/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread - /g/ (#106192279) [Archived: 33 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:34:11 PM No.106192279
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:42:07 PM No.106192348
hello, fellow GrOb fan
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:25:18 PM No.106192860
volumetric-hard-disk-or-disk-drive-icon-on-the-network-vector
PC A has a chrootable system at /mnt/gentoo and shares it via NFS, PC B has the share mounted to exact same location locally. Idea is to copy it over but can't as there's files only readable by root so that's a "permission denied".
What's the correct move here? Tar it on PC A and extract it from the NFS share? Use rsync or something?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:18:25 PM No.106193426
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sjzbznzn
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X11 is number 1, wayland is bloat
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:21:27 PM No.106193457
>>106193426
X11 is bloat, just use a TTY
Replies: >>106194258
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:25:30 PM No.106193486
Waiting for MX Linux 25 so I can install plasma x11 session right away
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:54:58 PM No.106193793
>>106192860
Why cant you copy it over as root? Post your /etc/exports . Do you have the no_root_squash flag added to exports?
Dont know if nfs or rsync as root would perform better.
Replies: >>106197939
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:09:51 PM No.106193944
Hey I just installed Debian and something keeps bugging me.

Apparently I only have Vi installed but when I type in "man vi" I get the man page for Vim yet when I type vi in the terminal and press tab to show the options there is no Vim, only Vi.

I don't understand this. And I didn't find any explanation online. Can someone elaborate?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:20:43 PM No.106194068
>>106193944
in the console type: whereis vi
Replies: >>106194160
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:21:57 PM No.106194085
>>106193944
debian has this thing called vim-tiny which is what you apparently got. I once tried to replace that with regular vim but it turned out to be a headache.
Replies: >>106194160 >>106194478
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:22:24 PM No.106194088
>>106193944
There is no real vi installed as in other Unixes. vi is just a generic name that points to an implementation such as vim. Do ls -l /usr/bin/vi
Replies: >>106194160
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:27:18 PM No.106194136
In process of migrating from Windows, I have one media drive that's NTFS, should I bother formatting it to EXT4/BTFRS? I have backups. I might use it for game installation and I want to try to simplify future troubleshooting if there's any chance NTFS will give me issues.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:27:57 PM No.106194144
>>106194136
yes
Replies: >>106194171
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:28:41 PM No.106194152
>>106193944
If I were to tell you that Vim stands for "Vi-improved" does that help?
Yes, Vim is in fact a better Vi and it has a Vi compatible mode.
Replies: >>106194219
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:29:20 PM No.106194160
>>106194068
>>106194088
user@machine:~$ whereis vi
vi: /usr/bin/vi /usr/share/man/man1/vi.1.gz
user@machine:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/vi
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 16. Feb 06:23 /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi
Aparrently I only have Vi?

>>106194085
What? And more importantly why?
Replies: >>106194199 >>106194208
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:30:30 PM No.106194171
>>106194144
Thanks. I decided it was a good idea to switch mobos and cases in the middle of this process as well. Everything worked right out of the box...except the audio. Alsamixer showed muting on my outputs, so that turned out to be an easy fix.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:32:38 PM No.106194199
>>106194160
And that vi points to the real executable
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Aug 6 17:28 /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny
Replies: >>106194238
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:33:31 PM No.106194208
>>106194160
because debian does debian things. Some deem vim to be too big, hence they made a smaller version of it.
Replies: >>106194238
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:34:43 PM No.106194219
>>106194152
Not really. I am still confused what I actually run. I want to learn something and improve my skills but I am already getting confused since I can't figure out what fucking programm I run because they named them the same.
Replies: >>106194235 >>106194246
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:36:10 PM No.106194235
>>106194219
you're overthinking it
vi == vim
that's it, nobody uses the original vi anymore, it's named like that because idk
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:36:27 PM No.106194238
>>106194199
>>106194208
Wow, thanks! I think I actually learned something. So to do proper I either need to get some real Vi or some real Vim.
Replies: >>106194259 >>106194315
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:37:01 PM No.106194246
>>106194219
You are running Vim but in a Vi compatible mode. When you run Vim it runs in Vim's normal/regular mode instead of caring about all of the stupid idiosyncrasies of Vi that Vim does better anyway.
Replies: >>106194263
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:37:46 PM No.106194258
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>>106193457
tty is bloat. use a typewriter terminal connected to someone else gibson
Replies: >>106198098
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:37:49 PM No.106194259
>>106194238
you want some real vim.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:38:01 PM No.106194263
>>106194246
*By "When you run Vim", I mean when you run /usr/bin/vim instead of vi.

It is the same program either way though.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:38:33 PM No.106194270
How come corectrl doesn't show temps for my cpu although 'sensors' does? And what should my cpu governor be? Currently it's on demand.
Replies: >>106194281 >>106194282
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:39:30 PM No.106194281
>>106194270
>what should my cpu governor be? Currently it's on demand.
Performance when in use or Powersave when idle. The ondemand is a shit compromise between the two.
Replies: >>106194332
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:39:36 PM No.106194282
>>106194270
on demand is bloat. anything more than 15mhz is bloat. computers died in 1993
Replies: >>106194332
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:40:59 PM No.106194297
>>106193426
They're technically both equally bloat
Replies: >>106194314
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:42:27 PM No.106194314
>>106194297
bloat is bloat. just use a pen and paper.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:42:30 PM No.106194315
>>106194238
Or just install neovim, i think debian will also set up /usr/bin/vi and /usr/bin/vim as an alias for nvim (neovim)
Replies: >>106194339 >>106194409 >>106199914
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:43:41 PM No.106194332
>>106194281
>>106194282
Should I be manually switching between them in corectrl everytime? Performance and Powersave in this case.
Replies: >>106194367
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:44:18 PM No.106194339
>>106194315
neovim is bloat, just push character addresses on to the stack and into registers with syscalls.
Replies: >>106194478
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:46:39 PM No.106194367
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>>106194332
Also this is what I'm seeing rn.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:50:53 PM No.106194409
>>106194315
>Or just install neovim
wouldn't recommend that, tried it on ubuntu just to find out that all the colorschemes don't work since the version is too old.
Replies: >>106194454 >>106198758 >>106199914
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:55:15 PM No.106194454
>>106194409
recommending is bloat. just ridicule until suicide
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:57:18 PM No.106194478
>>106194339
Dude I appreciate the input but I am learning to walk on you tell me to sprint.

>>106194085 said it is a headache to replace it. And I just want to learn Vim without one arm tied behind my back by some strage tiny Vim version. I guess I am going with the bloat in this case.
Replies: >>106194515
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:59:05 PM No.106194499
>>106194136
I've been using an NTFS external drive and nothing bad happened in the past 6 years. You should be fine, but formatting to ext4 or btrfs is definitely better considering they're objectively better filesystems.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:00:16 PM No.106194515
>>106194478
walking is bloat, just get mexicans to carry you where you want to go.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:03:13 PM No.106194541
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Can I run non-Steam games like GW2 in Linux?
Replies: >>106194556 >>106194589 >>106196410 >>106198866
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:05:34 PM No.106194556
>>106194541
>Can I run non-Steam games
yes
>GW2
dunno
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:08:52 PM No.106194589
>>106194541
Yes you can run gw2, through lutris.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:09:58 PM No.106194599
Never-Give-Up
Never-Give-Up
md5: 2cd9e7183235cbc78cf2a234b6ab4d00🔍
I did it, I installed Mint (again), my 5th time doing so, and easily my something-teenth attempt at sticking with Linux. I've got Win11 on VirtuaBox this time, so maybe, just maybe, I'll be able to stick it out. I just need to setup my bluetooth audio shit tomorrow, too baked atm, and the transfer will be complete.

Should I make an offering to Linus or something, will this help with my endeavour?
Replies: >>106194624 >>106194722 >>106200966
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:12:04 PM No.106194624
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>>106194599
You got this.
Replies: >>106194841 >>106204666 >>106205461
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:20:18 PM No.106194722
>>106194599
What got in your way before?
Replies: >>106194841
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:20:55 PM No.106194728
Network transparency as a concept is a meme, prove me wrong
Operations that can incur the network latency need to be explicit
Replies: >>106195029
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:31:26 PM No.106194840
Where were you when I installed Gentoo?
Replies: >>106194867 >>106204364
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:31:27 PM No.106194841
>>106194624
Thanks bud

>>106194722
Autism really.

