Because of China Russia and Iran.

Hey I've seen this before, ca 2001 when Americans gave up their rights via the Patriot Act.

if i don't give my id to multiple corporations in league with foreign governments, then foreign governments win!!!!

anyway how much should i give to israel today?

>>106139903
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks

maybe the normies shouldn't have made the internet serious business

>>106139857 (OP)
>We must doxx ourselves and guarantee that China and Russia will have all our data on top of becoming like China and Russia because... China and Russia.

>>106139857 (OP)
lies?
on the internet?
how will we cope?!

>any concept of "we do that ourselves" is like a gnat in comparison
jesus fucking christ

>>106139857 (OP)
>muh foreign interference
If your democracy can be toppled just by a few Russians spreading spicy memes on social media then it wasn't a democracy worth saving anyway.

>it's about a foreign adversary seeking to pretend to be a domestic
that's kind of xenophobic and anti-Semitic...

>>106139957
I think Glownigger quality has dropped ever since this administration came into power. It must be the end result of having so many yes-men.

>>106140014
Not to mention half of our own tech companies routinely sell us out every election like what happened with cambridge analytica

what's the fucking point of me having to fuck my security and privacy over when the gatekeepers cannot wait to sell out on my behalf and only get slaps on the wrist when they do it? This is literal feudalism where a lord's peasants get punished because the lord broke the law.

>>106139857 (OP)
ok... so... is Israel a foreign actor?

>>106140056
read the line about the gnat

>>106139857 (OP)
He won't even put jews on that list...

>>106140025
There was some embarrassingly bad glownigger activity during the last election cycle but yeah the quality drop post election is by far the worst one yet. If that's the best they have just shut the clown show down and at least save us all the money Jesus fucking Christ...

>>106139857 (OP)
Makes no sense. The same governments have let foreign actors in by the millions. They are in every level of every organization.

>>106140125
>last election cycle

>>106139857 (OP)
So, why not build a national firewall akin to Great Firewall of China?
You could out-right block egress traffic to adversary countries. "Force" users that want to connect to banned IPs to purchase VPNs if they so desire.
You could also block ingress traffic. I imagine Western entities would be happy knowing their firewall logs aren't spammed by Russia or Iran every second of the day. "Force" foreign entities that want to work in the West to only use Western services. Something like China's Joint-Partnership setup. Access to Western markets = Obey Western Regulation.
I feel like the West has such an ability. It just has to accept financial losses. I imagine America could pull this off. Isn't most American economic input/output domestic? Whip up nationalist fervor and block bad countries; boom Americans would say "Axis of Evil" deserves it. Europe...maybe. Would need to be more independent from America though. Unless they share a 'common' firewall with Westerns. Australia...Japan, SK...some other Western-aligned nations probably would have connect with US, or work to be independent.

I imagine the West won't do this because then foreign entities would just block access to the West. Maybe the West wants their side of the Internet open because they feel morally superior? Open society vs closed society? I have my doubts the West is that concerned about hypocrisy.
Basically, the GOV ID setup to block foreign agents seems excessive. Just force Western business, like VPN services, to not accept foreign monies. Maybe not log (though I'm sure the Gov will try!), but simply check if the IP is not in the Geopolitical West. If not in range, block!

>>106140462
It's very simple. The west is losing the economic war against China and is therefore trying to tighten the leash before civil unrest sets in. Don't give the retard in the op image more credit than he deserves.

>>106139857 (OP)
I do not consider "keeping China/Russia/Iran out" a valid reason to attempt to control the Internet.

uh you need to give your ID to tiktok so china doesnt get it... okay? uhh... yeah that doesnt make sense but its still true, chuddie

>>106139857 (OP)
>we need to risk our privacy because I'm retarded

>>106139857 (OP)
>nvidia age check mysteriously stops working in sanctioned countries

>>106139903
>anyway how much should i give to israel today?

