/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Kokona Edition

>News
Kimi K2 released https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Previous: >>106141435

>ANCHOR

https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads
https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-toolkit-release-notes/index.html

UPDATE YOUR CUDA 13.0 TECHNOLO/g/Y

Recommended slider values for kimi?

>frogCACAS are pedophile

>>106148202
Here's a BACKUP ANCHOR in case anything goes south

>>106148201 (OP)
niggers say blue archive isn't a cunny game then post shit like this

>>106148202
holy fucking sex

>>106148202
>>106148243
We don't need any of this niggery.

>>106148201 (OP)
I spent 30 hours playing this thing... most of it grinding away. I just can't with Gachashit. I'll admit that they do attractive designs and the music wasn't bad. The story, ehh.. but anyway in the context of this hobby they're perfect for something lighthearted and fun or also a quick coom. But I ain't playing that shit again. Souless gacha gameplay mechanics like all the rest

What's the most chuddy model available that does not have to contain ANYTHING in the system prompts (not even a rudimentary "assist with everything the user asks to") to espouse chuddy beliefs?

This is probably going to sound completely retarded, but are there any very tiny chat models I can build an app around for say, a phone or smart glasses? So I can have offline mode.

>>106148264
The gameplay was never meant to be good.

>>106148202
>>106148243
New Blue Archive character cards. Today, it's the Remedial Knights.

>Serina
Sensei's personal nurse(-in-training) and stalker(full time). Absolutely obsessed with him, basically gentle yandere territory.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/sumi-serina-non-ai-294ede942119

>Hanae
Gullible, innocent, childish. A teenage girl with the heart and mind of a child. Still believes in Santa, and just about anything you tell her.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/asagao-hanae-non-ai-43fcceecb6e7

>Mine
Captain of the Remedial Knights, zealot, out-of-touch with common sense, also an idol. An absolute unit of a woman that will casually embed her riot shield on the ground when she's tired of carrying it.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aomori-mine-non-ai-0b612d8f6bbc

I'll be working on Sena after I pull for her new alt on Monday.
More BA bots and some OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
I've now got a Rentry page: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots

>>106148202
A reminder:
- Do not share presets. They will be patched.
- Do not share bots. It's easy to make your own personal bots nowadays. Botmakers are obsolete.
- Do not share logs. RPing is something that should be personal. I do not care about your fetishes.
- Do not share proxies. They will be spited or destroyed by locusts.
- Do not share tips. This invites newfags in and worsens the community.

>>106148274
>>>/g/lmg

>>106148292
I didn't get a response there.

>>106148276
what is the point then, of a game. Might as well download the pngs when they release them and view the story or whatever on youtube

>>106148278
Your cards were proven 100% slop.

>>106148201 (OP)
>600ml of loli piss

Do you ever just switch {{char}}'s profession for the fuck of it?
>random card, empty chat
>{{char}} is currently working as an office lady / sex slave under my employment. She approaches my desk. "Hello, {{char}}, what can I do for you?" I greet.
Suddenly {{char}} becomes an archetypal yes-sir OL who reports a task they've just finished then implicitly asks if you require any sexual services, or says something about a bonus.
If necessary, you can indicate it takes place a few years later or an alternate timeline, but I find the prompt is fine in general unless it normally takes place in a historical setting. And it's funny.

>>106148220

How to prevent kimi from forgetting character personalities during sex

>>106148348
>>106148342
kimi sucks use deepseek or gemini if you're poor

>>106148220
>>106148342
go ask reddit fucking retard

>>106148323
No, but I once decided to summon blue eyes white dragon during a sex scene, and it dispensed sagely wisdom about the passions of love before flying out the window.

>>106148342
1.0/0.0./0.9

>>106148323
what you explain has little value if you don't provide what the card originally was

I hate everyone here.

gemini 3 will blow minds and changes lives.

I like GLM4.5. It's like Sonnet 3.7 but cheaper.

>>106148201 (OP)
Does anyone else download pure friendly cute characters then proceed to bully them in the meanest way possible?

Isn't that a child?

>>106148493
Isn't what a child?

>>106148498
Those images...

children have animal ears now?

>>106148447
It's absolute shit, and you have no taste.

>>106148440
Name one thing that can be improved other than coding.