The first thing I can remember (if it actually was), I couldn't find an mp3 player that did what I wanted but that was a long time ago and there are plenty of decent ones now, so no issue. Then I was gaming all the time and got fed up with dual-booting (I've quit now); I tried running Manjaro and Ubuntu, as audio studios, but kept running into issues getting the sound to work, or my midi controllers, and gave up (probably fixable but I didn't have the time for messing around). Also, up until now, I still haven't been able to find an image viewer/editor that I like anywhere near as much Faststone -- doesn't work with WINE and xnview is the closest on Linux, but only an 8/10 if Faststone is a 10/10. I've got that on the virtual Win11 now anyway.

A bunch I just tried decades ago, even had a lot of ball ache just getting my wifi adaptor to work, but that's just how it was back then.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:33:23 PM No.106194867
>>106194840
Was mirin* bro.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:47:13 PM No.106195016
how do I edit source code in a mainstream way without needing to move my hand to the mouse or the arrow keys all the time?
Replies: >>106195038
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:48:34 PM No.106195029
>>106194728
proper use of a firewall with application specific rules does this.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:49:46 PM No.106195038
>>106195016
vim
hjkl
Replies: >>106195072
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:53:16 PM No.106195072
>>106195038
But that's not mainstream. I've been using Vim for a long time, but I want to go to the mainstream now
Replies: >>106195100
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:55:34 PM No.106195100
>>106195072
then chop your dick off already i don't give a shit what you do with your gender.
fucking troons i swear to god you disgust me
Replies: >>106195355
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:21:34 AM No.106195355
>>106195100
calm down
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:29:00 AM No.106195410
>>106193426
Wayland literally uses fewer resources.
Replies: >>106197011
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:36:51 AM No.106195485
When I installed Mint, it didn't create a swap file (I just went with the recommended option at install, where it does everything for you). Should I make one, or do I just not really need one with 32GB of ram?
Replies: >>106195503 >>106195535 >>106195855 >>106204383
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:39:01 AM No.106195503
>>106195485
If you don't know, go with the recommendation. Unless you do 3D rendering or some shit
Replies: >>106195548
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:39:14 AM No.106195506
>>106192279 (OP)
I am interested in trying out Debian 13 when it comes out in a couple days, what would I need to do to make it look like this?
Replies: >>106197830
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:41:08 AM No.106195523
today i learned about read elf and how to view a programs memory map
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:42:35 AM No.106195535
>>106195485
the advice used to be to make your swap double your ram, but that's insane with 32 gbs of ram, i have the same amount and i don't use swap at all, it will be fine
Replies: >>106195555
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:44:11 AM No.106195548
>>106195503
Cool, thanks man, I just thought it was odd that it didn't make one this time, but I've got much more ram now than before so I figure it's to do with that.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:44:43 AM No.106195555
>>106195535
Sweet, thanks dawg
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:16:07 AM No.106195855
>>106195485
If you want to use hibernation (aka "suspend to disk", aka "deep sleep") you'll need a swap file.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:09:30 AM No.106196315
I have a separate SSD for Linux. My main SSD contains Windows. How can I access the contents of my Windows SSD within my file manager?
Replies: >>106196507
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:13:17 AM No.106196351
How do I get that little circle scroll dragging function with Linux? Currently I have to hold the middle mouse button to scroll and its obnoxious.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:19:47 AM No.106196410
>>106194541
>Can I run
The answer is almost always on winedb/protondb, unless it's a very niche title
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:32:10 AM No.106196507
>>106196315
Mount the partition you're interested in, then it'll be in /media or /mnt most likely.
>how
Partition manager of your choice. Can be set up to be automounted as well if you require it. Usually said manager will have some related option somewhere.
I recall people having issues with bitlocker and hybrid sleep aka the fake power off to make it seem like it boots up faster, both which might prevent you from mounting it.
Replies: >>106196798
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:23:03 AM No.106196798
>>106196507
So I edited my fstab to include the uuid of my relevant windows partition and it worked. all of my documents are showing up in the folder i created in /mnt, but i have to manually navigate to that folder in my file manager. any idea how i can fix that? my file manager is pcmanfm.
Replies: >>106196810
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:24:13 AM No.106196810
>>106196798
to clarify, the partition doesn't show up under the devices tab, which is what i want.
Replies: >>106196844
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:24:58 AM No.106196815
udiskie
is a desktop automount.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:28:24 AM No.106196844
>>106196810
if i had to guess try to mount another drive, check where said file manager wants to mount it and replicate that
Replies: >>106197006
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:35:19 AM No.106196878
I realized something today about gaming on linux. Getting the game to run on linux *is* the game. Once it's running well you don't even care about playing it anymore.
Replies: >>106196988
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:56:20 AM No.106196988
>>106196878
What are you from 2015
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:56:34 AM No.106196990
>>106193426
no x11 is number 11, that is two 1s.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:57:50 AM No.106196994
>>106194136
you can convert ntfs to btrfs in-place
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:00:48 AM No.106197006
>>106196844
Turns out I had to add "x-gvfs-show" in the permissions of my fstab file.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:02:20 AM No.106197011
>>106195410
Then why does it make LO lag on my low-end laptop? LibreOffice runs just fine on X11 btw
Replies: >>106200335 >>106204725
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:20:40 AM No.106197110
shit
i thought i wanted "security" and added a strong passphrase to my ssh key
now i have to type a fucking sentence any time I want to do anything
Replies: >>106197119
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:22:31 AM No.106197119
>>106197110
A simple sentence is easier to type and remember than vomiting symbols in to your phrase. Its also more secure.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:48:07 AM No.106197268
Weird question, but where can I find a "repository" for Debian Rex, either a CD ISO or something I can compile onto a CD
Replies: >>106197287
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:50:21 AM No.106197287
>>106197268
Doy, turns out they're under https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/rex/

Next question: how can I efficiently download it all, ideally keeping the last modified date intact?
Replies: >>106197637
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:35:26 AM No.106197567
>>106192279 (OP)
What are the Nvidia drivers like on Linux nowadays? I'm thinking my new build will use mint but I wanna make sure my 5070 ti won't be turned into a 3060 or something
Replies: >>106197584 >>106197589
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:38:19 AM No.106197584
>>106197567
sucks for general desktop, it's great for headless workloads
Replies: >>106197597
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:38:59 AM No.106197589
>>106197567
I have a 4060 ti and the games I was running on windows run about what you expect, 10% worse through wine. So your 5070 will probably feel like a 5060. I do hate not having the manufacturer software package though.
Replies: >>106197597
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:40:19 AM No.106197597
>>106197589
>>106197584

What about games run through Linux natively?
Replies: >>106197605 >>106197606
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:41:19 AM No.106197602
>want a relatively stable daily driver for programming and web browsing
debian or nixos? i'm torn between these two.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:41:36 AM No.106197604
m2-res_720p_thumb.jpg
m2-res_720p_thumb.jpg
md5: 0421a3fb763dda2110a2b091765b3ec0🔍
What's the single prettiest custom distro you've seen? The kind that will make you feel like a sci-fi movie hacker.
Replies: >>106198285
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:41:38 AM No.106197605
>>106197597
Couldn't tell you but reports are they run as good or better. I don't play anything that runs naively on Linux, do they even make such things?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:41:40 AM No.106197606
>>106197597
pretty much the same, the best linux desktop experience you'll get with AMD or Intel
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:41:58 AM No.106197607
dude why the fuck is my linux os so broken
it just does random shit sometimes each boot up
this time i cant right click save images
what is this meme os
Replies: >>106197647
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:48:23 AM No.106197637
>>106197287
wget --mirror --no-parent https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/rex/
idk about keeping the dates I haven't used wget in a while, check the man page
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:50:15 AM No.106197647
>>106197607
You could at least tell us what distro you are using.
Replies: >>106197652
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:50:40 AM No.106197652
>>106197647
mint
Replies: >>106197662
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:53:14 AM No.106197662
>>106197652
People really need to stop recommending Mint based on 2017 advice. Mint has since been eclipsed by 99% of distros.
Replies: >>106197681
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:56:53 AM No.106197681
>>106197662
What's the go-to these days?
Replies: >>106197716 >>106197722 >>106197798 >>106197816 >>106198221 >>106199110
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:03:32 AM No.106197716
>>106197681
Linux is mature enough these days that most of them will give you essentially the same experience. I say roll a dice to pick between CachyOS and Fedora, either with the desktop environment of your choosing.
Replies: >>106197816
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:05:34 AM No.106197722
>>106197681
Arch for desktops
Debian for servers or serious workstation
Replies: >>106197734 >>106197760
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:07:39 AM No.106197734
>>106197722
There is no point in pure Arch for everyday users when Arch-based distros exist.
Replies: >>106197740
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:08:26 AM No.106197740
>>106197734
it's the other way around
Replies: >>106197768
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:11:21 AM No.106197760
>>106197722
How can Debian be a serious workstation when it will always have outdated hardware support?
Replies: >>106197771 >>106197839
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:12:31 AM No.106197768
>>106197740
What is the benefit of using archinstall in a command line instead of just installing an Arch-based distro that not only has a live environment to test in advance, but also all the defaults you were aiming for pre-configured?
Replies: >>106197777
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:13:08 AM No.106197771
>>106197760
In case you don't know of haven't noticed: Serious workstations usually don't have bleeding hardware and if they do then they provide support for stable distros only
Replies: >>106197804 >>106197839
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:13:47 AM No.106197775
ubuntu20-04
ubuntu20-04
md5: b2f9afe23d3ca8fd3c1c150b25aee31b🔍
I am wanting to upgrade my ubuntu server from 20.04 lts to 22.04 this is a "headless" machine so I always ssh in, but I have the pc stored on the tv display stand so I have it connected via hdmi as a backup if I can ssh.

