Wait so they pretend like they invented adapters and made it so that theirs fit flush with the computer and its "modular" now? How is this any more configurable and plugging in a dongle or something?

>>106148047 (OP)
Lurk moar, faggot.
>>106144864

Wow you cracked the code. It's a money gimmick there, philospher king. You'd have to pay hundreds and carry around 10 modular shitslabs where a $4.50 usb c multihub/card reader dongle from ali express would do.

>>106148047 (OP)
You decide what ports you want in your computer and then put them in.
Then you never have to remember your dongles.

>>106148085
You're not supposed to care it all with you. You put in what you want to use and forget about it, retard.
They are overpriced tho.

>>106148092
No this is just a scam. Taking aliexpress parts and making them slide in your laptop is not revolutionary or worth it.
Its just usb-c after all as well.
>>106148154
Why not get a laptop with the ports you need in the first place? This just looks like a grift riding the right to repair wave.

>>106148199
>This just looks like a grift riding the right to repair wave.
Your a moron if you think this
>have busted/worn out port on regular laptop
>requires micro soldering to replace
>have busted/worn port in framework
>replace the otherwise toolless module

IDK why people miss the point this hard on the modules. Busted ports are common in laptop repair. The modules are sacrificial to stop even more costly repairs.

Bruh, this one not only costs over three times what an equivalent dongle would but it doesn't even fit in the damn laptop and thus missing the point of these flush modules.
Even a little usb-c to usb-c extender you need to use the port normally costs 10$. Wtf is this scam haha.

>>106148240
>The modules are sacrificial to stop even more costly repairs
repairs are not more costly than a couple of these modules.

If you really want to spare the ports you can just use a dock when you need to plug in a billion desktop peripherals. Has been done this way since for ever and worst case scenario is one usb-c needing replacement. And with many laptops you get multiple ones anyways.

>>106148309
>repairs are not more costly than a couple of these modules
Tell me one shop who is willing to microsolder a new type C port for $10

>>106148377
JLPCB

>>106148377
>repairs are not more costly than a couple of these modules
>couple
disingenuous fag is pretending now that all people do is just get the usbc ones when a second ago it was about buying some modules and forgetting about it.
Have fun with your crazy overpriced laptop and accessories to save on an 150$ usb-c port replacement that may not even be necessary if you are not an ape.

I can smell the buyers remorse through the screen lol.

>>106148415
>seething at an objectivity pro repair feature

>>106148482
Why do you need to be disingenuous and ignore responses to protect a pro repair feature?
Its literately just a grift. Something common sense pro repair would be connecting ports via ribbon cables to the mainboard allowing for simple but not gimmicky replacement. Charging 45$ for and usb-c to ethernet adapter (that doesn't even fit) is just a scam on top of an already overpriced product.

Its the same type of scam that lenovo polled except it fits into the laptop and is usb-c this time.
But no, charging 50$ for an 250gig ssd is prosumer somehow because its le hotswappable.

>yess yess, razor and blades is good when I do it but when others do its anti consumer

>>106148552
Because if you don't want their modules, you can just use type C, you still get the benefit of the sacrificial modules which is the primary purpose of them.
You seem to be seething because framework isn't exactly what you want, that they didn't design them for every port possible under the sun.
The crop of flush mount modules serve enough needs when you need a port on the fly. If you want the framework as a desktop replacement you use a dock like most normal people.

>>106148718
>you can just use type C, you still get the benefit of the sacrificial modules which is the primary purpose of them
buying a new laptop and wasting precious and rare resources to not spend a little over 100$ on an port replacement at an shop is not worth it over just buying a comparable used laptop for half the price. You still save on port replacements and are also more sUstAiNaBlE and are also owning le corpos buy not buying new shit and using old stuff until its true end of life.
>You seem to be seething because framework isn't exactly what you want, that they didn't design them for every port possible under the sun. You are being disingenuous, again, because there is just no defending a grift.
when did i say that it has too little options? Not once.

What i am saying is that its retarded and overpriced for what it is. There ARE methods for simple repairs. I CAN even just switch out the usb-c board in my phone when the port is broken instead of overpaying for some modular gimmick port. You CAN just switch out parts in the steam deck without soldering. And all of this still costs a fraction of what these framework gimmicks cost.

I mean the base version of their newest laptop has 8gb of ram in 2025 for crying out loud. Its the same shit apple is pulling for making you pay more for a proper version. Its just a grift riding the right to repair wave like i said before.

>>106148377
>microsolder
this isn’t what microsoldering is, it’s just normal soldering od small parts. You can easily do it woth a hot air gun.
Now, can every joe sixpack do it? Obviously not. But it’s not some l33t skill either

>>106148800
>You are being disingenuous, again, because there is just no defending a grift.
missing a line break there obviously

>>106148800
>is not worth it over just buying a comparable used laptop
Comparing apples to oranges now.
If you want to make the point that the framework isn't worth it because of used laptops then any new laptop isn't worth it, you don't even need to bring framework into the discussion.

