Thread 106160457 - /g/

Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:19:37 AM No.106160457
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China just dropped an open source OCR LLM with 1.7 billion parameters:
https://huggingface.co/rednote-hilab/dots.ocr
What does China gain by releasing so many models for free? What are they trying to accomplish?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:21:45 AM No.106160475
>>106160457 (OP)
Ruining monopoly and future investment by leveraging or stealing OSS improvements.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:22:17 AM No.106160479
>>106160457 (OP)
China believes in freedom of ideas
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:25:48 AM No.106160493
>>106160457 (OP)
The bubble is gonna pop so hard. There is a shitton of companies valued at billions for no fucking reason at all.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:27:40 AM No.106160501
>>106160457 (OP)
Crashing the defective, inefficient, "capitalist" amerigolem market?
They're not doing you a favor remember, they're an imperialist autocracy as well. The difference is that they don't bother with the whole democracy larp so they're by principle more efficient.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:34:53 AM No.106160541
they want wide corporate and academic adoption and the reliance that comes with that
funny thing is, the recent lifting of restriction on nvidia gpu's was done because of this very same rationale
the stuff here about
>they wanna crash le western market
doesn't make a lot of sense and relies on this idea of the CCP being all knowing and all powerful, coordinating all parts of all industries towards a glorious chinese century
ccp's been behind on this stuff and only starting to catch up. their labs have been doing whatever they want for now - they like making cool shit. exactly the same as the chinese people who like making cool shit at openai, anthropic and google.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:35:51 AM No.106160546
>>106160457 (OP)
Based china, I kneel to our future overlords
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:33:16 PM No.106160868
>>106160546
"future", lol
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:51:24 PM No.106160986
>>106160475
yet they closed sourced and locked down their 3d printer software to create a walled garden
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:53:07 PM No.106161391
>>106160868
You saying that rn they have more power than da joos on the west?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:54:41 PM No.106161408
>>106160457 (OP)
I should learn Mandarin. The age of the Burger is over.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:57:22 PM No.106161436
>>106160457 (OP)
Is it good for 1.7b though? I don't know kurwa
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:12:31 PM No.106161566
>>106160457 (OP)
How do i incorporate this into file explorer search?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:13:48 PM No.106161576
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>>106160457 (OP)
>OCR LLM
What does this mean? It detects text in images and reacts to it?
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master Karsten
8/6/2025, 2:28:46 PM No.106161696
>>106160457 (OP)
What are are requirements to run in local?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:44:53 PM No.106161813
>>106160457 (OP)
AI spending is about 2% of GDP in the US right now. That's huge and growing. It's what's keeping the country from technically being in a recession even though pretty much everything else is acting like a recession. China gains from the US falling into an actual recession as retaliation against Trump for tariffs.
If they can harm Trump enough to get Congress under the control of the Democrats, tariffs can be blunted. Even better if they can make the US miserable enough to elect a Democrat as president. AI is the economy right now. That's stupid and it shouldn't be that way, but it's the reality of how things are structured now so China is taking advantage of the situation to blow up the only economic growth the US has.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:31:52 PM No.106162730
>>106160457 (OP)
bleed proprietaries' profits
chinks lose some money, but the proprietary products (most owned by America, Europe) lose even more.
chinks lost $3, but if western companies lost $10 from it, it's totally worth
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:42:26 PM No.106162850
>>106160457 (OP)
most of US growth over the last year is tech companies pouring money into infrastructure for AI
if China shits on all of this and releases something good enough for free if markets are rational they'll eventually realize all of these tech companies are full of shit and their value will crash
Chinese people largely do not hold shares in these companies or in stocks in general so raping the US stock market comes at a relatively low cost to China relative to most other economic warfare options considering they're heavily dependent on exporting to the west
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:44:19 PM No.106162868
>>106160457 (OP)
the same thing they gained from selling goods to americans at cost/a loss in the 90s and 00s. now they are number 2 in global manufacturing and can charge/do whatever they want since they put everyone else out of business by rigging the game. Short term losses for long term gains.