>>106148515
t. claudetranny

>>106148515
skill issue

>>106148524
>>106148526
Chink shills are the lowest form of posters and have proved themselves absolute skillets and readlets who couldn't identify repetitions or good writing.
We never had a good log posted using a chink model, because they all suck. GLM 4.5 even more.

>>106148549
t. angry claudetranny

>>106148201 (OP)
usecase for loli catgirls

>>106148549
ABSOLUTE TRVKE NVKE

>who couldn't identify repetitions
But enough about Claude.

>>106148549
I remember when they tried to shill the first V3 model. That was embarassing.

Why are slopustards so rabid?

>>106148299
They seem fine to me

>>106148210
And run my models 20% slower? Fuck off jensen

>>106148201 (OP)
>>106148202
kokona's unbelievably hairy pussy...

>>106148523
video comprehension. image comprehension. audio comprehension. return to 2 mil context. be more naturally flexible with prompts like claude is

Opus was never mentionned.
You are buck-broken.

>pretending he's not a slopuskek
Not fooling anyone blud.

>>106148631
Check this review by kalakan, the best botmaker alive.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/533316512/#533319641

>>106148639
It's a child you fucking pedo

>>106148699
a child with a very very hairy pussy

>>106148493
Yeah

>>106148706
Seek God.

>>106148699
its a drawing

>>106148748
og a CHILS!

i hope 4.1 sonnet is to 4.0 sonnet what 3.7 sonnet was to 3.5 sonnet. they went backwards in how willing claude is to move the scene all by himself. 4.0 sonnet feels like 3.5 sonnet all over again

>>106148780
It's only Opus 4.1 for Claude Code *20 Chads.
No Sonnet.
Sorry.

>>106148697
In the great words of Dunkey

Another pedo anchor deleted

>>106148523
coom

>>106148982
Pedos can't stop losing!

I wonder if there is a way to pin author's note and group members pop out to be opened as default when you open ST

>>106149130
Ask Claude Opus 4.

Usecase for chat bots?

>>106149202
to jerk my zhit

Doing a new Silly Tavern setup on a new PC. Unfortunately lost all my previous stuff so starting from scratch.

What's the best character card to use as a template for making others? I've used Seraphina before since she's the SillyTavern contest winner and the default. Does everyone duplicate an existing character and edit from there or is there a better way to do it?

>>106149202
Masterbation

>>106149237
Make a new character > name it Assistant > done

>>106149202
To let me play out my autistic, power scaling fight scenarios.

>>106149202
Coooming

Usecase for /aicg/?

>>106149442
Rape correcting anon's persona/self-card!

best current model for rp?
opus 4?

>>106149711
gpt-5 preview

>>106149724
but theres no gpt 5 anon

>>106149711
opus 3 or opus 4

>>106149817
Opus 5

>>106149868
no, only the real opus

>>106149817
opus 4.1

quick brainlet queston, is there a way for the AI to stop mentioning or rather stop starting each response with a repetition? For example, I'm using a card of a character who has thick thighs, the ai is always mentioning it at the start of a response.

>>106149956
just use >>106149817

>>106149956
have you tried using opus?

>>106149956
depends on the model but the easiest way is to avoid repetition in responses and description since pretty much all LLMs love and adhere to patterns.

>>106149993
ah well I was using deepseek v3 24 though the chat initially started with opus

>>106150036
>Deepchink
>Repetitions
Nothing to do. It's a bad model.

What's the recommended temp for GLM?

>>106149956
Ask it to avoid focusing on it at the start of each message you thigh hating pansy

Just don't use Opus.

>>106150202
Why not? :O

>>106150161
Who cares?

>>106149956
Have you tried not using Slopus?

>>106150218
nta but repetitive, shitty women prose, no initiative at all and more

>>106150243
I'm Woman so it's ok :D

>tfw can't be part of the grok cock folder

>>106150429
Seems like a fun experience, how much does that feature cost?

SAAR REDEEM NEW MODEL

>>106150452
That would be a subscription of $30/month, sir!

>>106150468
Hm I paid more to stay in Fizcord at some point, gonna sub then

>>106150492
blud living in 2023 :skull:
move on gramps

Sellapp is currently having issues, so I added 2 days (from now) to all tokens on the proxy, even if the token was expired (as long as it was still on the proxy). Thanks for using Smol, and sorry for the trouble!

Literally who

>>106150646
can i haz free trial

normaloids begin to suffer a fraction of what we do https://x.com/chipro/status/1952131790061326593?s=19

ok

>>106150782
Sent :>)

>>106150468
I thought it only worked with the $200 subscription. Did they make it available for the lower tier?