however I can't seem t olog in when im physically accessing the pc, would the problem be configuration with login/interactive shell? how can I change it to where I ant login in physically at the pc?
Replies: >>106197810
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:14:19 AM No.106197777
>>106197768
they usually have custom repos/packages that may interfere with arch's, which is widely more supported than your arch-based distro
Replies: >>106197804
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:17:24 AM No.106197798
>>106197681
The big distros, as it's always been. Mint was supposed to be one of the most stable derivative distro but apparently it doesn't do the job anymore given your claims and in the end this cycle will repeat itself. Don't fall for the arch meme though.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:17:58 AM No.106197804
>>106197777
EndeavourOS uses the Arch repos, and CachyOS's repos are outright better.
>>106197771
>Serious workstations usually don't have bleeding hardware
Who the hell are NVIDIA selling the latest Quadros to, then?
Replies: >>106197818 >>106197839 >>106197939
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:18:45 AM No.106197810
>>106197775
Nevermind it seems ctrl + alt + f2 did the trick.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:20:19 AM No.106197816
>>106197681
>>106197716
If your diceroll lands on Fedora, remember that it does have 5 or so minutes of post-install setup to enable RPMFusion, which gives you access to packages like Steam, codecs, and NVIDIA drivers. Fedora is otherwise extremely polished and self-maintaining, but licensing does mean they can't supply certain software out of the box.

Just paste this into the terminal to install the missing components:
sudo dnf -y install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
sudo dnf -y config-manager setopt fedora-cisco-openh264.enabled=1
sudo dnf -y group install multimedia
sudo dnf -y install libavcodec-freeworld
And that's Fedora. Videos will now work, and NVIDIA drivers, Steam, etc should show up in your package manager (on Fedora KDE, this is Discover).
Replies: >>106198071
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:20:37 AM No.106197818
>>106197804
I dare you point me to a serious linux workstation using anything other than Debian/Ubuntu LTS/Red Hat.
You will be surprised!
Replies: >>106197839
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:22:03 AM No.106197830
1726463686286844
1726463686286844
md5: 72ef0a087d3ece23fb2b2fb5d1360f74🔍
>>106195506
>what would I need to do to make it look like this?
Look for Clearlooks-like themes, the border from the pic is 100% based on it but I'm not sure about the buttons
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:24:17 AM No.106197839
>>106197760
>>106197771
>>106197804
>>106197818
Aren't workstations manually configured by sysadmins anyway? You could manually install new NVIDIA drivers if you want.
Replies: >>106197843
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:26:04 AM No.106197843
>>106197839
Workstations from a serious company are usually managed/configured/updated automatically and remotely by sysadmins

>t. techworker
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:42:39 AM No.106197939
>>106193793
>Do you have the no_root_squash flag added to exports?
I didn't, that was it! Thanks.
>>106197804
>EndeavourOS uses the Arch repos, and CachyOS's repos are outright better.
Cachy is an Arch fork huh? Can you honestly recommend an Arch fork, ever?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:06:06 AM No.106198071
>>106197816
Now sit and wait until the RPMFusion repos get out of sync with Fedora's repos and watch the whole house of cards fall apart.

The Fedora model of:
>We can't provide you with hardware support, you need to get it from a third-party
Doesn't work.
Replies: >>106198113 >>106198129 >>106198136
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:11:05 AM No.106198098
Screenshot_20250809_000935
Screenshot_20250809_000935
md5: 9effb193f40fff8843e2ed179ac62f22🔍
>>106194258
Typewriters are bloat. use a holepunch and paper to program commands.
Replies: >>106204788
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:13:51 AM No.106198113
>>106198071
I should mention it does work fine in the vacuum of an immutable distribution like Bazzite though because they won't push new base image updates without proper hardware support so nothing is ever out-of-sync.

Regular dnf/rpm Fedora is broken by design though. It will only run fine on a server. For a desktop use-case where you want proper hardware support and multimedia codecs it will eventually break on you.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:17:05 AM No.106198129
>>106198071
>Now sit and wait until the RPMFusion repos get out of sync with Fedora's repos
Wat.
RPM Fusion is maintained in large part BY Red Hat/Fedora Project members. Moreover, NVIDIA drivers from RPM Fusion will NEVER break from imaginary Fedora dependencies being too new. Are you sure you're not confusing this with the AUR experience on Manjaro?
Replies: >>106198152 >>106198261
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:17:17 AM No.106198132
Fellas give me a hand, I have an specific "Does the funny penguin work for me?" Issue.
How's the software compatibility if I'm a digital artist? I do Animation, Motion Graphics, Graphic Design and Gamedev.
I can live without Adobe, but how about everything else?
Also I have a Nvidia cart and AMD CPU
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:18:01 AM No.106198136
>>106198071
>update of some thing gets delayed by a week, everything else gets updated as usual since it skips conflicts by default
The horror.
Replies: >>106198152 >>106198210
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:20:39 AM No.106198152
>>106198129
I'm talking about ffmpeg, but a binary kernel driver will break too if that becomes out-of-sync with the Fedora kernel. You either won't be able to update the system or you will update the system and it will break.
>>106198136
It is a horrors show, yes. A critical part of your operating system should never be dependent on a third-party. You should never design a system in such a way that you have two independent systems that need to operate in lockstep but are operated independent of each-other.
Replies: >>106198205 >>106198210
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:30:59 AM No.106198205
>>106198152
That's not how it works.
Firstly, ffmpeg and your other codecs are protected by WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE.

As for drivers, I already said that RPM Fusion is in large part maintained by Red Hat/Fedora Project members, who have advance knowledge of Fedora commits. In other words, the guys responsible for deciding to push kernel updates on Fedora are also the same people responsible for ensuring the NVIDIA drivers on RPM Fusion are compatible.
Replies: >>106198223 >>106199887
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:32:20 AM No.106198210
>>106198152
I have yet to see fedora breaking in 3 years of daily use. Its not like I havent tried to break it either.
Worst that has happened is>>106198136, which is why i posted it in the first place
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:34:48 AM No.106198221
611OadzWB6L
611OadzWB6L
md5: 91a919daa53a339e1578249a230ce336🔍
>>106197681
It really depends on how much work you want to put in. If you want something that just runs, use Ubuntu / Mint. If you're interested in learing how linux works under the hood, use Arch.
I personally started with Ubuntu, but switched to Arch because I wanted to be more hands-on. Getting experience from breaking and fixing my installation countless times even helped me land my current sysadmin gig.
Replies: >>106199369
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:35:16 AM No.106198223
>>106198205
>That's not how it works.
>Firstly, ffmpeg and your other codecs are protected by WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE.
I don't think you understand what that means because userspace breaks all of the time.

