Thread 106192000

>for years and years almost every image on the internet was .bmp, .jpg, .png, or .gif
>suddenly google shits out .webp and it infests tons of sites
>now .avif is surging in popularity
Is any of this new shit worth caring about?

Ill be real people don't like webp because of the name, it is better than jpeg. Avif people like because of the cool name

>>106192010
i thought people didn't like webp because it downgrades the quality to save on storage space. I don't even know what avif is. Just thought it was one of those oddball filetypes you CAN save an image as in photoshop but basically no one does.

I don't like webp because I use impression: eyes

>>106192045
webp can store lossless images, most people just don't use it that way

Pretty sure webp has advanced telemetry and meta data embedded it it. I think this is the precise reason 4chan removed it from the site after using it very briefly. Wouldn't be suprised if avif was just more of the same.

>>106192000 (OP)
You guys know you can just save webp as a jpg right

>>106192000 (OP)
>Is any of this new shit worth caring about?
it never is

>>106192000 (OP)
For personal use both webp and jpeg-xl do a nice job of replacing GIF/PNG which practically speaking occupy the most space. Jpeg-xl is newer and obviously better but doesn't have the same level of browser/software support as webp. The reason google uses webp instead of Jpeg-xl seems to be backward compatibility and some say there's a conspiracy for google to control the web via webp but idk.

As for replacing JPG, it'll depend on the kind of images you have. Which means there is no "universal" image format. You'll just have to use one for some images and another for other images.

Outside of web use jpeg-xl + avif seems to be a pretty reasonable combo for like 80% of people with modern devices. Otherwise webp + JPG if you're using like a pentium 4.

One thing that really confuses me is if webp is even a significant improvement over JPG in general. Some tests show that it is but others not so much which probably sounds like it only compressed certain images better than JPG. If in doubt just use webp to replace PNG/GIF and keep using JPG for uhhh JPG.

>>106192400
It is for replacing PNG/GIF. If you don't oxiPNG, and most people probably don't, webp offers like 50% better lossless compression efficiency and Jpeg-xl achieves even higher than that.

Which is pretty fucking cool because it means you might save so much space that you won't even need to use lossy compression at all.

>>106192827
>>As for replacing JPG, it'll depend on the kind of images you have. Which means there is no "universal" image format. You'll just have to use one for some images and another for other images.
jpeg-xl is fully backward compatible with jpeg, hence the name
you can transcode jpeg to jpeg-xl without loss of quality, and from jpeg-xl back to jpeg that is identical to the original. that is unlike webp, avif, or other shitty video-turned-image formats

>>106192852
>oxipng
why would you use this when pngquant exists
and why are you comparing anything unoptimized

>>106192000 (OP)
Why do you care about any of it at all?

>>106193188
Yes and that's a pretty cool feature but I'm talking about PNG to lossy where webp or jpeg-xl do not produce sufficiently desired small file sizes via lossless compression.

I don't really feel like digging too much into the image codec autism, I'm mostly interested in video codec autism. However from what I understand when going from PNG to a lossy image format you'll get varying levels of compression efficiency depending on the image source type. Sometimes Jpeg-xl will produce the smallest file size and sometimes AVIF.

>>106193233
I'm talking about lossless compression not lossy.

>>106193233
>and why are you comparing anything unoptimized
Because most PNGs ARE unoptimized. You can easily tell because the file size of the PNGs uploaded on 4chan are smaller when you download them because 4chan is using oxiPNG to compress them.

>>106193383
It is a mystery, /b/ro. This board is clearly not for you.

>>106193383
>but how does it affect you personally???
Fuck you

>>106194476
why are you mad?

>>106192000 (OP)
HEIC is also gay

i run troonix so yes I can handle all files but fuck all this shit

>>106194827
Fuck you

>>106194943
calm down Buddy lets not resort to villains

>webm good
>Webp bad