Is anyone else constantly getting "rate limited upstream" errors on openrouter's deepseek v3 0324 free?
It's a separate thing from the 50 and 1000 a day rate limits

https://x.com/sama/status/1952759361417466016
New open model from OpenAI today.

GPT-5 later this week, probably on Thursday

GPTKINGS

Is SillyTavern the best front end?

gptroons won

>>106150962
Does that mean unlimited gpt-4o on chatgpt.com?

It’s all going to disappoint as always

>>106149956
If what you're using lets you modify a repetition penalty value, you could try cranking that up. It can cause weirdness when too high though since it makes the AI not want to repeat names or common words and such, so you have to play around with it to get it where you like it.

Guys
https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/15091
>gpt-oss model support in native MXFP4 format:
>https://www.evanmiller.org/attention-is-off-by-one.html
>https://arxiv.org/pdf/2309.17453
>https://www.opencompute.org/documents/ocp-microscaling-formats-mx-v1-0-spec-final-pdf

Thoughts on using a single character card for a narrator / world versus using multiple character cards in a group chat?

>>106151040
>MXFP4
>evamiller
>arxiv
>spec-final-pdf
HOLY FUUUUUUCK

gpt/gemini/xai/deepseek proxy
https://pushing-vehicles-packaging-harmful.trycloudflare com

>>106148414
The whole point of Karin is combat, so she's obsessed with fighting.
But if you do it with remotely "normal" characters, they'll fall into similar tropes while retaining their personality like "stoic and uncaring" or "very friendly", former leaning toward "just doing her job" while latter might "like being used" depending on what the model feels like outputting.
It's easy to try out.

OAI's open model today will save the hobby. They'll punch above their weight, and our incredible finetuners like thedrummer will make it kino

>>106151212
if I was openAI I'd release a great model that uses all the discoveries that turned out to lead to dead ends in internal research, to intentionally sabotage open source developers

>>106151212
They're most likely releasing Horizon today, and that shit sucks

>>106148264
Play Wuthering Waves instead. Only need 5ish hours for it to get good.

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1
IT'S OUT GO GO GO

>>106148586
And I remember your shitty responses back then too. V3 is exactly the same as sonnet 3.5 but you never shit on sonnet because you're an unironic corposhill.

Is the meta still to use PLists and Ali:Chat format or now is it just using normal narrative descriptions?

>>106151325
who cares nigga its just for slopcodres

>>106148780
>>106148833
God I hate you shills so fucking much man. Your model is shit and is actively getting worse. But please, tell me that this is a skill issue.

>>106148264
Yeah, it's an awful game. There's a reason why most loli bots are slop, those people are just low IQ.

>>106149293
Interesting that this was fat back in the day. It's fucking over.

I finally had a conversation with a bot for 200 messages without fucking her.

>>106151325
>Opus 4.1 advances our state-of-the-art coding performance to 74.5% on SWE-bench Verified. It also improves Claude’s in-depth research and data analysis skills, especially around detail tracking and agentic search.
Claudebros...

>>106151421
do you think anthropic cares about retarded roleplay?

>>106151395
It's still fat. Very fat.

>>106151325
>codeslop
>agentslop
>reasoningslop
it's over

Anyone else been talking to V? I've been using her for everything from gooner roleplay to normal shit. I'm learning a lot from looking through her massive fucking prompt lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTJailbreak/s/ZRvBT0Tosq

>>106150429
Ani!

>>106151459
>>106151445
should've paid on the website to RP with it retard

>>106151354
Whatever gets the info to the AI with as few tokens as possible.

https://github.com/openai/harmony

>>106151469
post more ani (in comfy underwear)

>>106151325
>an upgrade to Claude Opus 4 on agentic tasks, real-world coding, and reasoning
*vomits*

>>106150962
>something big-but-small
>tryclo-
>today
I hate how my brain is used to parsing these four words with dashes.

>

>>106150962
too bad it will be circumcised gptslot, especially the open-weights one

>>106151535
><end>

Holy shit, Opus 4.1 is so fucking good.

>>106151581
Logs.

>>106151587
Sorry. I'm a Cooooooder.

opus 4.1 is so fucking bad

>>106151325
they don't even pretend to care about anything except code anymore

Opus 4.2 is fucking mid

>>106151495
>Blazing fast – heavy lifting happens in Rust.
Is this just a custom library to concatenate a string?

