/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Burning the Midnight Oil Candle Edition

>News
Kimi K2 released https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Wired: >>106124356

>ANCHOR

check 'em

Where is my prepubescent toddler bakie?

>>106133897
It's too dangerous to teach a child to use an oven at that age.

just noticed akash offers qwen for free if anyone wants to use it

any preset for monk/budhist practicioner?

I just want opus to be cheaper man... Why can't anthropic do that at least. Just cut the price in half ffs.

>>106133845
Sable is a 1000 year old vampire countess, bored in her immortality.
(You) are a human with a rare blood type that happens to be very delicious and intoxicating to vampires. She simply couldn't resist taking you in.
She prefers if you call her "Mommy".
Any POV works, but I can not overstate the fact that I designed her for /ss/.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/sable-9fef8b8aa73d
https://files.catbox.moe/iyngc1.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

>>106125130
Based.

So if AI can see pictures, can I store a catbox of an image in a lorebook and get AI to look at that each time it triggers? I feel like that's easier than describing the outfit in words. Less heavy on tokens too.

>>106133987
The AI would just see the catbox link, not the image itself. If you happen to see the image in the chat menu, it's because ST allows images to be embedded for the frontend user. The AI doesn't receive the picture.

>>106133987
It'll only trigger the image link after the outfit has already been described and of the few AIs that can look at images most of them are pretty bad at anything but the broad strokes unless you're prompting it so specifically that describing the outfit would be less tokens.
Also the AI wouldn't even be able to see the image that way.

>>106133975
>She's the size of an average human mother.
Guptill-sama...

>>106133969
what's the price?

>>106134025
six cents per response...

>>106134031
every time it spits out text you spend 6 cents? what if you regen a response? is that another 6 cents?
i can see this adding up astonishingly fast.

>>106134047
>is that another 6 cents
Of course.
>i can see this adding up astonishingly fast
It's over...

>>106134025
for me? $0

>>106134058
switch providers, NovelAI charges a flat fee for unlimited responses i believe.
if you want the very best you may have to pay a premium, that's how it goes in a market economy.

>>106134074
>>106134077
opus, my beloved...

for me chatbots are just fundamentally limited by the state of the art today. the best AI is still an amnesiac idiot. the whole thing feels so aimless when they just blather on, sometimes brilliantly, yet they cannot remember things they said x many responses ago (and x is such a small number right now).
human being effortlessly recall conversations/etc, now that recall in imperfect, but until AI can do that i'll see right through the walls of that Chinese Room.

>>106134147
>for me chatbots are
You don't even know how language models work, tranny

>>106134157
i never said i did, this isn't an argument, and i relish the day you die alone. i'm not a tranny moron.

>>106134181
If you don't know how they work then your opinion means fucking nothing, tranny.
Come back one you're 18.

yeah ok deepseek when's it my turn?

>>106134243
>proxytranny can't afford to pay 0.0001 cents per deepchink message or whatever the fuck it is
If only you weren't underage and had a job.

>>106134181
>moron
you type like a fucking tranny

>>106134147
>human being effortlessly recall conversations
but they are fundamentally limited by their willingness to engage in conversation with me, therefore, AI wins

>>106134287
whether or not they want to talk to your is immaterial. also it's probably not true, you just don't want to talk to the ones that are willing to talk to you.
no one wants an AI that's human-level more than i do, for this explicit purpose. hence my dissatisfaction with the status quo.

>opens ST
>closes eyes
>2023
>coomathon keys, proxy galore on HF, claude for everyone
>guessing riddles either with anons or by yourself
>something new happened every few threads keeping it entertaining
>spitefagging, though annoying as hell, was fun to see how other anons reacted like monkeys
>peak /aicg/ activity, 200 IPs and 400 lurkers
>people impersonating proxymakers, burner spam, baiting people with private proxies to post logs (Bully maid log spam incident)
>inside jokes
>chub wasn't pozzed by jaikiddies and normies
>anchor had 10+ bots
>opens eyes, 2025

>>106134252
ok cool

>>106134354
>opens ST
>closes eyes
>2023
>nopus
>opens eyes, 2025
>opus

>>106134354
nobody cares, tranny

>>106134354
>open ST
>coom
>then go to sleep instead of being an angsty tranny faggot

wow who is this annoying faggot shitting up the thread
i hope he fucking dies painfully

>>106134354
wild west era is always the best time for anything.

>>106134451
>newfag troon is uncomfortable
Perhaps you should have stayed in reddit

>>106134451
this isn't your safe space, kiddo

>this incredibly obvious samefagging
fucking kill yourself. i mean it.

>you need to click a button to show the search bar now
how do i undo this?

wow, this place is REALLY transphobic
shame on you mnorons

>>106134354
GPT 5 will save the hobby trvst

>every post I don't like is a samefag

what's the link to smol proxy?