>>106140680
>we're in economic war with china, by sending there all the production facilities that were previously on american soil

>>106139857 (OP)
funny how its all projection of things the CIA/Mossad have done same shit with Israel accusing the Palis of the crimes the Israelis themselves committed. How can someone be so oblivious to the truth?

>>106141594
anon.. that hasn't been a thing for over a decade now.

>>106141643
I guess that's because there's nothing left to send there anymore.

Youtube is overrun with them. I keep seeing broken English comments about how "I'm not going to die for Taiwan/Ukraine/Israel" or how amazing Chinese manufacturing is and how "our own domestic manufacturing can't compare." As if the speaker is American. They're all the top voted comments too.

>>106141720
Maybe people really do not want to die for Taiwan/Ukrain/Israel?

If you want to die for them, you have the choice to do so right now.
If you need any help while enlisting, go to >>>/k/meg or write your question here. We support you in your dream of dying for a foreign country from the other side of the world.

>>106141762
No no no, you don't understand. I personally do not want to die for those foreign countries. I am way too important, I will hold the line on the internet!
But people from my country should get conscripted to die there!
And everybody who disagrees with this, is obviously a Chinese / Russian / Iranian shill.

>>106141762
i prefer to die for islam

>>106141762
I don't give a shit what some chink faggot or sandnigger thinks. Stop pretending to be american faggot. Stop trying to influence our foreign policy faggot. I hope you and the jews wipe yourselves out

>>106141791
this is the final cope before you get redpilled on the reality that all of this is happening because the ruling class actually wants it to happen. Its easier to believe in a foreign adversary subverting us because if that was just brought to light and corrected then we could go back on course. But its not true. Theres a famous piece of propaganda the soviets used to explain a famine. Capitalists had airdropped the dreaded Colorado Potato Beatle and it was destroying all the crops. So schoolchildren were brought out to the fields to fight the capitalists by stomping on bugs. You and I can look at this and see how ludicrous it was. Obviously the soviets had more direct control over what happened in the soviet union than anyone in the west. They were just covering up their own incompetence and malice with propaganda.

But you're doing the same thing when you say the uniparty is controlled by foreign adversaries. Obviously, there are spies and corruption and bribes, just like how in the soviet union they had western spies and corruption. But saying its all coming from overseas is like blaming the israeli potato beetle. Our home crown death cultist oligarchs are more than sufficient to explain whats happening.

>Peter "Suck Dick Much??" Thiel talking point
Hey Pete, why don't you bayonet charge Choina, I'll be right behind you, just watch this drive, also does China run the banks and government? yeah didn't think so

fag

>>106139873
funnily enough, it coincides with the end of the peak of human civilization and everything going downhill since

Why Was Ghislaine Maxwell A Super Moderator On Reddit With So Much Karma She Was Top 10 Users On The Whole Site. Don't Believe Me? Just Google u/MaxwellHill

>>106139857 (OP)
amerimutts are so funny. always thinking that your problems are unique, because you are snowflakes. this guy has no clue that other countries already have IDs yet foreign glowies and gangs are still able to fuck with laws.
also, he seems to know a lot about glowie activities. maybe he's projecting?

>the internet is dead because foreign interests use it to destroy our societies and AI will replace everything
>so now we need digital id which we sneak in by calling it the online safety kid protector bill to kill 4chan
our governments are so intelligent and powerful

>>106141989
>Our home crown death cultist oligarchs are more than sufficient to explain whats happening
This is true but it's legitimately a thousand times worse than it could be specifically because of influence of the Zionist kike lobby

>>106141762
>Up to 20,000 foreigners have already joined!
I wonder how many of those have died already.
there was a TV show in my country that talked about this. the guys said the ukrainian foreign legion offered a lot of money... but they found out it was almost impossible to get it without dying.
also, apparently a good % of those who went to invade Kursk were foreigners, and many of them died there kek

>>106139857 (OP)
so wait, I should give out my privacy cause some morons might get swayed by russian and chinese trolls? Are they literally trying every angle they can think of to see what sticks with the various demographics?

