Thread 106131459

Hans Reiser

>BetterAd7552\u2022
>Urgh. I remember so many times being dropped into single user mode after a reboot (from a kernel crash) because ext2 was corrupted. fsck didn\u2019t always save the day.
>
>And yes, I\u2019m that old (been using linux since kernel 0.9.x).

You people don't get what Hans Reiser and the Russians did.

iheartrms

I was the sysadmin at MP3.com back around 1998. We had a fileserver with something like 8 9G drives in it running ext2. Whenever it went down hard it took hours to fsck. We grew fast, needed a lot more storage, so we started buying Sun servers with Veritas VXFS and volume manager. But that was really complicated and expensive. I learned about reiserfs, got in touch with Hans, and put him in touch with my senior management. We managed to get funding to pay for Hans and his team to finish the journalling feature so that we could use it and it saved us millions. You may remember seeing MP3.com mentioned in the kernel boot messages when the reiserfs module loaded.

Hans is the only person I have ever interacted with who turned out to be a murderer.

Now, here are a bunch of tasteless reiserfs jokes I collected back in the day:

ReiserFS now renamed "CakeFS" because that's where you look to find a file in jail

If the journal won't commit you must acquit!

Hans shot first!

I heard that ReiserFS 4 would be a killer, but this is ridiculous!

If he is found guilty, the name of the filesystem will have to be changed, too. Otherwise it will fall into obscurity along with MansonFS, OswaldFS and the great-but-forgotten object-based, journalling OJSimpsonFS.

DalmerOS failed to gain ground due to unwanted eating of data.

...when using the OJSImpsonFS, or you might get fstab'ed to death!

All Reiser has to do is roll back the journal on his wife's deletion. Problem solved by superior software!

Did they check /lost+found?

If they really wanted to know where Nina is they would just look in his journal.

Oh well, maybe Hans will confess and reveal where he stashed the body now. Probably a blob, or maybe split under a well-balanced grove of trees. Even if he can't use the journal to recover the data, he should at least be able to get the last-modified date, right?

loulan


Wait, really?

I lost data with ext3 quite a few times, and when I switched to ReiserFS, it never happened again.

Fortunately we have ext4 now, but ReiserFS was a godsend back then.

wombleh

I used it on everything back in the day as it had journalling.

Have an outage on ext2 and you need a lengthy fsck scan that may not be able to recover, or recovers but end up with old files (also had sync related issues). Have an outage with reiser and it'll just boot straight back up without issue.

therealkupad


I have a project, that is only a few years old, that needed thousands of small files to be served up quickly. I could not get ext3 to work well for that scenario and switched to ReiserFS, which worked incredibly well. So, I do think there are scenarios where it\u2019s still useful. Wonder what I\u2019m gonna do instead

North_Month_215

Ah my first Linux file system! Back in the Mandrake 9 days.

If you had a raw reiserfs image inside a reiserfs filesystem the host fsck could mistake the data structures in the image as part of the host filesystem and destroy everything

ptoki


What is the point in keeping it?

Whats the point of removing it?

Sane people make reasons for action. Please reason the necessity of that removal

sidusnare


Wow. What a day. I used to use Reiser as my main filesystem. It was great, especially when my hacked together High School NAS failed and I tried to recover. Learned LVM with it.

I didn't waste time moving to XFS after it was apparent it wasn't some joke or mistake. Been great since.

toe hoe!

ElMachoGrande

It was a great file system, I liked it a lot. Then, the scandal happened, and I gradually phased it out from my machines.
dahippo1555

Farewell. Its sad seeing the legacy to go away.
cellul_simulcra8469

my personal favorite filesystem if ffs

The faggots that have taken over the HackerOS, and threw out all the Hackers, should be killed.

And the women too.

>>106131554
>If you had a raw reiserfs image inside a reiserfs filesystem the host fsck could mistake the data structures in the image as part of the host filesystem and destroy everything

Then don't do that.
Or pay the Russkies to fix it.

what is this thread

>>106131554
ReiserFS was a _GODSEND_.
Ext2 was a _terrible_ file system.

