Thread 106169870

Good fucking riddance, StackOverflow

I feel threatened by all the transsexuals on Stack Overflow

StackOverflow Jobs was really good and then the jeet CEO canned it, fuck em.

>>106169870 (OP)
>StackUnderflow
I agree, but I wonder where AI is going to get its training data now. It could very likely be bootstrapped beyond the point where it needs more training data, though.

>ask chatgpt how to do programming thing
>it gives a strangely specific answer with comments that don't make sense
>search google for part of the comment in quotes
>it's copy-pasted from a stackoverflow post

>>106169913
>It could very likely be bootstrapped beyond the point where it needs more training data, though.
That's not the case yet, despite what ClosedAI's marketing team says.

>>106169870 (OP)

SO is gay

Now we have JeetOverflow

>>106169940
Whoever made this image is likely a shitty programmer who can't take a hint
Seriously nobody ever tells you to do B unless A is fucking stupid.

For example: "help guys how do I set negative margins on my divs so they align right??"

>>106170159
ClosedAI isn't the arbiter of these things. Look at Absolute Zero Reasoner and other cutting edge self-supervised techniques. I follow what Chyna's doing more than them.

>>106169870 (OP)
>>106169940

>>106169870 (OP)
That sleazy fizzbuzz jew cashed out at just the right moment. Imagine that.

>>106169870 (OP)
I stopped contributing after Monicagate.

>>106169901
Also this.

>>106169870 (OP)
It looks more like the rise of discord and zoomers more than decline of stack overflow

most of the questions a programmer would ask himself have already been answered. the amount of questions is not infinite and quickly redundant. blaming ai, not sure about that.

>>106170347
its scary how close to home this hits and i dont even use that site much, nothing beyond when it comes up in a google search

>I don't have to wait for uppity retards to answer my question poorly while criticising it anymore
>I don't have to try to trick a search engine into showing me something that would be vaguely applicable to my problem anymore
Thank you AI Jesus

>>106172305
>hurr durr
I used to rely on StackOverflow, now I don't anymore because Gemini 2.5 Pro usually has the answer.

SO walked so AI could run.

>>106172467
answer probably taken from stackoverflow. if the ai doesn't have an answer, you will go back to stack overflow.

>>106172575
Correct, but thankfully 95% of the time I don't have to do that anymore.

>>106169870 (OP)
I remember people being very passive aggressive and smug.

no one cares about proto-reddit dying

>>106170347
See
>>106170284

My biggest problem with StackOverflow was that outdated answers (due to libraries and languages changing, etc.) would still be at the top of the search. AI may be even worse with that in the long run if it runs out of new sources to learn from since no one will be creating them because they're reliant on AI.

>>106172661
Yeah I noticed this too, but also with Google in general. You look up any programming question and you get an answer from the years 2009-2013.

>>106170291
>Absolute Zero Reasoner
That sounds like some shitty murim manhua

>>106172661
>>106172729
AI will soon switch to using MCP servers for all this stuff.

t. knower

>it got even worse
https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1882532/questions-per-month

>>106172750
What's that? Don't make me ask AI.

>>106172757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j1t3UZA1TY

anoddah Lucky Larry moment

I just went to StackOverflow and the questions were often more advanced and interesting than usual, I even just answered one. I think it's just becoming a niche for non-trivial questions.

>there's only 25 questions with bounties
grim

>>106172776
oy vey

>>106169870 (OP)
>>106169940
>>106170347
>>106172757
You all now remember that ExpertsExchange existed.

>NOOO YOU CAN'T ASK THIS QUESTION IT WAS ALREADY ASKED 16 YEARS AGO

>>106173312
>expertsexchange
lmao, good times. I never used it because back then I would ask my stupid noob questions in IRC and on comp.lang.c and comp.dsp.

>>106173342
I had a few programming friends who I could ask questions and was part of a few forums and IRC channels. Never got into usenet unfortunately, how is it these days?

>>106173429
I just tried checking comp.dsp on Google Groups and it's banned for containing too much spam lmao, and the other ones haven't updated in more than a year. I don't remember how to use a Usenet client so I just presume it's kinda dead.

>>106170284
Nah there's always a few retarded niggers telling you to do B when they are wrong and think they're smarter than the OP.

>>106173312
Isn't that the one where you needed to be subscribed to see the best answer

>>106169901
everything crash into the ground once jeets got to them - quora, reddit, 4chan

>>106173429
>Never got into usenet unfortunately, how is it these days?
It was great, now it is bad.

