>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): Ryzen 5
Gaming: Ryzen 7 inc. X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>TIM: MX6, NT-H2, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues still reported; update BIOS before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high-end: consider 2x48GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>106123743

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106141200

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>>106150328 (OP)
The CPU section was fine before, I don't see why it needed to be changed

>>106150399
Needed to make room for the thermal paste section. That CPU list covers all the previously recommended Ryzen CPUs in fewer character count.

>Remove monitors
No, there are plenty of people who find the monitor section useful.

>>106150421
intel has good budget options, you should never buy AM4 when LGA1700 gets you much better budget performance

>>106150333
>RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti
please let it be true.
because with this I have no reason to not upgrade anymore.

>>106150530
LGA1700 is DOA. For the cost of an i5 12400 + decent mobo you're tragically close to the cost of r5 7600 + b650 mobo, the cost of RAM being the biggest differentiator. 100% not worth it.

The new WOLEDs each have suboptimal display configs.
>ASUS WOLEDs with TrueBlack Glossy finish are still stuck with a Gen 3 panel, imagine paying the ASUS premium for this.
>Gigabyte WOLED with new Gen 4 panel stuck with matte coating, enjoy hazy/grainy/oily images.
>https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/asus-debut-two-new-rog-strix-32-woled-monitors-with-new-trueblack-glossy-coating
>https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/gigabyte-announce-mo27q28g-with-a-27-primary-rgb-tandem-woled-panel
Asus is probably waiting to announce a glossy tandem monitor later (I'm not sure how GB beat them to it). There will be glossy versions according to TFT Central:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNQ__qtEkHc
If you want a peek at it's performance there's already the first Chinese review of LG's own version (turn on CC Subs):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kbAzQGvsA0

>>106150530
I'll add "AM5" to make it clearer it's not recommending DDR4 CPUs.

>>106150537
I'm surprised by the 5070 Super 18GB and the 5070 Ti 24GB, NVIDIA is probably marketing generative AI capabilities harder with these refresh cards.

>>106150421
I thought we already concluded in prior thread that all the thermal pastes are essentially the same performance

I can get asus 5060 ti dual on a sale, but Idunno
there aren't any reviews, because every mouthpiece got a premium 3 fan
people keep saying that two fans are enough, but I see these cheaper versions hitting 70-75 degrees under full load
I still have sapphire rx590 and I don't like how toasty it can get
maybe I'm just old and not used to having 200 watt heater inside my case

>>106150702
Dual cards are for people with hard drive cages in the way. There is no other reason to have one. The price difference is like $20

>>106150637
>NVIDIA is probably marketing generative AI capabilities harder with these refresh cards.
they're probably scared of Intel with their 48gb dual gpu.
but yes the fact that even the (low level)5070ti gets 24 gb is really nvidia unlinke

The ryzen 7 9700x and the i7 265k are almost the same price here.what cpu should i buy? i want to run a vm always and do some programming and discord running in background. im not gonna buy a gpu cause i dont play games. Or shall i wait for a ryzen 5 9600x3d? I have a laptop which has 16gb ram and a ryzen with igpu. my 16gb ram gets almost fully used. so should i buy a 32gb ram? I have seen people recommending 2x24gb now. whats the reason for this?

>>106150530
>5800xt - $141
>b450 - $80
>$221

>12900kf - $265
>b760 -$100
>$365

I'm failing to see the better value here

>>106150814
8700G
2 x 16 gb cl30 6000mhz ram

>>106150809
NVIDIA won't be giving out those higher memory capacities for free.
Increasing the average selling price (ASP) of GeForce cards is part of the gaming division's revenue growth strategy.

>>106150640
The recommended pastes are formulated for longevity, but NT-H2 should be removed because it's a worse product compared to MX-6 or Duronaut.

>>106150876
They're lowering the price of cucked 5000 series before the release of the real 5000 series which they will give with only a $100 premium on msrp. In reality we'll see $800 5070 supers, $1100 5070ti supers, and $2000 5080 supers

Anyone have experience with Jonsbo cases?
I'm thinking of picking either a Z20 or D32.

>>106150916
Just buy lian li, antec, or fractal. It's that simple

>>106150927
Thermaltake if you're heckin quirky

>>106150876
>Increasing the average selling price (ASP) of GeForce cards is part of the gaming division's revenue growth strategy.
Is there really no one else willing to get into PC gayming?

>>106150702
A stock 5060 Ti 16GB doesn't even draw 200W, dual fans are fine with this power load.
A 980 Ti has a 250W TDP, and this GPU either has a blower fan or a dual-fan cooling (two-slot form factor).

>I see these cheaper versions hitting 70-75 degrees under full load
That's fine for the GPU, but buy one with a better cooler if you're uncomfortable with it.
ASUS Dual has a quiet BIOS mode that will reduce the fan noise for higher operating temperatures.

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>106150916
I have a Jonsbo D31 and I love it. It's a clean mATX case.

>>106150953
NVIDIA already concluded the PC gaming market wasn't growing enough during the 2000s; that's why they developed CUDA and eventually turned into an AI company.

so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.

The only valuable post itt.
I bet you didnt know that.

Playing it on Intel Arc.

Hello everyone!

A friend of mine asked me If I knew how to build a gaming PC and I remembered this place. He's from Belgium and has a budget of 2800-3000euros.

I'll gladly accept any help.

Bought a $40 case and built a "prebuilt" from old PC that I'm going to sell. The case is chink "Zeiron Montreal Mesh 4xRGB" and really surprised me. It's really small but fits proper ATX mobo and 310mm GPU. The side panel glass feels like actual glass in weight and texture. The downsides is ugly front panel, no dust filter on intake fans (there is one for PSU), atrocious 2-wire molex RGB fans. Other than that the insides are rather thought out for that price. Slight issue is upper motherboard power connector but if you throw it up before screwing mobo, it's fine. Had a lot of fun building this. Would probably buy myself another one of those cases and strip it entirely for "open stand". Next will throw new rig together temporarily, just to see if cloned windows works properly after hardware change.

>>106151161
kill yourself

>>106151161
>He's from Belgium and has a budget of 2800-3000euros.
Check this out.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NWPB3w
3000 euros buys you a strong computer. If I were your friend I would wait for 5000 Supers to come out at the end of the year. There's nothing for extra 500 euros for your friend to buy.

are these 9070xt from gigabyte really as bad as some people claim? like the bottom of the barrel bad? they're the cheapest here by a decent margin

>>106151170
which cpu fan is that?

>>106151344
It's a first version of DeepCool Gammax 400 with swapped fan.

>>106151291
Gigabyte is claiming that the thermal gel issue only affected the early production batches.
Buy it if the deal's too good.

