Thread 106185241

Should I be using Cursor as a new programmer?

>>106185241 (OP)
no. Productivity tools are best for people who are already productive. You should be focusing on being better. This isn't the same as using a calculator, you're outsourcing your actual mental ability to solve problems.

>>106185241 (OP)
Yes.

>>106185304
found the codemonkey trying to gatekeep people from ordering their computer to make the app they want like a Chad.

Yes, coding is literally dead. Being a good software developer will be detrimental to your career in software development. Only focus on AI tools from now on.

>>106185241 (OP)
just started figuring out variables and loops? No. If Claude or GPT-5 suddenly starts pulling out reflection or metaprogramming you're so dead bro you have no clue.

fresh out of college, graduated with As and Bs?
Probably could, maybe.
Fresh meat tends to suffer from lack of guidance and being totally clueless about production tooling like git, CI/CD, any kind of deployment mechanism, and even just how to organize a project.
Fortunately these days the industry as a whole is a lot less cargo culty. More language ecosystems are also becoming more opinionated, meaning you don't have to think about it yourself.

>>106185241 (OP)
if you can scam a company by giving you a job and salary while letting cursor do all your work, then yes. You owe companies nothing, least of all quality work.

>>106187484
>You owe companies nothing, least of all quality work.
gr8 b8

>>106187568
>codemonkey seething in codemonics
many such cases.

>>106185241 (OP)
yes, we're full.

>>106185241 (OP)
I mean at what point do you even qualify as a programmer now? I believe the AI coding RN on my thinkpad is 100x better than you or any average coder out there.
Oh yeah it does stupid shit sometimes. Especially when the prompt is vague. Well then I can either refresh its context and bruteforce attempts until it figures it out statistically, or I dig in myself and solve it hopefully, which immediately takes me back to the days I had to rely on myself, "documentation" and stackoverflow/google/reddit.
Pure programming is probably dead, except for ultra nieche or suicide level complexity. That doesn't mean it's dead as a hobby lol.
But it doesn't hurt to actually learn wtf is going on if it's your PROFESSION. If you have no clue what a good program somewhere in the decision tree of design and architecture consists of, you will have to pay back "cognitive debt" when you can't explain shit. If the AI does all you should do, why should they hire you or keep you? Simple, you need the knowledge to translate to humans what the code does, put up a good mood and direct AIs to do their work properly.

TL;DR: Yes, but use the free time to actively learn and keep an eye on what AI does. The moment you catch yourself mindless approving changes, you lose in the long term.

>>106185241 (OP)
you should be making things
can you make things using cursor?
then make them
if you're trying to get a formal education, that's a different question
but your curriculum should be giving you the bases and obviously you should be doing things by yourself as much as possible to learn what you're supposed to learn
I coded with literal machine code on paper with a printout of the cpu
it wasn't even asm, I was literally given the schematic of the processor and I had to trace the fucking gates and write down zeros and ones
was it the most important thing I've ever done? probably not. I don't even remember it well enough to describe it. did it have a discernable effect on my ability to make things today? hard to say. it's a drop in the ocean, but there were a lot of drops

how does cursor compare to using github copilot or just copy/pasting code from the web interface?