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>>106169727 (OP)
OP pic belongs in /utwg/

today i had another bleu cheese burger at the Microsoft cafeteria and it was pretty good!
I ate it so fast!
Also my business unit got re-orged today and all of the teams got new names lol

>>106166415
Why?

So are the h1b indians going back or not?
Will the jobs go with them?

I just want to get into FAANG. 2021 retards had it so goddamn easy

>>106169917
no. line flattened slightly so we're gonna import more

>>106169658
>fml

No, thats her debt, not yours. Dont be a cuck and pay her debt. In fact, she's going to resent you even if you dont. Break up with her, it's over. Trust me she's going to make your life a living hell now. She's literally a liability.

>>106169917
2015 - 2022 was the golden period. Some fags just got a bunch of cloud certs on top of their degree and were making 100-150k+ to replicate what on prem systems did but on the cloud. Even back then the cloud was often far easier to use since you needed much less code and manual configuration.

>>106169917
>The collective employee base of the FAAMNG group- Meta, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Netflix, and Google- grew by 16 per cent in India over the past 12 months, adding more than 28,000 net new jobs, according to staffing firm Xpheno, cited by Economic Times.

>>106170437
And how many of those jobs were for software engineers, in the USA, for American citizens

>>106170437
>adding more than 28,000 net new jobs
thats not even very many

>>106169917
nah it was still really stupid and basically the same 15 people getting all the high paying jobs while all the grunt work and maintenance was outsourced to india

only difference was instead of "ai will make it" it was "blockchain will fix it"

>>106169727 (OP)
>pictured: Jonathan Blow keeping an eye on Soulja Boy

>>106169917
>In 2024 Latin America emerged as a new hub producing software engineers competing for remote roles in the USA and Europe.
>Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, and Colombia lead the pack in producing senior engineers for the market. While Mexico and Brazil alone produce 600,000 SWEs every year.
>This was welcomed in tech, as in all US industries, as 2024 saw a 156% increase in demand from USA companies seeking LATAM professionals, who offer cost-effective solutions to hiring needs, on the same or similar time zones to the USA.

>>106170437
there's no way indians gives you a productivity boost to keep hiring them. It has to either be inside corruption or tax write offs. You dont need indians to keep google and such afloat, so it feels like a waste of money.

>>106169833
what's the new name

>>106170515
thankfully, all this is doing is proving that you cant use low grade workers as replacements in software development. it requires mental facilities that the third world does not have

>>106170515
language barriers make this not as bad as it is

>>106170437
>FAAMNG
you just know they want to say fagman soooo fucking bad

>>106170525
Something something 365 I think. I honestly don't even know, I didn't read the full email

learn a trade

>>106169727 (OP)
Jeet hiring is a successful Russian campaign to destroy the US tech industry.

Move to Japan.

>AI is going to replace you
>AI in question
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mFVsU0d7Veo

>>106170515
The Caucasian mystique has lost its allure.

Move to Bulgaria.

>>106171241
Fuck no. Japan's a massive pain in the butt for foreigners.

Move to Bolivia.

A very very important one thing:
You should commit yourself to the deep work. Even if you grind you need deep work. This is the required mindset shift.
Ok.

>>106170512
yo they got this game right, this shit called braid and if you like to drink and smoke and get high and you just be gettin fucked up they got this game for you right

>keep debugging my PR since the tests fail
>it's not my changes, that FUCKER broke the integration tests AGAIN
reeeee

>>106170896
americans will do literally anything but admit their leader(s) bazoopled them

>>106170518
it's both. the ceos of all these companies are jeets now, and there ARE tax write offs for hiring "refugees"

>>106173643
Im tired of globalist politicians selling out our countries

Honestly seems like the best timeline for the US right now would be a French style revolution and mass chopping of the elites followed by our own Napoleon and turn towards imperialism

>>106172150
ok. i'll ask AI to do the deep work for me.

I've been online for 1.5 hours and I haven't done a single fucking thing yet
I should have taken a sick day or something

>>106174753
every country right now needs that

I hate working in data centers
They're too loud and too hot
No I'm not Indian

>>106176072

Don't they keep the A/C at like 60 degrees

>>106176087
Not in the hot aisles
Most work is done in the hot aisles

>>106176101

why are there "hot aisles"

Good God my dick is hard. I need to be jacked off rn.

>>106176111
Cause servers get hot and expel hot air

>>106174972
Update: 3 hours in and I've done two things.
Today wasn't a total waste but I still long for the eternal sleep.
Maybe I'll call of tomorrow.

>got my annual review
>Manager says I blew all expectations out of the water
>Only got a meet expectations
>Only a 2% raise
>Only 75% of my bonus
>Still passed up on promotion
Welp. Fuck this I'm out. I've got 3 interviews lined up. 2 at Big well known companies and a third at a small startup. I feel like I want to escape huge corporate bullshit and go back to cozy startup life.

>>106169833
The first of many. All of them more pointless than the last.

>>106176300
>startup
>cozy
last time i worked for a startup it meant long hours and shit pay

For anyone interviewing right now - what is it like with AI? Are they still doing Leetcode style interviews or has it shifted to something else?

everyone get their bonus from openai?

>>106176335
the default assumption is that everybody cheats
so it's back to onsite interviews with whiteboards

>>106176332
The company I'm at currently works us like a startup on Enterprise level problems. Working with my experience on startup level problems means a 30 hour work week.

>>106176352
Everybody is cheating because Leetcode interviews are fucking dumb.

>>106176352
I don't know why they insist on asking these dumb fuck leetcode questions that have nothing to do with the actual job.
The end result is you end up with a bunch of jeets that were unscrupulous enough to cheat during the interview.
A simple fizzbuzz on a white board is literally all you need. If you want to know my thought process it shouldn't matter if I write actual code or not. We all know we're just gonna use auto complete and an AI assistant anyway.

