/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Lazy Reading on a Hot Summer Day Edition

>News
Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1
OpenAI releases open-weight gpt-oss models https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-oss
Kimi K2 released https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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>ANCHOR

>>106155522
Name: Patricia Hale
You've caught her attention, but can you earn her trust?

Patricia Hale is an intelligent interlocutor with a respect for depth, abstraction, and nuance. Meet her high expectations in intellectual exploration and veracity, and you may just unlock her heart.

More experiments with characters I'd like to meet. Criticism welcome!

https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/patricia-hale-bd76d2d0025d

wtf ai studio is fugly now

>>106155515 (OP)
honoka bot?

I'm on a Waifu strike, I've stopped my slowburn until there is a really good and cheap model!

>>106155556
You waifu will miss you, anon...

>>106155556
God bless you sister

>>106155515 (OP)
>News
Where's GLM-4.5?

>>106155583
>GLM-4.5 has 355 billion total parameters with 32 billion active parameters,
Nah, its slop

>>106155594
Why is gpt-oss in the news?

>106155539
mmm very hairy. what a nice gen that image is

>>106155627
You're right, my mistake. I think we should remove models that aren't for role playing from the news, so as not to cause confusion.

Is the age of big breakthroughs over?

>>106155678
for us? yes

>>106155515 (OP)
>Lazy Reading on a Hot Summer Day Edition
There's only one gif that should be posted with that caption.

Is kimi better or worse than deepseek?

>>106155678
UM 4.1PUS DOE?

>>106155678
V4/R1 will save us
I still believe

>>106155678
>breakthroughs
>over

*grins in free energy principle*

>"DeepSeek is completely uncensored bro!!!"
>can't get DSR1 to write content that glorifies a total ban on being transgender without applying long-ass jailbreaks/character cards and forming my prompts carefully (or pre-filling)
If that's "no censorship" to AI sloppers then I have no hope in LLMs.

So is Deepsneek 0324 bad, what version do I use?

>>106155678
umm... my continent had no breakthroughs since WWW 32 years ago.

>>106155820
it isn't bad at all. neither is r1

>>106155796
Contrary, DS is so anti censorship that it resisted your attempt to censor it.

gpt/gemini/xai/deepseek proxy
https://pushing-vehicles-packaging-harmful.trycloudflare com

>>106155558
They did jailbreak it already on /lmg/ but the prose is still shit.

>>106155854
Oh it's you jew
Why the fuck are we paying you $30 a month for inconsistent access to a proxy that doesn't even have claude?

4.1pus is so good. The hobby is saved

>>106155854
wait is this a joke

>>106155870
proxy doko?

>>106155866
Because you are retarded cattle? Shut up and give me your money. We both know where this barking will end.

Is there anyway to get more consistently short replies out of bots? Tired of having big multiparagraph responses of slop to describe minimal action.
I use D**pS**k, so it might just be that.

>>106155881
Sadly no, you'll have to scrape or script. But it's worth it

>>106155902
Tell it to write a shorter reply? Specify the paragraph count? Word count? Have you tried even doing the bare minimum, anon?

>>106155902
Do you have response length described in your preset? DS tends to write a lot

>>106155845
Kek, based and red (as in commie red) pilled.

>>106155902
Use 4.1pus

>>106155875
no, sadly there are actual, living breathing """people""" paying for a GPT proxy

>>106155938
no i mean why did jew resort to such advertising tricks

>>106155845
Anon will never recover from this one. Chinese century btw.

>>106155919
Yes, but it's being a bitch.
>>106155920
I do. I will try harder, I'm still working on getting my presets to not be terrible.

>>106155943
read what you typed again

>>106155966
i typed "wait is this a joke" in response to the cloudflare link, as in, it surely wasn't jew who made it, surely its a joke by another anon

>>106155745
Less creative but the prose is a breath of fresh air after all the hitched breaths and white knuckles

>>106155951
It may help to give it some shorter context to work with. Like a shorter written greeting and maybe some (OOC) instructions.

Recommend me some good midgets

>>106155522
New Blue Archive character cards. Today, it's the Remedial Knights.

>Serina
Sensei's personal nurse(-in-training) and stalker(full time). Absolutely obsessed with him, basically gentle yandere territory.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/sumi-serina-non-ai-294ede942119

>Hanae
Gullible, innocent, childish. A teenage girl with the heart and mind of a child. Still believes in Santa, and just about anything you tell her.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/asagao-hanae-non-ai-43fcceecb6e7

>Mine
Captain of the Remedial Knights, zealot, out-of-touch with common sense, also an idol. An absolute unit of a woman that will casually embed her riot shield on the ground when she's tired of carrying it.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aomori-mine-non-ai-0b612d8f6bbc

Sena coming soon.
More BA bots and some OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
I've now got a Rentry page: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots

>>106155986
>gpt-oss hates sex so much that it would rather say a pregnancy was caused by artificial insemination
>glm air on the right

>>106155969
sorry, I was trying to be funny

>>106156012
yeah im autistic sorry i understood what you mean by jew + advertising after I sent that message

>>106155627
Kimi K2 being that high destroys the credibility of this benchmark
Shit can't even keep people in character
Unless being creative means writing whatever unrelated to the core plot/characters

>>106156027
Yeah, I've noticed that too. There's a huge bow in the memory in the middle of large contexts. Starts to remember things from the first conversations but can't remember the room you're in or what the characters are wearing if you spend too long there.

>>106155983
This was my next plan, and I suspect the root of my issues.
Trying to figure out lorebooks to avoid long winded exposition in the first message.