>>106151384
yeah i know the gel issue is supposedly fixed
guess they're getting such a bad rep here because every shop imported a ton of these and people don't want them because it's not cool to have the generic thing
or something like that

>>106151144
>1080p
I can tell by all the jaggeddness

>>106151161
casino -> all on black -> 6k, now you can build a real pc
thank me later

>>106150626
>If you want a peek at it's performance there's already the first Chinese review of LG's own version (turn on CC Subs):
>Matte coating presents "greasy" image
>The latest WOLED panel still suffers from crushed blacks
>Raised black issues "is the same as QD-OLED"
Yikes.

>>106151291
gel thing aisde, those gigabyte 9070xt gaming OCs seem to have really underwhelming coolers compared to other brands

>>106151668
>raised blacks
that's because matte diffuses light over entire panel bruh
lg won't match qd until they go pure rgb
tandem is just a stop gap cope
it's over
samsung won

Is there any way I'll be able to know when the new gigabyte mo27q28g monitor will be released?

>>106151699
That's just because of the clock speeds being higher than the rest of 'em

>>106151259
Thank you so much!

>>106151725
It's scheduled to release this month, buy one at launch because the $500 price is supposedly a promotional offer.

>>106151668
its 2025 and lg still hasnt figured out a good gamma curve?

i need advice bro. currently running 5800x3d/3070. wanna upgrade to 9070xt. but im still on b450. pcie 3.0 shouldnt be an issue right? playing on 1440p

is there a way to check which mobo is compatible with the 50 series?
because my 9 year old msi z170a carbon gaming was not.

>zen 6 is on am6
amd is getting greedy
HOLY LMAO

>>106151790
~1-3% performance hit, older pci-e generations only take a massive hit if you hit the VRAM limit
this video explains it better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsSUPuvHI4

>>106151741
Do I just keep googling it until a buy option appears?

>>106151840

I need two fans, they must be 120 mm

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2E09XPU1HFBG8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gMwdVvHOxiYCwqpVqYfkIHDxnz1JdepV5sqNlqvFYtepreWHHHKWr1SuElApV6QQnDxfHAZBDMHpBqCtMvp-KP4daUebf3G3wdWH0snIgeASaFjEkpuPuuLTLvkA4lqo4gpSmWnqF6jZ5GFYpBZhsGnZowhx-XGUa0G6pRAiB8MY6mBOFOGAugpOsCksFxmqo-j5wEwV0_YqBcv3bbKvJA.GO61fMOOy3s-Q61Cf-FMgPGFK0wyDYW-NgVkktQ94MU&dib_tag=se&keywords=noctua&qid=1754412412&sprefix=noctua%2Cpc%2C242&sr=8-4

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00119A-P12-Black-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07GB5JRTZ

Noctua P12 vs Artic P12?

>>106151950
be Quiet Pure Wings 3 120mm is a newer and better fan than the Noctua P12.
You should only pay the Noctua premium for their best fans, but Fractal's Momentum fans are a serious alternative.

Arctic P12 if you just want a budget case fan.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250805675479/en/PCI-SIG-Announces-PCI-Express-8.0-Specification-to-Reach-256.0-GTs

HIS GPU DOESN'T SUPPORT PCIe 8.0

NGMI

>>106151977
Remember when a mid-range GPU that would last you 3-4 years easily was $250, anons?

Are there any x870/x870e boards that actually let you use all your M2 slots without gimping the x16 slot? Also without being $1000, I see the top tier MSI board allows it but fuck paying that much.

>>106151977
>>106152023
Didn't mean to quote.

>>106151977
Its a 5 dollar difference and I only want 2. Wings it is then.

>>106152023
i remember when highend cards back then would struggle to maintain 60hz in games released the following year and crossfire/sli cope was needed for high fps gaymen

>>106152112
https://www.amazon.com/quiet-High-Speed-Speed-regulating-Extraordinary-BL106/dp/B0CM3Z39J3

This one, no?

>>106152023
more like fucking 8 years (RX580)

>>106152126
Yes.

>>106152113
(Citation Needed)
Sure there were examples of this, but that wasn't the norm in the slightest.

>>106152143
hd7000 and gtx500 days where nvidia fucked around with tessellation

Looking for context form others to know if I'm on the right track with cooling. This new build has a 9800X3D and a 9070 XT. I decided to stress-test it with Cyberpunk, a game which is practically a tech demo for Nvidia at this point. As expected, turning on raytracing medium dropped the framerate down to between 50-60, though since I'm using a shitty old 60hz monitor that doesn't actually matter.

Thermals were very consistent, I'm just trying to figure out if they're right from others' experience, especially the memory temp. CPU temp barely budged - it's 48-51 idle (depends on ambient temp) and never got above 57. GPU core temp was 63-65 the entire time. GPU memory temp was 80-82, that's the only one I'm really keeping an eye on. It obviously wasn't really gathering and retaining heat as it didn't really climb over time, but it's the hottest thing on the board so far.

>>106151717
When is LG going to release their True RGB OLEDs like was planned? If they don't hurry, TCL COST is going to beat them to market and consume everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9u3tet-oQQ

Samsung knows this which is why they are in a hurry to move ahead their QD-EL plans:
https://www.quantumdots-info.com/samsung-aims-commercialize-qd-el-display-next-few-years-accelerate-its-rd

>>106152153
My 7950 ran for 5 years before I started having to get into low-med settings in most games.

>>106152255
my hd7950 struggled in far cry 3 in 2012

>>106151699
they have pretty good vram temps thoughbeit

>Windows 10 just decides to update my 9070 XT's drivers for absolutely no reason (even if I remember blocking updates) and now I'm on a driver that has no FSR4 support but on a version number way higher than AMD officially has on their website
Why the fuck is Microsoft allowed to do this?
Fucking have to DDU because of this garbage no wonder AMD Linuxfags laugh at AMD Windows users

>>106152349
>no FSR4 support but on a version number way higher than AMD officially has on their website
sounds like something amd did to themselves
thats why nobody trusts amd windows drivers

any good external trackpads for windows out there? i miss the gestures i could do on my macbook sometimes

>>106152227
It'll be over if TCL CSOT wins Apple's business with those panels.

>>106152287
That sounds like a you issue, that was literally the first game I played because my 7950 came with a code for it and it ran fine.

>>106150328 (OP)
8TB Samsung EVOs when?? I could go with 4x4TB, but I could remove the HDD cage if I had just two drives.
>Buy QVO
No.

>>106152207
I just tested my old gpu and it rus 70-80°C under 100% load with ~2200 rpm on a cold day and it lasted me 6 or 7 years
I think you are fine

>>106152349
they really want you to install linux
I don't even miss the damn thing

>>106152139
Thanks.