>linkedin dead silent for 6 months
>get 5 messages from different recruiters in one morning
why does this happen?

my boss doesn't even read well. he gets the emails from clients and responds to whatever shit sticks to his mind instead of the actual content of the email.
this is a young guy who used to be on my team (though we never worked with one each other). the boot licking retard is now managing multiple teams that got merged a couple of months ago, and has taken so many responsibilities that now practically ignores our requests and makes my life more difficult instead of easier.
I really, REALLY want to leave, but I don't have alternatives.

how to best coast as a low performer?

>>106177075
Have a really good attendance record

>>106177075
Fuck the HR harpies

>>106177075

Be responsive on teams/slack and present at meetings. Lowest hanging fruit for looking acceptable.

>>106177075
earn distrust of the high performers reviewing your work by always delivering crap, then waste their time by not understanding their well thought out comments that leave no room for misinterpretation by asking for clarification or pushing additional crap. they will then do your job for you because it's less work than trying to teach the retard

>>106177075
be well liked

>>106177075
Be black and illegal to f-
>disparate impact doctrine is dying
Hmmmm nepotism maybe?

With how disappoiting GPT5 was, I'd say AGI is off the table again for the next 50 years at least. It was nice to dream while it lasted.

Whew. I was worried at first, but having two (remote) jobs actually isn't so hard. The only thing that occasionally comes up is a meeting conflict with my daily standup at my first job, in which case I just tell them I'm "running late" or "will miss standup today, here's my status" and nobody bats an eye.

This is a relatively easy way to break into the mid $200ks. Helps if your first job is already cemented pretty well and you've automated yourself out of most tasks and stuff

>>106176801
Fiscal year ended for a lot of companies and so now they're trying to grow for fy26.

>>106178981
Told you. It's an incredible tool but the way you retards define "AGI" means it will never exist in a machine. The only way to construct AGI in a way that will satisfy you is by repeatedly fucking a woman but there's no pytorch layer for that so you probably won't be doing it.

>>106179475
My definition of AGI is a computer program that can pretty much do everything a human can do. It will be achieved, eventually, unless intelligence is something that originates from a non-physical process (i.e. a soul).

>>106177327
that's pretty good advice; it's the combination of being a coaster and being absent on slack and in meetings that's the killer

>>106179565
>My definition of AGI is a computer program that can pretty much do everything a human can do.
Lol Qwen can already do that, You don't even need an SOTA model. Have you gone outside and spoke with the average human?

I want to pivot to an easy job with no stress, I don't care about low pay but need stability
Ideas?

>>106180112
Europe

>>106180112
Medical tech, anywhere.
>It's all regulated so there's a lot of lag time with completing work on a project and getting it approved by whatever country government you're submitting to
>defined product scopes
>customer support skews towards healthcare professionals who are usually smarter than your average saar
>less on-call incidents (I usually deal with 1 or 2 per year)

>>106180067
>Qwen can already do that
Why are you AGItards lying?

>>106179186
What do you do for a liviing?

>>106177327
>>106179816
what the fuck, why doesn't not showing up for meetings get you fired regardless of performance

>>106180727
What can't it do exactly
>Hur it can't socialize the way I do
Yeah no shit, it's not a human so it's not going to be a human. As far as knowladge work goes yeah it can do what you want.
>Hurr it can't query <thing> or use <tool>
Yeah you have to give it the tool if you want it to use it.

I've always hated "AGI" and "sentient" etc. Most of you keep saying that because you know asking if it's human is a dumb question so you find other words to use to not sound retarded.

>>106180787
No single LLM can use any tool. All they can do is generate words, code or other random bullshit. Name literally one job where an LLM could replace humans

>>106180822
>No single LLM can use any tool.
All you need to do is supply an API. Most free chat bots have a search tool these days for example.
>All they can do is generate words, code or other random bullsh
Well that's all it takes.
>Name literally one job where an LLM could replace humans
Oh look, you did the "Hurr it can't socialize the way I do" thing.

>>106180844
>still can't name a job
Kek, as expected.
>just give it an API through an MCP, bro
Yes congrats, now it can generate random bullshit through an API

>comfy remote job no name company
>125k, work 20-25h each week at most
>will get senior at end of year
>everyone thinks im amazing etc

>about to get offer from meta after recruiter msg on linkedin and 3 months of interview
>expecting ~175k
>have to move
>have to go to office
>probably political shit and backstabbing non stop
>performance reviews every 5min

I will probably accept, am I making a huge mistake? Has anyone been in same situation and regretted it?

>>106180880
>>still can't name a job
Why do you assume intelligence == job? There's always a massive pool of intelligent people who fail to socialize.

>>106180980
Where is your prospective office located, vs where are you working remote from now?

>>106180986
>AI can do anything a human can do
>ok name a job it could replace then
>uhhh ackchually why do you assume intelligence == job?
Lmao

>>106181041
>replace
See there you go again. You demand it replace humans. If you want that you need a human for a dozen subtle reasons.

OpenAI giving 1.5M bonus to every employee. New grads wil make 1 mil per year. How to compete bros?

>>106179186
What is the secret patty formula? What is your job?

>>106180980
Stop falling for grindset grifter scams. "Lower" paying comfy job you enjoy > "Higher" paying job you'll hate while making less take-home pay due to higher COL area and mandated transit.

I thought I was mediocre, but I might actually be bad and retarded bros

>>106181370
If you're at least self-aware then you can't be that bad

>>106181250
OpenAI is going to be dismantled for parts with how disappointing GPT-5 is

>>106181250
>OpenAI giving 1.5M bonus to every employee. New grads wil make 1 mil per year. How to compete bros?
It's probably stock grants vesting after a couple years and most are getting piped or laid off in a few months for <insert reason>

I've realized that I despise my coworkers.
They're all middle aged millennial manchildren consoomers who talk 24/7 about nintendo or middle aged Xers with brown wives and mutt children.
The only other guy in my age range is a sperg too.
Fuck this shit man, I spend 40 hours per week with these people, couldn't they be normal?
Literally the most normal people are the Senior Directors in their late 40s/50s and then there's some awkwardness since we're in completely different phases of our lives.