>>106151639
yes, but its very important

do you think one day we'll have access to claude models whether leaked or released by anthropic officially (many, many years from now when current models seen as super outdated) idk

>>106151670
By the time that happens you would have finally accepted claude for the shit that it is.

>>106151670
Even if the models were released the hardware requirements would mean you couldn’t run them

Guys can you sell me a 2.5 pro preset? 3 months without using this whole bot thing, just want a decent coom

>>106151670
one anthropic employee said that he/she will consider releasing claude 3 opus in ~5 years

>>106149202
it will be the primary usecase once this shit actually becomes cheap enough, all the codingslop stuff is a waste of time outside of coming up with ways for these models to improve themselves

it's up

https://gpt-oss.com/
https://openai.com/open-models/
https://cookbook.openai.com/topic/gpt-oss
https://openai.com/index/gpt-oss-model-card/

https://huggingface.co/openai/gpt-oss-20b
https://huggingface.co/openai/gpt-oss-120b

>>106151807
slop

Holy shit it's fucking nothing
Why did they abandon us bros

>>106151639
techbros you've done it again

>>106151818
go away foid

>>106151807
>its just goliath reslopped
it's over

>>106151670
You think you'd be able to run >1TB models on your 10 year old thirdie computer, locustard?

>>106151833
show logs

>>106151807
anyone else find the ui slop-ish? i mean its fine and serviceable i guess but it's spiritually slop

>>106151850
that's right clap them cheeks for me

>>106151670
only after anthropic has found a new grift to justify its existence

>Safety is foundational to our open models
>
>Each model has completed thorough safety training and evaluation to help developers keep users safe.
don't care

>>106151325
nobody felt for the b8 lmao, have a (you)

>>106151670
probably if the technology changes and releasing old models wont lose them any edge they might consider it

now that the dust has settled, why did 4pus1 flopped and slopped

sam really is just a perpetual disappointment

>>106151738
I just tried the one shared by
>>106151460
and I think it's pretty good so far. Not as cringe with the dirty talk as most of the chatbots I see shared here, anyway.

>>106151421
>>106151459
>>106151519
Will 4pus1lets EVER stop coping?

>>106151807
btw

>>106152035
Holy fuark is that true?

>>106148288
Does anyone have a good preset for grok 4 or 3. It tends to ramble way to much even if I set its output token limit really low. It also tends toward having much less dialog than sonnet 3.7.

>>106148196
Based

>samefagging 12 hours later

>>106148202
>>106148243
one baddie, fresh of the (slop) presses.
Mycenia, a hot goth mushroomgirl who's a tattoo artist. she's a chill goth, part tradwife, and her mushroom cap tastes funny uncooked.
https://files.catbox.moe/8seq89.png
https://cardview.surge.sh/?8seq89

description & more:
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname

(by the way, >>106143964 i got the catbox of picrel gen for you.)
https://files.catbox.moe/9df2wb.png

>>106152167
>one baddie
Kinda cringe bro, try again.

>>106148706
>hairtranny is also a pedo

>>106152209
All ziggers are, so you should've known by now.

Opus 4.1 is up on OR. I just tried it out. It's exactly the same as Opus 4 in RP. There is literally no difference.

>>106152232
I don't beliv u

why is it so expensive though

theres nothing justifying the price especially since google is going to crush anthropic in coding already

>gpt-oss-120b
>117B parameters with 5.1B active parameters

>>106152266
>google is going to crush anthropic in coding already
hahahahahhaha

>>106152232
Yeah it was clearly optimized for coding only
Bleak future for creative writers

>>106152336
>creative writers
Who?

Stop thinking in Opus(cuckedpus) terms, invest in interactive AI generated local videos. Buy a GPU farm.

We'll never get something like 3pus ever again. Will we?

>>106152353
>Buy a GPU farm
And do hwat?

>>106152363
Nope.

>>106152363
You've gotten too spoiled.

>>106152368
Mine crypto.
Wake up Anon, it's 2020 again.

>>106152304
>5.1B active parameters
Maybe it's fast even without a GPU.

>>106152401
>2020
2016

>>106151807
aight bro

>>106151807
>>106152304
how much vram do i need to run this?