>>106152386
i think you were going through the honeymoon phase anon
i distinctly remembered that game running like a janky ass slideshow at times

>>106152396
Isn't the PM893 a rebadged 870 EVO or something? super expensive though

>>106152349
never had this problem with nvidia, or any any hardware. microsoft has never updated my drivers automatically on either win10 or 11. you must have a special setting turned on.

>>106152424
It did 30+FPS at 1080P on ultra settings and 60 on very high. Did you have an AMD CPU or something?

>>106152369
They've always done this, including re-enabling Windows Updates (you didn't properly block it)
It's the whole reason why Intel Arc also was a disaster at launch because Microsoft kept trying to overwrite Intel's own drivers

>>106152477
google "25.10.16" it's not special

>>106150328 (OP)
Built my pc with that case today

>>106152468
Shoot, seems like it.
>super expensive though
yeah imma kms.
I might as well go with the PM9A3 at that point, save some bucks while going U.2

PRICE OF COMPONENTS I WANT TO BUY IS DROPPING BUT I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY YET
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

MSI styling is ass
I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole

>>106152617
They also scalped their own fucking products straight from the factory, hat catastrophic VRMs on their X570 boards, their CEO an hero'd and their customer service sucks dick.

I put MSI below ASRock in my personal rankings and that says a lot.

>>106152530
maybe for amd. i go months without updating my drivers and they don't get updated automatically. for example my soundcard drivers were 10 years old till recently. my nvidia driver was from june till i updated just now because this convo reminded me to check for driver updates in the app.

>>106152617
shame that all other aibs are asleep at the wheel and msi makes the best rtx5000 cards

Holy crap, I just found the most beautiful PC build of all time:

https://youtu.be/HMysACenVDY?si=C2AdtlI8fT5MFPgv

I fucking need it!!

>>106152921
looks like a hotbox that cooks the vram

>>106152921
Sorry, wrong link!!
Here's the correct link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWi1beTiVig

>>106152921
Mini PCs are the future man, they look so much better and take so less space.

>>106152921
I really don't get the whole matx hype.
if it's a portable device sure make it small so it's easy to handle and stuff but a pc that just stands around? why bother making it smaller/more portable?
temps in this thing must be horrible.
also limited on upgrades.
just get a laptop at this point

>>106152617
but i love the looks of mortar/tomahawk mobos

>>106152959
Airflow and temps are not about case size.

>>106153049
You can't have airflow if there's no space for the air to actually flow through

>>106153021
Temps are not related to case size and those Mini PCs just look better than big chunks of metal sitting around on your desk or on the floor, it’s more classy.

Does a liquid cooler like the lf3 actually cool better than a high quality air cooler? Is it worth the setup hassle?

>>106153181
Never use liquid coolers, they’re not worth the hassle. If they break you lose your entire setup, if an air cooler breaks you lose only the fans.

>>106153181
A 240mm LF3 is better than all air coolers in the market.

>>106153208
>(thing that basically never happens) is worse than (thing that basically never happens)
>not having a zero deductible $5000 electronics rider on your home insurance for $1/month
My entire custom loop could explode and I get a free PC.

>>106153282
Not everyone is a sheltered privileged first worlder that has never known struggle because he gets free stuff from his government and is pampered by his parents. Life is actually hard for some of us, not that you can understand that, you consumerist pig.

>>106153181
It's quite literally the best overall AIO on the market. Sure there's other coolers that can out "oomph" the LF3, but those are seriously louder than the LF3. And sure there's other coolers that can reach the LF3's noise floor, but those lack the cooling performance of the LF3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfffNRTOZCc

All at an unmatched price, it just blows everything else out of the water. It is unreachable by any other cooling solution, provided you have a slot for at least an 240mm rad.

>>106153208
When have you had an AiO leakage? I've been exclusively running AiOs since 2015 (August 15th to be exact), Arctic since 2022 and my small business uses arctic LF2 on every workstation and server exclusively as well, all that and I haven't had any leaks. Also this >>106153282 .
>>106153302
Fuck off

>>106153302
>projecting this hard
I've paid for everything I own through my own labor. Don't worry anon, you'll get that IT job some day.

I have a 360 liquid freezer not a 420, did I Kek myself

>>106153340
You're good. What CPU?

>>106153302
life is hard for you because you live in a country with an average IQ of 80

>>106153340
360mm is enough for any CPU on the market. You get ~100w of dissipation per 120mmx120.

>>106153316
Just because it didn’t happen to you yet it doesn’t mean it will never happen. The risk is always there, sooner or later you will experience a leakage and it will destroy all your parts.

>>106153378
You seriously need to learn risk management.

>>106153302
Top kek, triggered bad. A small fraction of people here are sheltered and privileged, the rest get kicked out of the house at 18 and get no support from their parents, because their parents probably have little as well. It's actually hard mode here because the cost of living is multiple times higher than in a third world country and youre not getting a high paying job without going into big debt for a degree

>>106153343
9800x3d. I have the antec c8 case and several other fans in the case so the airflow should be really good. I just look at certain aspects of my build since i set out for a "no compromises" build after getting my first big-boy job, and i wonder why I didn't get a 420 for example, it might've been out of stock or I couldn't get the color I wanted.

is gpu voltage offset enough? or do I need fancy curve?

>>106153428
>antec c8
No need to be upset, you're at the limit of what your case can handle anyways lmao:
https://www.antec.com/product/case/c8

Always, always RTFM before building.

>>106153340
Bigger is better, but it's not going to be a massive temperature difference compared to a 360mm rad (sub 5°C @ 180W for 13900K).
280mm or bigger is fine, you're probably not cooling an i9.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDB3ZBHh5Rk

Niggas… What the fuck is this case? Holy shit, the most beautiful case ever created, this should be considered one of the 8 wonders of the technological world

https://youtu.be/6_Zxzfrqfq8?si=6hPJ8hE4C9CDCJYC

>>106153466
Oh well maybe that was why I did it. I don't remember at all honestly. The Antec C8 radiator mounting is really weird in my opinion. The weight of the radiator sits against the tubes (in the optimal configuration with the tubes traveling down from the pump) and the fans are separated from the radiator by a thin mounting layer in the case. Other cases i looked up don't seem to do that.

NVIDIA WINS AGAIN

16GB ALL YOU NEED TO RUN GPT-OSS-20B

JENSEN NAMED #1 IN FORTUNE POWER LIST

NVIDIA WINS AGAIN

RTX WINS AGAIN

>>106153671
I will not buy Nvidia until they have open source drivers.

>>106153671
based. 5070 super will be mine

AMD Announcing the 9060 8GB has to be a top 10 Anime Betrayal for AMDSteve

maybe that's why they made that video shitting on the 9800X3D calling it useless unless you have a 5090

Should I buy a 9060XT or a 7800XT? They’re about the same price in my cunt. I also play at 1080p and don’t really care about 2k or 4k.