>>106139857 (OP)
Maybe if our governments weren't actively acting against us, it wouldn't be so easy for china/russia/iran to spread disinformation.

If there’s too much pushback, by the people, against a digital I.d. future, then digital planes will fly into digital buildings and that will be the end of the current version of the internet as we know it.

>>106139857 (OP)
So how does it fight foreign adversaries to have ID?
>>106139957
>>106140010
Just because someone is authoritarian doesnt mean they are some paid CIA/FBI shill/agent
some people are just like that

Americans would rather implement Internet ID rather than federal nationwide voter ID.

>>106143839
you need to be a citizen to register to vote, and republicans dont want national id to be easy to get

>>106144399
Last year they blamed the democrats.
>mfw I live in a third world country that has a more robust electoral system than the best country of the world
America is a meme country.

What are YOU doing to stand up against the digital gulag?

>>106141884
I prefer to die for my jewish masters.

The US government are basically rapists

>>106140462
the future is a battle between
>china
and
>china, but gay

>>106141884
At least Muslims aren't against "goyim" marrying women (women who can still have children that is) :^)

>>106139857 (OP)
that post glow so bright

>>106144785
that's a nice cope but he still needs to pay taxes unless he renounces his citizenship

>>106139857 (OP)
>we gave your industry and technology to forign countries who decided they wouldnt be loyal to us after we made them (and ourselves) rich so now you have to humiliate yourself so we know whose on our side because we wont stop letting forigners enter our country because it deppresses your wages and keeps you powerless. just compromise with us. we get what we want, and you get to be tricked into believing you also got what you kinda wanted. this is serious guys :D

i hope the russians and chinese invade my country and eliminate the existing ruling class. i dont care if i have to pay my taxes in rubles or rmb instead of dollars. Absolutely nothing will change for me.

i went to the forest to relax today, a state park. and the entire time i kept running into solo male jeets just wandering around, looking for children to leer at and women to rape. it completely ruined my day knowing that there will be a crime reported later on, and that the jeet will be covered for by the media, and that if i was simply allowed to defend my country from forigners it would never have had to happen.

>>106141594
the arrogant cuckholds in charge didnt think the chinese would be smart enough to reverse engineer everything, they geniunly believed that at some point they could just replace all the niggers and spics with robots/ai and automate their way to victory. but the jeets jerked them off for decades with false promises and oops now we cant build basic infustructure anymore sorry sarrr pls do be giving of more h1visas :D

>>106142910
zionist jews think they can rebuild the third temple to summon forth the messiah and become the rules of 7 billion goyim, with thousands of slaves given to each jew

zionist christcucks think they can rebuild the third temple and bring forth the anti-christ which will then activate some magic teleportation spell which will instantly send all the good christcucks directly to heaven (rapture) while everyone else gets to burn in hell (now earth)

>>106142819
the real reason oldfag 4channers hated reddot was because reddot use to be the clearnet version of childporn hub with hundreds of subs dedicated to sharing illegal content, including rl gore/snuff/cannibalism/ect. oldfag 4channers were primarily high minded libertarians, while reddoters were degenerate libertines.

>>106139857 (OP)
HN is unsalvageable.

>>106140025
The entire internet quality dropped since the jeet invasion, even the chink bot farms were smarter than the current crop. 4chan has at least 2 competent jeets, for example, but the rest of them are streetshitter tier.
Mass immigration and DEI has destroyed any competence the glowniggers had whether from complacency or what have you.

>>106140211
>Create the problem and offer the solution
A very typical strategy in modern politics.
>Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Just add creating the crisis from the distrust you've sewn. There's a term for when these types of strategies come to head though.
>Sew the wind. Reap the whirlwind.

