Thread 106131443

And it's just a job. He's not trying to buy your baby, or your soul. It's a job. How much do you have to make to say no to that?

Especially if you don't have the resources to build this yourself?

And it was actually $1.5 Billion
>Sources: the researcher who declined Zuckerberg's offer of a $1.5B+ package over six years is Thinking Machines co-founder and ex-Meta staffer Andrew Tulloch

>>106131443 (OP)
if they offer to pay you $1.5 billion dollars
they think you're worth more than $1.5 billion

Lifetime cunny pass

>>106131443 (OP)
GPT6 probably told them not to take it

>>106131443 (OP)
My laziness. I would have to work for that money. Work ruins my comfy day.

>>106131443 (OP)
Imma be real widchu dawg they retarded. He's lucky he didn't hire those retards

>>106131651
Yeah, but even if you're lazy you could surely pull 1 month of salary free.

>>106131483
No. Zuckerberg's ego has to be fed. He won't accept to lose to OpenAI.

>Turn down $ 1 000 000 000
Imagine the toxicity of that brand.

>>106131443 (OP)
When someone promises you something like $1.5B it means every single one of your orifices belongs to them for the next 6 years 24/7

>>106131651
This. I'm used to fucking around and doing nothing at work half of the day. If they paid me some egregious amount of money they'd probably be expecting me to be constantly engaged and work insane hours.

They refused the 1B bc Scam Altman offered them 1.5B to stay at ClosedAI it's not that complex.

There was literally a leaked internal memo about this recently.

>>106131651
You could probably coast off the other tryhards they poach with crazy money

>>106131443 (OP)
a contract like that would be paid mostly in stock options which will be worth substantially less by the time you can sell them unless you believe your value as an individual developer is going to drive 'meta' to be a trillion dollar company. Or they might not be. Depends how long you think the musical chair game lasts before people realize chatbots already hit the point of diminishing returns.

>>106131443 (OP)
>$1 BILLION dollar salary
>Look inside
>$250M salary

>>106131443 (OP)
I dont get it. Where's the core of all this? Is the AI tech crowd really onto something everyone else isn't? Is the corporate/investment world just falling for being told exactly what they want to hear? I just don't get how LLMs are enough to justify the level of hype. It just isn't stopping.

>>106131443 (OP)
>implying they wouldn't have dumped a stack of papers on your desk and told you to sign
>implying at some point wouldn't be a 'you need to work 20+ years in order to get the money first' hidden
>implying they wouldn't just fire you as soon as you were close to that

>>106131443 (OP)
Zuck wanted him because he has a lot of insider knowledge.

>>106131664
>Yeah, but even if you're lazy you could surely pull 1 month of salary free.

u fucking idiot lmao , a ""salary" like that is not like what u or me would define as a salary. The 1.5B would likely be contingent on a bunch of things and a minimum 5-10Y commitment like an athletic contract

>>106132178
How though? They're gonna hold off paying your salary for a month?

>>106131443 (OP)
tax.

>>106132207

You probably get like 5-10M up front and since you are high IQ and a workaholic - you're not spending that much money like a retard for quite a long time.

I know of a specialized PHD guy at my old uni who google wanted to hire and they had a lab ready to go in california , that son of a bitch just didn't want to move and he turned it down , what did google do? Built him a $15M lab where he lived

If they want you - they will move heaven and earth to make it happen.

>>106131443 (OP)
Once you're earning millions, do you need to earn billions? You already get more than you'll ever need so salary isn't an issue.

>>106132212
Billionaires don't pay (much) tax.

So its a man

>>106131443 (OP)
Greed, or they don't want the stress that will come with the job as they will no doubt be up their ass the entire time to deliver on products.

>>106132029
Even at $250M that puts you in the top 0.5%, but you're right all these silicon jobs advertise huge "salaries" but most of it usually is in stock or other lifestyle "bonuses".

>>106131443 (OP)
I remember read about him.
https://tullo.ch/articles/speeding-up-isotonic-regression/
https://tullo.ch/about/

The answer is that most of the package must be conditional on being able to sell Meta shares in a few years. Plus an annual salary, so it's no more than $1.5 billion. There are all kinds of clauses that would wipe out his earnings if he resigns or goes to another company. Plus an 80-100 hour work week.

So he must have a stake in Thinking Machines. If the company ends up being bought by a giant, he will still earn many billions of dollars.
In Silicon Valley, legends have been created of executives and engineers earning huge amounts of money when a start-up is bought by a large company or the company goes public.

So he must be thinking about earning hundreds of millions from Meta or having the possibility of earning billions from Thinking Machines. Plus, he has the freedom to seek other jobs worth hundreds of millions of dollars as a co-founder and engineer with a decade of experience in large-scale systems, and he must already be a millionaire.

>>106132424
>you probably
you don't know shit, fuck off.