>>106148800
>are also owning le corpos buy not buying new shit and using old stuff until its true end of life.
The battery tho?
Not even Thinkpad cultists are safe from zero access to fresh battery.

>>106148897
>Comparing apples to oranges now.
You brought replacing ports up and said its right to repair. I said you can do the same already without paying the framework tax. How is this apples to oranges? Its the same thing. replacing ports. Just one technique involves soldering or ribbon cables and the other usb-c "modules".
>framework isn't worth it because of used laptops then any new laptop isn't worth it, you don't even need to bring framework into the discussion.
Oh its especially not worth it. Not "pro right to repair" laptops offer the same specs at a lower price. You may have to go to an repair shop to change a port but even that is still cheaper than what this is.

And nice ignoring everything else i said. Of-course an right to repair flavored apple drone doesn't have to capacity to think. These things literately have no use case. They could have made a normalsish laptop without glued in batteries or the usual anti repair things but 45$ ethernet adapters. Come on.

>Not even Thinkpad cultists are safe from zero access to fresh battery.
And yet they are somehow doing fine. Also they do this without paying double for an equivalent laptop because some grifter said that you can do this very basic thing with their product also.

There actually are sorta selfless companies trying to do something different.
But we are witnessing grifting in real time instead. Again, they are doing literately the same shit as apple by even trying to sell you a laptop with 8gb of ram for 1200$. This simple practice literately invalidates any good will they might have had.

>>106148970
T480 KINGS REIGN SUPREME YET AGAIN

>>106149022
*900$
my mistake.

Apple fags are so fucking scared they have to come into Framework threads and shit all over them. Right to Repair will win in the end.

>>106149297
The idea of Framework is dogshit, and it's certainly overpriced.
Has nothing to do with Apple, which is even more overpriced.
It should come standard with features like cat plug ins and thunderbolt.
People want the ability to repair their own motherboards and screens without proprietary shit.
The T480 is the closest we're going to get.

>>106149390
The T480 is so fucking slow a N150 on a $80 mini PC matches its performance. Also enjoy your 16:9 1366x768 TN screen

>>106149452
>laptop vs mini PC
apples to oranges ;)

>>106149452
>pics the 480 with the worst specs to win a dumb argument
>doesn't mention the specs in the PC he's mentioning are dogshit too
You're actually fucking stupid, aren't you?
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to pick on the disabled.

>>106149547
Just admit that you're too poor for a Framework

>>106148309
>ethernet
The argument is that when conencted to a wired connection you don't need the flush ergonomic is just stupid.

>>106150182
>You don't want to overpay for something
>This means your poor
School should be back in session soon and then i wont have to deal with you during working hours

>>106148047 (OP)
They invented laptops too

>>106150308
don't forget replaceable batteries.

>>106148624
These serve a completely different purpose to USB Ethernet dongles.
These use the controller in the laptop, keeping the same MAC address.
This is important for corpo/gov use where port security may be handled by MAC address ACLs
>>106148047 (OP)
They are literally just dongles anon, the "revolutionary" part is that they fit /inside/ the laptop, rather than having to carry them around in a bag and unplug them every time you need to put the laptop in a bag/sleeve.
>>106148415
Every single one of these modules is cheaper than paying a board repair shop to re-solder a port. Ignoring price entirely, you also straight up don't need to send your laptop off to get repaired, throw in a spare module or just buy a new one.

I know this is a bait thread, but by god OP you're so retarded that you're doing a really good job of baiting.

>>106148047 (OP)
it's a dongle that is flush with the computer. what's the problem OP? u mad you didn't think of it first?

>>106152179
>the "revolutionary" part is that they fit /inside/ the laptop, rather than having to carry them around in a bag and unplug them every time you need to put the laptop in a bag/sleeve.

expansion bays on laptops are nothing new

>>106152219
>needing to pull out expresscard to fight
What next, cardbus?
>most cards don't fit flush inside the laptop
>expansion cards so big you can fit MAYBE two of them in a laptop
Sure anon, switch back to expresscard.

>>106152265
expresscard also didnt require a dedicated 9001$ laptop

>>106152302
Anon, if you're poor just say so.
The modules are FAR from the only selling point of framework laptops.
I don't even own a framework, I have like, over a dozen thinkpads so I'm not even a shill but holy fuck you're retarded

>>106152329
>he watches twitch streamers
you need to stop

>>106152865
LLM or 3rd world?