If Fedora bumps Mesa (not relevant for NVIDIA users but relevant for AMD users) or their libav version such that packages in their repository link against these newer versions then that is a userspace breakage (ABI change). To people only using the Fedora repository you will never even notice this but to people using a weird Fedora + third-party repository hybrid you will notice this because you either won't be able to install certain packages or they will break or the package manager will scream at you.
You really do have to update everything in sync at the same time but that's not what actually happens when Fedora does major updates.
Replies: >>106198405
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:35:23 AM No.106198224
my ssh keys all have a 007 permission state, i wear my beautiful heart on my sleeve
Replies: >>106198294
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:39:53 AM No.106198261
>>106198129
I'va had my fair share of Nvidia annoyances with Fedora before. Better than Arch, but not flawless.
Replies: >>106198280
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:42:56 AM No.106198280
>>106198261
For what it's worth when I ran Arch and still had NVIDIA hardware the only issues I had were self-inflicted by NVIDIA (extremely shit drivers).
Arch is normally good about waiting until NVIDIA is ready before updating their kernel and they package everything in their main repository and not some weird third-party.
Replies: >>106198325
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:43:27 AM No.106198285
>>106197604
Crunchbang
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:44:44 AM No.106198294
>>106198224
Any particular reason why your key needs executable permissions? You're not running ~/.ssh/id_rsa are you?
Replies: >>106198318
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:48:49 AM No.106198318
>>106198294
no im just retarded. i will continue to ruin my life due to my learning ddisability
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:49:52 AM No.106198325
>>106198280
If i was stuck using Nvidia i'd be for work, so i'd would grab anything that stays frozen in time like Debian just to not deal with their retardation, as the only game i play benefiting from any 3D acceleration is pre 1.8 Minecraft and CUDA doesn't change that often. AlmaLinux recently got first larty support for Nvidia so i'ts worth looking at.
Replies: >>106198331
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:50:54 AM No.106198331
>>106198325
Fuck i'm half drunk, spelling is a over the place.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:53:34 AM No.106198353
1754369821613206
1754369821613206
md5: c71392714bbd09e3f6444640c31db0d5🔍
any known cure for distro-chasing?
Replies: >>106198364 >>106198365 >>106198377 >>106198431 >>106198638 >>106199416
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:54:22 AM No.106198364
>>106198353
having a job
Replies: >>106198657
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:54:27 AM No.106198365
>>106198353
You stop when you find the one that works for you. If you didn't find it yet then maybe you just have ADHD.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:56:02 AM No.106198377
>>106198353
It's called Gentoo
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:00:02 AM No.106198405
>>106198223
I have yet to see a rebuttal regarding RPM Fusion and the Fedora repos being maintained side-by-side.
Replies: >>106198527
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:04:15 AM No.106198431
>>106198353
Start using Arch
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:20:46 AM No.106198527
>>106198405
You won't ever see one because Fedora users all act like this isn't even a problem (it is, especially during major upgrades).

Ask yourself why no other distribution maintains core packages in this manner? Fedora will never change though, that's why desktop focused distributions of Fedora exist in the first place.

At least they'll be able to start shipping H.264 hardware support in 2027 again. Although, by that time maybe H.265 or H.266 (VVC) usage will increase.
Replies: >>106198594
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:30:13 AM No.106198594
>>106198527
>You won't ever see one because
You won't ever see a rebuttal because there is none. RPM Fusion and Fedora repos being side-by-side guarantees compatibility.
Replies: >>106198622 >>106205923
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:34:56 AM No.106198622
>>106198594
They don't guarantee compatibility though. They even have an FAQ on this:
>Broken deps, What to do ?
>
>if dnf update show broken deps when update pacakges that are in Fedora and in RPMFusion, don't worry, this happens a lot and usually happens when one package goes to updates (stable) and other still in updates-testing, in this case you should try enable the testing repo that is needed for example dnf install --enablerepo=epel-testing libdav1d libjxl
>
>In some cases if the counterpart package usually the freeworld packages doesn't appear in the repo for more than 2 or 3 days, might be because the package maintainer doesn't updated the package, if that happen, you can ask RPMFusion by email, IRC or reporting a bug to update the package, helping out the project
https://rpmfusion.org/FAQ#Broken_deps.2C_What_to_do_.3F
Replies: >>106198680
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:37:55 AM No.106198638
>>106198353
Discovering that you can change the desktop enviornment
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:41:22 AM No.106198657
>>106198364
This. Stop masturbating over your setup and get some work done.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:44:54 AM No.106198680
>>106198622
>In some cases
name one
Replies: >>106198703
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:47:11 AM No.106198692
I want Debian 13
I want it now!
Replies: >>106198735
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:50:29 AM No.106198703
Screenshot 2025-08-09 at 06-48-42 Fedora RPMFusion update broken Reddit at DuckDuckGo
>>106198680
Did you try doing a single web search? Why are you pretending that not a single person has ever had a problem with this broken model of distributing core system packages outside of the control of your distributions main repositories?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Fedora+RPMFusion+update+broken+Reddit&t=h_&ia=web
Replies: >>106198721
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:52:46 AM No.106198721
>>106198703
Works on my machine.
Replies: >>106198730
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:54:02 AM No.106198730
>>106198721
I'm sure it does (for now).
It's still not really the best foundation to build off of.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:55:02 AM No.106198735
>>106198692
You can enable the testing repo and get it now.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:58:31 AM No.106198758
>>106194409
ubuntu is not debian
Replies: >>106198778 >>106198780
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:01:40 AM No.106198778
>>106198758
and? The problem came from the ancient version used in ubuntu 24.04, I doubt debian stable would have been any better in that regard.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:01:46 AM No.106198780
>>106198758
debian has an even older version of nvim
Replies: >>106198868 >>106199914
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:09:41 AM No.106198824
1728776808292
1728776808292
md5: 24b9d0f90a092d7fbc1150a01072e53a🔍
One of the thing that bugs me about linux, for example the program qbittorrent, if I add a torrent URL to be opened remotely, there's no indication of whether that web request is still running or not. It MIGHT pop up the metadata window a few seconds later and ask me to assign a category and start the torrent, or it might never appear. Did it cancel? Is it retrying? It is stuck in redirect/captcha hell? There's no way to know. It's just some invisible background process I have no way of inspecting.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:17:50 AM No.106198866
>>106194541
a fellow FHD sparklegoon, on my /g/?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:17:56 AM No.106198868
>>106198780
That's because Ubuntu basis itself off of a snapshot of newer versions of Debian (and also packages some packages with newer versions themselves). When Debian 13 releases then Debian will have a newer version than them again, until the next version of Ubuntu releases again and so on and so forth.

>Ubuntu
$ nvim --version
NVIM v0.9.5
Build type: Release
LuaJIT 2.1.1703358377

system vimrc file: "$VIM/sysinit.vim"
fall-back for $VIM: "/usr/share/nvim"

Run :checkhealth for more info


>Debian 13 (testing)
$ nvim --version
NVIM v0.10.4
Build type: Release
LuaJIT 2.1.1737090214
Run "nvim -V1 -v" for more info


>Ubuntu Devel
$ nvim --version
NVIM v0.10.4
Build type: Release
LuaJIT 2.1.1737090214
Run "nvim -V1 -v" for more info
Replies: >>106198933 >>106199914
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:27:22 AM No.106198933
1752649217838857
1752649217838857
md5: 24ceddcb1fc4eb3a2793265892117486🔍
>>106198868
Yeah im aware. Anon's statement is still true, at least until the release of debian 13.
You should include it in your list, its kinda funny.
Replies: >>106198954 >>106199836
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:30:30 AM No.106198954
>>106198933
Yeah, they're right. I just wanted to challenge the general idea that Ubuntu's packages are newer than Debian. They are only newer than them at that point in time because of the way they do their branching (Ubuntu branches off of Debian's Experimental / Sid "distribution").