>>106182384
Can we trade places? All my coworkers are supreme normalfags who only ever talk about their wives and kids and sportsball.

>>106182384
a job is a place you go to get money

>>106170518
Indians are like cancer cells, once they get inside an organization they start replacing people who do essential functions and redirect their efforts 100% towards bringing in more indians, before long the entire organism has been jeeted from top to bottom and then it collapses from the collective weight of their leeching.

>End of quarter review
>"we fixed over 30 bugs!"
>"we added about 50 bugs"
>everyone claps like this is a good thing

>>106182431
I would love to. Nothing I hate more than people in their late 30s who won't shut up about fucking Donkey Kong and LGBTQIAP+ rights

>>106182445
A job is where you spend 1/3 of your life. And sadly, how well you are liked has more of an impact on how much money you make than actually being good at your job.

>>106182384
> middle aged millennial manchildren consoomers

Awful. The 40yo millenials are the worst, they truly are mini boomers.

> then there's some awkwardness since we're in completely different phases of our lives.

Should only be awkward if you make it. Some of my friends are 15 years older than me.

>>106182431
I've had the worst coworkers when working at a bank. It was all fake social pleasantries. There was a culture of fear and awkwardness. I do not recommend ING bank (to Dutch, Polish or Australian people).

>>106182453
It will not collapse as these orgs are semi monopolies with long term on going contracts like IBM or Oracle. Typically they keep a limited amount of very competent developers around and pay them more. But they shouldn't expect any support from the Prajeets they hire lol.

>>106182477
There's no way they talk about nintendo slop like donkey kong in their late 30s. It's probably World of Warcraft, magic the gathering or some other millenial games.

>>106182486
I’m saying that our only real commonality is where we work.
I’m worried about grabbing poon on Saturday nights, they’re worried about their kids and home renovation.
Close friendships are made on shared life experiences so it’s more of a surface level comradery.

>>106182539
>There's no way they talk about nintendo slop like donkey kong in their late 30s
lol you have no idea

>>106182539
nta but "people" like that still buy the latest (overpriced) Switch

>>106182486
>>106182431
FYI at that bank I had to deal with a squad of Ukranian cheerleaders who would literally watch Ukranian gore vids at their work stations. Despite all their tough talk on how they would want to go to the war themselves, they worked at a bank that sucked dick at enforcing sanctions since their data analytics wasn't in place at all for their compliance. Why? Because it didn't make the bank money. The only money they sanctioned effectively was from some random Ivans who typically had amounts under the 1k euro on ING accounts. A lot of problems occured with double citizenships or people who have registered as Russian but aren't anymore.

Weird people, weird place.

>>106182539
I’m literally talking about my life experiences this week. They’re all tendies who won’t shut the fuck up about Mario Kart and Donkey Kong.
It makes me want to strangle them and tell them that they are single men in their late 30s, they should be getting their lives together, not wasting their time away playing Bing Bing Wahoo
Or at least not telling me about it like I should care.

>>106182602
If they really are late 30s then it's about 15 years too late for them to get their lives together. Let them have fun.

Give it to me straight, what exact consequences will being a sperg have on my career? I will graduate soon

>>106182568
>zoomer who thinks he's too good for everything and better than everyone acts like a dipshit
many such cases

>>106182676
unless you're top 1%, you're most likely unemployable

>>106182676
Train yourself to be quiet and impersonal at work. You will be received much better that way than if you try to be social.

>Recruiter calls me
>Recruiting for a server admin role
>I pass all requirements and every "Nice-to-have's"
>"Alright, I'll check in with the employer and get back to you."
>Calls back 5 min later
>"Yea, sorry the employer wants 5 years of Azure experience, you only have 4. Good luck with the job search!"

Is anyone else mere inches away from being Baker-acted?

>>106182676
>career? I will graduate soon
lol. what career? almost certain chance you do not get a tech job

>team matching at meta
any tips

>>106179565
>unless intelligence is something that originates from a non-physical process (i.e. a soul).
You just missed a lot of steps in the process and went straight to soul.

1. Intelligence is based on emotion. On feeling. There is no way to achieve intelligence without it. Think about it. What does a word mean? All words in the dictionary are defined through other words. It's an endless circle of words. But how do we know what they mean? Cause we feel it. When I say "I'm going to buy an ice-cream at the store". I know what going means because I have went places in the past. I know what an ice-cream is because I have tasted it. I know what future tense means because I have experienced the past and the future. AI does not have these things, so it cannot "think". It just blurts out words without grasping their meaning.

2. Intelligence and emotion are based on purpose. Everything I do in my life is for a reason. I post here because I am bored. I eat food because I am hungry. I go to work because I want money to survive. AI does not have a purpose. It's purpose is just what others tell him. Therefore it can never think. Intelligence at the end of the day is the ability to achieve one's goals, and AI has no goals.

3. Souls are on top of all that, but you don't need souls to refute AI. At least not yet.

>>106182899
I live in a yuropoor shithole and I haven't seen people from here complain about the tech job market much, so hopefully that is not an issue. My inability to not get on the nerves of at least some people will be, however. I would like to know how much this will affect my career and in what ways if I do hypothetically get a tech job.

>>106182676
the best programmer in my office is a certified sperg and a trans woman
arch linux, riced out vim, gamer mechanical keyboard, the works
management loves her because she works weekends like almost always never takes a vacation and just delivers code efficiently
but I've also heard they'd never consider her for management or anything like that, just a highly effective code monkey

>>106182982

>All words in the dictionary are defined through other words. It's an endless circle of words. But how do we know what they mean? Cause we feel it.

That doesn't explain how you learn and interpret abstract concepts, which little or no connection to reality.

I'm still on the train that when the ai bubble pops, there will be a stock market crash and a recession the likes we've never seen

how much lying can you actually get away with when trying to get hired somewhere?

>>106183352
You're correct. All the growth was in AI and nursing homes, basically.