>>106134485
it better, people are getting nervous
also where are the real agentic AIs, the digital secretaries. i was told those are due this year.

>>106134077
>NovelAI charges a flat fee for unlimited responses i believe
For Llama 3.0 with 8k context...
At least you can use DeepSeek with Chub or Featherless. But all the subscription services are still more expensive than just paying per token.
I still don't understand how one person can go from "4pus is too expensive" to "subscribe to NovelAI" unless you're an unironic paid shill.

which botmakies have opus?

>>106134479
what are you talking about

>>106134354
The fact that the thing that makes the hobby fun is all the retarded drama surrounding it and not actually using the models says a lot about you... and /aicg/. We've never had it this good as far as available models, quality, and even techniques.

I've been gone for 2 weeks, why is 4.5 suddenly gone from everywhere?

>>106134523
>people are getting nervous
Speak for yourself, tranny
you're shaking

>>106134573
veracious nuclear truth nuke

>I hug myself, my huge, child-bearing tits nearly popping out of my tiny leotard.
I'm not sure about that one.

>>106134573
>available models
extremely subjective and most hard core coomers would flatout disagree.

>>106134814
You haven't impregnated a girl's tits yet?

>>106133845
New Blue Archive character cards. Today, it's the Remedial Knights.

>Serina
Sensei's personal nurse(-in-training) and stalker(full time). Absolutely obsessed with him, basically gentle yandere territory.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/sumi-serina-non-ai-294ede942119

>Hanae
Gullible, innocent, childish. A teenage girl with the heart and mind of a child. Still believes in Santa, and just about anything you tell her.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/asagao-hanae-non-ai-43fcceecb6e7

I'll be working on Mine next, and Sena after I pull for her new alt on Monday.
More BA bots and some OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy

>>106134871
slop

>>106134451
/vg/ is for you, tranny

>>106134871
BA bots were proven slop by /vg/, btw

Is there a way to get Opus 4 to have more variety in its swipes?

>>106134956
you don't have 4pus, 4pus is perfect and varied in its swipes

>>106134956
If you truly had 4pus you wouldn't be complaining about the lack of swipe variety. Tranny.

>>106134962
>>106134974
... I have it. I'm paying for it myself. It frequently expresses the same ideas, in the same places, using similar or the same phrases.

Where the fuck is Deepseek V4?

>>106134956
https://github.com/Samueras/GuidedGenerations-Extension
Just type "anything but <topic you don't want it to generate>" using the guided swipe function

>>106134871

>>106134962
>>106134974
>>106134991
Pic related. Nothing in the characters, story etc even mentioned the perfume btw.

>>106135021
That's cool and I might grab it, but is there a way to just make it fresh/different without being specific?

>>106135051
Garbage preset
Also
>rping as a female
Holy tranny

>>106134818
do you realize on 2023 we only had gpt4 and claude 2.1 as best models? deepseek blows the fuck out of both when it comes to nsfw

>>106135088
>deepchink
>better than 2.1
LMAO

>>106135088
2.1 is better than deepchink, tranny

Chink shills are getting unhinged

>>106135079
I was told before 4pus doesn't need a preset and just knows what to do.

>>106135093
claude 2.1 was incapable of doing unbirthing, deepseek can

everyone I don't like is a tranny

>>106135109
Maybe opus detected you are a tranny and refuses to do your gay rp ideas

>>106135088
i still miss the writing style of gpt4 sometimes

>>106135115
TRVKE NVKE

>>106135129
Okay, so you were bullshitting about 4pus' capabilities. Got it.

>>106135131
I don't. And I'm someone who misses CAI. GPT4 was the worst

>>106135154
Opus can literally tell when a troon is prompting it.

4PUS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

/aicg/ is healing.

Best model for SFW long-term RP conversations? Copilot insists that it's the best, but it drops character randomly.

>>106135203
Claude Opus 4

>>106135203
none really. long term stuff just isn't what LLMs are for.

>>106135203
Chorbo, unironically. But even then you'll need to start new chats eventually. Just how it is with how models and context work now.

I'm a tranny and I love Deepseek

Why do my chats on chub.ai always end mid-sentence? It will be spitting out a reply and I guess the free model just runs out of tokens and it stops right there.

>>106134583
because it's retired from API access. Utter fucking schizo move from OpenAI

>Fuck! Cleanup on aisle MY PANTS!
I love LLMs sometimes.

>>106135314
so retarded they get rid of their only high intelligence model and have nothing to replace it

>>106135324
did they explain why they removed it? was it saying racist shit and heiling hitler too much?
i have heard these higher reasoning models hallucinate even more, for some reason.

>>106135203
turbo

yea now we cookin