So yes, today you might have broken colour schemes with Debian but tomorrow you will not. That's the Debian experience for you.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:41:25 AM No.106199025
file
file
md5: ed5792434da3c50a60c1bd16dea0a7af🔍
Is it possible to get this piece of shit working with wifi 6 on linux or should I buy a new Intel based card?
Replies: >>106199035
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:43:09 AM No.106199035
>>106199025
Should be supported since 5.12 or newer?
https://linux-hardware.org/?id=pci:14c3-7961-1a3b-4680
Replies: >>106199061 >>106199390
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:44:07 AM No.106199043
Screenshot_20250809_144007
Screenshot_20250809_144007
md5: 40ccd05251bc6af3488eba06b1324ea3🔍
does anyone know how to remove the shadow between panel and window on kde? I legitimately going insane over this
Replies: >>106201808
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:48:02 AM No.106199061
>>106199035
You might also need newer firmware which should come with your distro but some are notoriously bad at updating that (which is why some people likely report Bluetooth issues):
https://github.com/morrownr/USB-WiFi/blob/main/home/How_to_Install_Firmware_for_Mediatek_based_USB_WiFi_adapters.md
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:56:19 AM No.106199110
>>106197681
Bazzite if you're a gaymer, Aurora if you are not.
Anything Arch-based that's not immutable if you don't want an actual working OS and just want to tinker with your PC.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:42:26 AM No.106199353
1726122376635192
1726122376635192
md5: 5d02330481b99b3f20480701702eb817🔍
Is there any way to auto/machine translate japanese VNs?
There were fully working tools that worked fine under windows xp.
It wasn't accurate by any means but it was enough to understand what's happening.
It worked by capturing the VN process and looking for the text data that's being displayed and translating it locally, and not this OCR shit.
Replies: >>106199443
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:44:45 AM No.106199369
>>106198221
>If you want something that just runs, use Ubuntu / Mint
stfu. Have you even used Linux in the past 5 years?
Replies: >>106199443 >>106199556
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:45:52 AM No.106199376
PXL_20250809_073423942.MP
PXL_20250809_073423942.MP
md5: eede1638e6248c5369b78818119b95a2🔍
is it ogre?
smartctl -x output - https://pastebin.com/NJQtn7G2
Replies: >>106200409 >>106200427
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:47:53 AM No.106199390
>>106199035
then i just need to git gud. I installed endeavourOS and the signal was just trash, refused to connect to the 5GHz band. are there any special drivers i need to install?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:52:21 AM No.106199416
>>106198353
Install Slackware
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:57:28 AM No.106199443
>>106199353
What snaps do you have installed, lad?

>>106199369
He's right though, Ubuntu just works
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:19:11 AM No.106199556
>>106199369
Have you?
In what way is Ubuntu NOT a distro that just runs?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:22:46 AM No.106199578
Does Fedora do automatic snapshots yet?
Replies: >>106199706 >>106199952
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:32:57 AM No.106199622
So I want to make a vm on my main linux host to be a simple dev environment for personal projects so I don't litter my main OS with shit I don't normally use. I'm using virtual box, I set my vm to have 8 cores, 8GB of RAM, 50GB pre-allocated HDD space on a HDD drive (not SSD) boot it up and set it up and it feels so fucking slow. Like fuck me, and my computer is not slow at all granted my main OS runs off an NVME drive but I can't believe a VM on a HDD should be this slow? Do I just try install it on an SSD instead? Or is there some trick to getting good vm performance on linux, as all my VMs even a windows one felt so damn slow. My CPU is an i7 model too so I can't think that would be the bottleneck.
Replies: >>106200474 >>106200498
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:46:35 AM No.106199706
>>106199578
Nope but the atomic distros (Silver blue) support rollbacks.
Replies: >>106199844
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:13:40 PM No.106199836
>>106198933
Surprised that debian doesnt backport nvim. Does it require a lot of dependences?
Reckon its possible to get away with pinning unstable and using unstable neovim on stable?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:14:51 PM No.106199844
>>106199706
I don't want atomic because I need root access for my ricing
Replies: >>106199853 >>106200441
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:16:10 PM No.106199853
>>106199844
I also need proper NVIDIA drivers. So yeah, no immutable Fedora for me.
Replies: >>106200441
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:17:44 PM No.106199856
xinput disable on KDE only works if you put a sleep delay, why is that lol
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:24:01 PM No.106199887
>>106198205

As an additional note: rpmfusion packages ending in -freeworld are just Fedora Project SRPMS rebuilt with slightly different build arguments. Red Hat legal cleared doing that.

When Fedora bumps a package, rpmfusion gets that same bump automatically because while it is not publicly disclosed in the open for legal reasons, they have tooling to ensure everything stays in sync because there is proper cooperation involved. It is third party in terms of legal entity only, and exists as a legal loophole.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:32:08 PM No.106199914
>>106194315
>>106194409
>>106198780
>>106198868
Vim is fine for many people but if you want the latest version of Neovim you can get it from Homebrew
>Current versions:
>stable 0.11.3
https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/neovim
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:41:09 PM No.106199952
>>106199578
Just set them up yourself. Pika backup, Back in Time, Timeshift, Bacula etc
Replies: >>106199969
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:43:35 PM No.106199969
>>106199952
>Just
CachyOS it is, then.
Replies: >>106200027
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:51:59 PM No.106200027
>>106199969
Opensuse Tumbleweed then, most similar to Fedora. Although it's LGBT political.
Replies: >>106200036
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:53:33 PM No.106200036
>>106200027
Causes the devs believe in have no impact on how the OS works, anon-chan
Replies: >>106200229
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:14:24 PM No.106200154
>to display video duration in Dolphin you must index the drive
>this causes 10-30gb of read on the OS drive every time I start the computer
Why does Linux have to do this while Windows doesn't even need you to index the drive to display video duration? Also why is there such a range, how come sometimes it's only 10gb and sometimes 30gb when the index size is only 1gb.
Replies: >>106200313 >>106200422
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:26:54 PM No.106200229
>>106200036
Yeah so?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:40:01 PM No.106200313
>>106200154
Windows always indexes your drives as far as I know
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:45:18 PM No.106200335
>>106197011
LO's wayland support has never worked right, you need to run it with xwayland
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:58:50 PM No.106200409
>>106199376
is this that fedora bug that was talked about a few days ago?
Replies: >>106200481 >>106200740
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:01:21 PM No.106200422
>>106200154
If you want the duration of a video just run this

ffprobe -v error -show_entries format=duration -sexagesimal video.mp4
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:02:44 PM No.106200427
>>106199376
Run a btrfs check from a live CD.
Replies: >>106200481
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:06:13 PM No.106200441
>>106199844
>need root access for my ricing
You still have root access and you can write to /var and /etc.

>>106199853
>I also need proper NVIDIA drivers
I mean, you can use an atomic distro which has them by default. Like Aurora.
Or, you know, you can just install them with "rpm-ostree" just like you would on any distro. Fedora Atomic isn't a completely locked-down immutable system. You can still change it as you wish and install packages system-wide. So it's not really immutable in a traditional sense, considering you can "mutate" the system by layering (installing) new packages on top of it.
As far as I'm aware the only issue you'll face is using secure boot when you manually install nVidia drivers, but I remember there being a very simple guide for this.
Replies: >>106200458
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:09:48 PM No.106200458
>>106200441
Frankly, uninstalling all the flatpaks and manually reinstalling everything to rpm-ostree sounds like more work than enabling snapshots on regular Fedora
Replies: >>106200470
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:11:46 PM No.106200470
>>106200458
>2025
>not using flatpaks
Replies: >>106200705
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:12:43 PM No.106200474
>>106199622
Yes, HDDs are super slow as OS drives.
>linux host
>virtual box
Could be this though, idk. Everyone uses KVM/Qemu.
>simple dev environment for personal projects so I don't litter my main OS with shit I don't normally use
So both are Linux environments, right? Why not do a simple container? I don't necessarily mean Docker or anything but simply a dir that you chroot/systemd-nspawn into.
>litter my main OS with shit I don't normally use
What kind of litter are we talking? Manually compiled stuff by default goes under /usr/local so that's sort of different from your "main OS", at least from the package management perspective.
Replies: >>106201538
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:14:24 PM No.106200481
>>106200409
not a clue, I'm on arch
>>106200427
thanks anon, I'll do that
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:16:57 PM No.106200498
>>106199622
>a simple dev environment for personal projects so I don't litter my main OS with shit I don't normally use
That's what distrobox is for.
>virtual box
Use virt-manager (kvm). It's significantly more performant.
>HDD
You'd need to use a lightweight distro/DE if you want it to not suck on HDD.
Replies: >>106201538
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:50:27 PM No.106200705
>>106200470
They use more disk space plus have overhead.
Replies: >>106200769
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:55:06 PM No.106200740
>>106200409
No, that's a 6.15 series kernel bug which causes journal replay to fail if the fs isn't unmounted correctly. It prints btrfs_replay_log errors.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:57:46 PM No.106200766
Hey, can someone neofetch on debian 13 gnome on idle and then with 2 browsee tab opened. Want to check ram usage
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:58:15 PM No.106200769
>>106200705
Do you not have the money for another 10-15 GB of extra disk space? Fuck, I'll send you a 32GB micro SD card where you can store all the flatpak dependencies you'll ever need.
Replies: >>106200793
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:00:44 PM No.106200793
>>106200769
When you dismiss optimisation, you end up with Windows.
Replies: >>106200864 >>106200887
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:09:15 PM No.106200864
>>106200793
sure thing bud
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:12:14 PM No.106200887
>>106200793
All we ever do with computers is dismiss optimization. What makes Windows shit is design to fit corporate strategy rather than use case.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:18:17 PM No.106200933
1729110628194045
1729110628194045
md5: bb83ee29259401ef250991ab1b3430cc🔍
I just learned about the "reset" command, do you ever use this?
Replies: >>106200958
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:18:48 PM No.106200939
Why do you faggots keep using Gayland when you can stop being a turboniggerfaggot and install Xlibre?
Replies: >>106200989
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:21:10 PM No.106200958
>>106200933
If the terminal gets garbled or screwed up, yes. There's not much other use for it though.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:21:39 PM No.106200966
>>106194599