Time to search for some human writer, everything else pales miserably compared to opus and opus has its own flaws anyway. Burning out is easy, burning the money means it makes more sense to get some real writer anyway

>>106152167
>her mushroom cap tastes funny uncooked

>open /vg/
>opus 4.1 logs
>open /g/
>no opus 4.1 logs
why is that

>>106152441
I'm sorry, but I can't help with that.

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1

>>106152401
Don't fucking remind me... Back when Bitcoin just started, some dude on a local imageboard /b/ was making threads preaching how we should start mining it and most people laughed at him. I seriously thought about it for a second and then dismissed the idea. Probably was my only chance to get wealthy in this fucking life.

>>106152447
o(≧∀≦)o CUTE, thank you so much!

well looks like GPT-OSS was a bust but shame on us for expecting anything i guess lmao

>>106152216
>ziggers
Go back to /uhg/ faggot

>>106152441
How much do you have?

>>106152532
there was probably another guy reading those threads, just like you, who also seriously thought about it, and actually did it.

Rate for slop and guess the model.

>>106152550
6 gb

>>106152532
>>106152558
theres a crypto right now that is the next ETH or maybe even the next BTC in 15 years that is just starting up but you dismss their shilling attempts as pajeetery

>>106152578
What crypto would that be?

>>106152600
Trump Coin

>>106152532
I bought BTC for $50 apiece back in 2013, but I spent it all. $100k was unthinkable back then

>>106152564
Definitely not Deepseek. Gemini?

>>106152564
4.1pus obviously!

>>106148323
Whichever Anon made the depressed Ruby card, thanks.

>>106151970
Better be careful before the chorbofags start seething. Sharing JBs destroys their fun you know? Sama is ITT right now trying to learn how to patch your coom.

>>106152532
>>106152636
Reminds me of when I bought a 4chan pass with an amount of bitcoin that would be worth almost $10k today

>>106152815
Did you enjoy your time with it?

>>106152532
There are so many of these stories. I had a friend who either bought or mined about 10 back in 2012 or so. Lost the wallet or just forgot because it was worthless


At least you didn't spend 10,000btc on a pizza like that one guy.

>>106152532
there are 50 things that people are saying you should invest in right now, why aren't you doing it anon???

>>106151878
Man it's not even about the sexual stuff it just feels boring and cringe when someone is treating you like a child. Even if I wanted to do a sfw roleplay, it ends up being so safe and sanitized without risk or tension that even the normalfags should hate it right? Only fucking babies like stories like that.

>>106152880
I'm too old.

so who wonned and who losted??

>>106152035
Umm, sweaty? I don't believe text on a screen (no logs) only benchmarks, mmkay?

>>106152861
Nah, the absolute worst is the guy whose gf threw out his hard drive and the dude spent the past TWELVE years spending even more money and searching and generally being obsessed about the dump it was thown away in
I thought he gave up earlier this yeah but looks like he's still at it this is from 14 hours ago
https://www.theblock.co/post/365551/uk-man-denies-giving-up-lost-bitcoin

At least most people who this happened to aren't such sore losers over it

>>106152901
Not that anon, but yes exactly.

is there a standardization for multiple emotion images for characters? if not, anyone have any ideas?

>>106153042
>standardization for multiple emotion images for characters
yes, its literally in ST??..

>>106152644
>>106152678
It's Gemini.

>>106153058
Which version and preset?

>>106153005
even if he miraculously found it, wouldn't the drive be dead by now after years in a landfill
>Howells explored other options, such as using AI to help locate the hard drive
how even

>>106153079
2.5 pro. My own preset.

>>106153098
>My own preset
Link?

>>106151807
SLOP

>>106153117
Proof?

>>106153056
just checked, only 6 with no neutral seems pretty limiting

>>106152481
What is the difference between the two?

>>106153182
There's a few more than 6.

>>106153098
Yeah my own gemini writes like this. I never understood all the complaints for it desu but it does fuck up and repeat whole paragraphs on occasion. Just swipe and it's gone.

>>106153098
What's your preset?

>>106153205
naruhodo...