they can sabotage all our tech companies by dumping billions of dollars of research for free and then one day it wil only be them doing ai because some amerigollum shareholderkun will gaslight himself into believing china will always provide free open source ai updates and will sell all our tech to some mysterious jew billionare (actually a middle man for the chinese) and woops now you dont have a tech industry anymore just like you no longer manfucature tvs or tshirts or anything else tee hee.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:49:24 PM No.106162924
>>106160541
the CCP doesn't need to be all knowing or all powerful to see the obvious. And it lines up with their general industrial strategy of pouring tons of money into these fields to achieve saturation, it's what they did with EVs.
It's basically a repetition of the Japan strategy from the 80s and will eventually hit the same core problem. But they have much more mass behind it and actively desire to subvert the current global system whereas Japan was content to be a US security client and just make loads of money.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:57:34 PM No.106164372
>Picture: Pictures in documents are currently not parsed.
It's nothing
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:23:00 PM No.106164645
>>106160493
Yep, imagine thinking investing hundreds of billions of dollars in to $30,000 GPUs that will be basically worthless in a decade is all you need to achieve AGI. It's .com all over again.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:26:05 PM No.106164689
>>106160986
only one manufacturer did and unlike gay western ones they're not going to monopolize the scene, another chink manufacturer that does play fair will spawn and undercut it into oblivion. there is a reason the most maker-friendly, repairable and ubiquitous affordable 3d printer that follows the intended ideals it started with is a chinese printer.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:29:16 PM No.106164729
>>106162924
and unlike japan they're not completely dependent on the US to do business and have a military so as a result the US can't sabotage them if they're getting too good to threaten US dominance like japan in the late 80s. they've tried, but they're apparently failing and any apparent setback seems to be temporary but with permanent effects on US leverage because when they get bullied out of a market they'll eventually learn to fill it in whether by innovating or by stealing US IPs.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:50:50 PM No.106164929
>>106160479
No, China believes it strategically fucking up the US economy.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:01:11 PM No.106165802
>>106160493
If the AI bubble is gonna pop then its gonna be 7-8 years from now, right now its in the early dotcom bubble growing era
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:11:30 PM No.106165935
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>>106160457 (OP)
Does this mean doujins and mangas can be easily OCR'd and translated at last?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:22:21 PM No.106166055
>>106161576
its an LLM that is very good at OCR
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:40:34 PM No.106166260
>>106160457 (OP)
Cultural dominance, international reputation.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:41:01 PM No.106166275
>>106164929
The US don't need China to fuck up their economy, they're doing that pretty well by themselves.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:45:41 PM No.106166312
Based
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:46:13 PM No.106166321
>>106165935
Yes but keep it to yourself and don't post it to sad panda.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:05:35 PM No.106166521
>>106166275
lol yes and no.
China has a strategy that uses Chinese government grants and funds to steal jobs from foreign countries.
>1. Select an industry
>2. Steal the IP from that industry and copy it "good enough"
>3. Start producing that stole IP in China for much less than the original country's manufacturing can afford
>4. Once foreign country's manufacturing shuts down because you stole their IP and started selling their product under different registered companies that avoid lawsuit, raise the prices up.
>5. rinse and repeat.
Then China had a genius idea. China has a raising economy because of previous strategy. Why not invite foreign countries to sell their goods in China? Foreign country's companies come and are required to give golden share or give up their IP willingly "for national security concerns." Suddenly, Chinese industries have said IP and are out producing foreign companies in China.
Use this to say China is so innovative and foreign countries should just manufacture everything in China because brilliant chinese people have come up with all these technologies.
And cucks in the west actually believe it. The car with incredible stability? Bose created it. Computer chips using light? US technology.
China should be nuked into glass so the world can heal.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:11:16 PM No.106166594
I fucking love this, you faggots simultaneously claim to believe in foss, but somehow Chinks are also being nefarious for engaging in it. This is some absolutely retarded goyim mentality truly.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:12:33 PM No.106166609
>>106166594
>anon likes malware
shut up and work on your homework.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:18:06 PM No.106166647
>yet more aislop
Nobody cares, ranjeet. People care about payment processors determining what products people are allowed to buy and sell and governments trying to force digital ID globally.
Smol Hat Enthusiast
8/7/2025, 1:04:34 AM No.106168339
>What does China gain by releasing so many models for free? What are they trying to accomplish?
I posit the question? What does the United States of America have to gain from restricting freedom? What are "they" trying to accomplish?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:12:09 AM No.106168416
>>106164729
>unlike japan they're not completely dependent on the US to do business and have a military so as a result the US can't sabotage them if they're getting too good to threaten US dominance like japan in the late 80s. they've tried, but they're apparently failing and any apparent setback seems to be temporary but with permanent effects on US leverage because when they get bullied out of a market they'll eventually learn to fill it in whether by innovating or by stealing US IPs.
Well, it also helps that the approach from the US is "hey knock that shit off" or we'll punish you! Then China's response is "why should we knock this shit off, hey why are you refusing to sell to us?" then the US says "no dude you don't understand, you really need to knock that shit off" then China says "lol lmao, ok nerd" and then starts building their own.
You can go on about how they've failed in some of these areas and there have been failures but in some they pull ahead. Manufacturing, industry, graphics & AI development all accelerated.

The issue the US had when they tried to bully other countries into this, is they were always reliant on immigrants, be it for university or just keeping their sectors afloat, engineering and whatever. A portion of those people would be Chinese, Russian etc.
It failed in Russia because they chose the oligarchs instead and they were behind and would require capital to invest and keep that running, whereas in China infrastructure would be built around it (even if at times they overbuilt).
The US doesn't really get this because it's so entrenched in neoliberalism that the nation is stuck in the 1970's. The American people deserve better imo, they're just like you and I at the end of the day.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:16:34 AM No.106168463
i feel bad for wumao because their jobs are already being replaced by botposters
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:23:41 AM No.106168545
It failed to process this simple image lmao
multilingual my ass, meanwhile qwen does it without any issue
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:24:58 AM No.106168557
>>106168545
I failed to process that simple image too anon.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:34:30 AM No.106168650
floppd
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>>106168557
i accidentally hit reply
it's a 1b lobotomite
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:37:17 AM No.106168692
перзидент россни
перзидент россни
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another test, 2 mistakes, the second word doesn't even exist
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:39:04 AM No.106168716
well the first word also doesn't exist, but it at least sounds funny
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:27:03 AM No.106170910
>>106160479
>China believes in freedom of ideas
ironic, isn't it?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:51:33 AM No.106171092
Screenshot 2025-08-06 at 22-50-45 dots.ocr
Screenshot 2025-08-06 at 22-50-45 dots.ocr
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>>106168692
works for me, edit Prompt & Actions
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:19:58 AM No.106171726
>>106168692
Protip OCR isn't perfect.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:53:31 AM No.106171916
>>106164929
>corporations actively hostile to me
>corporations lobby to make the government actively hostile to me
>politicians fucking children and being blackmailed by (((someone))) to be actively hostile to me
>China fucking with these corporations by giving me free shit to use
Someone is the bad guy here, and right now it's not China.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:09:58 AM No.106172023
>>106171916
ok chang
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:49:03 AM No.106172953
>>106160457 (OP)
It's more like 3B parameters, chud.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:54:11 AM No.106172983
>>106171916
this.

fuck corps, fuck your gay ass falling empire. the usa as is will be gone in a few decade at most.