>>106132678
>So he must have a stake in Thinking Machines. If the company ends up being bought by a giant, he will still earn many billions of dollars.
It won't.

>>106132060
They're going to replace most jobs and account for the vast majority of the economy in the next 5 years anon.
It's painfully obvious why this is such a big deal and also why people at the rudder can make decisions like turning down a 1 billion dollar salary with a sense of confidence that they made a good decision.

>>106131443 (OP)
Its not 1.5b, it's 1.5b over six years, 250m a year.

>>106132491
Billionaires don't pay tax at all. They are merely forced to invest in the most profitable and powerful institution known to mankind.

>>106131443 (OP)
I'm not going to offer my services to a kike

>>106131443 (OP)
its a billion in stock not cash that can be next to worthless depending on the restrictions.

>>106131443 (OP)
Jobs like this come with NDAs and with NDAs come the absolute worst most horrendous nuclear waste jobs imaginable. You probably have to put Zuckerberg's shit on a plate and eat it as your mandatory work hazing ritual and then sign a contract that renders your salary fully void with a return payment demand the minute their AI face recognition cameras detect you not smiling. Anyone with an ounce of self-preservation would reject it.

>>106131483
He thinks you're worth $1.5 billion as something that's not a competitor to him.

Because no money is worth working for nazi enablers like Zucc.

>>106132060
White collars know that their jobs are bullshit. LLMs aren't going to be smart enough to replace a person but they're smart enough to replace entire organizations.

>>106132572
>0.00001%
ftfy

>>106131443 (OP)
>He's not trying to buy your baby, or your soul.
Press x to doubt

these people are high IQ and know Zuck is basically crashing Meta into the ground, why would you work for them instead of pushing the frontiers of LLM's with Microsoft and OpenAI?
OK cool you got your Meta job now enjoy six years of Zuck breathing down your neck every morning and constantly calling you asking
>Where's my AGI motherfucker answer me
when he already gets paid millions

>>106135339
state of things when someone needs to point out, 'even' $250m p/a is some ways beyond Top 0.5%

>>106135348
Suckin zuck runs the spyware agency that musk wishes he could

Can't get you child brides, it's not real money.
Money was invented for raping little girls for 40 pieces of sumerian currency and keeping them forever.

White people hate this and are faggots.
YHWH allows child brides.

>>106131443 (OP)
narcissism (they're now known as the person who turned down a billion dollars)

>>106131443 (OP)
Id take it unless I was or would he earning more by not

>>106131443 (OP)
If your needs are covered for a comfy life with a safety net, you don't NEED the money, brother. As a neet I don't know exactly how much money you need to have such an insurance, but I'm pretty sure it's much less than a billion $$$.
Pretty sure this guy has such an insurance. So, he can consider the offer without monetary rewards clouding his judgement. And without money, the offer is basically a "change a known devil (your current employer) for an unknown one, except you know the latter has more power and less incentives to play nice" shit. Sounds like a trap.

>>106131656
Stop talking like a nigger.

>>106131443 (OP)
>$1 BILLION dollar salary
It's fake money. It would be something like call options or locked printed equity which can be unlocked if you do thing 1, 2, 3, ... 999999 on each 5th Friday of February in a leap year.

>>106131443 (OP)
>What would make you turn down $1 BILLION dollar salary?
'ate facebook
not racis', just dun' like em

>>106131443 (OP)
>it's not like he's buying your soul or anything
debatable

>>106132938
>5 more years, trust me bro then we'll have AI that can automate jobs away.

>>106136327
This desu. How much better can your life get when you already have enough money for everything you need and want?

Hang them all and burn them alive.

>>106131443 (OP)
Unless they had an actual truck full of cash money I would not trust an offer like that
And frankly I wouldn't trust the cash truck either
It's not like I could feasibly count it

>>106131443 (OP)
>salary
There's your answer. Worse if it's less than liquid. Worse if they know they can do it themselves or raise the money without being a corporate slave.

>reject the Devil's offer
Bless them.

>>106132060
>>106135321
This, the blue/white collar back and forth is coming to a head, and it turns out the person who does actual work is the one who is more valuable.

>>106131443 (OP)
Sin. If it goes against God's will, I ain't having nothing to do with it, but that's "on paper", meaning I hope that would be my choice, but I don't know the depths of my own wickedness.

>>106131443 (OP)
>Why would I turn this job down
Because I'm not qualitifed for it

>Thinking Machines
>not related to the supercomputer company
Cringe

>>106132060
Every year AI gets better, more powerful thanks to more, and more powerful hardware, as well as software improvements.

Current LLMs aren't some ultimate pinnacle, they are essentially Model T prototype equivalents for the most powerful of all techs, and timelines are short.

>>106139843
You mental midgets think le heckin based tradesman is impossible of getting replaced are in for a rude fucking awakening.