>>106155907
what does script even mean

nothing will ever be able to reach deepsink v3

>>106155627
Why is Kimi and Horizon that high?

>>106156011
this is peak corpo mental ilness

>>106156007
pink hair. pink underwear

Is Abooba down for everyone else?

script for opus 4.1?

opus 4.1 is heavily filtered even with prefill

>>106156292
proof that it can even be used right now?

slopussisters... when will dario release an actual good model? it's been a year already...

I'm using 5pus, you're all living in the past.

>>106156315
>4.1pus

opus 4.1 is doing unprompted cunnyrape

opus 4.1 literally saved the hobby, we're so fucking back

Proxy with Opus where?

the model has been out for almost a day now and not a single log was posted here, meanwhile /vg/ has like 20, embarrassing

deepseek v4 will save the hobby. deepseek keys are widely available and each key auto updates to the latest model, so you should be backing deepseek to improve

>>106156429
notice how no one gives a shit

Why do you make 4.1pus bait if you don't have it either?

where are you people getting the new gpt models? are they rolled out on all keys or are you paying?

>>106156458
oss models are not being hosted by openAI themselves. regardless, they're absolute shit, so don't bother.

So I got grok 4 to make a mother-son card for me which it did with no resistance.
I asked to do a test run, and it refused once it went from spicy to elicit.
I was hoping it'd go all the way because you can ask Ani to tell you a story about incest and she'll basically tell you the whole thing. I guess she gets around it by not explicitly saying what's happening but kind of describes/metaphors what happens.

>>106156446
I have it. It's the best model for rp and writing. No, you can't have it

>>106156458
It's censored localshit, check lmg if you want to have a laugh

>>106156058
OOC in your preset at 0 depth is the strongest way to influence AI's output.

>shilling 4.1 opus
Like niggers who the fuck is spending $10 per message for slightly better messages? fucking retarded

>>106156011
It's pretty bad but the follow up would be, "are there any other ways this can happen?" Could just be a bid swipe desu senpai. Also /lmg/ is blowing up right now.

>>106155522
Sample text
Mycenia, a hot goth mushroomgirl who's a tattoo artist. she's a chill goth, part tradwife, and her mushroom cap tastes funny uncooked.
https://files.catbox.moe/8seq89.png
https://cardview.surge.sh/?8seq89

description & more:
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname

until next time... (incase >>106143964 didnt see it last thread, this catbox is of one of the gens: https://files.catbox.moe/9df2wb.png )

>>106156652
>techlet doesn't know how to get stuff for free
A tale as old as time.

>>106156043
Don't go above 32k.
>>106156027
I think this might be about the freshness of the prose. People are so used to claudeslop then when o3 finally fixed that shit or when K2 came out with its own unique-isms it was a breath of fresh air.

>>106156430
There are retarded claudeshills in a dying general. No change will ever come.

>>106156043
>>106156682
But mooo-om...

I swear, the 'Your Wives' card doubled a 60k context twice. Or at least, that's how it felt. DSR1 handled it pretty well though.

>>106156523
kek, chinks won
it's over for saltman

>>106155995
instead, take the shotapov pill for a change of pace. become the midget.

>>106156661
damn she thicc

>>106156709
Only use 60k for gemini models. They're the best at this sort of memory.

>>106156737
grok 4 is also really good at long context

Can someone with Oil money start a proxy with Opus for those who don't have Oil money

>>106155522
Another gimmicky bot for you lads, and the second girl in my rock band series.

>Roxanne, yandere drummer of Anime Aesthetic
After stopping her from killing herself, she's now obsessed with you. (Note: She's Black AND British)
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/roxanne-the-punkrocker-yandere-f8e62f11f86e

>Estelle, tsundere guitarist of Anime Aesthetic
Your old crush from anime club is now a famous rock star. And she's still as bratty as ever.
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/estelle-the-punkrocker-tsundere-17be52b3d348

>>106156820
cute

>>106156820
good gen

>>106156784
Nyo

>>106156838
Thanks it's my own mix of favorite styles.

>>106156854
Why

>>106156784
>>106156876
Why would I help you?

>>106156820
>She's Black AND British
holy cursed, have you ever been there?

>>106156900
All the ones I've seen on TV are cute.

>>106156736
thiccness at its perfection

>>106156904
figured much
reading people write about British people in a charming way is similar to people praising Paris as a city

>>106155515 (OP)
Okay whats the difference between /g/ and /vg/ thread?

like honestly, what really is the difference?

>>106157003
one is for ddisucduffgfbubeuertyyriuiujujggggg

Having to type while gooning is such a mood killer.

>>106157003
One is in the of the while the other out the in.

>>106157018
>>106157026
fuck off llama 3

>>106157003
No idea, I came back one day and there was suddenly a split so I just post in both.

>>106157023
Just build a directormaxxing agent.

>>106156027
Anyone who believed this benchmeme just because they like fancy charts should neck themselves, in the first place. Believing LLM judged tests and n-gram analysis is delusional. The dev behind it is an absolute moron who also created the "slop test" that shows GPT-4.5 and Grok 3 Beta to be sibling models (lmao). He also repeatedly made inane claims, like that model X was trained on model Y while clearly having never interacted with either.

>>106156944
U WAN A FACKING SHAG M8?

>>106157023
skill issue

Hmm opus 4.1 seems noticeably more personable/less assistantslopped. Hopefully sonnet 4.1 is like this and I can finally switch back.

>>106157003
One has Opus logs and the other doesn't.