ah yes my first mint install no efi no fat partions do not believe me
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:24:56 PM No.106200989
>>106200939
>XLibre has no corporate backing (say goodbye to any NIVIDIA support)
>XLibre has dubious code quality (X.org reverted a bunch of very broken changes the XLibre developer made only for XLibre to then do the same)
>XLibre has no support for modern display technologies (no HDR)
Replies: >>106201067
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:34:27 PM No.106201067
>>106200989
>XLibre has no corporate backing
That's a good thing.
>XLibre has dubious code quality
Any concrete examples instead of just spitting empty words?
>HDR
Useless bullshit.
Replies: >>106201113 >>106201127
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:38:34 PM No.106201113
>>106201067
https://www.phoronix.com/news/X.Org-Server-Lots-Of-Reverts
Replies: >>106201193
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:39:35 PM No.106201127
>>106201067
>Any concrete examples instead of just spitting empty words?
https://www.phoronix.com/news/X.Org-Server-Lots-Of-Reverts
>HDR
>Useless bullshit.
For you maybe. I happen to own HDR displays and would like to use this capability.
Replies: >>106201193
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:47:13 PM No.106201193
>>106201113
>>106201127
>There was this revert for not handling copyright and license notices correctly
Yeah, that's definitely something concerning vode quality (no).
Also, breaking some stuff like Nvidia support is not necessarely about the changes being bad, it can also be about the original code being shit. And it is.
Replies: >>106201201
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:48:06 PM No.106201201
>>106201193
Yes, I'm sure the code that broke Randr a core functionality of Xorg was just shit and needed to be broken all along.
>Cope
Replies: >>106201247
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:49:13 PM No.106201211
im multi-booting from my ssd and i installed ubuntu and put the /boot/efi bootloader on a usb stick so i can use an earlier install of rEFInd instead, should i comment out the usb drive in /etc/fstab or switch it to the original boot/efi rEFInd partition?
it kind of feels like im doing this in an extremely fucked up way but it boots fine as it
Replies: >>106202882
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:53:16 PM No.106201247
>>106201201
If original Xorg code is that good that it shouldn't be broken, then why is Gayland written from scratch instead of just making Xorg better using all the original good code™ that shouldn't be broken?
Replies: >>106201261
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:54:51 PM No.106201261
>>106201247
Because it's not that good. It's a legacy pile of crap that nobody understands properly, not even the XLibre developer that innocently goes about making changes that break things they then have to go and revert.
Replies: >>106201309
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:00:33 PM No.106201309
>>106201261
>it shouldn't be broken, it's good code
>that's legacy shit, no one knows how it works
Would you care to fucking decide if it's actually good or not?
Replies: >>106201363
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:06:59 PM No.106201363
>>106201309
It's bad, very bad. That's why a new design was needed. You might not like Wayland but it's a much more modular design than X11.
Replies: >>106201439
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:12:34 PM No.106201415
>>106192860
just ssh into it and install it that way.. why on earth would you...
Replies: >>106202882
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:13:42 PM No.106201430
>>106193944
sudo apt-get install nvim
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:14:30 PM No.106201439
>>106201363
>It's bad, very bad.
And that's exactly why it needs to be broken and results being broken.
Replies: >>106201451
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:15:33 PM No.106201451
>>106201439
Do you want X11 or not? If you do then you want all of that legacy technical debt that the people left using X11 are still reliant upon.

If you don't then what you actually want is an X12 but that doesn't exist.
Replies: >>106201469
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:17:43 PM No.106201469
>>106201451
What I want is for you to remember what the original topic of the discussion was and to stick to it.
Replies: >>106201484
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:19:14 PM No.106201484
>>106201469
The original topic was XLibre being of dubious quality, yes. You can't justify them breaking things by saying it needs to be done, not unless you're advocating for them breaking the X11 protocol entirely.

In the real world people still use and depend on that legacy crap which means XLibre CANNOT break it. This is why it's a joke and people that need X11 still keep using X.org.
Replies: >>106201518 >>106201566
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:23:41 PM No.106201518
>>106201484
anyone of you tested it? I know you have it in gentoo but I don't want to break my daily driver
Replies: >>106201611
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:25:53 PM No.106201538
>>106200474
Yeah I was going to give Qemu a try but I got lazy and just used virtual box again.
>What kind of litter are we talking?
The sort of rubbish that maven, npm and other package managers pull and then when you finish the project you forget about, its just easier if its all in a vm that when I'm done with at some point I just delete it.

>>106200498
>distrobox
Sounds cool, might give that a try too.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:28:09 PM No.106201566
>>106201484
>You can't justify them breaking things by saying it needs to be done, not unless you're advocating for them breaking the X11 protocol entirely.
I can and I do. The problem is only in your head.
Replies: >>106201612
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:34:02 PM No.106201611
>>106201518
Tested it on Artix, just works, Nvidia 's not a big problem also.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:34:14 PM No.106201612
>>106201566
Well that's fine for you, it's not fine for the people that want a working X11 Server though. That's why you're seeing so many objections and reverts lately of the broken code that made its way to X.org.
X.org is still used today in legacy deployments and they cannot be broken.

I think it will be a tall order to fix X11 though. Do you really think they'll be able to pull off all of the breaking changes they'll need to make? It seems odd to on the one hand want X11 but on the other hand not have any of the historical compatibility. Why not improve Wayland instead of breaking X.org more?
Replies: >>106201651 >>106201880
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:37:46 PM No.106201651
>>106201612
>Why not improve Wayland instead of breaking X.org more?
Probably because they don't want to spend two years explaining the usecase for a feature that every other display server has had for 20 years to some giga autist maintainer
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:58:16 PM No.106201808
>>106199043
Help me plzzz
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:06:59 PM No.106201880
>>106201612
And what was the point of creating Wayland instead of fixing Xorg? That's called having an alternative.
Replies: >>106201906 >>106202300
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:08:17 PM No.106201891
just really enjoy gnome lads
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:09:46 PM No.106201906
>>106201880
It's a different fundamental design. You can't make X11 modular like Wayland is. It's a much more minimal design designed to be more maintainable and more extendable.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:25:34 PM No.106202034
do snapshots rape your write amplification?
Replies: >>106202165
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:39:35 PM No.106202165
>>106202034
Not necessarily. They will use metadata though and if you make a stupid amount of them then you may find this balooning. For normal use it should be fine though.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:52:44 PM No.106202300
>>106201880
Because nothing actually uses X11 except the input and window positioning parts. Every modern X native program uses randr to dump pixels inside window borders, and randr is the thing causing all the problems.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:56:27 PM No.106202333
>bazzite website looks professional
>nobaras looks amateur
Apart from that what's the difference between these 2 for a complete linux noob? Which one should I ditch W10 for?
Also does desktop environments matter for performance or is it just for visuals?
Replies: >>106202354 >>106202512 >>106203036
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:59:09 PM No.106202354
>>106202333
>for a complete linux noob
Bazzite. Nobara is more targeted at people that know what they're doing. It's made by the developer of a popular fork of Proton and much more experimental.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:00:44 PM No.106202368
file
file
md5: 44034dbb98f4c5659d88f890b39f6ed6🔍
Can I ask, how much should one commit to privacy? Like, do you straight up use Tor without bookmarks or javascript for every single browsing session or is the hardcore advice just for sensitive activities?
Replies: >>106202390 >>106202424 >>106202815 >>106203036 >>106204004
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:03:22 PM No.106202390
>>106202368
If you're a normal person, then any more than is convenient is a waste of time. If you're a literal pedophile, then nothing is too much.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:06:37 PM No.106202424
>>106202368
If you care about privacy then you do not go on the Internet period. Maybe go out and live in a cabin in the woods if you're committed.