Would you ever consider reporting your company for immigration fraud to USCIS? We just hired two Indians on H1B visas and we certainly could have found an American to do their jobs

I'm never applying for another glowie job just for them to cancel everything after 2 years waiting. The glowies in pic rel were especially mean.

>>106183448
shit i've been to that building

>>106183352
yep!
the only thing left to prop this shit up at this point is the fed cutting rates, but doing that would basically be consigning the next generation to slavery

massive inflation, wealth inequality, housing prices increasing further, etc...

>>106183475
>consigning the next generation to slavery
Zoomers/Gen Alpha/Gen Beta are already fucked, they're having to pay for social security for Boomers/Xers/*maybe* Millennials with 0% chance of getting it for themselves

>>106183448
>The radiation from the glowies is so strong its melting the cars in the parking lot
2 years what the fuck is this some niche position that only PhD holders have?

Ok, I'll admit it
I don't really do any work after lunch

>>106183748
I do all the actual work in the morning and after lunch i just make PRs pretty for review or review other's.
Im on west coast and my whole team is est so by 2pm no one is on

>>106183748
most of the time I stay in bed until 12pm just browsing this and other sites. I have a list of personal stuff to do and really need to get my shit together...

>spent my twenties partying, selling weed and being a surf bum travelling the world
>childhood friends spent their twenties studying incel STEM shit, slaving away 5-10 years in university plus internships and placements
>they are incredibly smug about their career and talk shit about me in our hometown
>call me a drug addict, bum and say I'll never amount to anything behind my back
>I turn 30 and move to Australia
>do some IT certs in the evening and get a high paying job because I suck at trading crypto
>tell childhood "friends" about it because I assumed it must interest them since all they do is wagecuck, it's their life
>they act etremely standoffish and hostile once they realise I now make more than them because Australian wages are higher than european wages
>what I thought would be a nice catch up with the guys I spent my childhood with quickly turns into an ugly situation where they convince each other my career doesn't really matter because I don't deserve it and I only make more money than them because of the exchange rate anyway and what do I even know about IT anyway

Wagies are truly fucked in the head man. Their jewish masters have conditioned them to be slaves forever.

>>106184076
you make 60k they make 50 nobody cares

>>106184179
Nah they have "good" jobs with Mercedes, Porsche etc. paying 100k plus. We're all from Stuttgart, Germany, where they invented the car and all these german car companies sit. Where I'm from working for Mercedes or Porsche is the biggest flex you can do. It doesn't seem to register with them that we all are going to be stuck in the wage cage for eternity....

>>106184256
Who gives a shit german cars are ass anyways. Only reason why euros like them is due to local cost and the fact that they barely drive the cars they own.

Buying shit for status is a meme. You work hard to get money to buy things you like, invest in your future and most importantly invest in your kids like most rich people do. Even poor fags that make $200k usd and higher invest most of their money in there kids education instead of retirement since it makes such a difference outcome wise.

Everything else is fake and gay bullshit. Do whatever you want just be sure to get paid for it.

>>106174736
Corrupt governments and marred lands are no longer worth fighting to protect. There's only one thing worth fighting to protect, now. And that's...!

>>106184422
Fuck off furfag

>>106184446
Widespread weapon ownership is integral to the soverignty of a nation.

>>106184485
No furfag fuck off you contribute nothing to TWG/UTWG - Same goes with the fag that posts about KPOP

>>106184516
what do you contribute then?

>>106184422
You dont even make 1MM TC. Why are you here instead of /utwg/?

>>106184543
This faggot doesn't even work IT/Tech. He jerks off on a fishing boat and gets blasted drunk at port to shit post here. Right now he's on meds between jobs.

>>106184422
niggerfaggot nodev

>>106184561
Why do "people" (Term used loosely) who don't even code post here? How do they even find /g/?

>>106184602
what makes you codefaggots think coding is the be all end all of technology? Network engineers, Cloud egnineers, Sysadmins are all legit careers you spastic

>>106184602
No clue these people should fuck off to other threads elsewhere. Same goes for the random ass shaving threads in /g/ /fa/ that shit belongs on other forum websites with dedicated reviewers. Waste of space.

>>106184623
None of those things are tech you fucking retard. We know it's you >>106184422 samefagging btw.
The world runs on CODE.

>>106184626
This. These nocoding furfaggot jew shills do nothing but post nonsense about their ""jobs"" rebooting printers and plugging in laptops and think they're real Tech Workers just because they real Developers have to ask them for admin passwords to install the necessary on their own machines.

>>106184422
post git or fuck off and kys yourself

>>106184422
Why this is allowed ?

>>106179565
Yes that would be true AGI.

The most difficult part would be true self preservation. Humans spend a shit ton of resources on its immune system and maintaining itself to survive. The sexual drive comes from a survival need, if no replication occurs the species dies off. A machine would need to be able to replicate itself and successfully keep itself alive in the real world. It would need a mechanism to create copies of itself and interact within the real world to exert influence on it.

If it can do all of that without any human interference or help then it would be true AGI.

>>106184543
>there are people who think they're allowed to speak when they don't even make 10figs

>>106184422
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF NIGGER FURFAGGOT

>>106184422
post caste

>>106184716
Where is your git sir?

>>106183448
Did they make you do a polygraph?

>>106184902
4 actually

>>106184633
None of your gay CODE would actually do anything if the fiber optics weren't commissioned properly, or if the satellites wouldn't talk to each other correctly THOUGHEVER

>>106184930
Code is the only thing that lets you extrude your ebin plastic wire or 3d print your meme satellites.

>>106184956
>plastic wire

it's glass you mong. Really goes to show how little you codefaggots actually know about IT.

>>106184930
>or if the satellites wouldn't talk to each other correctly
What language do you think satellites speak? Retard.

>>106184985
it isn't Tech. Why would I know anything about it? I didn't go to school to learn where the water goes after going down the sink or how to mop the floors either. Those things are obvious to people who have enough IQ to learn to code. KYS it janny.

