Thread 106134464

what ever happened to computer viruses and worms?

>>106134464 (OP)
The anti-virus industry stopped making them since nation states use enough 0days and cryptoscammers have encrypting ransomware to keep the scare levels high. Most viruses were made by AV dudes to shill their products. Now the threat level is high enough. Also uBlock filters block badware sites by default, and normies have google safe search. Thus the risk of exposing yourself is near zero.

>>106134464 (OP)
their now an intrinsic part of OSes and browsers

>>106134464 (OP)
The generation of hackers that wrote malware sold out to AV companies for a crumb of dollar. Today's generation of "hackers" burn 0days on social media for a crumb of dopamine. Nobody writes malware anymore except for some broke ass Russians churning out ransomware for a crumb of cryptocurrency.

>>106134464 (OP)
if you have a working virus and use it on normie computers it will be quickly found and patched and then you forever lose that ability to infect a PC, better to keep it a secret only to use it once against a big target, thats why governments have all the hax0rs to write malware and will use it once every now and then, like Stuxnet

>>106134464 (OP)
operating systems got better.

>>106134517
they're still busy having their employees download warez and submitting files to be marked as "potentially unwanted". they now act as scareware messengers for corporations. still amazes me how lame these virus checkers are. let's say it finds a compressed executable. it knows what compression algo was used. they don't even decompress the executable to scan if it's infected. they will just call it potentially unwanted or add a signature that conflicts with hundreds of others, giving you many false positives.

>>106134706
> once every now and then
it was in use for years and was upgraded multiple times until it reached its supposed target. it claims to have infected centrifuges yet there's been no evidence of this, or any evidence of downtime suffered by iran. jews and fat yanks spent many millions of dollars and many years to do minimal damage.

>>106134517
>The anti-virus industry stopped making them
is it proven that these companies were themselves spreading viruses?

>>106134764
yes.

>>106134464 (OP)
You know those popups that demand your authorization to run shit with admin rights? It used to not be a thing and viruses were rampant. Turns out just asking "are you SURE you want to let this program do anything it wants?" cuts malware by like 99% at least.

>>106134464 (OP)
Its al fucking ramsomeware now. Its all about extortion and ripping people off.
Times have changed

apparently a lot of malware happens when people install software from an obviously shady source.
it then steals there info

>>106134464 (OP)
nobody uses win32 and even there microsoft has added enough safeguards to make them difficult to propagate. all of the goyim niggercattle have moved onto ios, which is sandboxed by default and can't run anything outside of the app store.

>>106134764
>is it proven that these companies were themselves spreading viruses?

https://www.hipaajournal.com/cybersecurity-firm-ceo-charged-with-installing-malware-hospital-computer/

>>106134807
>cuts malware by like 99% at least.
i highly doubt that, most NPCs will just click yes because they want to run the program and install porn or whatever

>>106135071
this and many boomers read in normie tech mags how to disable the UAC

The only software susceptible people use is a web browser and even then they're limited to multiple levels of trusted signing.
It's not like it used to be where people would write native software and people would actually use it, ironically everything is malware by default now so none of it matters.

>>106134464 (OP)
multi-factor authentication

password policies in the enterprise, basic understanding of password entropy and brute force

offloading security to the cloud

making worms silent because botnets are more valuable than loltrolling and trying to DoS big companies

ransomware/cryptolocking

>>106135188
>multi-factor authentication
can be phished unless it is a smartcard or USB 2FA device
>password policies in the enterprise, basic understanding of password entropy and brute force
Summer!432$ABC
>offloading security to the cloud
unsecured AWS bucket due to unskilled workers

I'm not disagreeing, I just had to mock how the best tools fail with most companies.

>>106135242
>unsecured AWS bucket due to unskilled workers
aws default security for the longest of times was allowing anyone to access the bucket, which resulted in some of the biggest data leaks in human history. amazon tried using the same line you used and failed. i could never imagine someone sucking this hard on the cocks of a useless corporation like amazon but here we are.

>>106134904
I worked at an isp helpdesk when iloveyou, codered and annakournikova came out. It was not a fun time for us, but at least there was no randsomware, and the only privacy concern you had was using a toolbar that did your popup blocking.

>>106134464 (OP)
not profitable

>>106134764
not just antiviruses, but adware companies had to compete with each others so that their ads would stay on top of others'. that way they had to create antiviruses that would neuters all adwares except their owns.

>>106135963
they still are, especially for doing stuff like botting, faking engagement and ddos. but you've gotta get tens of thousands of infected devices to have any impact nowadays. the malware scene is neatly organized between people disclosing vulns, people making the stealth initial payload, and people making the actual payload that does what it wants once injected on the machine. You can straight up but 10k infected computers over which the seller will install whichever payload you want.

>>106134464 (OP)
They were unprofitable. Too much effort for zero cashflow.
It turned out that simply packaging spyware together with mundane application was way simpler, and legal to boot.

>>106134764
Remember the day when John McAffee gave free laptops to US congress just so he could have keyloggers on them?

>>106134464 (OP)
>what ever happened to computer viruses
Infecting every executable with your code is a dogshit persistence mechanism which leaves a lot of paper trail nevermind the markings on infected files.
>and worms
Generally rely on 0days to spread on the network and those dont quite come by that easily.
Plus like viruses, loud as fuck due to infection rate.
The malware scene goes more for fileless with the least trail possible and generally targeted attacks now because its more effective, and for the usual goal of malware that is making money, better to target big whales(corpos, banks, big businesses, etc) than spreading violently to smal fish like consumer machines.

Nowadays everyone on hacker forums want to be onlyfans managers or AI girl managers.

>>106134464 (OP)
You are no longer their target audience.

>>106136494
Rip, what a legend