>>106152003
How come PCI SIG can always remain a step ahead of everyone else while the HDMI & DisplayPort Consortium's standards are the second they are announced?

>>106153796
the 9060XT 16GB is the best card at its MSRP price
it's actually a fantastic card
Most people would be fine with it for years it really makes you see how overpriced the 9070XT is when it's not at MSRP

>>106153796
The 7800 XT is about 17% faster.

>amazing gpu deal on amazon
>almost shanked my friend to get the money
>someone mislabeled gpu

>>106153824
Is there a lot of difference between the 8GB vram model and the 16GB one for the 9060XT?

>>106151107
have you ever thought about properly connecting your cable?

>>106153208
works on my machine op

>>106153877
>blacks parts on a white case
Are you stupid?

>>106153860
there is 8GB of difference exactly
get the 16GB, it will keep it usable for years

>>106153860
5% max.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-9060-xt-reaper-8-gb/32.html
Although even at only 1080p, 8GB is gonna have a short shelf-life.

>>106153898
There’s a huge price spike between both of them, my current GPU is 8GB and I never had any problems with it.

>>106153877
fucking swine clean it up

>>106153924
wdym? It’s clean

>>106153782
>AMDSteve
You mean NVSteve

>>106153923
my old ass gpu has 8 gb and that's they only reason it's still usable
if I went with nvidia 4-6gb cards they would be already unusable

>>106153930
that router is covered in dust

Will a 9060XT+5700X3D bottleneck?

>>106153796
neither. 7800xt is old and massively outdated due to no FSR 4 support. the 9060XT is more expensive but worse generally. get a used 4070 instead.

will udna be good when it's released?

>>106153972
Depends on how many exclusives the PS6 has

>>106153984
ps6 is coming out in 2028 at least
i am and talking about udna in 2026

DLSS Foundry
AMD Unboxed
Drama Nexus
Linus Racemixing Tips

>>106153972
>will udna be good when it's released?
IMO right now it's 50/50
1. Going for it, will be the first gen since RNDA 2 back in 2020 to have serious console money funding it to give AMD a reason to financially care about it other than as a dumping ground for extra TSMC wafer orders after minting all the EPYC server dies they need.
2. Going against it, it's going to be their first unified uArch in a while and so we won't know how much of the die is going to be dedicated to Compute/AI that will mean fuck all in gaming like how Ada was great for ML but deeply underwhelming in games compared to Ampere

>>106153671
pay to use your own hardware poggers

>>106153930
>cumstains covered by caked up dust on the router and table leg
>wdym? It's clean
I mean the setup is nice and all, but you're a filthy person.

>still no rtx hdr equivalent for amd
wtf is going on with amd, why do they not care?

>>106154318
>what is fsr
How new are you?

>>106153879
it looks good to me.
you never go full white everything imo because it starts to look too girly.

>>106154333
fsr looks like an oil painting in motion
another reason why amd just doesn't care

>>106154370
AMD software is made in jeetistan. I'm not joking, I'm dead serious, the HQ of AMD software is in some jeet city.
If Lisa Su would rip off that shit-stained bandaid and ship AMD software to South Korea, the US or Germany (INB4 >), they would crush nvidia on software terms (look me in the eyes and shut the fuck up when I'm talking to you, I'm talking about firmware and fsr, not rocm or other big ticket AI items) in two years at most.

>mfw bongs have lower prices than EU countries

is Lian Li A3 fine for a 9070Ti build with air cooling for cpu?

>>106154589
>9070 TI
I see that purposefully confusing naming schemes are working

>>106154589
Lian Li A3
you will regret buying a bland looking mesh box that has the same footprint of a normal mid tower but 50% less room to build in

>>106154691
>bland looking mesh box
you are a faggot if you think there's anything wrong with that

Poorfag here, first time owning a half decent GPU (7900GRE), I know final operating temperature depends a lot on ambient, but what differences should I expect between room temp, GPU temp (average, I guess?) and hot spot temp?

is there a way to verify if listing made by amazon itself is legit?
they cut gpu price by 15% at base compare to other sellers
someone commented that's it's mislabeled, but I don't know how would they know if it's recent
other than price being unbelievable

>>106151538
>I can tell by all the jaggeddness
I cant notice them in motion.

Is an RTX 3060 12GB worth €170?

Will this really make a difference for my 5090? Or does my Gen 4 have enough through put already? Any benchmarks?

Just replaced most of my pc and the CPU seems to be running pretty hot. It's only a 9600x so I expected it to be a bit cooler.
Idle is 50-55 eventually, prime95 gets up to ~72 after a few hours and I've had it reach 83 at the highest when gaming for a while (presumably because the GPU also gets hotter, so there's more heat in the case in general?). I think that stressed temperature is fine (tell me if it isn't!), but should I care about the idle temperature? I just went with some new screws for my AM4 Cooler Master Hyper 212 to make it fit on the AM5 board, so I definitely skimped on it. I only have room for 1 front fan due to the GPU taking up most of the depth of the case, would adding top fans help much? Currently the only case ones I'm using are one front and one back.

>>106154958
top fans should help a lot

>>106154994
Alright, thanks, I'll look into getting some.
Also, I used ~5.5 year old thermal paste, does that matter much?

Not sure if taking a picture of the inside of the case could help.

>>106154958
>Hyper 212
we got aircoolers way better for like $40 now

>>106155001
it's probably fine if it was feeling normal

Ok so my 9800x3d will spike to 95c whenever a game first loads or is compiling shaders but after will settles around ~72c or lower during most game playthroughs. Is this normal? Or did I miss some thermal paste. I have 360mm corsiar h150i aio.

>>106155016
I know, but this option only cost me 6 bucks for some screws, which is why I gave it a go.
>>106155023
Yeah the other tube I had lying around seemed a bit dry, but that one was unused and seemed fine from my limited experience with it.

>>106151887
>DDR6
Well I think I'm glad I did not buy 9950x3d yesterday.
>2028
Oh.

>>106155079
>>Well I think I'm glad I did not buy 9950x3d yesterday.
Better is coming soon
>According to the leak, this chip features a dual-CCD design, with each chiplet pairing 32 MB of on-die cache with 64 MB of stacked 3D V-Cache, marking the first time AMD may ship a desktop CPU with 3D V-Cache on both dies.

>>106145503
I have thoroughly studied the data and the objectively smart course of action is to Just Wait for either 4th or 5th gen WOLED—ideally the latter
thank you for reading my blog

>>106154957
99$ for nothing, damn i can make am4 build here for that money.
>>106154958
I would say laptops cpu runs like that for entire life
>A typical laptop's CPU idle temperature generally ranges from 30°C to 50°C
My gpu the same targeted to 50 C.
Idle is this just windows desktop with no apps running? 55 bit high. My idle at 555 rpm is 45 box cooler Ryzen 2300x. Youtube at 888 rpm 50 C. Full load 67 at 1700 rpm.
>>106155024
95 that a lot, my pc mobo default setting critical temperature is set to 80 (am4). I tested without any cooling on the CPU it just turns off computer when it reaches critical temperature.
You has 95.

