Thread 106160512

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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series (especially X230, T440p and T480, those are the best pads for bucks) if you want the Real Business Experience™
Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support
>Trackpoint (why the fuck wasn't this in the general before? that's the only reason to get a thinkpad in 2025 honestly)

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Model generations:
>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org/downloads.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/
https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/

Additional resources:
https://dankpads.com/tpg/
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

Patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Chat:
##ibmthinkpad on libera
#/tpg/ on rizon

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>>106160512 (OP)
I miss my T440p, shouldn't have sold it 2 years ago to some dumbfuck who can't appreciate its beauty

thought on getting maxxed T480 with pre-installed libreboot?
https://minifree.org/

>>106162268
Do you hate money, aren't technically inclined, and and want to be a poseur?

If so, it's a great deal.

>>106162268
>$500+ for a 1080p, 16gb, 240gb ssd, i5 integrated graphics laptop from 2018, complete with a entire writeup jerking off libreboot as the next lord and savior
lmao

-- Sent from my $170 T480 from eBay
- i7-8650U
- 16GiB
- 1440p, 820 IG
- 500GiB NVMe Boot + 500GiB SSD Home
- IR Face Scanner, Fingerprint Scanner
- 72Wh + 24Wh Batteries
- AX210 WiFi + Bluetooth
- no libreboot :(

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I just got a L14. I know it's not any of the OG real business thinkpads, but honestly it's not horrible.

I don't see the point of the track point. Does anybody actually use it?

>>106162614
>i7-8650U
How can you people use this ????

>>106163679
Im gonna buy E14. Every time you buy E/L series a thinkpad cultist dies.

>>106160512 (OP)
>BIOS replacement:
Qrd on the different *boots? Also, which flavox of *nix do you guys use?
>inb4 I use TempleOS btw

>>106164185
i use gentoo btw

>>106162268
wait, there's a potential market for this? maybe I should sell overpriced coreboot/libreboot pads too.

T440p da best

I'll never understand why there's a cult following for a shitty low tier bargain bin laptop

>>106165944
Nostalgia i think. Im coming from HP shitware looking at thinkpads rn and they all seem like shit and completely opposite of what reddit and 4chan shills. T14 g4 soldered ram and wifi, t14 g5 FUCKING SOLDERED WIFI. They shit on E series while it has 2 ssd slots, not soldered ram and wifi.

>>106166513
there is litetally not a single anon in this thread that will ever shill nu-nu-thinkpad

>>106164177
Current L series ain't that bad, but stay away from E series for your own good

>>106165944
Designed by the Japanese and featured in anime

>>106167872
but i like my E16 :(

Thinking of getting a Latitude E6400 because they have internal flashing support for Libreboot and because they're cheap. I know they're terribly outdated, but is there anything else I should know about them before I bite the bullet?

>>106169129
It's fine but what's the use case beside maybe hosting a TF2 server?

>>106169129
theyre really nice machines in terms of build quality, serviceability, that square edged generation was distinctly when dell was on top of the business market
downside, the screens suck ass
even the good ones are washed out, mediocre backlights, they just dont look great

if i could get a reasonable IPS panel into my E6410 id pay out the ass for it

>>106169316
I bought a very cheap c2d machine recently and was surprised by how capable it was.
All I really need is LaTeX and light web browing, in other words it's going to be a glorified typewriter.

>>106169358
Thanks for the input. I will only know how much their screens suck when I have one, but generally I don't mind screen quality, so I think it'll be fine.

How are the TN panels in the e14 gen2 series, or in modern Thinkpads? My third world only seems to have those panels at a decent price and I'm getting kind of desperate, starting work next week

>>106169504
>any year
>TN

>>106164177
i still put linux on mine :^)

>>106160512 (OP)
from experience I can say dells quality is abysmall, overheating shit. hp has retarded battery charging system that destroys battery within a year, both companies are dead to me

>>106164170
what do you mean, this is perfectly usable for like web browser or code editor, only a problem if you need to compile lots of shit or otherwise process lots of data

>>106164170
I daily drive an 8365U as my traveling laptop
It's more than enough for browsing, media player, making stupid webm for this shitty imageboard and such.