>>106131443 (OP)
I want to remind everybody that thinks that these tech CEOs are anything other than gigantic fucking grifters that just a few years ago everybody on this board was saying how NFTs and digital real estate in the Metaverse were the future and how everybody that disagreed was a retarded luddite that just didn't understand the genius behind those things. If you retards had any actual experience building things in the real world, you'd know that the AI hype is one gigantic bubble and that LLMs are nowhere near capable of becoming AGI or actually doing important work. No, throwing more compute isn't going to actually solve the issue, anymore than just a few more months is gonna enable Tesla to deliver FSD.
Stop buying into retarded hype from fucking Jews and Indian CEOs that have neither the mental capacity nor incentive to build anything that actually fucking works.

>>106140041
>falling for the knee jerk reaction test
Ha! GOTTEEM!!

>>106131443 (OP)
>>106140067
Not to mention even the most hype of hypetards that are actively using LLMs for their businesses are running into throttling on their "unlimited" plans because this shit is insanely expensive and does not allow for economies of scale the way other technology does. Once the investor money dries up and customers are actually expected to foot the real bill for their fancy chatbots we're going to see the mother of all corrections on this shit. Microsoft is actively FORCING their employees to use their AI tools because it's all shit and doesn't save time and isn't actually nearly as useful for doing real work as unemployed /biz/ cryptofaggots and marketing shills would have you believe.

>>106132572
My point was that it's $1.5 billion of mostly stock options and shit *over the course of 6 years.* That's only $250M per year and only a fraction of that is actual money. Which is still a lot, but it's not even close to the same thing as a "$1 BILLION salary."

>>106131443 (OP)
man there's literally nothing i wouldnt do for 25 million dollars.
literally.
that's "i will never have to wage again for the rest of my life" money.
fuck this gayass earth.

>>106133014
That's more than the net worth of a lot of yt wealth influencers

>>106140067
>>106140115
>llms are bad because... they just ARE okay??

>>106135297
aka you can cause more than $1.5 billion of damage as a competitor

>>106141274
Point out where I said that, faggot.

Why would a top AI developer talent want to go work for a social media website?

>>106131443 (OP)
>What would make you turn down $1 BILLION dollar salary?
If I'm honest here, absolutely nothing, since that job most probably requires me to do jack shit besides muster some ideas sometimes and look over the product during development, I absolutely don't believe they're paying 1 billion to some developer ever if they're top notch.
But my wild guess is that this person probably thought he could set up his own unicorn startup and leverage a bigger wage in a couple of years while retaining full ownership over the finished product.

>>106131443 (OP)
>Genuine question: What would make you turn down $1 BILLION dollar salary?
i wouldn't work a single day for any amount of money if i absolutely didn't have to work

>>106133028
israel?

>>106131443 (OP)
I just don't want to work anymore.

>1.5 billion “package”
>real salary: 1million a year
>1.48 billion in stock you can’t touch until after the 6 year period and we’re gonna fire you at 5 years and 11 months.
>company car
>dental
>health insurance
>meals at work
>macbook
Americans are always so disingenous when they talk about salaries.

>>106143052
You really think meta can't afford 1B?
>macbook
Zuck hates macos tho

>>106139420
AI has already replaced most if not all white collar work.
The machinery already exists for AI to replace most if not all blue collar jobs.
What exactly do you think AI won't replace? I struggle to come up with a singe example to be completely honest.
It's ok if you want to keep your head buried in the sand tho. Ignorance is bliss and in this case humanity is quite literally being made obsolete. Pretty bleak desu

Just remember that someone traded a pizza for bitcoin instead of holding for $1 billion. Money isn't everything, once you get enough for a house (~$300,000) you basically have diminishing returns.

>>106143847
>enough for a house
>$300,000

>>106143847
If Trump manages to convince The Fed to go all in on CBDCs now that he has the Epstein shitlist as leverage, Bitcoin will become worthless and or illegal.

>>106131443 (OP)
I have an irrational and probably self-defeating grudge against the big tech companies for ideological and moral reasons, but I don't know if that would prevent me from selling my soul for that kind of price.

ai doesn't exist according to /g/ tards.

>>106143774
It hasn't done any of those things though. Stop huffing sci-fi and go outside. Do you see machines everywhere? AI replaced the jobs that were already pajeet tier simple like call center shit. This also ignores the real issue, accountability. Who's accountable when you AI accountant fucks up and get you heat from the IRS? Are you going to trust an AI lawyer when you might be looking at 10 years?
AI techbros are peak consooomers

>>106145066
Yes I would obviously trust an algorithm that actually understands the law over some greedy asshole trying to make a buck off of me. Same thing with an accountant. Those are two examples of jobs that already don't exist.
You can keep paying thousands of dollars for a fleshy mouth breathing, vacation taking, mistake making retard to do your taxes and file your lawsuits. I don't care. But don't be surprised or say we didn't warn you when the business world (IE the money machine) moves on to the cheaper, faster, and easier to deal with alternative.