

>>106125410
There's crypto for starters. Prepaid cards and certain digital banks/cards may also work and make it more smooth

>>106123251 (OP)
the payment processors are middlemen to a ruling class that hates you

>>106125368
I'm 100% sure they don't. Maybe some Lithuanian banks would, I need to investigate.

>>106125763
https://www.global.jcb/en/products/cards/issuer/index.html
You need to ask them in order to change that.

>>106124746
Thank you

>>106123251 (OP)
Porn companies should be illegal and treated as international terrorists and hunted down.

>>106123251 (OP)
Because the USA must control who people can pay to and who receive payment.

>>106123251 (OP)
Don't the nips have a national payment system?

>>106123251 (OP)
Because this has nothing to do with porn. It's a push to bully you into accepting digital ID on the internet.

>>106123723
Yeah it is, you fucking moron.

>>106123396
Just stop being racist, it's that simple. Don't be racist.

>>106125980
Deal with your own addiction instead of getting the government involved in everyone's business to make things worse.

>>106123251 (OP)
>2 companies that don't do anything but act as middlemen handle nearly all card transactions on the planet
Pretty sure this violates competition law in every country besides some caribbean islands

>>106124234
>cuck
porn is the ultimate cuck, stroking your pp to other people having sex

>>106123251 (OP)
One guy owns a majority of stocks in most major banks that own stocks in eachother and lower financial institutes to bypass monopoly laws. He doesn't like certain fetishes and the rest of society has to deal with it until he dies.

>>106123624
my credit card already has my legal name and birth date on it. yes, I'm over 18. let me buy the ecchi game. it can't be that hard

>>106123723
what kind of rock have you been living under, you fucking moron

>>106126687
Jokes on you i only stroke it to the combination of softcore + imagination, i can actually rotate a 3D apple in my head you know

>>106123938
>Why isn't crypto the obvious alternative?
It is but people are too lazy to put in the five minutes of effort it would take to setup one of the dozen available ready to go selfhosted payment gateways or the literally hundreds by now payment processing services if you are too lazy and or retarded to do it yourself. I've been paying literally everything online with crypto for years, it is possible, most companies just don't do it because they only larp about giving a shit. The ones that actually do have been accepting crypto for years.

>>106129301
I think crypto is a scam, but this payment processor monopoly and now control seems to be a bigger scam.

The free market is the only freedom you have left, savor your right to buy DRM free porn games from some other distributor since the government has no say over your ability to transfer money.