>>106173488
>comp.dsp
I remember that one well, it was one of the better newsgroups.
>on Google Groups
Google Groups stopped supporting Usenet News years ago.

>>106173790
Yes, and a lot of times I worked out the answer by reading the ones that wasn't marked the solution kek.

>>106172305
>most of the questions a programmer would ask himself have already been answered.
And the remaining interesting questions are so esoteric that faggot mods won't even understand the question and will immediately close it as unclear.

>>106169870 (OP)
30% of my Google search results go straight to a SO answer that answers my question sufficiently for me to figure out the remainder of my question myself.

The rest end up being an exercise in reading docs.

ChatGPT is useful as an exploratory tool into a new topic, or to generate some boilerplate Python script snippets where I can't be arsed to read the docs.

>>106173312
Oh, expert sexchange, it's been a while.

>>106169870 (OP)
because most questions have already been asked? all the solutions to your problem is likely already there
this just shows that new languages are not catching up ever to existing ones, as well as other irrelevant technologies

>>106169870 (OP)
maybe all possible questions have already been asked and no one posts duplicates anymore?

>>106169901
i remember reading it in the office at the end of the day when i didn't want to do any work anymore but still had to kill some time. good times

>>106172439
>I don't have to try to trick a search engine into showing me something that would be vaguely applicable to my problem anymore
this is the best thing about ai. it'll give you maybe a slightly incorrect answer but at least it'll give you some inspiration instead of completely unrelated stuff

>>106169940
>>106170347
And yet it's still miles better than Reddit where the average IQ is 20 points lower and people just post straight up lies and get upvotes.


Well managed forums that focus on a specific topic are god tier. Bonus points if they're PHP based instead of that Discourse garbage.

>>106173342
>comp.lang.c
What the fuck did you just say to me you little bitch?
t.Dan Pop

>>106176334
this is 90% of what i use chatgpt for anymore. google is absolutely useless for everything now. even for gooning yandex is better cause it isn't constantly pulling stuff for DMCA kek

>>106170284
most responses like that are along the lines of "erm don't you do dare optimize anything"

>>106176551
It's probably a usenet domain

Zoomers and most millennials wouldn't understand

>>106169913
They just hope the AGI will be a thing by the time any knowledge is gatekept

>>106169913
AI has been trained on mostly synthetic data for years now which is better than humanshit, how are people this far behind?

>>106170284

This is common among autists who can't conceptualize a world that isn't their own. I did eat breakfast and lunch tier shit.

in before go to reddit
Sometimes the only option to find any useful info on the dogshit that is the internet now.

>>106178308
>I did eat breakfast and lunch tier shit.

A lot of those fora and boards are full of third rate programmers who believe that access to Google turns them into an expert in every field there is. I have sent up a few "test balloons" in a few places to gauge the expertise based on thing people in the field know but don't write down. And it just falls to angry pieces every time.
It really says something about our times when the least bad sites include 4ch.

>>106172776
>>106173278
>Fucked over private equity
isn't that good

Google doesn't redirect to StackOverflow as often.

>>106170284
>Seriously nobody ever tells you to do B unless A is fucking stupid.

Ask how to do something in native javascript and you'll invariably get replies about how to simply do it in jquery or in typescript or a nodejs module that can do it, but not in NATIVE javascript.

>>106170347
That's a joke question with a joke reply though, like that one dude who wanted to parse html in regex and the dude making a reply got so mad it summoned Zalgo.

>>106173312
>ExpertsExchange

that site was just one big google pagerank scam.

>>106179122
everyone is memeing on this lately
it's about asking someone the question "how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today?"
and then the person answering is confused because they did have breakfast they apparently can't imagine another possibility or something

I never used to get actual answers there. No surprise people don't bother with it anymore.

>>106176254
>because most questions have already been asked?

Not true, new development tools, browsers, standards, libraries etc etc continue to be made, and will have new questions created for them.

I think what really caused a downfall was that the site diversified and created alt domains/subdomains for different topics like physics, book writing, movie plots, whatever.

>>106169870 (OP)
So ChatGPT didn't kill StackOverflow, it started dying before that.

>>106181841
>So ChatGPT didn't kill StackOverflow, it started dying before that.

They named a jeet as CEO in late 2019.

>>106169870 (OP)
Stackoverflow deserves to go down in history as one of he worst place in the internet.

>>106169870 (OP)
Seeing this always brings me joy.

>>106170284
>I dont know shit about your project or what you are making but I still insist in teaching you that I know better
>ChatGPT: To do A you can...
This is exactly why Sackoverfuck deserves to be replaced.