>>106164170
coming from a i7-3820qm, its cooler, faster, and more efficient. more than enough for what i need it to do and i expect it to be usable for many years

>>106164170
I don't know how that's confusing. Most of us have more powerful systems for other tasks that aren't mobile. Maybe I could see it being too anemic if you're a couch surfing hobo and it's your only machine.

>>106164170
Strong enough to web browse. Old enough to brag about owning a vintage thinkpad because le powerbridge.

>>106168011
>featured in anime
no its not

>>106164170
i use a t60 for most tasks. if i need more compute then i remote into a more powerful machine.

>>106160512 (OP)
ThinkPad's died with IBM.

Can you install ivybridge keyboards on older thinkpads? Like the classic keyboard mod but in reverse

>>106171140
You can install them on xx10 and xx20, maybe T400s too but haven't tried

based anime thread

>>106171252
thx

>>106167872
Newer gens arent that bad it seems. I know there was a lot of problems with early gens.

>>106170603
Cope, seems like u r just poor.

Found myself a t14 gen2 to replace my disgusting failure of a buy previous laptop.

>ryzen 5 pro 5650u
>16gb ram with add slot
>256gb ssd
>shitty 300 nits display, might replace

400eur. Should I pull the trigger?
>battery probably fucked, will replace

>>106173511
If the battery is bad you can probably get the price down to 300 or so

>>106174176
>>106173511
Btw my current laptop is a yoga 7 slim pro. Better cpu and screen, but god the keyboard is absolute shit, and battery died quickly

>>106164170
Techlet?

>>106169941
Total overkill, if anything.

>>106164170
very easily? most people don't run 5 VMs on the background with 1000 browser tabs open, with an AI running locally for vibe coding

>>106172271
Rich people don't spend exorbitant sums on depreciating assets. It's not a tool that makes me money so it doesn't demand a premium expense.

If your use case is you need to have the latest FagBook to impress your clients and peers, go nuts.

>>106174698
>exorbitant sums
>the price of a laptop
yeah you're poor

>>106179908
>can't even reply to the correct post
yeah you're retarded

>>106180108
yeah and you're mad

This is the real thread.
When /tpg/ was at it's peak around 2017-2018, everyone was posting edits of anime girls with ThinkPads.

The niggers in the other thread are newfag secondaries.

>>106182614
>>106182614
>>106182614
posted in the other /tpg/
pls pls help anons

>>106162614
>- 72Wh + 24Wh Batteries
this is the battery setup i have

>>106174392
>Total overkill, if anything.
yes, even my i7 x260 would be sufficient for the task

it seems the t480 replaced the xx30 for the thinkpad meta game

>>106160512 (OP)
So Thinkpad bros, I'm looking for a laptop that is
-Modular: Has lots of removable parts like a keyboard, disk, RAM and SSD slots.
-Long Lasting: Has a relatively fast CPU
-Cost Effective: Isn't over 2k.

For context, I decided to pick out a 1990's Toshiba 220CS and was flabbergasted by how good the oldfags had it. You could just pop out the keyboard without even needing a screw and could easily access everything. I've searched far and wide but found modern computers have less and less modularity. The ones that do mark up parts as high as possible. I've been considering crafting a cyber-deck with common desktop parts, as it might be the only way to really get what I'm looking for.

>>106186582
I'd just DIY a laptop nowadays like a DTR.
https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmods/comments/1i7qi8z/diy_sleeper_pc_gaming_laptop/

>>106173511
No, are you stupid?
That's 400€ for a 4yo Ryzen 5 DDR4 laptop, that needs another 200€ worth of additional investment.
Look around on other sites or wait a few weeks until a non-sussy seller sells one on ebay at a reasonable price.