It's not feasible to both care about privacy and use the Internet anymore. You can care, but you're still going to use all of the data harvesting services anyway. You're on 4chan right now which requires proprietary JavaScript and is fronted via Cloudflare that serves yet more proprietary JavaScript and whose captcha service cannot be solved without it (You could buy a pass with crypto though and then posting without JavaScript may be feasible but I don't think most people are going to do that)
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:16:07 PM No.106202512
>>106202333
Bazzite's site's freezy as fuck, Nobara's not. Looks like an obvious choice to me.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:42:39 PM No.106202815
>>106202368
You can't have anonymity with javascript enabled, and every normal website needs javashit now. Just focus on not volunteering information, ie don't use your Google credentials to log into other sites, use Firefox with uBlock. Don't engage with privacy theater bs. It only increases your device fingerprint.

The only way to have strong anonymity on an indefinite time frame is to make a couple friends who aren't retards or feds and all use the same privacy network, and even then only use in-network services / no html pages with javascript.
Replies: >>106202871 >>106204004
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:49:43 PM No.106202871
>>106202815
>Don't engage with privacy theater bs. It only increases your device fingerprint.
I'm guessing you mean it makes your device more unique so it narrows down who you are when it's detected? Wouldn't you still be better off than people who have Google everything?
Replies: >>106203226
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:50:52 PM No.106202882
>>106201211
It's fine to have multiple EFI system partitions but I don't think there's any consensus on where to mount them. Could do (/mnt)/efi1 and (/mnt)/efi2 case you just want them to show up somewhere on your filesystem tree.
>earlier install of rEFInd instead
>install
Getting a bit autistic here but there's not that much installing going on with rEFInd, all you got is the directory contents and a boot entry. You can move it around if you wish.
man efibootmgr
>>106201415
>just ssh into it and install it that way
In what way? There's an already established system on another PC and I wanted to copy it over.
Replies: >>106203102
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:08:40 PM No.106203036
>>106202333
>what's the difference between these 2 for a complete linux noob?
Bazzite is easier to use overall, mainly because it's set up better and it's updates never fuck things up. It's pretty much created for people who don't want their OS to be in the way of using applications and playing games.
Nobara often requires manual intervention when upgrading between it's major versions. If you're a complete noob, or if you don't want to turn updating your OS into a job, I'd recommend staying away from Nobara. It's not bad, but every 6-12 months you will need to consult their website/forum to figure out how to fix something that got broken by a system update.

>does desktop environments matter for performance or is it just for visuals?
If your computer has at least a dual core CPU and at least 4GB RAM you'll be fine on any DE. Anything other than KDE and GNOME is a meme, but both distros only ship with those two pre-installed so you have nothing to worry about.
Between the two, from my experience KDE was lighter. However, I haven't used GNOME in 3 years and apparently they've improved performance since then. If that's the case then either of the two will be fine.

>>106202368
>how much should one commit to privacy?
As long as you're not losing a relevant amount of time/money and are not majorly inconveniencing yourself.
For the most part the following should be enough:
>LibreWolf + uBlock Origin
>do not register to any websites or services. If you're locked out of content/features because you aren't registered, then create an account with an email alias and fake information
>when possible, use an open source frontend for websites (ie GrayJay/NewPipe for YT)
This should cover 99% of your worries. If you need more privacy you can:
>disable JS by default in uBlock Origin, then individually enable it for websites which need it
>use a VPN
>enable letterboxing in LibreWolf
Using Tor or Tails is too extreme unless you're actually doing something sketchy or you're paranoid.
Replies: >>106203107
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:17:53 PM No.106203102
>>106202882
i ended up removing the fstab entry for the partition on the usb stick and its working well now, i dont want grub on my system at all, just took a backup of the contents of it first
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:18:26 PM No.106203107
>>106203036
What does LibreWolf offer that base Firefox with privacy settings enabled doesn't?
Replies: >>106203150 >>106204004
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:22:44 PM No.106203150
>>106203107
Convenience
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:29:54 PM No.106203226
>>106202871
Yes but stop there. Don't install ebin Firefox fork of the week, or 80 different privacy add-ons which will make you distinct from the other guy with only 79.
Replies: >>106204004
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:36:14 PM No.106203301
I wish I were a girl, how do you anons cope with not being female
Replies: >>106203340 >>106203359
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:39:50 PM No.106203340
>>106203301
>wanting to be a woman
GNU/NGMI
Replies: >>106203366
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:41:42 PM No.106203359
Linux PCs
Linux PCs
md5: 3a84ead220e51253e0dc95aa7434e673🔍
>>106203301
Replies: >>106203429 >>106203988 >>106204807 >>106204855
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:42:27 PM No.106203366
>>106203340
Why would you not want to be female, it's the superior gender
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:46:48 PM No.106203410
>>106192279 (OP)
I have a 4090 i use on linux, it works fine except for issues with sleep/hibernation
I ordered an RX6400 so i can pass my 4090 into a windows vm for gaming ( i know linux is great for most gaming now, but not for all i want it to do)

I figured out that hdmi 2.1 is not supported on linux because of the hdmi forum is being a bunch of shits, but i want to use my RX6400 on my s90d tv which only has hdmi ports.
I see some people are using dp to hdmi 2.1 adapters which apparently works, but doesn't suppoert VRR (in some cases it does but has troubles and needs special drivers)
I don't care about vrr since i only want to use the rx6400 for my desktop output, but i need it to output at 4k 120hz and 4:4:4. Does the adapter need to be some special type that can comunicate in a special way with an amd card since amd doesn't support hdmi 2.1? or can i use any adapter that claims it can output from dp to hdmi 2.1?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:48:31 PM No.106203429
>>106203359
first one is very bauhaus
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:49:51 PM No.106203448
ive literally only used linux to rice my desktop, what else can i do with it bros?
Replies: >>106203458 >>106203611 >>106203988
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:51:08 PM No.106203458
>>106203448
play games or some shit
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:58:21 PM No.106203515
Don't know if this is the right place to ask but I'm trying to make my own copy of dwm and I'm confused in regards to the personal access tokens.

They've changed the permission section in the last few months apparently and now I don't know what permissions to select. The first three options seem to do nothing and I assume I need to specify the permissions on the bottom of the page.

Just wanna push to my public repo...
Replies: >>106203562
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:03:03 PM No.106203562
>>106203515 (me)
And I entirely forgot to mention that I'm talking about github here.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:07:21 PM No.106203598
I guess I formatted a partition that had my boot data on it and now when I startup my pc I go to BIOS and no bootable devices are detected.
How would I fix this? Do I need to just full reinstall my distro?
Replies: >>106203866 >>106203889
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:08:54 PM No.106203611
>>106203448
Neovim
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:26:32 PM No.106203764
013449756
013449756
md5: 1e3461d1f8291214af0f87e3990632e2🔍
I'm at my wits end. I'm trying to get my dual boot system running how I want it for a while now ever so often it just doesn't post anymore. Fans spin, boot light on but nothing else. I can remove every additional drive and device connected and it doesn't boot.
What always fixes it is disconnecting the power and pressing the power button a bunch of times, then trying again.
But I'm just stumbling in the dark, I wish I knew more about this side of things.
I did the thing you shouldn't do that is installing Linux first then Windows on a second drive. I dread to format everything and try again but I might just have to do that...
Replies: >>106203927
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:37:41 PM No.106203866
>>106203598
Look at how to install grub. Reinstalling your distro works as well but it isn't necessary.
Replies: >>106205132
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:40:06 PM No.106203889
>>106203598
boot a liveusb
create a boot partition
copy the files or use the installers advanced option to only write grub
check & edit, so that the entries matches your root (/) partition and other details
mount the root partition add mountpoint in fstab
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:43:33 PM No.106203927
>>106203764
The logs are your friend. Journalctl offers most of what you'll need if your os uses systemd(most do)
You can trim the logs length with from-until parameters as well, just check the help section.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:45:16 PM No.106203946
12363
12363
md5: 26931d6fee8c7d4f659084a607ab60bf🔍
>want to do something on Linux
>look up how to do it
>every post is written in awful ESL English
>all the advice is contradictory, including about whether the desired outcome is even possible on Linux
>someone pastes a script where half the commands are redundant if you actually know what they do
>someone else provides terminal commands that cannot be copy-pasted in one go, because they are interspersed with "and then you enter sudo nano /etc/im/retarded/and/gay and set COCKS=unsucked to sucked" because they're too stupid to know what sed or tee are
>fuck it, I'll try to figure it out myself
>the exact same two-click GUI solution I used on Windows also comes preinstalled on every distro
Why the fuck are Linuxtards like this? Every fucking problem I've had was solved just by trusting my gut in the end. Linux is so fucking simple and convenient yet the userbase is seemingly out to convince you that this is not the case.
Replies: >>106204044
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:49:21 PM No.106203988
>>106203359
yeah pretty much