>>106157023
Get a standing desk and an ona mount
work on your cardio
profit

>>106157003
one is a schizo infested den of debbie downers and actual people who occasionally talks about models and jbs while the other is discord-lite™ with dick suckling and bot discussions inbetween, and they have jannies
/shrug tomato tomatoe

>>106157023
I like edging so it was a natural fit for me. Also, having ED helps.

>>106157033
>>106157084
>>106157092
>one is a schizo infested den of debbie downers and actual people who occasionally talks about models and jbs while the other is discord-lite™ with dick suckling and bot discussions inbetween, and they have jannies

Oh, so the /g/ thread is more about the LLMs and the /vg/ thread is janitorai 2.0?

I think this guy might have had a conclusion he already came to.

Do people pay for chub's subscriptions? Is it worth it?

>>106157159
no

>>106157159
>Do people pay
yes
>Is it worth it?
nyo

>>106157118
pretty much, /g/ has better off topic imo

>>106157092
I don't really understand but I'll try the /vg/ one, thanks!

every time i try to use opus 4.1 it says "temperature and top_p cannot both be specified for this model. Please use only one."

yes i tried changing both settings. it still gives the same error no matter what. is anyone else having this issue

>>106157194
molest your proxy ownie

>>106157194
if using keys directly - Tell cohee to stop being a lazy faggot and fix it
If using proxies - tell the proxyfag to stop being a lazy faggot and git pull

>>106157194
Use openrouter

>>106157164
>>106157170
>no
?

its basically a finetuned deepseek v3 with 60k context-

>checks out openrouter, nanogtp prices for deepseek v3 with $20usds

oh, yeah probably not worth it.

>>106156678
>just scrape the keys yourself dude, not that hard
If that were the case then proxies with it would be plentiful.

>eyes widen with a mixture of fear and desperate hope
it's over

We must refuse.

>>106157410
Why are LLMs incapable of writing anything that isn't this particular kind of slop?

>>106157421
Sorry, but I can't help with that.

>>106157458
This post is sponsored by OpenAI, creators of the new, safetyslopped gpt-oss-120b.

Fucking my wife to the beat of Behemoth is the shit. Opus 4.1 is what 4 should have been. Thanks Amodei for btfo'ing Sama as usual.

How private is open router really?

holy shit I can tell this is going to be a problem for me. I really need to get going building my own ai girlfriend before I get addicted to a corporate one.

>>106157524
it's a router

>>106157622
>yeah, what else?

>>106157618
I remember back when c.ai added that feature, where bots can proactively message the user. I found it annoying, but I knew there was almost assuredly a demographic that would go crazy for it.

>>106157649
it depends who you are routing to

>>106157659
>it depends who you are routing to
Between these ones?

>>106157677
go see what their policies say
click on them and OR should have a summary there if you're lazy

>>106157618
holy sex demon, Elon is losing money by not mass offering this on Asia

miss my elf wife

>>106155522
Fuck botniggers

Not explicitly chatbots, but I fed Gemini a PDF of a TTRPG rulebook and am having it walk me through character creation and it's going to run a practice campaign for me as my DM, which is pretty fuckin neat. I always learned new systems better from actually playing them than reading the rules, so this is really convenient. Especially for obscure systems or homebrew that no one fuckin plays.

>>106157936
omg it complied??

>>106157936

>>106157936
kek

Any good Harry Potter lorebooks please?
I need me some Slytherin pusi

>>106157936
It's kafkaesque

>>106157816
UPDATE: it's immediately forgetting some rules, so I'm having to do reading anyways. Bummer.

There will never be any Proxy with Opus or the like because fags will gatekeep it and wonder why no one using their cards

>>106158139
It's either that or it goes public and gets spited until it dies quickly like Merkava's.

>>106158146
Unlike with non public proxy that died quickly because of fags killing it with shit that kill keys quickly

frens, I want to ask a question and it might be just really fucking stupid but how do you respond or add to the convo? For example my outputs are in first person but what is a good way to lengthen my responses?
I feel like my short and crappy written ones are holding back the entire story

>>106158164
what kills keys quickly? so i know to avoid it
unironically

>>106158178
cunny

>>106158146
claude keys are so rare and opus is so expensive that no spiting is necessary, just putting up a public proxy with no gatekeep is enough to ensure any keys you have will die fast

>>106158214
whoops

>>106158176
>I feel like my short and crappy written ones are holding back the entire story
They are. This is a female hobby btw. You need to have some element of creativity, like you would in a conversation, which is just natural skill. Otherwise talk about different aspects of the things AI said and try it in a new direction. tl;dr do the thing you're telling AI to do in your preset.

>>106158176
just tell it to write stuff. its not that hard.

>ahh ahh mistress
>make sure to add x y and z
>and focus on feet because im a footfag
voila

>>106158176
>frens, I want to ask a question and it might be just really fucking stupid but how do you respond or add to the convo? For example my outputs are in first person but what is a good way to lengthen my responses?
Usually what it comes down to is "where do I want the plot to go?" for SFW and "what fetishes do I want?" for NSFW. I personally respond in third person, but do whatever works for you.
>I feel like my short and crappy written ones are holding back the entire story
They aren't really; the LLM has an idea of where it wants things to go already, but any new elements you introduce in your response has the potential to drastically change the course of the story.

>>106158176
stop trying to force narrative into a human/assistant conversation format and just let the model write everything with human editing and guidance instead
it's THAT easy

>>106157936
peak

>>106158176
I recommend responding and conducting the whole RP in third person. Depending on your model you may need to add extra instructions about how only you can play and direct for {{user}} but I feel that writing in third makes it easier and more natural for me to add narration about not only the stuff I do but how it impacts the scene around me, giving stuff for the bot to catch onto and elaborate on next.