And Reiser was right, by God's law, to kill the adulterous whore. It is commanded.

The fact that you're dissing ReiserFS shows you are just looking up criticisms. Every one of us who used it loved it.

>>106131607
i thought it was a toe hoe thread but i guess not..

>>106131607
>what is this thread
A declaration of war against Anti-Reiser people.
AKA: feminists, anti-pedos, anti-russians(but I repeat myself), anti-hackers. And Linus Torvalds.

>>106131610
It is, I love cirno and reiserFS.
So post 2hus

Linux 6.11 was the last version with russians.
6.12 was the last version with reiserFS.

Linus needs to be killed.
He sold us out.
After using Hacker labour since 1993.

>>106131459 (OP)
Hello hacker friend.
How is the 6.16 Reiser5 patch going?
Should we expect it tomorrow?

abjumpr


I used it extensively in the 2.4 and 2.6 kernel days. Was a great filesystem.


mdins1980


I used back in those days too. It was a great file system. I remember how well it handled small files.

ElMachoGrande


I used it on a server until recently. Stopped installing it on new machines after the conviction, but left things which worked running as long as they worked.

It's still a good FS, but there are other which match it today. I especially like that it could put small parts of several files in a single block, which was very useful for me, as I had a shitload of small files, and so lost lots of space to partially filled blocks. It increased my effective disk space by about 40%.

the strong

>>106131480
You keep barking about Russians and attaching them to achievements they never had. Consider suicide.

>>106131669
>>>106131459 (OP) (OP)
>Hello hacker friend.
>How is the 6.16 Reiser5 patch going?
>Should we expect it tomorrow?
I'm a video game dev, not a kernel hacker.
You're mocking me and the collective efforts of the opensource hackers.

We cannot fight an uphill battle when our enemies are within our gates.

Except by killing them.
And I will kill you.
Do you understand me?

>>106131691
>>>106131480
>You keep barking about Russians and attaching them to achievements they never had. Consider suicide.

Russians wrote ReiserFS, Zoomer faggot. It was written in moscow.

I am going to ask the Russians to kill Linus. And to kill you aswell.

>>106131607
Some deranged schizo copypasting old slashdot posts.

God damn
Stay in your containment thread

>>106131669
I swear I will kill you.
You know very well I am not a kernel hacker.
You know very well that hackers are no longer welcome in the linux kernel.
You know very well that things didn't need to be "constantly maintained" when the hackers ruled linux from it's inception in 1993 till 2003 and onward.
The idea of constant churn and maitanance and depreciation (DEEEPREECIATED -- faggot voice), is a proprietary software development concept.
It used to never exist in opensource.

We had pride that our HackerOS ran on everything and especially old systems.
We each worked on our section of it.
I worked on games. From media, to scripting, to programming. And system admin tools.

>>106131705
>>>106131607
>Some deranged schizo copypasting old slashdot posts.
>>106131712

I _VOW_ to kill you people.
I've been using linux longer than you've been alive.
I've been programming on linux for the same amount of time.

I know what it was.
It was our collectivly developed hacker OS.
We had things others did not: PaX/Grsecurity which were developed by HOBBIEST HACKERS.

You claim Linux is corporate only.
But it is something you TOOK from US.
You've now divided us.
And you mock us
"HAHAHAH WHEN IS YOUR PATCH HAHHAHA"
"Oh you can't post to the LKML because we banned you, ooops guess no one will ever know"
"Sorry russians need not send patches for ReiserFS to us hahhhhaahaha"

etc.
You laugh.
But I will pray to YHWH that you are killed.
He's come through before.
I will also ask the kremlin.ru to do it.

>>106131712
You think you've won. You think you've scattered our free software community to the winds.

But we will physically kill you now.

>>106131729
LLM fail

i hate ziggers but i don't think the russkies should be banned. FOSS should be non political.

>>106131753
You can barely string a sentence together. You have a pathological deficit of attention. You need to shut the fuck up.

>>106132180
Agreed, but I won't give them credit for something they had nothing to do with. Especially not as a collective.

Jeremy Bicha is a bad person. Lunduke was right about him. The age of consent should be 21.