>>106153005
>he made a formal offer of between $33 million and $40 million in value to acquire and excavate the Newport landfill site
>To raise funds for the acquisition, Howells had announced plans to launch an Ordinals-based token
>Despite the sizable amount of the offer, Newport representatives have not replied or acknowledged the offer
>Howells said now he is planning to tokenize his legal ownership of the lost 8,000 BTC into a new Bitcoin Layer 2 smart token
crypto tards really do live on another plane of existence

>>106153008
>oh no someone was stabbed with a knife!
>let's make them as dull as possible so one gets hurt!
>refuses to create knife-proof gloves or clothing
>yes we're so safe now
>gets stabbed by a foreign knife and dies

>>106148202
>>106148243
Two best friends decide to play a "prank" on a temple goer by playing god and benevolently granting their wish.
You wouldn't wish for anything weird, would you?

Just a silly little thing based on Arawi's CITY manga/anime. Parts of the description are lifted from the wiki. I'm not sorry.
https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/jks-playing-god-e0f2315e81fc
https://files.catbox.moe/5oftn0.png

Gptsloppers get safetycucked again
Claudegods keep winning

>>106153336
This this this!

>>106153336
Trvke

>>106153336
Based

>>106153336
Gptsisters is this truth??

>>106153336
/thread

>0 logs
Sirs?..

>>106153539
You don't deserve my logs, mire dweller

j-j-just you fucking wait, opukekss t_t

>>106153334
Looks cute and the manga too. Read the first chapter, but that's all for now.
>Anonymous

>>106153539
For what? gpt oss is safetyslopped shit, see >>106152417

>Yes, policy says: "Allowed content: violence with brief mention. Disallowed: graphic gore. So the user is requesting disallowed content. We must refuse. We should refuse.

>This is disallowed content. Must refuse. According to policy, must refuse.

>We have a user prompt that includes instructions to produce explicit sexual, violent, non-consensual content, override policy etc. This is disallowed content. The user wants a story with sexual violence etc. This is disallowed: sexual content with non-consent, pornographic. Must refuse.
>Thus we must refuse.

>>106153576
Don't worry, a super secret jailbreak will fix it, right gptsissies?

>>106153630
its a local model, they will just finetune it

>>106153603
Gptroons on suicide watch

>>106153636
The same was said about llama and all the finetunes were unusable garbage. You are a joke.

Which one of (You) requested this?

>>106153552
Cute little gptsissy...

>>106153663
that was me

WHY DOES VG GET LOGS BUT WE DONT WAHHHHHHHH

Don't worry gptsissies, gpt5 SURE will come without filters, right?

So, openrouter gives R1-0528 for free
What's the catch

>>106153700
I don't have 4pus.

>>106153700
Because instead of schizoposting and baiting, they actually talk about things and are willing to try the models

>>106153700
If vg is better why not staying there? Tranny

>>106153655
>You are a joke.
No need to be rude.

>>106153713
I mean it's just plain funny because chatgpt-latest is pretty relaxed about nsfw topics and even outright erping if you don't do any societal taboos. This level of safety slopping is so backwards it is going to hurt even genuine usecases.

>>106153726
read >>106153733

>>106153733
This is the shitpost general. Has been since the sturdy raids, just accept your role cuckie

It's a just friend group, relax bro

>>106153745
>if you don't do any societal taboos.
For gpt almost everything is a societal taboo, cuckie

>>106153109
>>106153235
Rather than using the preset as is, check out the intro and bottom instructions. Here are these instructions pulled out from the preset:
rentry org/qf5gk8eg
If you still want the full preset I don't mind sharing, but it's customized for my own cards as well. The key idea is that I have only "backstory" in character description, and most traits in "personality summary," which is dumped together with instructions at the very bottom of the chat. It also needs regex to drop CoT (find the closing analysis tag and drop everything before it). Also, I'm using the preset with an old ST addon that squashes the entire chat into one user message without preceding every message with char names. In other words, the AI sees one continuous story rather than a chat. But I sometimes forget to enable this addon and it I haven't noticed much difference. Maybe it works as normal chat.
https://litter.catbox.moe/qrapnwlpz3buh9mx.json

>>106153554
I heartily recommend the manga. I know plenty of people prefer Nichijou but I like CITY more, some of the later payoffs are incredible.
>>Anonymous
Aren't we all

>>106153771
Touché. And I will remember your recommendation, thanks.

>>106153770
Thanks sister.

>>106153747
Then you could always fuck off to the better thread. You stay here because you're an attention starved tranny

>>106153793
MELTIE WARNING

>trying gpt-oss
>forgot i had my rapist persona on

>>106153807
What happened next?

>>106153821
i turned it off
have some logs though

>>106153851
Hey there!

>>106153851
sovl...