>>106155016
fuck you

>>106155168
cry boomer + poorfag + faggot

I got an old X79 board+CPU combo, are there any good air coolers for it that won't cost me 40 bucks? I'm in a shithole rn and everything that's not from AliExpress costs twice as much as it should, and I really couldn't give a shit if it idles at 70C.

Anyone knows/can recommend any more cases like be quiet! Light Base 900 FX as in spacious and can be set on the side/horizontally?

>>106155143
Yeah basically just dicking around in the browser. I guess I'll get some extra fans for the top and see if that helps.

Photo in case it helps

>>106155101
Only having VCache on one CCD was never the issue, the issue has always been the high latency whenever an application's thread count exceeds the core count of 1 CCD and is forced to cross the quick sand pit that is AMD's Infinity Fabric just to get to another CCD instead. A Dual-VCache chip won't change that, only having more cores per CCD will and that will only come with Zen 6.

>>106155246
looks pretty good, that cooler should be definetely enough for a 9600x
could probably move both the fans on top for exhaust for some immediate gains

>>106155246
Try with/without case side panel.
Thats minus 2-3 C.

>>106154863
saw a game strimmer run 1440p and the jaggies looked real bad
rendering at those poverty levels just for fps just can't be worth it

>>106155142
>wait for more woled
it was superseded since 2022
need pure rgb subpixels
LGs tactic at this point is like trying to polish a turd like VA, you can't fix something inherent to a tech, it will never solve the built in flaws
it's over

>>106153952
>bottleneck
is a relative term for the weakest component is the maximum capacity for some tasks
unless you have a ton of budget, don't bother with it, after all everything made with UE5 will run like shit

>woled
you mean the oled version tech that makes the picture less saturated the brighter it gets lol?

>>106155319
>need pure rgb subpixels
they did promise exactly that for 5th gen, unless I'm mistakenly calling it WOLED gen 5 and it's actually gen 1 of something different
4th gen is another slightly better coping solution in the same vein as what they did before albeit

>>106155247
Well I guess those issues have been fixed or AMD was just lying

>>106155340
b-but muh """tandem"""

>>106155340
I mean the version that's literally brighter than every qd-oled panel yes

>>106155191
Most of the time any air cooler is good enough, but the hardware also needs maintenance just remember to change your thermal paste every couple of years

>>106155295
I'll give that a go tomorrow (late EU), though I'll probably end up buying 2 top fans as a low cost/effort solution.
I could also technically add an extra front fan at the bottom by opening that panel up, but I'm still using 2 regular HDD's in there for storage.
>>106155303
Yeah it was a bit cooler with the open case! I'd rather have it closed though, ah.

>>106155392
only in pure white highlights haha
color brightness and volume is way better on qd oled

>>106155382
Both amd AND nvidia tend to lie.

>>106155458
Oh and intel, I forgot about them.

>>106155143
right but my idle temps are ~40c. And running most heavy workloads never gets above 75c. So that leaves me to believe its a might be a sensor issue. Im trying to decide if its worth reposting or trying some other diagnostics first.

>>106155542
it's not a sensor issue
the package temperature on modern AMD (and intel) CPUs report the highest temperature of all cores in the system
so when you're playing a game and 1-2 cores are sitting at 83C it's gonna look like it's getting hotter than all 6 cores do in prime95
look at per-core temperatures in HWINFO, if all of them are hitting 83C in-game you might have a problem

>>106155191
>I got an old X79 board+CPU combo, are there any good air coolers for it that won't cost me 40 bucks? I'm in a shithole rn and everything that's not from AliExpress costs twice as much as it should, and I really couldn't give a shit if it idles at 70C.
Any reasonable dual-tower air cooler should be alright.
Here's a 2-fan 6-heat pipe one for $15:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807284121093.html
And a 3-fan model for ~$23:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807198230379.html

which cpu/gpu are better for rpcs3? for cpu, clock speed is preferable over l3 cache size i imagine?

>>106155016
I paided mine 20 and it just works

>>106155674
>rpcs3

>>106155674
IPC is the preferred metric, BUT rcps3 now supports AVX512 extensions, so Zen processors beat intel
you'll get close to top performance with a €270 9700X

Do true PCIE 5.0 riser cables exist yet?

>>106155784
AM4 bros...

>>106155784
>>106155836
nice, wanted that 9700x anyway

Somebody in the previous thread made a tierlist of brands selling the 9070xt. He put sapphire and powercolor as the top choices. Does anyone know what he based it on?

>>106155906
his opinion, but he's right

>>106155906
i hope he based it on memory temps because my TUF 9070 XT is hitting 90C in literally everything

>>106155906
sapphire is a good vendor for sure
(though googlel ai says their gpu failure rate is one of the highest in data centers)

>>106155674
use xenia. runs way better.

>>106156031
thanks, for some reason i was too retarded to even look into xbox emulation

>>106151259
>Asus anything
come on nigga, even that PSU could be compromised with malware, specially the motherboard

but also, how big is the difference between b850 and x870 boards? the pcie lanes shit keeps tripping me up

>>106155101
On the way isn't good enough. I'm not going to wait another 3 months for a cpu that could still have the latency issues

So AM5 motherboards "with PCIe 5.0 support" can be limited to storage only without supporting 5.0 graphics cards? I already have a NVMe that I don't plan to upgrade but it would be pretty stupid to buy a motherboard that won't support 5.0 graphics in 2025, right? What's the easiest way to tell that they mean PCIe 5.0 support for your graphics card? Even official sites of motherboard manufacturers are confusing

>>106155869
Its just copper wires. Good clean copper wire will support pcie 5-6-7-8 versions.

What is the best driver version for RTX 4000 series GPU? And by that I mean most stable.

>>106156169
Nobody is safe from malware now that bios chips are their own OS. Every manufacturer had to patch this kind of vulnerabilities in their mobos. ASUS bios is the most user-friendly and they put in decent audio codecs into their expensive boards.

are ultrawides a meme

>>106156548
it would be a bit annoying to turn them vertical to read manga

>>106156492
That's what seems to be the case. I can't find any actual difference in standards between Gen3-5 riser cables. I figure its more about shielding retaining signal.

>>106156556
i have a tablet for that

>>106156548
One of my friends is a video editor and likes his for video editing

>>106156548
How wide are we talking?

>>106156548
it's one of those things you should definitely see in person before buying.