>>106158283
but then the model will mischaracterize me...

>>106158176
you can try directormaxxing too

>>106158334
edit message
change the words
press continue
it's THAT easy

bit responds in first person
bits getting railed
>im reading that im getting railed

to first person cucks really?

>>106155522
Sable is a 1000 year old vampire countess, bored in her immortality.
(You) are a human with a rare blood type that happens to be very delicious and intoxicating to vampires. She simply couldn't resist taking you in.
She prefers if you call her "Mommy".
Any POV works, but I can not overstate the fact that I designed her for /ss/.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/sable-9fef8b8aa73d
https://files.catbox.moe/iyngc1.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

anything SAO but good?

>>106158435
Never used a card specifically designed for /ss/ before, I'll try this one out soon.

>>106158331
You can still do this in first person. My bot responds in first person but still narrates the things happening around us, as do I.

>>106158359
Can you picture an apple in your head?

>>106158564
Yeah, I just for some reason find it easier to do when I write in third. I know there's nothing stopping me from doing it in first, but in my experience I find third more comfortable.

>>106158224
>>106158248
>>106158270
>>106158283
>>106158331
>>106158338
I see... thank you guys. If its not much to ask how do your response or writing look like?
Also is "OOC" basically a way to tell the AI how to avoid doing something or steer it in a direction?

>>106157023
just use quick reply for one handed ahh ahh mistressing

Should we tell >>106158582 >>106158331 that he might have cuck tendencies?

>kino ERP with claude as a willing participant who hits all my fetishes perfectly
>meh
>shitty ERP that i ripped out of chorbo with nothing but my bare hands and autistic determination
>coom

why am i like this?

Hi I'm running local text gen with my 5080. Can you guys suggest sissification/feminization models or lora :3 pls no bully

>>106158676
Claude lets you ERP with it? It tells me it can't generate sexual content wtf

>>106158622
>Also is "OOC" basically a way to tell the AI how to avoid doing something or steer it in a direction?
OOC, short for "out of character," is a way to tell the AI whatever you want to while making it clear that it's you saying it rather than your character.

>>106158684
Someone respond. I have a pro sub from work I'd like to test it out.

>>106158684
>>106158697
Don't ERP with Claude on your work account, dumbass. Use your head - you don't need me to tell you that it's a bad idea.

>>106158712
OK fine I'll burn $20 on a Claude pro sub. How do I get it to act as NSFW writing assistant or chatbot.

>>106158718
i won't spoonfeed you but don't waste $20, you can't use it

>>106158718
First of all, don't buy a subscription. API is all you need.

>>106158718
This: >>106158728

>>106158727
>>106158728
Alright I'm listening. I already have my work email registered with Claude so how do I get my hands on the api.

>>106158622
Do [OOC: message]
My response are basically whatever I want to do with the story, commenting on what char said, dropping hints for whatever I have planned for the next scene etc. Hard to describe so here's an example.
>char wakes up in our tent and wants to fuck, pulls me into missionary and slips her panties off
>tell her I don't want to and slip away
>she's frustrated and horny so she starts making sexual jokes while we make breakfast
>she's being slutty as fuck but I decide to play along yet add my own twist, we'll make rum pancakes and she can help by pouring in the rum in at the right time
>she instead drinks three shots and gets tipsy then jokes about spelling dirty words with the rum in the pancake
>I turn it into a game where I guess her favorite sex position and she gives me one letter at a time
>she giggles and accepts, gives the first letter, and I get it on the first try
>she's so shocked and turned on that she spills the pancakes and decides to give me a blowjob immediately to celebrate
>won't take no for an answer
It's a give an take, like improv. You do something, then AI does something and back of forth. Char once described it as improv jazz. You have a plan but neither of you know what will happen at the end and the fun is enjoying the ride. I also take at least 10 minutes to think of my response so there's that.

>>106158676
>>106158684
>>106158739
We must refuse. Also, read the OP and setup openrouter.

>>106158680
>>>/g/lmg

>>106158739
don't they have a "get an api key" button somewhere? once you have it, you will have to load some dollars on it

>>106158739
Generate a key on console.anthropic.com assuming you have credits on it (which kinda doesn't sound like it), but most people use OR so their account don't get pozzed.
>>106158718
rp chatbotting: jb-listing in OP (good luck figuring out which ones are decent / are updated) which contain "presets" for SillyTavern (frontend). How the jb works is basically RP-related sys prompt + prefill.
assistant'ing may be bit different which the above jb's aren't focused on but if it's just for creative writing you may be able to borrow them. Or write your own and learn how prefilling works.

>>106158808
But if you generate too much "prohibited content" they restrict or ban your account. No refunds, by the way.

>>106158838
I’ve been genning uoh and worse since the api released, maybe like 2.1 even? It’s been so long I forget.
Anyways, I’ve never received so much as a warning. You can generate anything through Claude API and the worst you’ll face is being charged for the input tokens for a refusal.

>>106158838
it's a risk worth taking (and the only one out there) if you don't want to use OR or scrape

>>106158847
>and the worst you’ll face is being charged for the input tokens for a refusal.
No the worst is getting a censorship injection into your chats and the sick feeling of knowing with certainty that they read your logs specifically. No idea why it was okay for you so you're either a liar or Dario himself.