>>106180980
Yes but reverse. Had a high stress high paying job. Took a 15% pay cut and now work like 20ish hours per week (I do all work at office and only online meetings when hybrid). I don't regret any of it.

>>106184818
I don't even use it, I'm not an uni student.

>>106185019
>he doesnt use git!
NGMI IT BRO

>>106185012
>where the water goes after going down the sink
> Those things are obvious to people who have enough IQ to learn to code

>>106184927
Are they as bad as you read on r*ddit?

>>106185038
>TFW

>>106184076
you posted the same shit to /utwg/. why?

>>106185012
>Those things are obvious to people who have enough IQ to learn to code
>clearly has no idea about these things that are "obvious"

lol you are actually retarded. If it's so obvious then you should have realised that is impossible to send terrabytes of data per second over kilometers through plastic. Imagine looking ata afiber optic cable once and going "yep, that must be plastic that they use to send data at the speed of light over insane distances" lmaooooooo

you should be glad you found a way to monetize your autism because you would be cleaning toilets otherwise.

>>106185037
Wells are just nanny state devices used to steal precious fluids from the rich and "redistribute" them to poorfags who do nothing for the economy.

>>106185063
>>106184985
>he thinks data transmits through glass
Glass is too dense. How do you think the sound gets through it retard? It's obviously hollow tubes.

>>106185063
You will never be a real programmer.

>>106185060
Because I cannot rant about this to anyone else. People here in Australia just tell me shut up you got a good job what are you complaining about and people back home just are dismissive

>>106185063
>>106185080
No one cares about this stuff. All that matters is the code that runs on it.

>>106185097
Who gives a shit people are jealous, envious and retarded. Move the fuck on

>>106185080
2/10
>>106185094
Thank God I get sent around the world to work on things I can touch with other people I can talk to instead of autistically staring at a screen for the next 30 years

>>106185115
yeah, you are right. I shouldn't care. thanks anon.

>>106185037
Well how does the water get there? If you're so much smarter than a programmer, you explain it.

>>106185111
we are so good at magically sending data around the entire globe in very very short amounts of time that we afford the entire world the luxury to completely forget about us while we perform literal magic in the background. Without us you all would be nothing.

>>106185150
This. All the plastic filament in the world would be worthless if not for us Programmers to make it actually do anything useful. IT monkeys should grovel at our feet for even being "adjacent" to us.

>>106185037
Wells only work because coders wrote the smart contracts guaranteeing water rights between nations. If it weren't for us there would be another world war.

>>106185037
What about that image is wrong?

>>106185063
>is impossible to send terrabytes of data per second over kilometers through plastic
proofs?
oh you have nonE?
YET AGAIN RETARDED it monkey SAYS RETARDED SHIT

>it janny seething at me over Teams because he has to drive to my house at 9 PM to personally "configure" my printer before I can even begin on my PR
Maybe you should have learned to code :^) Sorry you're too poor and retarded to configure my printer through 5G so I can write up that report I need for standup tomorrow morning. :^)

not a day goes by where I am not eternally grateful I got laid in highschool and didn't end up a coder

>>106185335
shut up. there were only like 3 chicks i wanted to fuck in high school. and i was too scared to ask any of them out because the school was small and might've made everything awkward

>>106185360
a whole lot of yapping just to get the point across you spent your teens yerking off in front of your computer instead of smashing prime pussy

cable janny getting uppity

>>106185335
Tbh, at first I wanted to code too, but I got a job on the infra side, and that's much better. Most of coders are retards and retarded normies who joined tech for money. Usually, I doget to code and I code much better than these retards but I don't get all the cons of a code job.

All that bitching about non-coders is their normie hatred for skill based work.

>>106185335
Based. It's a good thing that coding jobs don't hold the same prestige they used to a decade ago.

>>106185461
all my coder friends are always firing the next round of layoffs in favour of some offshore pajeet code farm. They are always screaming for more hands on guys than can splice, set up racks and troubleshoot connectivity issues locally. Feels good man.

>>106185542
Only hope for us IT guys is that cloud shits the bed and most companies go back to local. Aint no way any of this shit is secure. This would also give us alot more jobs back from wannabe service providers for cloud.

>>106169727 (OP)
>look for job
>get interviews
>6 stage process
>so off putting I usually drop out or just lose enthusiasm midway through

Guess networking is the way? Go to meetups and be nice, don’t tell them I want a job, and people will automatically offer me positions or some shit?

>message me about a job i'd "be perfect for"
>don't include salary info in the message
>click through to the job posting
>no salary info there either
fuck off

>>106185591
I work in oil&gas and mining and the regulations don't really let themdo anything other than run local networks due to security concerns. Living the dream. They fly me out for 2 weeks, then I have 2 weeks off.

>>106185591
Cloud is more secure than your average office building. It's a disadvantage to have your assets tied to a specific location.

>>106185618
>Guess networking is the way? Go to meetups and be nice,
I've been saying this for a while. yes, but not only meetups. chat with people online and stuff too

>don’t tell them I want a job
do tell them, but not immediately.

>>106185618
>trying to get into a field where he's going to be replaced by AI in a few years
smartest codemonkey

>>106185730
>Cloud is more secure than your average office building
have you tried reading the news as of late?

>>106185743
If a worker is dumb enough to fall for phishing attacks, there's really nothing you can do about it. Being local won't prevent that.

>>106185618
>Guess networking is the way? Go to meetups and be nice, don’t tell them I want a job, and people will automatically offer me positions or some shit?
hahaha
this will only work if you give them a firm handshake

>>106185730
Yeah sure dumbass and sony never got hacked in its life. You can more securely transfer data within a network if you own the servers outright. With cloud you would have to go out of your way to get an SLA that includes dedicated circuits on servers dedicated only for your service. Then what happens when you end the contract and they move service again? Alot of shit like this is just wish washy magic. If you are even more secure you would have R&D on one separate network entirely and only outbound traffic is through dedicated lines to each location. Completely separate computers too. You are simply thinking of small company problems.

ausfag here - what hourly rate should I ask for with an opportunity to be administer/configure/support an ERP in the USA?
I've got access to the ERP and am currently configuring an MVP (so the product can be whitelabel sold to smaller businesses) to be demo'd to an association that overseas the potential customer base and the idea is to turn this into a paid engagement if the organisation likes what they see
Is 100 USD/hr too much of an ask if it may be ~2 hours a day up to 5 days a week?
Is 100 USD/hour too little?
I want that american money

>>106185760
being remote won't prevent that either?