>>106155906
the tierlist is highest boost clocks (12vhpwr/triple 8-pin) to lowest boost clocks (2x8-pin)

>>106154318
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htWYRe-hy00
Why do you care? RTX HDR is trash anyway that crushes blacks, clips, and costs FPS. It is inferior to other solutions. If you want HDR in a game you do it the proper way and get RenoDX or some other mod not this AI garbage. I guess its convenient though for nviditoddlers who are incapable of modding and other basic computer shit.

>>106154318
>The AMD Radiance Display Engine is a technology integrated into AMD's RDNA GPU architecture, designed to enhance visual fidelity and support advanced display features. It enables high resolutions, refresh rates, 12-bit HDR, and full REC2020 color reproduction

AMD doesn't need fake HDR in software when their display controller does everything natively.

>>106157067
see, Nvidia needs fake HDR in software because their GPUs can't do it in hardware.

>switch from AMD to intel
>memory latency goes through the roof but ONLY on windows
guess i need to reinstall
what a piece of shit OS

>>106151107
>when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire
we have come full circle

>>106157155
you're not describing what you think you're describing

so done with this paste leaking out of my 5080 and all these fucking driver issues. i was in the middle of scrolling zachs tech turf instagram when my whole screen wen static. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 9070xt. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the DLSSschizo ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 5070ti fuck it idc anymore

>nvidiots can't come up with their own shitposts so they have to steal from radeon kings like the niggers they are
Pathetic

>>106157448
>radeon-tards can't turn on raytracing or dlss so they have to make shitposts about Nvidia king products they don't make enough rupees to buy
Pathetic

>>106151000
You'll also need to switch to Linux though. AMD has a good driver on Linux, but on windows it's garbage like Nvidia.

Radeon sisters, how do respond to nvidiots when they discover this?

why cant everything just fucking work?!?!?why?!?!

>>106157551
just use linux like you're supposed to
PROTON_FSR4_UPGRADE=1
works with everything

>>106155247
The issue with having a 2nd non3d cc'd is that even if the thread doesn't have to synchronize with other cores across the IF link, your performance ceiling effectively becomes gimped to the level of a 9700x because of the lack of vcache

>>106157712
it wouldn't be an issue if AMD just treated the second CCD like an E-core cluster
don't put anything important on there unless you really have to
but they want to utilize the frequency CCD as much as possible so the 9950X3D looks good in cinebench ST

>>106156503
561.09, 566.36 or you can try the latest 580.88

What, if anything, can I do about fixing coil whine? It's so damn loud, I wouldn't be bothered but it's my media center PC that's started doing it.

>>106157854
take it apart and hot glue the offending choke or other component down to the board and hope it goes away

>>106157854
try mess with gpu wattages
change system fps cap
replace the psu

>>106154691
A3 is bigger than my case and I have perfectly fine temps. I can fit a 5090 in here if I wanted to. Cable management in the A3 would be better too since there's more room to route the cables in the back.

>>106157551
Just using godlike Xess

>>106157551
This makes radeon drivers more interesting and is a good thing in my opinion

>>106157551
lmfao poodeon AI generated drivers

>>106155977
my 9070 xt goes straight to 72-74c and stays there on water lol, very annoying

my RTX 5090 sits at 50c

>>106158254
my dick

>>106151000
You fell for the Nvidia jew driver upgrade scam, didnt you?

I was like you once. Naive and trusting.

I then realized that all driver updates are scams once you get a working driver installed. Game companies use this to blame their jeet code on nvidia and vice versa so nobody is accountable.

>Previously stable game starts crashing
>Ignore the "update your driver" lie
>Play another game for 2-3 weeks so the jeet developers patch their shit game code
>Go back in 3 weeks and voila! the game works with the old drivers I never upgraded.

I hope this wisdom finds you well anon. I paid dearly for this wisdom.

Is it normal for a game to push my 9800x3d to the 95° max temp when launching it or should I be concerned? It quickly goes back down to around 45-50 afterwards.

people who browsed pcbg pre-2025 must remember how much less bad it was that threads have been recently
small number of shitposters 100% turned them into brand war shit you'd expect from console wars in early 2010

Is moot ever gonna fix things. 4chan is uniquely vulnerable to spam and derailment after all.

>>106158332
it was just as bad when RDNA2 was competitive with ampere

>>106155869
>Do true PCIE 5.0 riser cables exist yet?
HYTE just today released their "PCIe 5.0 Hyper Riser Cable" for their Y-series cases. Maybe that'll be a "true" one.

>>106151259
>8 core in the year of our tranny 2025

>>106158311
you replied to a pasta ritual poster

>>106158342
>RDNA2 was competitive with ampere
Literally never happened
DLSS vs FSR immediately killed that out of the gate even if raw performance was there.

>>106158394
didn't stop AMD troons from pretending they were winning and that DLSS was worthless

>>106158399
3080 launch was pretty significant
it was dampened by corona and cryptomoning rather than amd who also enjoyed selling shit to cryptominers instead of gamers
and in the meanwhile nvidia gained overwhelming 90% marketshare

Bought my motherboard, 5 parts left to go

>>106158332
why does it bother you so much that only 1 nvidia card is worth buying and only for the fact that it is the fastest gpu on sale

>>106156588
Gen5 slots require a backdrilled construction instead of gen3/4's through-hole construction for one

>>106158328
It's normal if it's using 100% of the CPU to compile shaders

>Finally mostly matches the featureset (still no rr but that was 3 years later I guess) and RT performance of Ampere (2020)
>Since like a month after release pricing basically the same or higher than Nvidia equivalent
>FSR4 realistically not getting any better
What actually happened behind the scenes for nearly every tech "journalist" or youtuber to shill RDNA4?
It's calming down now but you can still go to any pc gaming or hardware subreddit/forum/whatever and it's like at least 50% niggers shilling the 9070xt (and Ryzen but at least there's something to that). Why does god allow this to happen? Somehow these places are almost entirely supposedly 9070/xt owners

>>106158479
noice

>>106158601
people like narratives and nvidia having poor launch was one
you just get clicks on videos that affirm peoples existing beliefs

>>106150421
>Needed to make room for the thermal paste section
No you didn't. You're just a autist with control issues wanting to stamp your mark on the OP.

>>106158601
These influencers know that whatever they do, the masses will continue buying prebuilts with Nvidia graphics anyway

Are the different grades of thermal paste an actual scam or do they affect temperatures meaningfully?

>>106158696
as long as you're not using shit-tier thermal paste or toothpaste, it doesn't really matter all that much

>>106155024
>>106155542
No, it will get hot when compiling shaders. Capped at 95 means it is throttling. Hovering around 90 is expected and means it is not being held back. Four things:
1. hot ambient temp will hamper cooling. Also ensure the case fans are feeding enough to the AIO,
2. Poor application of paste or loose mounting,
3. AIO pump and fan speeds not tweaked for efficiency; slower pumps can work better than 100%,
4. Please don't have forgotten to take off the plastic cover from the cold plate.