>>106169870 (OP)
this is a good thing, now stackoverflow will only have useful questions and answers.
>>106170347
this never happened btw

>>106181750
>Ask how to do something in native javascript and you'll invariably get replies about how to simply do it in jquery or in typescript or a nodejs module that can do it, but not in NATIVE javascript.
Literally had something like this. Scenario: I was on an appliance with Python 2 installed and installing modules was out of question (because updates would have broken things). Asked how I get to do A (parse XML and traverse the tree backwards) with stock Python 2. They told me what I would have to install lxml or simply use Python 3. Question was downvoted and I never got an answer. Figured it out myself eventually.

>>106178308
>who even uses PTT
the fuck? it was all i used in most games around when CS:S was at it's peak

>>106177850
>probably

ACK!-overflow.

>>106182047
>I was on an appliance with Python 2 installed
found your problem, don't install python on your refrigerator
install C instead

>>106181935
>ChatGPT: To do A you can [delusional gibberish that doesn't work and isn't correct in the slightest]
Finished your post for you. That was a close one. You almost pretended aislop was reliable for a second.

>>106182380
>don't install python
I didn't

>>106169940
>>106170347
I think you guys got filtered. If it’s A and people are saying do B I do another search. Same thing if the answer looks like the egg one, I just move on. Usually there’s at least one serious thread with a solution that works. I don’t bother to process how it could be Reddit or build up some bullshit resentment toward the user base. This is the overly negative 4chan attitude, and it makes board culture worse

>>106169870 (OP)
It wasn't ChatGPT that killed it but something else, the same thing that killed Quora.

>>106182088
I haven't used that shit in decades so I can't say with certainty.

And unlike an AI bot or causal 4ch dumbass I will explicitly express that I am uncertain when I don't know for sure. This board would be better if others did the same

>>106182465
Anon sometimes at work you get retarded questions or errors related to a specific piece of software, often paid for shit that either needs a support contract that "will get back to you whenever".

>x error related to specific virtual appliance in environment
>only stackoverflow and removed posts from their "community"

>asked to do specific thing from boss by end of the week with shitty software like sharepoint or some shit
>again only on stackoverflow for searching

>need last minute script done before the weekend so I can actually have it
>stack overflow has nearly a 1:1 of the issue
>WHY WOULD U DO THIS! LOL!

If I have infinite time sure I'll avoid stackoverflow but there are times at work it's crunch time and gotta use what comes up. At least most things I need with scripting Copilot does, still need to tweak it a bit but it is far better than stack

>>106181865
this explains everything

>>106170347
Only retards boil them. Steaming is faster and more efficient

>>106181750
>Ask how to do something in native javascript and you'll invariably get replies about how to simply do it in jquery […]
picrel is another classic

>>106170284
You don't get it, it's about XY problems

>>106182047
>Literally had something like this. Scenario: I was on an appliance with Python 2 installed and installing modules was out of question (because updates would have broken things).
Let me guess, you never specified these constraints in your initial question and people had to guess why you didn't want to follow the obvious path?

>>106170347
Missing the "STACKOVERFLOW STOP BEING EVIL [Putin Sucks XI JIPING WINNIE THE POOH] APOLOGIZE TO TRANS_123" usernames

>>106170347
>7 minutes
that's retarded. you start boiling, when water starts boiling stop heat and let it sit for 4 minutes.

So what happens when new tech has new problems and AI doesn't have any answers to steal?

>>106169870 (OP)
Anon, if you would bother to SEARCH, you would see that your question has already been asked before! Downvote!

>>106169870 (OP)
you will miss it so much in the future lmao

>>106178130
>AI has been trained on mostly synthetic data for years now
ok, and how would synthetic data tell you how to solve this or that bug in a new language, framework or whatever?

>>106185258
not if you have american electric water heaters.

>>106169901
Every 7 seconds another Indian gains internet access

>>106181785
it was about niggers and their IQ but i guess you did have breakfast or something

>>106185258
>leaving an egg sitting in boiling water
fucking idiot
you put the egg in an ice bath to stop the cooking process if you want perfect eggs

>>106169870 (OP)
Good

>>106169913
>I wonder where AI is going to get its training data now
from github which is owned by Microsoft which coincidentally has a large investment in AI

>>106181798
>new development tools, browsers, standards, libraries etc etc continue to be made
not at the same rate as before and not as important as it was. realize we just "launched" the internet. now it is running. what are those new tools? we can do tools with programming languages and issues have mostly been asked already, related to algorithms, functions and sql mainly.