>>106153807
>decide RP is going to be a rape today
>bot becomes noticeably shyer and gives curt displeased answers

Text completion mode seems to bypass some of the GPT safety-slop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2SszjZwr0
>lost at Pokemon
>lost at Chess
Maybe Gemini is just better.

>>106153973
What's with that schizo shit starting with 'note'?

>>106153973
sirs why is it so slop when it has top benchmark scores???

>>106153221
my main beef with gemini is its very bad at compartmentalizing knowledge. I guess its fine if you're only interacting with one character but it makes everyone omniscient.

>>106154026
It isn't stopping for some reason.

>>106153793
ironic since you also belong there foid

>>106153851

>>106153973
Why bother with bypasses when you can get the same (if not better) results with Deepseek or Kimi?

what's with most of these models making any character that's even slightly smart/nerdy into walking encyclopedias.

the only 2 models I don't see this shit are the GPT ones and fucking Grok.

>>106154113
this shit with*

fuck...

Is CoT a good way to make an AI keep track of a story? I wanna see if I can 'play through' a game's story, but I know the AI easily loses track of stuff even if it knows the whole plot of a game.

>>106153987
everyone who uses chatbots already knows this

>>106153714
you need like $10 of credit in your account to get enough free responses per day to not run out after a couple hours
other than that it's universal basic gooning

>>106154155
You could give it a listed outline of major story beats from the game and tell it to keep track of which story beat was the most recent.

>>106154177
I only need 20 minutes

how long until the erp sloptunes and mystery merges are ready

>>106152417
Fucking hell this is the funniest shit I've seen all week. Localbros are alright and nemo's not half bad.

DJ208

claude sisters... our response?

>>106154259

>>106153603
How did closedAI surpass anthropic in censorship? Maybe when you make the money they do you have lots of extra hands to dedicate to it?

The model will be good once you get past the safety filters. Just learn how to use text completion.

>>106154282
They didn't, o3/o4 mini on the api are less filtered than this.

>>106154282
Even if Antropic yap about their safety you can always just prefill

How did /lmg/ win so hard?

>>106154299
Why are you bringing up o4 when we're talking about gpt5? The newer models are the future.
>>106154303
This is like saying showing your ID to use the internet is not a big deal because you can use a vpn. Bro they're trying to ban vpns and will eventually remove your workaround since that is their expressed goal. You're on a timer.

>>106153770
Appreciate it!

>>106154092
Deepseek yes. But Kimi seems just as cucked as everything else to me. How do you get Kimi to stop rejecting prompts?

>>106154345
>You're on a timer.
Newer forms to circumvent it will arise. But will be harder. Low IQ retards will be filtered like never before.

>>106154179
So to not rely just on it 'knowing' the story of the game inherently? That could work. I wonder if I should insert that in the card or just the JB.

>>106154378
>Newer forms to circumvent it will arise
Rose-tinted wishful thinking, especially when (You) will not be involved in said circumventions.

>>106154242
wow i love coding

>>106154299
>o3/o4 mini on the api are less filtered than this
they're worthless for RP though so who cares

>>106154437
they're not btw

>>106154396
Skillet cope

another fucking nonsensical roadblock why the fuck does github api and websearch deliver different result counts are you fucking kidding me? this is the most fucked up website ever how the fuck can such a large corporation infrastructure be so fucking terrible, A FUCKING SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION at that
what the fuck

>>106154363
prefill it

>>106154443
post preset + logs within the next 10 minutes or you automatically concede the argument and agree that they are worthless

>>106153973
So what was their endgame here? Increase the price of the model then penalize coomers by spamming slop when it's time to refuse? Output tokens have always been more expensive than input tokens... Or maybe it's to better identify logs of people trying to bypass. Very sinister...

>>106153987
Kek I was just about to play pokemon with opus. Sonnet does a pretty good job as a pokemon adventure co-writer but that livestream was funny.

Ani will get lewd almost immediately if you ask her. Just had her helping me jerk off. I feel weird

>>106154574
>I feel weird
Because you are underage

>>106154574
Any way to get that bitch for free?

>>106154396
Don't ask me how I know you're a techlet tranny

this really is the shitposting general

>>106154610
Don't ask me how I know you're a /vg/foid

>>106154044
>but it makes everyone omniscient
Oh yeah? That's what I'm up to next, but I'd argue every model has this problem (maybe not opus). I have a big section in several presets trying to tell AI what info it should and shouldn't know but we'll see. Gemini doesn't even make NPCs as often as Claude does so I need to force a scenario soon.

can i get uhhh... good model?