>>106158601
yea dude everyone else has it wrong, my 9070 xt benchmarks better than every single 5070 ti on earth lol

Any downsides to getting a more powerful psu than I need?

>>106158725
Who cares what timespy says when it averages out still slower than a 5070ti in real games?

>>106158750
Worse efficiency at lower loads

>>106158750
money
PSU recommendations are already too high because they work best around 50% draw and that also leaves room for future upgrades
but going even higher will loose some efficiency

>>106158601
Vocal minority is vocal minority.

It also stems from an evolutionary strategy; contrarianism is a natural part of it. A herd may be safe in known grazing areas and migratory paths, but having offshoots (contrarians) that explore other options (by doing the exact opposite thing every time) can increase the chances that the herd as a whole will never die out due to unforeseen circumstances since a known alternative path has been trailblazed ahead of time. In order for this to work, the Contrarian offshoots must be wholly convinced of the superiority of their methods, especially if they are intelligent creatures, otherwise it would be rational to just return to the herd. Hence they will be vehemently vocal about it, but even more so if there are signs that their alternate paths are actually not as good as the baseline and might be causing the Contrarian faction to be dying out instead. They will do everything to keep their faction populated for obvious reasons.

>>106158705
i need a chart comparing different bulk pastes found on aliexpress like gd2 and gd900

I saw one other guy say in the archive but I'll say it too for anyone else like me checking, my aliexpress 5700x3d died.
Something catastrophically shorted in the chip, instantly trips on boot. No other visible damage and old cpu boots up just fine when I swap it back in. Couple other reports from places like reddit. I'm guessing these were QC failures. Ran for about a year paid 136 bucks.

>>106158601
Also there's just the audience bias. Blackbird Tech is a smaller channel that pointed this out to me (was it in the talk collab with Jufes?); AMD Steve 1 and AMD Steve 2's public reactions may not necessarily reflect their true feelings. Their content is AMD biased because they have cultivated a viewer base that is AMD biased, chicken and egg problem notwithstanding. If they release a video praising AMD, they get clicks and ratings and ad revenue. If they release a video bashing AMD or otherwise advertising Nvidia/Intel in a strong way, they lose clicks and subs. This means big channels like these are simply financially incentivized to keep catering to their audience.

>>106158775
I just wanted a midrange GPU for a decent price, anon. It’s as deep as your analysis that I didn’t bother to fully read would suggest. A $600 OC 9070XT was simply the best deal out there and I took it.

You don't need a powerful cpu or gpu. You will realize it sooner.

>>106152038
Gigabyte aorus xtreme allows that too

I bought a sk hynix consumer ssd and it came in faggy eco-friendly packaging and now I don't know how to feel about my purchase

>>106158791
Someone probably swiped the cpus that were failing qc from the factory

>>106159111
throw some plastic into the ocean to offset your purchase

>new AMD driver update causes games to crash when using FSR4
LOL

>>106159190
Saar, big sorry, plis no angry, I fix, I fix!

>>106158601
>>(still no rr but that was 3 years later I guess)
That is coming out with FSR redstone before the year is over
>>RT performance of Ampere (2020)
Lie. Over 100 benchmarks and Daniel Owen a smaller channel that you can't slander as "biased" found no advantage in raytracing for the 5070 ti against the 9070 XT
>>FSR4 realistically not getting any better
FSR 4 is already very good (better than DLSS 3 and close to DLSS 4 in image quality) and there is no reason RDNA 4 won't get better future versions of FSR 4 in the future since it has proper AI Tensor cores unlike previous RDNA generations.

>>106158601
>>Since like a month after release pricing basically the same or higher than Nvidia equivalent
Called out by the tech media channels you claim are shills, both HUB and Gamers Nexus made videos calling the MSRP fake and critiquing AMD for it.

The only one shilling is you with this disingenuous post that reeks of fanboyism. Radeon finally came out with a generation that is competitive while Nvidia shot themselves in the foot over and over with numerous controversies causing bad PR so of course there are more negative videos about Nvidia than AMD currently. And now you are here crying about it in this thread due to your brand loyalty.

>>106159251

>>106158791
That really sucks but it's also cool that you can get really advanced 7nm chips for just 130 bucks new
Would've been awesome if I could get new QC failed 14900ks for fun in overclocking

>>106158601
you cant just call shill anything you dont agree with
i dont see you using the same retarded arguments with gay chasers, pudget system or whoever else is on the other side of the grass
a couple of threads ago a retard refused to buy a amd cpu because it was shilled hard here, /v/edditcord and all the places he used to visit
>not gonna buy that 2500k because every retard here shilled it non-stop, gonna get the chapest via chip instead

>>106151137
That’s neat anon. I didn’t know that and now i do, thanks to you.

Completed it on Intel Arc.
Advice next game to complete.

>>106157741
That's not AMD, it's a windows issue.
For linux they have written a driver and you can change the CCD priority with a one liner

>>106151144
better than AMD lmao

Anyone got a decent guide to understanding and tuning DDR5 RAM timings, as well as general AM5 overclocking/undervolting? I've got a 7900X and a 32GB (2x 16) 6000 MT/s CL30 kit and feel like doing some tweaking.

>>106159507
Buildzoid guide is all you need but your kit isn’t Hynix

>>106159507
>https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/887888/post/117158469
Just follow the v0.5 guide's verified timings and optionally, test stability with y-cruncher vt3 or testmem5 anta777 absolute
Enjoy

are there any of those gay little gif displaying lcd parts that work with troonix? (not needing proprietary shitware constantly in background that are usually windows only)

>"unhandy mounting solution"
Protip: cut this lil nigga off
That way, no hassle if you want to later swap the wire from the "all in one" to the one w/ separate pump/fans/vrm-fan signals
Otherwise you have to tuck those wires down and under a tab, or unmount the thing

>>106151137
>>106159290
There's a machinist on YT, Robin Renzetti, who sometimes makes bespoke audiophile stuff.

The first time I saw his incredibly precise method for cutting wires to the *exact* same length, that's what I thought about.

>>106151137
>5ghz
What does that make modern 6ghz and upcoming 7ghz CPUs

>>106157744
Thank you, anon, I have heard good things about 566.36 too.

This chinaman is saying consumer PCs do not work with his RAM, but my motherboard's "ECC Memory (ECC mode) support varies by CPU" and ryzen 5700x3d connected to it seems to support these as well.
What to believe?