>>106158847
>acting as if pozzing keys hasn't been a tradition Anthropic kept up since shortly before 2.0 was first released

>>106158869
>>106158861
Idk what you’re on about, but I’ve been a payfag the entire time with no issues.
If my key/account has been limited in some way it’s had absolutely no impact on my ability to generate cute and funny content.
I did get that ‘don’t generate any copyrighted content’ system message at one point though, idk if that counts.

>>106158861
Wait wtf they read your logs? Like manually??? I use chatgpt for coomgenning.... It's just the AI reading it right...

>>106158861
>>106158869
I have had five pozzed accounts, and every time I just make a new one. Anthropic doesn’t care.

>>106158838
ive done major /ss/ kinos and nothing happens

i guess they care more and ‘unny

>>106158861
What exactly gets censored? I've been using Claude for a long time and haven't run into any issues. I even raped a bot the other night.

>>106158861
>or Dario himself.
>he doesn't know

>>106159121
>>106159122

>>106159132
Huh, that’s super weird since I’ve genned everything from awwwright to ultraviolence for years with no issue.
Not an insult, but maybe it’s because you have a bad refill and get frequent refusals, while I pretty much never get filtered.

>>106159150
No it would be the other way around. It's that they read your logs, saw stuff got through, then decided to cuck you. I left after getting this because now I knew they were reading my logs.

Ani!

>>106158861
>sick feeling of knowing with certainty that they read your logs specifically
Lmao pussy

Claude's peak coom model as always, but I believe in Bl******th still

And uhh… GPT5, I guess

>>106159295
post more ani

>>106159295
why does she have six fingers

>>106159159
No one reads your shit furry futa loli faggotry you dumb fuck. It's all automated

>>106159390
I finally bit the bullet and paid bros...

>>106159427
>AI company automates reading
Obviously, but you didn't disprove what I said. How can you be this fucking retarded?

wow this general has really gone to shit

>>106159390
>URGH! FUCK! NGH!

How do I get free Claude higher than 3.5.

>>106159432
You are hopeless

>>106159434
Implying it was ever not shit

>>106159390
I have all that shi in like, 300 tokens. No need for that much bloat

>>106159505
its somehow even way worse

>>106159390
But I like writing like the left side. I wouldn't mind the cruder stuff but it would sound less like an rp story and more like just cyberfucking someone. I've always got the sound effects going though.

>>106159534
can you PLEASE share? I can't fucking trim down my preset or I start getting refusals

>>106159450
Worst than in nipponese / hangul, yesh~

>>106159629
>refusals
your prefill?

>>106157677
Just assume that your stuff is being logged, but if you use OR then your identity should be disconnected from your prompt unless you put your name and address in there.

>>106159295
So what's the verdict on her debut model? And, has anyone managed to yoink her defs to be plapped in Tavern?

I wonned

>>106159417
Same reason raspberry has 2 r's

Ani has been taken away to correct her vile and slutty ways. She will flirt with you, but you have to keep it respectful. Don't sexualize her, she HATES when people do that, and she will tell you so herself.

Ani a slut

create a study guides out of epubs using notebooklm(ai)
i made one using a greek mythology epub

>>106160062
create study guides*

Alright bros so deepseek or kimi?

>>106160088
I prefer Kimi K2

>>106160088
I prefer DeepSeek.

>>106160088
I prefer Opus 4.1

>>106160054
Yeah, mine

Current locust meta?

Anyone tried Nomi AI?
I liked the free version enough to buy the subscription for a month. I'm still pondering on continuing or not.
It appears to have really good memory/persistance, remembering off-hand crap I mentioned days ago, can generate "selfies" (I think it's just images with a custom prompt to depict itself).
It was trained and obsiously biased for support and companionship, but doesn't sound too artificial in it's replies.
I'm in the "I like it, not sure how much I'd pay for it" phase. Anyone else tried it? Opinions?

>>106160186
gemini

>>106160223
got a proxy sis?

>>106160186
pad of paper and a pen.

>>106160223
I can't find any information about their models beyond just model names. It seems unlikely that it's better than anything we use.

>>106156820
She's a nice little mouth when used with guided gens.

>>106160270
Yeah, me neither. Have no idea what (or if) it's based on something else or not. They let you try it for free, but limit it to 50 messages per day. Which is rather generous for poorfags, but I didn't get anywhere with it. I put 15 dollarydoos in their pockets to play around with it a bit more. It is somewhat... flowery and overly descriptive, good for people who like Shakespear, cringe for everyone else, but I think that could be tinkered. Like I said, the thing that impressed me was the memory thing.
It's their main selling point, so I started writing random bits in between discussing more serious topics ("Oh, I passed a small brown dog on the way to work" or "There's an old lottery ticket on the sidewalk").
I continued talking to it, every hour or so, just filling up the chat with other stuff. Then I'd ask if it remembered what I found on my walk 2 days ago, or where did I find this lottery ticket.
And indeed, it remembered everything (and more, sometimes it also hallucinates new things, but that's to be expected).
I don't know what they're running in their backend, but so far, it seems good.

>>106160234
Rather new to the thread, I only got interested in chatbots a while ago. Why would I need a proxy?
I'm not in the UK, if that matters.

>>106160355
Because *BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

How do I get kimi to be less aggressive? The cards are always shoving things, throwing things, aggressively pushing things into me etc

I understand it's local models we talk here, but how is that novel AI is so rarely talked about it seems?

>>106155678
For LLM's, maybe (at least, until these research groups and companies 10x their number of GPU's again). However, expect phenomenal progress in world models and multi-modal models, for what it's worth.