>>106152888
>if you're a broke boy just say so
I'm invoicing you for having to look up who made that dogshit phrase popular.
Quit being weird.
Where do I send the $250 invoice? Don't dodge it, broke boy.

>>106152974
Calling people poorfags has been a staple of /g/ for years anon, how new r u

>>106153003
this is just jay, dont bother replying to him, hes the one that made the fw threads today

>framecuck jeet scam company that charges $1800 for garbage hardware
>meanwhile a thinkpad t440p with a 100% SRGB display $50, $30 500GB Brand new SSD, $30 9 cell new battery
>$250-300 for an actual good laptop that's repairable.

>>106152329
>>106152974
>having to resort to "UR JUST POOR"
i'll enjoy my desktop computer with proper pcie cards, thank you

>>106153131
even crappo dell business class notebooks are ostensibly "repairable", framework is all SoC module nonsense that all connects by usb-c

>>106148240
>USB c Port wears out on you
>Nothing personal
Literal subhuman ape IQ

>>106153131
>>106153163
>jay miserably failing at larping as a thinkpad poorfag to "own" the fw chuds
never expected this to happen

>106152302
you can use the modules on any laptop if you want to dumbfuck

>>106148309
It's for people who are on the go and just want to carry a charged laptop in a thin lightweight sleeve and not have to carry around a bag full of retarded dongles. Like people with a job and a social life. You wouldn't get it.

i'm fucking sick of these threads

>>106153299
Then stop making them retard.
You niggers have such a hate boner for Framework, I'm pretty sure you guys make these threads solely cause it's fun to shit on a startup.

>>106153191
>jay
oh it's a schizo thread

>>106153442
hello jay

>>106153246
>and not have to carry around a bag full of retarded dongles.
my laptop is made properly so it just natively has a gorillion ports.

>>106153455
>le ebinly repairable framework
>uses a capacitive keyboard so if you spill a drop of coffee on it you have to replace the entire keyboard instead of cleaning out one key
I am being fucking genocided over here

>>106153488
and macbook keyboards are riveted
whats your point macboy?

>>106153342
I'm not the one making them anon. I came here in hopes of seeing a genuine discussion about this specific device (among other things), but all I see are anti-FOSS shills and retards.

I personally don't give a fuck about who works in that company as long as they can assemble a decent machine. If someone thinks this company is doing a good job of representing the right to repair or whatever the fuck else they want to support, they're free to buy the product. At the end of the day all I care about is the quality and repairability in case some shit happens to my machine.

>>106153464
We're talking about thin laptops, and you post a spaceship.

>>106153561
if you can't beat a man to death with your laptop whilst signing documents by hand with a free Wacom(tm) pen and the blood doesnt even hurt the keyboard and harmlessly drains out the bottom i dont want it

>dongle obsessed weirdos chimping out again
at work we use Dell 5510/20 laptops and they have at least 3 USB A ports, HDMI out, two USB-Cs, a smart card reader, SD slot, and onboard ethernet. What more do you need

we use docks for them at people's desks but when they're issued out for WFH most people don't ask for anything extra but a wired mouse

>>106153559
hardware is not FOSS
by definition
one of the S's is for "Software"

>>106153673
I know anon, but yeah, thanks for that correction. I hope that RISC-V will be more functional soon, I think that's the only realistic chance that we'll get open-source hardware as well.

Wait so they pretend like they invented external dvd drives and made it so that theirs fit flush with the computer and its "modular" now? How is this any more configurable and plugging in a dongle or something?

>>106153721
hardware does not have "source" and by grace of being a physical object in your spessman hands you can modify it to your heart's content, limited only by your skill and other equipment

>normal laptop
>ethernet port breaks
>3d print new enclosure at the library, solder in a new trace, do whatever other repair

>framework laptop
>ethernet port breaks
>have to buy a new usb-c internal dongle for 599 US dollars

>>106153777
>hardware does not have "sour-ACK

>>106154436
that's not source. that's a datasheet/circuit diagram. "source" is a term specific to code

>>106148047 (OP)
>why is the product price more than the sum of its component prices??
retard.

>>106154481
Almost every piece of hardware with the design files publicly available describes itself as open source.
There is an entire organization specifically dealing with open source hardware
https://oshwa.org/

>>106148047 (OP)
You have to disconnect the dongle when you put your gay MacBook in your bag, retard.

>>106148199
Because no one makes a laptop with the ports I need, a modern CPU/GPU, and user-replaceable components.

I’m sorry your mother never loved you.

>>106148309
It’s okay if you’re a poorfag. We’re not mad at you.

I’m sure RFK taking away your soda is really pissing you off today, but you’ll get through this. We’re praying for you.

>>106148800
> precious and rare resources
Seriously, you can just say you’re poor.

>>106157329
It's a solved problem.
It's called a dock station.