>>106160108
He's probably selling registered dimm (rdimm) which only works on epycs and xeons. What you want is unregistered dimms (udimm) that supports ecc

>>106152207
>9800X3D and a 9070 XT. I decided to stress-test it with Cyberpunk, a game which is practically a tech demo for Nvidia at this point. As expected, turning on raytracing medium dropped the framerate down to between 50-60, though since I'm using a shitty old 60hz monitor that doesn't actually matter
I have a 5700x and a 9070xt and get 60fps in 4k with raytracing on high

>>106152872
It's sad really. Msi used to be ranked as mid tier and now nvidia drove all the other board partners away

>>106152921
I hate videos like this so fucking much

>>106153090
>itx

>>106159748
Just add a chinkpi to it to run the displays and even more linux

>>106150902
More vram won't give you more performance. The 5090 will still look like a different gen from the rest

So when should we expect Nvidia price drops to take effect?

>>106160256
The 5080 is by far the most cucked card

>>106160266
More vram won't give you more performance.

>>106160265
November so people wont return cards en masse when the supers come out in january

>>106160276
Yes, it will. You don't coomgen do you?

Ordered the hellhound 9070 XT. Did I fuck up?
>just buy nvidia
I don't want my monitor to turn off :(

>>106160281
Of course not, I'm not a tranny

>>106160292
Gamers rise up

What brand of 5070 TI is good? I first wanted the 9070 XT, but I kinda wanna dabble in AI stuff (for ejaculation purposes).

My Corsair SF Series Platinum SF450 gave up.
Just shy of 7 years.

Whilst gaming yesterday PC suddenly lost all power.
Cannot restart it anymore, cable is fine.

Damn it

>>106160386
the cheapest one

>>106160386
Doesnt 9070XT have ROCm for AIshit?

>>106160573
>doesn't my product have thing I don't know about that caters to you?

Damn it, this nasty. SFX PSUs all start at 750 Watts now and cost over 160 Euros.

Total overkill

>>106160614
Go 1200w or go home

>>106155357
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/#True_RGB
Says LG Is considering making true rgb panels in 2026
I don't think they will since they have tandem oled coming out
idk

>>106155392
hmm

this xess 2.1 thing is pretty okay, tested it in 2077 but I also slap RCAS on top of it with optiscaler, looks crisp with no artifacts

What size should I get for thermal pad on my gpu? I can't seems to find the exact size for it
t. Asrock Challenger Pro RX 6600 XT

>>106160705
then you gotta take it apart and measure with a caliper
wrong sized thermal pads can fuck your gpu over

>>106160713
>caliper
I wouldn't want to pay an extra if that possible. What do you think about thermal putty?

>>106160731
putty should work good, yeah

>>106160705
get tehrmal putty to avoid mistakes like this

>>106159560
I tried going with the suggested timings and I had to do a hard reset (unplug power cord, remove CMOS battery) just to get my PC to POST again. What the fuck did I do wrong?

>>106159552
It is hynix afaik

>>106160671
It works wonders for UE4 games. Stellar Blade and Wuthering Waves ghosting is fixed once you switch from DLSS/TAAU to Xess2.

>>106160812
The timings are for 16gbit A-die which runs the tightest timings among all current ddr5 ICs
6000cl30 can either be 16gbit m-die, 16gbit A-die or 24gbit m-die

is cpu cooler sag a thing?

I stand corrected, PSU is over 7 years old, so outside of guarantee, about half a year.
How convenient…

It will be cheaper to buy a new case which can fit in an ATX sized PSU instead of getting a SFX.
My over 10 years old PSU in the office PC still works even when rarely cleaned from dust.

Next one wont be Corsair.

>>106160879
Kinda? It depends on how long and heavy your heatsink is relative to the case and motherboard.

>>106160930
my heat sink is around 1000g not including fans
also my mobo is atx but it's now kind of old and it does have a slight bend to it

>>106160946
It should be fine unless the case is tipping back and forth or you can't close the window.

>>106160879
Nothing some string can't fix.

>>106160928
psu dead? my corsair psu (made by seasonic) lasted like 12-13 years and it had a 5 year warranty back then
I probably ran it underpowered by alot but 247 use almost still

>>106161093
That SFX is Platinum level, 450 Watts with Ryzen 5 1600 CPU and GTX1070.
No OC, max. 260 Watts drawn when gaming.

>>106160812
If it’s Hynix use the buildzoid ones, they should work out of the box 99% of the times. Could be tightened more depending on how lucky with the silicon lottery you are. But still I saw a 20% latency improvement on a 2x48 6000 cl30 kit

>>106160812
>I had to do a hard reset (unplug power cord, remove CMOS battery) just to get my PC to POST again
You need to give it 2 minutes to boot after changing those settings because of memory training

what's the cheapest way to get vram for aislop?

>>106161258
$400 rtx4060ti 16gb
$600 rtx3090 24gb
$2000 amd ai max+ 395 128gb

>>106161249
I waited 45 minutes, then tried restarting it, kept hanging and wouldn't even POST.

>>106161397
Maybe you have 16gbit m-die which can't run the same set of timings

>move Win10 from old hardware to new
>remove old drivers install new ones
>bareboles no bloatware
>connect to internet
>MICROSOFT STORE INSTALLED SHIT ON YOUR PC HAHA NEED RESTART!
AAAAAAAA THERE ARE JEWS IN MY COMPUTER!

>>106161414
I'll try tweaking them incrementally instead of going straight for the "optimum" settings, some of the recommended jumps seem quite large like the tREFI (stock is 11677, they're saying to go 50000), or things like almost halving my tWR and various other timings.

In any case, the kit is a G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB, but I don't know how to tell exactly what kind of chips it has.

>>106161468
you can tell what you have by checking the code like on picrel
A = newer 16gbit A-die
M = older 16gbit M-die

So kind of following anon-advice I recently upgraded to picrel from msi z87-g43/i5 3.4GJZ 4670k

So, I guess, now I want to upgrade my graphics card to something low-mid range, may be used. Tought about Arc A770 or something like this. Probably would prefer slight more expensive NVIDIA for stability and compatability (i play old games mostly, 1440p though).

Please advice.

>>106161516
Rtx5060 should work fairly well in old games

>>106161516
Also consider the 4060ti since it supports 32bit physx used in older games that rtx5000 dropped support for

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>>106161502
It's an M die then, thanks anon. I might just stick with the EXPO default settings, they're perfectly stable and my PC is pretty well fast enough anyway.

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>>106161558
shouldnt I aim for something for more vram? I am playing old games like SC2 or even seven kingdoms from time to time but somethimes i go with bf 1 and probably will try to try BF6 - so isnt more VRAM important? Like 12 gb?

>>106161635
I'm not aware of any older games bottlenecking on 8gb vram tb h
But if you think 8gb isn't enough, the step up to 4060ti 16gb and 5060ti 16gb would be the next best choice unless you look for used 3080ti and 4070 12gb GPUs