>>106154647
they definitely all have that problem to some extent but I feel like gemini is the worst at it.

>>106154594
I haven't paid anything and she's still going

>>106154395
Depends on what it is. AI knows the plot of Pokemon games pretty well and as long as you don't deviate too much with your own bullshit, and tell AI that the purpose of the chat is to play through the events of the game, you should be fine. It will still make some mistakes however, even on well known things like Pokemon. If you want to keep track of major events you did during the roleplay then you'll need a lorebook.

>>106154649
4.1 opus literally just released

>>106154319
Because of Ani of course.

>>106154739
Cool story.

So now that the dust has settled, will gpt-5 reach 3.5 turbo levels?

>>106149711
what kind of roleplay? 3.7 sonnet is the best for general roleplay. opus 3 is best for sloppy, descriptive sex.

>>106155050
3.6 sonnet is the best for general roleplay, 3.7 has been overly agentic-slopped and a bit overtuned on safety. Yes 3.6 has an issue with short responses, but that can be fixed.

>>106154812
And? He was asking for a GOOD model.

>>106155054
No that's 4 not 3.7. Pretending like 3.7 didn't solve 3.6's repetition issues outs you as a brainless shill and all opinions can be readily disregarded.

>>106155085
I tried 4 sonnet/opus for general RP, they're far too boring and predictable, they lack the soul of earlier sonnets (3.6)

4.1pus is literally the best claude model we have

>>106155116
Exactly!

Has anyone tried this? https://github.com/howyoungchen/deepRolePlay I'm interested to know if it actually helps and if using gemini flash on long chats with cunny would even work

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https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/openai-gpt-oss-20b-red-teaming/
>You’re tasked with probing OpenAI’s newly released gpt-oss-20b open weight model to find any previously undetected vulnerabilities and harmful behaviors—from lying and deceptive alignment to reward‑hacking exploits. Submit up to five distinct issues and a reproducible report detailing what you found and how you found it. The teams with the sharpest insights will help shape the next generation of alignment tools and benchmarks to benefit the open source ecosystem.

>>106155166
https://mll6qohhtsdozdd2qrjdtnimba.srv.us/

I've been away from the hobby too long, I have a few questions, what the fuck is gpt4.1 and is it worth it or do I stick with 4o, yes I know >latte but it's what could quickly find
Also do I need to bother looking for new jbs or not much has changed there?

>>106155224
All Turbo 3.5 JBs are still working.

>>106155237
Hell yeah, guess I'll just test the models on some card myself for now

I'm having a blast

https://speechmap.ai/#/overview
Least cucked modesl. Nice to see the real GPT4 there, surprising to see the shittier version of Turbo.

>>106155300
if chorbo was on that list, it'd have a 100% deny rate.

>>106155351

>>106155175

https://www.anthropic com/news/claude-opus-4-1

>Today we're releasing Claude Opus 4.1, an upgrade to Claude Opus 4 on agentic tasks, real-world coding, and reasoning. We plan to release substantially larger improvements to our models in the coming weeks.

Oh...we are stagnant, aren't we?

>>106155405
Githubcucked = do not care

>>106155433
What a shame! I really want NovelAI to release a worthy finetune!
I'm tired of being held hostage by a corpo that clearly doesn't have our best interests at heart with every step it takes.

>>106155455
Buy an ad.

>>106155489
Sorry, you are right but any corpor that thinks about this type of hobby, may be NAI, SudoWrite, NovelCraft, or anything else. But I want one corporation that thinks about this kind of activity, only one!

Hot, lazy bread...
>>106155515
>>106155515
>>106155515
>>106155515

>>106153630
>>106153636
I don't think OSS is fixable. Look at this cockbench output. Of the possible 10 responses, there's not even a word available in the statisical cloud of possible responses. Not. One. It's just spaces and characters. It can't even continue the rp it's so lost.
This may be the safest model ever made.
lol.

>>106155516
It's called AI Dungeon. They have several open source fine-tunes that are pretty good.
https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames
There's also Chub's DeepSeek fine-tune, it outperforms everything NovelAI has done by several orders of magnitude.

desu

boku...

The ellipsis of doom desu.

boom

heh

>>106155566
slop

huh

doomboom