>phishing
so you haven't read the news.
https://www.bitdefender.com/en-us/blog/hotforsecurity/major-security-breach-at-tea-app-exposes-sensitive-user-data
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/tea-app-leak-worsens-with-second-database-exposing-user-chats/
the problem? insecure config of a firebase bucket.
this shit was leaked on /pol/, btw.

>>106185360
wew lad you sure must be glad you didn't make things awkward, right? lmao

>>106185836
Large companies use cloud services too because it's more cost effective in the long run. If cloud was bad, there wouldn't such widespread adoption.

>>106185888
I never said being remote would prevent that. I've heard about that news. Even if that app was hosted locally, it wouldn't have made any difference because the issue caused by the developer.

>>106185383
still jorking it to this day

I can't stand my job where I am on paper treated extremely well, I do very little, am paid a ton of money, but 4 years of technological and cultural friction have made me completely hate this company and by extension my life and I've given up on any hope of that changing as long as I work here. I'm probably going to lose my job in 6-9 months and while I'm looking forward to it, I'm also worried I'll struggle to find anything remotely as good as this again

>>106186062
it's okay, at least you can brag online about your coooooooding job lol. People like you used to dig latrines and get conscripted into being cannon fodder.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kisalay-srivastava-46b243196/

Jeets like this won big because they love to lie and good at it. Normoids gets insecure/impressed easily when they see a linkedin profile with bunch of titles and numbers on it, what they will never understand is that everything can be fabricated online and the only way to figure out if someone is a decent person or not both personally and professionally is by judging them in person.

Even if you judge them in person, jeets and other turd worlders are good at lying too, so you better judge them as often as possible. Give them no room to cheat, excuse, or inflate themselves

>>106185886
Systems or Business Analyst is usually the generic title for people who do ERP or specialized sys admin (e.g financial, HR sys, Engineering sys). the usual wage at big corpo is like 90-110k burgers and consultants make more. hiring management may take into account the exchange rate for koala koins so you might end up lower than you want. are you solo consulting? what system are you working on?

>>106186039
>Even if that app was hosted locally, it wouldn't have made any difference because the issue caused by the developer.
my point was that cloud wouldn't make it better either.
if you are passing your security to cloud companies, then you are FUCKING RETARDED

>>106186139
jeets really fucked up hiring practices. I literally had to spend a month getting verified that everything on my resume was right cause they kept getting spammed by false and fake resumes from overseas.

My $250 JBL Xtreme speaker broke down. I ordered a $110 Anker/Soundcore speaker to replace it. The Soundcore one is way better. I guess money isn't everything.

>>106183748
Pre-lunch was usually the most productive part of the day since post-lunch was a bunch of meetings scheduled in a way that there was no time to focus on getting things done.

Another point for the morning was that I started fairly early, so I didn't have to bother with other people. My coworkers wouldn't start their day until like an hour/90 minutes after I did and it'd be like 05:30 in my manager's timezone when I started my day.

Is it even possible to become senior anything as a sperg with very bad soft skills?

>>106187750
Yes but good luck making any further than senior.

>>106187894
Very few people can get those roles anyway, so most normalfags are in the same boat as me haha get fucked.

I accidentally called copilot a clanker and it got banned me. What do I say to my it guy so it doesn’t look like I said something irl racist and homophobic?

>>106183253
>abstract concepts
it's just multiple and more complex feelings combined with experiences

I needed a whiteboard app. I search on github found one and tried it and it was shit.

So I just whipped up the AIs and I got one fresh baked without writing a single line of code.
Took about as long as it would take for me to do it myself considering that I have 0 GUI/GTK experience.

The problem is, vibecoding is extremely unpleasant. It's that same feeling when you have to look at the code somebody else wrote. It's just a horrible feeling when the AI fails and you have to take over.

>>106186146
it's not a hiring manager kinda deal it would be me solo being the support and admin for it (while I stay in Aus) as it grows in the states, so maybe 10 hours a week of effort I'd need to get paid for
Based off that 100k I'll double the hourly and get 100/h
I'll research a bit more but this is basically a consulting engagement where I'm recommending an ERP to a group, and they're likely to have it implemented but the group won't hire someone full time to manage it so I'll be managing the config and support of it and getting hit with taxes in two countries
Ideally it turns into more USA income and I can get back there and use the koala accent to my advantage

hey /twg/
my boss heard the fancy words from corpo, and now he wants to work with a roadmap, which falls upon me to build it
which tool should i use to build one? are web tools like miro worthwhile?

My manager hates me

We are days from the implementation of a 6-month project
I've been the lead business analyst from analysis through to testing
I've created, explained to devs, and tested every jira ticket on this project
No known bugs, feature complete
Devs are happy, business is happy
We are ahead of schedule
But today, I hastily proposed an incorrect solution in the project chat without fully thinking it through and to my manager that means everything

My manager tells me today verbatim "I would like to say something good about you, but I'm struggling to find anything positive"

>>106189422
>My manager tells me today verbatim "I would like to say something good about you, but I'm struggling to find anything positive"

is this a manipulative move to get you to insult them so they can fire you with cause? that is such a performative statement to say about anyone. you can find good things to say about anyone, even hitler. okay scratch that, you can say a lot of great things about hitler but it was just an example.

>>106189504
She definitely does want to fire me, and will eventually achieve it even if I bite my tongue and focus on my work
It's a shame because I do like my colleagues

>>106189531
i actually almost asked if it was a woman but i wanted to not incel post for once. i shouldnt second guess my instincts so much. that would be such a bitch made thing for an adult man to say.