>>106140211
>Create the problem and offer the solution
A very typical strategy in modern politics.
>Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Just add creating the crisis from the distrust you've sewn. There's a term for when these types of strategies come to head though.
>Sow the wind. Reap the whirlwind.

>>106140056
That's antisemitic.

>>106139873
Time really is a fucking wheel and these mongoloids will fall for it every single time.
>We need the five minutes of hate to deter bad actors from spreading misinformation online!

>>106139873
>>106145960
The UK is obsessed with Russia right now. They actually believe they are about to be invaded they are completely delusional.

>>106139857 (OP)
The first half is absolutely correct.
Fuck ID checks and shit, though. All you're doing is having people turn off their brains more.
>this was posted by someone with a verified ID, it must be more credible than the wild west of no verification
Stop it. Stop being lazy. Stop encouraging lazy thinking.

>>106139857 (OP)
>muh foreign actors bad
It's literal us vs them tribal mentality. Goes both ways, results in idiocy and goolag.
On a side note foreign actors have friends at home. THEY don't need plebian tools like vpns.

>>106139857 (OP)
Wow what a fucking cuck. I hate HN so much sometimes.

>>106139857 (OP)
We musts have government ID, so we can firewall non-citizens doing influence operations. Sorry thirdie.

They are just making their risk surface bigger.

Why dont we just range ban these countries globally?

>>106140059
>read the line about the gnat
?

>>106145709
You're in the middle of the woods.
You can just kill them.
Jeet muscle builders are men that can lift a 15lb dumbbell.
You could snap their neck with basically zero effort

>>106139873
Remember when the glowniggers literally imprisoned the CEO of a major regional ISP because he didn't want to play ball with their illegal spying?
I remember.
I also remember he was the only one who really said "by what legal authority do you want me to do any of this?" and literally everyone else just rolled over.

>>106145987
No we don't retard.

>>106139857 (OP)
>20+ million illegals in america living under stolen identities
>there's no way a foreign intelligence agency could achieve the same thing

>>106139857 (OP)
what a definitely neutral and not glowing person.

>>106139857 (OP)
They can turn your thoughts into text and have a legion of spy satellites at their disposal - we're already worse than any foreign boogeyman.

>>106147849
>Remember when the glowniggers literally imprisoned the CEO of a major regional ISP because he didn't want to play ball with their illegal spying?
source

>>106139903
spbp

>>106140125
the current glowies are new hires
the old ones died of vaxxmaxxing

>>106145537
is this the reality of americans. do all of you, ass soon as you hit 18, submit random papers to the IRS? do you note every pack of gum with and without tax you buy at the store?

In europe, if you do not own a car, land or house, you do not pay tax. Not you directly. Your employer pays, 'tax' is included in the price of common goods.

hell i've seen construction workers depositing tens of thousands of dollars into their bank account, while being unemployed from the perspective of the state. they never had to file any shit with the eu's IRS.

>>106139857 (OP)
The recent push is because the war with Hamas made Jews realize zoomers hate them and their propaganda doesn't work anymore.
The point is to have any "antisemitic" opinion online (which will be defined as any non-cosmetic disagreement with Israeli policy) will end up in criminal prosecution (Europe, Canada) or extreme extralegal and professional consequences in usa (no prison, but being fired, rejected from having a bank account, refused from having any credit, banned from flying on any American airline, etc etc).

In a perverse way the American outcome will be worse, because codified punishments will be fixed, and once they are done then they will be over. In the American case the unofficial blacklist will last forever.

>>106139857 (OP)
What should be banned is online discussions about politics. Not porn. Kind of what 4chan was like before /pol/, but even stricter. NO politics.

The internet should be about entertainment (movies, sports etc) shopping and porn only. Nothing serious. No politics, maybe not even news.

>>106139923
>>106139903
>>106139857 (OP)
Hackernews is full of genuine retards. Never go there.

>>106139857 (OP)
Reddit trannies want government id on internet to censor people

>>106156079
color me surprized