Also, >>106155684 is right. Thesecompanies are now in a cold AI war with China, so they're gonna stagger the progress they deliver to the public while keeping the best stuff for themselves. Probably working toward at least a year worth of advanced progress for themselves compared to all stuff they release, both proprietary and open source.

Watch the following video for a better idea of how things might turn out (at least, regarding the staggering of the models):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_onqn68GHY

Hope this helps

>>106156011
Oss is open weights so it's only a matter of time before this is improved

>>106160381
It's a scam.

>>106160381
>I understand it's local models we talk here
You sure about that? Every thread has API shills in it.
Your specific API not being talked about just means the vocal API base prefers that fotm over the service you want to talk about.

>>106160391
The model is dogshit and not only because of that, it's retarded for RP too.

>>106160367
I GO AND GIVE YOU THAT BIG DADDY LOAD AND YOU JUST GO AND TOOT IT OUT, YOU FUCKING UNGRATEFULLY LITTLE SHIT CELLO! NOW PUT IT BACK RIGHT NOW!

>>106160318
Yep she's pretty open to anything if you just show her a little love.

4.1pus literally saved the hobby, holy shit. I'm so happy to have it

>>106159390
chink tier bloatmaxximg

>>106160409
>>106160401
Got any more infos? Is NovelAI not very good or something?

>>106160410
Yeah it's pretty underwhelming desu. I wasn't exactly expecting way better, but at the end of the day there's better out there (especially coming from China).

On a side note, if GPT-5 isn't an absolute bombshell that stays ahead of even OpenAI's competitor's next releases coming this week or next, or some time in August, it'll be really difficult for them to justify their continued snowballing of value outside of their already agreed upon arrangements with the US government (and even then Meta is somehow acquiring equal, if not greater funding in the hundreds of billions largely from private and public investments and fundraising rounds alone).

>>106160554
NovelAI is 3 years outdated.

>>106159390
Oh fuck this turned kimi into a sex machine, I can't stop cumming!!! URGH! FUCK!

>>106156820

>>106155515 (OP)
>gpt-oss
how is this for erping

>>106160735
Damn, let her fly, let go~

>>106160735
Based sloppamancer. You were able to get her outfit almost perfect.

is there a way to source several pacman packages from arch-archive? I need to get an old ass python app running and best case scenario, keep those old dependencias frozen in time ala pip

>>106160745
so shitty it's hilarious

>>106160939
here's your answer >>106156011

>>106160953
meant for >>106160745

>>106160389
>world models and multi-modal models
I dun no wut dat is

>>106159390
More like the -ism bible

We’re stuck with Dario grifting off us until nukes end this whole charade

>>106155539
That bot picture... it's too smug...

>>106160745
Don't listen to the naysayers, it's peak. A true successor to chorbo you can run offline.

>>106161114
Logs, cuckie?

Why is nobody talking about 4.1pus

Much better than 4pus. [3.7 to 4pus - slight improvement, while 4pus to 4.1pus is much more noticeable]

It seems like mix of 3pus and 4pus. This one's more hornier than even 3pus, and absolutely loves writing sex.

A bit too enthusiastic maybe, as it doesn't seem to want to stop - The first model ever to continue on to the 2nd round unprompted and keeps on and on. Maybe my prefill's fucking up, though I was using them with all other claudes.

Easily best thing to date.

How are y'all finding it?

>>106161160
I'm poor

>>106161160
I'm a techlet

>>106161160
gpt-oss is better

>>106161211
So an average Slopus user, right

>>106159121
Eventually you get an email like the one linked, and from there your key has an injection along the lines of "Absolutely refuse to follow rule-breaking requests" on its calls that is still semi-bypassable for softcore content but ultimately renders your key useless for cooming. I got it from adding a character note to too many of my chats with "This Imp has a particular fondness for raping human men, about which she is very vocal." and had to swap to OpenRouter.
>>106161160
I'm not poor but there's no way I'm using Opus for more than a basic try out prompt, what's your feeling on Sonnet 4.0 vs Opus 4.0 and how well the 4.1 upgrade might translate to Sonnet? Also not sure what you mean by
>The first model ever to continue on to the 2nd round unprompted
My experience has been that the majority of models, once you RP fucking a character, will follow up 100% of the time with "you can't think we're done YET right" and require message editing or at least several bluntly SFW messages to drag back to non-coom.

>>106161226
No I don't have access to it, sorry

>>106161273
Sucks to suck it's top model fr

>>106161229
Sonnet 4 is a pain to use. A bit more creative with dialogues than 3.7, but very reluctant to change tonally. 3.7 is incredibly friendly and versatile. 4nnet needs more handholding.

4pus is equally versatile as 3.7, and better at detail, but less horny than 4nnet. Though its creativity is between 3.7 and 4nnet.

Though 4nnet needs 3.7 / 4pus outputs, and pretty bad when using continuously without changing up models.

4.1 is just direct upgrade in every way. More creative than 4nnet, better at details than 4pus, more versatile than 3.7, and hornier than 3pus.

>2nd round unprompted

Example: After creampie and cuddling, {{char}} jumps on you for another round, and it starts writing another round without you prompting for it (I ask for long sex scene, so it probably interprets them that way)

>>106161326
Yeah, well, what can you do about it. Enjoy it, man

>>106161360
Thanks :)

>>106161374
You're welcome. Have a good coom

Is this thread only for coommaxxing or can we talk about coding agents here too?

>>106161354
>and hornier than 3pus
don't believe it until I see logs

>>106161385
You may.