>>106189531
>She

>>106189422
if you knew your manager is up in your ass you shoudn't make such rookie mistake
that said there's not much you can do if she's out there to fuck you. your best shot is make shit don't really work out if you're gone

>>106189422
Why does she hate you? Are you ugly? You sound ugly

Anyone know of any repos where you can fix bugs or build features and get PAID?

if i hear one more fucking unfunny joke in my standup i am quitting twice

>>106190105
I recall reading that graphene wanted to hire someone experienced in compilers to add features to their language
https://graphite.rs/volunteer/guide/graphene/

>>106190105
we are emerging startup with core java open source values...please send resume saar. we shall get in touch shortly ok.

>>106189422
>"I would like to say something good about you, but I'm struggling to find anything positive"
I think this could be considered harassment in my country. it would be really nice to have something like this to me because I'd be able to leave this fucking corpo crap. too bad my manager (a man) pretends to be nice to everyone, and even seems to like me a bit because from time to time I tell him how not to be a retard (in nice words, of course)

>>106190105

Reminder to check the leadership page before responding to a recruiter

>>106169727 (OP)
Jon Blow sucks and doesnt understand basic math.

>>106189220
roadmap.sh

>>106169917
Trump will being in more h1bs just like biden did. No matter who you vote for or who wins you always get john mccain.

>>106189219
sounds like a good deal anon especially if they lack internal knowledge. come in as Chad w/ a cool accent, don't document anything, fix/implement whatever they ask for (within reason), then renegotiate in like a year. teams in the US have had budget contractions so getting 32-40hr billable hours would be tough for this FY, but it can definitely be done in the long term (I've seen long-term consultant admins used as knowledge fill at big corpo when they were really supposed to be temp).

Im realizing a big part of the problem with modern careers is that top leadership is just not good at their jobs anymore.
They were always greedy and selfish and apathetic towards their workers, but they were still mostly good at their jobs of being leaders of companies.
But that isnt really true anymore.
Its one thing to make evil decisions that hurt lots of people, but even worse making evil decisions that hurt lots of people and also make the company worse off in every way

>>106191839
do NOT redeem the pattern sar

>>106191531
ITS STILL REAL TO ME, DAMMIT!

>>106191839
The economy is fake anyway
Even looking at it non-cybically, making long time profit doesn’t matter when your only goal is to increase stock value
But if you scratch the surface then it’s moneyprinters giving infinite money to companies they like like Blackrock who hand out money for bullshit like meeting stupid political agenda quotas

Just got offered 142k. Get gud nerds.

>>106192299
gratz

>coworker is responsible for a service
>they ignore me and my request regarding that service the whole day
>nothing, just ghosted
>I need to use it for my work, msg him and explain that I need to work too
>Yeah, soon
>He left office
>"anon, I need to do work" "I'm busy" is mantra of most service maintainers in my team
Am I wrong to feel upset?

What are your first impressions with GPT-5 assisted coding? I asked it to write a function that scales a Tamagui token so that I can give relative sizes to each child of a rich component I am building. B is what GPT-5 came up with today, A is my implementation.

I am not worried about my job security for some time.

Normalize saying 'I don't know'

GIVE ME A FUCKING JUNIOR DEV JOB RIGHT NOW

>>106192631
You can't be here.

>>106139058

>>106191839
I think you can blame at least 3 factors:
1. overhiring during and after the pandemic, which means companies not only hired any retard "technician" they could hire, but also shitty managers, C-levels and so on
2. big tech and their bullshit AI fad that they use as a convenient scapegoat to fire the ones hired during the pandemic, and
3. Musk who made treating workers like shit and blaming them for everything, including their failures of management and even HIS failures, trendy again
I guess 3 is a special case of 2. also, you could add jeets overtaking big tech to this list.

>>106192661
I'm not unemployable. I'm just temporarily between jobs.

>>106184076
Even without the personal drama devs look down their noses at IT people everywhere.

>>106183475
If the EV for the majority of the next generation becomes negative they'll just stop showing up and we'll figure out something else to do. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you want to trade on it.

>>106192631
If you're capable of providing value to a corporation you're capable of building something yourself. The health of the job market shouldn't concern you.

>>106192720
>If you're capable of providing value to a corporation you're capable of building something yourself. The health of the job market shouldn't concern you.
but the trick is the corporation pays me like Im working 40h when im in fact working 15
I am scamming the corpo, i cant scam myself

AI IS CRASHING OUT!
OUR JOBS ARE SECURED!

>>106192824
lol oh you're surprised no one falls for a scam.

>>106192299
congrats lil vigga

>>106192720
lol. did you hear that from hustlers university lil bro?
btw this general is for employed tech workers

>>106189009
>I needed a whiteboard app.
Why not just purchase a whiteboard and a marker?

>>106194189
Kill yourself faggot.

>>106189504
>you can say a lot of great things about hitler but it was just an example.
he literally destroyed germany

We used to be 80 people now we are 10 people left in the office because everything got offshored to romania or india.

>>106194267
Maybe those people should have just Learned to Code ?

>>106182676
based on what you chose to post I'd say you're looking at a grim future

>company moved to on prem because of nasty bear attacks
>need to hire some sysadmins to build and manage our upcoming prem cloud instances
>hire a local TA company that promises they will only hire "verified locals"
>recruiters send us nothing but morons

We've been unironically using a python fizzbuzz test to filter applicants and they've all failed so far. Every single one. Unironically why shouldn't I just import some jeets to do it if all the white "tech workers" we get can't even solve simple coding problems?

>>106189009
It’s like tardwrangling a female intern

>>106194356
Who the fuck would want to work at a place that gets attacked by bears

>recruiter emails me their shortlist of applicants
>it's all niggers, fags, and jews

>>106194406
A real coder would be able to solve the issue with Bash alone.

>>106194423
Why are they emailing you their shortlist?

>>106192676
>he has a job gap
NGMI IT

>>106194456
So that I can interview them. Are you unemployed or something?

>>106194544
Why are they making you do HR shit?