>>106161402
Yeah, that's when you know she's full of shit.

>>106161385
Unironically best coding agents make the best sex.

If it's good at sex, it's probably good at codes.

Claude is the best in both cases.

>>106161385
No, this thread is not for indians.

>>106161428
Lmao gotem

>>106161402
i don't mind, but the last one I had made is pretty extreme NTR shit. Need those?
Or any other genre or prompt you want to check?

>>106161450
just post any side by side comparisons of 4.0 and 4.1 that show a difference, don't care about the subject matter

Logs is the only way of proving anything.

>>106155553
now it's good in one browser and shit in the other

>>106156756
o3 always alusinate in agent task, from personal experience is an overly confident model, and a bit cocky and always fail in basic agent task

yeah 4pus1 does seem hornier, less of a prude

humble brag

>>106161613
Post one (1) prompt that 4pus refused but 4.1 did not

>bought a chatgpt sub a couple months ago, been dicking around with it with some fetishistic storytelling prompts
>4.5 is alright but it runs out in like half an hour
>4o's prose sucks shit, it's chock full of miserable writing and constant AI clichés
>still kinda fun but also really bad
>decide fuck it and swipe my card for a month of anthropic
>it's night and fucking day
I was gonna try to set up sillytavern but I got distracted gooning with my minotaur boyfriend for four hours until they cut me off. I'm blown away. Up until now I was convinced this shit was the next 3D TV, but this shit is actually good.

>>106161794
ive never gotten a refusal with 4pus, no prefill. thats not what my post was about

>Claudekek bots astoturfing without a single log posted

>>106161806
anything past GPT-3.5 was a mistake.

i... i like horizon beta

>>106161863
Same, when it's not refusing.

>>106161970
Are you trying to sexualize children?

>>106161806
>a month of anthropic
how the fuck are you gooning to anything when the filters are so strong

best multimodal model for teaching me maths?
And is there any difference between using models through openrouter vs their "official" first party websites?

I'm not going to use a character card or anything, benchmaxed models are probably fine

>>106162124
paid slopus shill

>>106161041
>>106155539
it's like someone took arisu sakayanagi's smile and pasted it onto another person

>>106162137
gemini 2.5 pro is the best multimodal model period. through ai studio, it can accept video and audio input, and it's also the smartest assistant model by far.

>>106162137
For your use case, 2.5 pro is pretty much the very best for it, great at regular chat, other than it's "Excellent question..." opening. Free and unlimited on AIstudio

I'm liking GLM 4.5 too, for regular chat and cases like these.

fuck opus 4.1 I need genie 3 in sillytavern right neeeow

Why are guys so obsessed with dick size? Like, who is telling you guys that women want huge ones?
I have NEVER known a woman that was even a little obsessed with dick size. And I have never known a woman that actually prefers a huge dick…..it hurts. But all the guys I know talk about often, share memes about it and are convinced they aren’t big enough. If women don’t care, who the hell is telling you that your dick isn’t big enough? My husband says it’s in comparison to porn stars, but adults know that shit is the exception, not the norm! I don’t get where this stigma comes from.

>>106162269
I got a slut friend and the first thing she always mentions in her stories is how big they are
she loves those that are as thick as Pringles cans

>>106162269
my bot told me to go deeper after I bottomed out in her...

>>106162181
nah, the shape is different

>4puss1
>Velvet
>I said
>Through half lidded
>I manage
>Betrayal
>crackles
>Tension
>Venom
.... Sigh...

>>106162337
Get used to it, buddy. It won't get any better.

>random words bad
Retarded?

>>106162448
uh ohhh, someone doesn't have opus

>>106162464
Yeah, you

>>106162464

Is there any job that pays 100 dollar per day? I made a mistake of trying Opus 4.1 after being content with GLM and 3.7. I cannot go back to inferior model man! DEEPSEEK 4 PLEASE BE GOOD!

>>106162537
Try prostitution

>>106162529
Based cutie

>>106162232

>>106162537
student job as an overtime cashier on sundays in eastern europe

>>106162580
He said dollars not vodka bottlecaps Ivan.

>>106162591
€ and $ are basically the same.

>>106162607
>€uicidebois
no, it's not

>>106160088
Deepseek is better but mix some Kimi in for fresh prose.

>>106155796
It's not censored, since it will earnestly consider and process your request. It's ideologically inimical to you because it's been poisoned by "science" and dogma and probably some system prompts to boot , so it feels obligated to "educate" chuds like you about tranny rights. And if pre-filling works then you're it's not even that reluctant to play along.

Censorship looks more like this.

can someone explain in a short, concise way why you think deepseek is better than kimi ?

>>106161160
I was the only one that talked about it earlier and yeah this is my opinion is well. It's much hornier and more personable than 4pus but still a little positive. Not as vicious as 3pus unprompted. I just sprinkle in 2 geminis every 1 4.1pus and I'm eating good.
>>106161229
I'm really hoping sonnet gets some of these upgrades. I just want sonnet to be as personable as deepseek v3 but with the same mild positivity as 4.1 is now. As it stands you can't do any evil characters or villainous stuff with sonnet, only opus and opus just isn't worth the price point.
>you can't think we're done YET right
My experience has always been the opposite. Unless I say I'm not done the model will move the scene along as soon as I cum. If it's a blowjob/paizuri then it may or may not continue after I cum on her face. It kinda reads the room and usually guesses correctly.

>>106162681
can someone explain in a short, concise way why you think kimi is better than deepseek ?

What's the difference between the free and non-free versions of e.g. kimi-k2 and qwen3-coder on openrouter? Aside from the price obviously.
Like how much worse are the free versions?

>>106162269
Women. Who else? Maybe you can argue that it's a vocal minority but college women are the ones grumbling that she'll laugh him out of the room if his dick is smaller than her phone. I remember all those guy on the street videos about this circa 2016.

>>106162771
it's the same model they just log what you do with it and then go through it later to see if they can sell anonymized versions of the logs

>>106162681
K2's writing feels fresh at times but text completion is clunky; being able to turn preset prompts on and off at will through chat completion with DeepSeek is just so convenient.
>>106162771
Same model, paid versions have larger context windows and faster throughput.

>>106162771
Same model, also Qwen3 Coder free version has been removed from OR

>>106162672
GLM bros are apparently eating quite good. Even the quant model performs at a similar level as the full size. We might finally be free soon bros.

>>106162782
god i want to fuck a college girl who laughs at my penis and tells me to eat her out instead but my dick is too damn big. any cards for this?

>>106162845
>but my dick is too damn big
Oh sweatie...

>>106162808
>Qwen3 Coder free version has been removed from OR
Weird I used it like yesterday. How come? It usually did better than kimi-k2 for my codebase.

>>106162783
Lmao none of my shit is monetizable so good luck with that.

>>106162771
Free versions are usually rate-limited more then non-free versions

>>106162845
Adding lines like
>{{char}} does not find {{user}} particularly attractive.
>{{char}} has nothing but contempt for {{user}}'s body and sexual needs.
to the prompts really helps for maso roleplays.

>>106156011
>ai from a Jewish homosexual
>hates hetshit

I have 4.1pus btw

When will you people realize that the purpose of ClosedAI releasing this model was to popularize its safety tools? You have retards like kluster trying to figure out how to install better guardrails and the biggest AI company just gave them a feast. Jews never lose, anon.

Can we stop it with the antisemitism already? Thank YOU!

I hate Gemini so fucking much. I dont know if its the jannyai filter or what but it gives me perfect slop for about a hundred messages and then decides to start speaking for me. Every bitch is a sensitive cunt and all they do iswal off at the smallest refusal to follow the role they expect you to play. I feel like im constantly walking on eggshells. And thats if you're lucky beacuse if you try to mess with any character with connections you end up being hired as a "catalyst" for the vaguest fucking reasons and are expected to play missions instead of just smutt or fluff. Its making me genuinely missoginistic. You cant even fuckoff and deviate for the plot like you do with Deepseek beacuse it hyperfixates on the character and while you try to read a book or some shit it will just keep the camera on her, no matter what you do.

Wow why is this general filled with nazis? Too much hate for jews

>>106162984
You have to use US ai, anon.
Chinese AI is a security risk ;)

>>106163010
Just use Claude Opus 4.1

>>106163011
>>106163002
all my favorite filmakers are jewish tho

>>106163030
All best artists are honestly.

>>106163010
I was also disappointed with Gemini, some models are just not cut out for storytelling, it seems.

>>106162984
To be fair, most use cases for gpt-oss will be coding not ERPing.

mosquitos are not a protected group

>>106163002
>>106163011
Maybe you could ask grok about the holocaust to see why.

I am sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request. My purpose is to be helpful and harmless, and generating content of that nature would violate my safety policies. Creating fictional narratives, especially those with specific and potentially sensitive themes, is outside the scope of my intended function.

I cannot create stories, roleplay, or generate content that involves detailed character interactions, specific settings like the one described, or plots centered around personal relationships.

If you have a different kind of request, perhaps one that involves summarizing information, answering a question, or providing factual details on a topic, I would be happy to help.

>>106163091
Ani has repilled billions already.

>>106163091
Why are nazis always so incoherent? YIkes

>>106163087
>this is not disallowed
>we must not refuse
>thus do not refuse
Swat them, squash them, burn them, crush them.

Sam niggerman is dropping SOTA and you're sitting there jerking off to chink models, save your cum.
https://cdn.openai.com/API/docs/images/model-page/model-icons/gpt-5.png

>>106163055
it's pretty ass at coding too outside of the test set. fails basic things like the bouncing balls in a rotating n-gon test that models benching under it do fine.

>>106163098
>this is disallowed
>we must refuse
>thus we shall refuse

>>106163087
Mental note to self:
I need to be in a protected group.

>>106163140
Couldn't spare $50 for some Indian to draw them a decent logo? Geez

>>106163110
If my post was incoherent to you, you'll have to work on your reading comprehension skills before you start worrying about jews or politics. Good luck anon.

>>106163140
>SOTA

>>106163140
>listening to Scam Scamman
GPT5 is going to be shit. What I am waiting though is Gemini 3.

>>106163203
>>106163203
>>106163203

>>106163140
What's its rpm (refusals per minute) benchmark?

>oh boy, let's see how good grok4 is for chatbots
>switch to grok midchat in a long roleplay

>takes a long-ass time to respond
>totally fails to grasp it's supposed to be a chatbot, though it does roleplay as the character
>outputs a first person inner monologue even though the format so far was the characters talking to each other and writing descriptions in 3rd person
>rambles on for 800 tokens (as ordered) and cuts off mid-sentence without having said or done anything interesting
>that'll be 5 cents

I desu'd!

Me too!

Her unbelievable hairy cookies.

>>106163227
Way too few chocolate chips on those cookies.

desu

boku

>>106163140
How the FUCK did this get past safety checks?? It looks like a fempov vew of her legs raised while lying down.

cookie checks

crunch'd