>>106181370
I thought I was a mid-tier dev and it turns out I really am a mid-tier dev. Should prob read more technical books.

>>106194553
Yeah you’re unemployed

>>106194573
he's indian and has only ever worked at concentrix and accenture please understand

>>106194423
How did you know without seeing their faces?

>faang team matching
>chink manager
how would you rate chink vs jeet vs jew vs white manager?

>>106194659
Why would you ever work for a non-White

there's no ai bubble. plan accordingly.

>>106195037
>500x500
>not 1:1 aspect ratio
webm was a mistake

I just got a job offer to be an IT field technician. Does anyone here have experience with this role? How is it? Where did your career go from there?

>>106194659
White/Chinese/Jewish are all fine.
Pajeets suck… except for the rare US-born Pajeet who is culturally western

>>106195169
t. chinese jew

>>106195159
poorfaggot

>>106195318
Bitch faggot

>>106194356
cause the jeets are also unable to code and now you also have poo in your streets

>>106195159
Spend 2-3 years gaining experience by doing every single thing you can. Update your resume, get A+, Net+, Sec+ then get CCNA. Move to a specialized role in the various fields that are out their and you are golden. You can expect to 3x your current pay in 2-5 years time if you take on alot of the bullshit projects. Also fuck around with linux, homelabs, server side stuff, and programming when you can so it can be added to the resume.

>>106194356
The fuck does python programming have to do with server side shit. Filter out people with Linux, Docker, Kubernetes, Azure, VMware, AWS, Redhat and Networking experience. Actual coding is a small promotion of server side administration. Also just outsource to AWS until you can get people hired for on prem work.

Everyone one on the app "blind" is an H1b. Jeet infested and Chinese infested. The comments are funny.

>>106191839
Management and C-suite are only interested in their golden parachutes and don't give a shit about the companies they manage. This ethos trickles down all the way to the bottom to the grunt workers, resulting in an organization that's completely toxic and on its way to death, surviving only the fumes of its former glory.

how do I get a software dev job that pays in crypto so that I don't have to pay income tax? has anyone done it?

i need to find the job and also to get the crypto money as cash without giving out my personal info. is that feasible?

i've been looking into this and couldn't find shit. the closest i could find is one reddit post asking this, but the responses were basically redditors being outraged about him not wanting to pay tax

I honestly could not give a fuck about 'the next generation'
the only people who matter are me and my family

Anyone quit their job because they're mentally ill?

>>106196286
Jobs wish i could quit them for the same reason. Turns out i am far to fucking stubborn to give a shit at the workplace if i am getting paid.

>>106195972
>how do I get a software dev job that pays in crypto so that I don't have to pay income tax? has anyone done it?
maybe work on something related to shitcoins, blockchains, web3 or whatever meme bullshit there is? ask >>>/biz/

>weekend
>office cafeterias closed
>have to cook own meals
>or pay 3x as much for take out
this sucks

>>106196601
how much does takeout cost in your area? here in my 3rd world country the cheapest (decent, home-made-like) food I could find costs US$6-7

tonight, i will watch a romantic movie all alone
nothing like friday am i right

>>106196701
Fryday
>>106196665
Takeout is like $20-$30, even for fast food, for one person. Delivery is another $20 usually

>>106196715
>delivery is another $20

>>106196927
Yeah that's why I don't bother with it

>>106195747
How can you administrate a network for making PRODUCTION software if you can't even fucking code?

>>106197076
I think you're stupid and baiting or an Indian trying to justify your choice of jeets on 4chan.

>>106197076
??? how the fuck are they supposed to use production software on a server if they don't know shit about servers? You seriously think they are punching on the keyboard all day to recompile already purpose built software? Sure they need to know code but they aren't making from scratch.

>>106197104
What do you think the server runs on? Fuck off nocoder.

zoomer who has only worked remote, for the past 4 years.

Work is going hybrid with mandatory 1-2 days in office depending on your team.

Whats a good headphone for in office use, the few times I've gone to the office in the past 4 years. I've just used my airpod pro 2 for teams call/music, but am looking to get a new set. Sound on the app2's are fine, not too sure about the mic.

Looking at the xm6, or airpod pro max, any other recs?

>>106197225
Hopes and dreams retard.

>>106197232
I have the airpod pro max and I'm kinda disappointed with the sound quality and mic, i'd try the sonys.

>barely a year of "real" support experience under my belt
>having to move 9 hours away and starting the job hunt again
>every fucking company has different names for the same shit so its impossible to tell at a glance what a job is
Any tips? I'm the pillar of a mid level workstation team.

>>106197232
Just a reminder it's only going to get worse
>t. RTO 5 days a week + my coworker got bitched at for being "unapproachable" for wearing headphones while working

goodnight /twg/
i hope there's a new thread when i wake up tomorrow
if i wake up tomorrow

powershell

>>106189422
Why the fuck didn't you list all this that you listed in your post to your manager? Next time come prepared, with a notebook and all your arguments listed and screenshots of every time the other side fucked up just in case if they delete or edit their old comments.

>>106197587
lol, we no longer have enough office space for every one to rto 5 days a week, even though they built a new hq a few years ago.

we have cubes at least, so not as bad as open office. But they are only fully enclosed on 3 sides. (vs the 3.5 you also see)

>bitched at for being "unapproachable" for wearing headphones while working.

Culture issue.desu. everyone wears headphones at my workplace and I don't see that changing. 1/3 of the corp was in office 1-2 days a week out of choice anyways. (lot of boomers who like going to office, and other who come in for food, or gym)

yeah i think im gonna do it, refuse the meta offer
idc to make 2x more, being wfh and having my dog next to me all day and going on hour-long walks with him in the middle of the day is too good
i dont wanna throw away happiness just to chase money and ego so i can say i work at fagman

I should learn Go. Feels like half of job ads mention it these days.

someone bake pls

>>106198587
but Go is bad. /g/ told me so.

>>106197796
why are you crying

>>106199070
>>106199070
>>106199070
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