>>106203448
It's a general purpose operating system. You can use it for whatever you want.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:51:28 PM No.106204004
>>106202368
>>106202815
>>106203226
All this fingerprint is anonymity mehh, for privacy there is nothing wrong with having noncaching proxy and strict noscript default, as base.

>>106203107
Firefox privacy settings does very little, librewolf edits the settings so you could it yourself i guess.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:55:33 PM No.106204044
1727195386149943
1727195386149943
md5: 57f527a5be8879286e8a85b6d4178ac8🔍
>>106203946
>look for a "guide"
>read kumar pajeet's posts
>its a whole load of bullshit
>how could this be
also GUIs arent universal so people can only rely on commands for something that'll work on every pc or else they'll have to tell you to install X or Y GUIs, and you'll end up installing all of them in the end if you follow that path
Replies: >>106204097 >>106204107 >>106204137 >>106204176
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:01:17 PM No.106204097
>>106204044
>also GUIs arent universal
Unless you are running headless, I'm certain every distro, display server, and desktop environment can download a specific utility.
Replies: >>106204176
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:02:18 PM No.106204107
>>106204044
>people can only rely on commands
Also, this falls apart when the commands either don't work because Kumar is a fucking idiot, or Kumar doesn't even put sed or tee commands into his script because he's a fucktard.
Replies: >>106204176
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:06:35 PM No.106204137
>>106204044
>GUIs arent universal
Let's stop pretending that anything other than KDE and GNOME is relevant.
Replies: >>106204176
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:08:30 PM No.106204161
I keep a sort of film diary where I write thoughts about the movies I watch and add pics of shots I liked. Back on Windows I used Obsidian to write the md files, but since I'm on linux now, I'm looking for a FOSS alternative. Any ideas on what to use?
Replies: >>106204174
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:09:32 PM No.106204174
>>106204161
Obsidian is on Linux
Replies: >>106204201
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:09:39 PM No.106204176
>>106204044
True, each time i websearch something specific i get indian shit results that has less info than man-pages to begin with.
Couldn't they just stick stackoverflow or some other shit site.

>>106204097
>>106204107
>>106204137
lol, you really eager to bait or something..
Replies: >>106204196 >>106204243
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:11:18 PM No.106204196
>>106204176
Motherfucker, read the King James Bible; only then should you resume posting in English.
Replies: >>106204250
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:11:31 PM No.106204201
>>106204174
I know, but it isn't really free software, is it?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:12:16 PM No.106204206
Is there a simple way to install Chrome on Arch?
Replies: >>106204236 >>106204326 >>106204526
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:16:59 PM No.106204236
>>106204206
Get it from the Chaotic AUR; it's a repo of prebuilt AUR packages.
The instructions to enable the repo are here: https://aur.chaotic.cx/docs
Replies: >>106204526
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:17:45 PM No.106204243
>>106204176
now on top of pajeet garbage there are chatgpt posts which are just as worthless
looking at man pages and tldr.sh is far less time consuming at this point
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:18:13 PM No.106204250
666
666
md5: 2b9d8c400d1a2de3c0eba10e7ca5d8cb🔍
>>106204196
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:27:25 PM No.106204326
>>106204206
https://flathub.org/
Replies: >>106204345 >>106204526
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:29:11 PM No.106204345
>>106204326
>by Google (Unverified)
Nice rootkit.
Replies: >>106204368 >>106204526
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:31:14 PM No.106204364
>>106194840
Running an @world upgrade myself.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:31:24 PM No.106204368
>>106204345
What makes you think the AUR is verified by Google?
Replies: >>106204526
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:33:10 PM No.106204383
>>106195485
Just use ZRAM, it's a compressed swap disk in RAM, it's all you need.
Unless you need the suspend feature for whatever reason, then you need an extra swap file.
Replies: >>106204433
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:37:36 PM No.106204433
>>106204383
Wait is zram not compatible with sleep?
Replies: >>106204510
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:41:33 PM No.106204469
1732913902265
1732913902265
md5: 7c839bcd3127464ea0dfcc320362c6ff🔍
I think I'm going to wipe my endeavour install for Fedora. I dual boot windows for gaymin with my friends and with more games looking to implement this mandatory SecureBoot shit, having a distro that can easily work with SB seems convenient. Looking at the process to do self signing seems like a huge pain in the ass.
Replies: >>106204487 >>106204524
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:42:50 PM No.106204487
>>106204469
>gaymin
>secure boot
>Fedora
https://bazzite.gg/
Replies: >>106204522 >>106204685
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:44:47 PM No.106204510
>>106204433
it is, he probably means hibernate which consists in unloading all your ram into your disk and if you dont have swap then the ram has nowhere to go
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:46:04 PM No.106204522
>>106204487
I used bazzite before I settled on endeavour. Couldn't get my VPN working nicely and I found that when I broke things they were extra hard to fix because there was way less material on immutable distros. Any time I wanted to do anything that wasn't gaming and didn't have a flatpak available I found it to be a tremendous pain in the ass.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:46:08 PM No.106204524
>>106204469
Could just do what Fedora and others do: use Shim. Self signing is a fancier trick but idk if anyone's automated it so it's kind of a neckbeard option.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:46:10 PM No.106204526
>>106204206
>>106204236
>>106204326
>>106204345
>>106204368
There's a very simple solution to this

1. Open a web browser
2. Download an ISO of a real distro
3. Install that distro
4. Navigate to google.com/chrome and download a deb/rpm for your distro

Alternatively if Chromium is good enough, you can get that as a snap.
Replies: >>106204581
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:52:10 PM No.106204578
19875210_157010061511154_7456237308354119587_n
19875210_157010061511154_7456237308354119587_n
md5: 811ebadf185e3e225754bd6cf2eed158🔍
>fresh install of fedora
>install btrfs-assistant
>create config with default settings
>save
>restart
>stuck on boot
How the fuck do distros with automatic snapshotting make it work?
Replies: >>106204853 >>106205366 >>106205518
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:52:47 PM No.106204581
>>106204526
>download deb/rpm
Pointless when Chrome exists on Flathub.
Replies: >>106204641
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:56:57 PM No.106204609
What's the paint of linux?
Replies: >>106204615 >>106204641
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:57:34 PM No.106204615
>>106204609
KolourPaint
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:00:59 PM No.106204641
>>106204581
but then you gotta deal with flatpaks
>>106204609
i like pinta
Replies: >>106204655
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:03:00 PM No.106204655
>>106204641
>gotta deal with flatpaks
what does this even mean
Replies: >>106204668
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:04:02 PM No.106204666
>>106194624
From the thumbnail I thought this was a meme of RMS holding a rifle with optics
Replies: >>106204747
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:04:04 PM No.106204668
>>106204655
Please don't play a fool.
Replies: >>106204712
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:06:02 PM No.106204685
>>106204487
You're probably the same faggot who was shilling cosmic for months until alpha dropped and it was so unusable you realized how much time of your life you wasted shilling that piece of crap and never mentioned it again.
Replies: >>106204712
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:08:15 PM No.106204712
>>106204668
So, literally nothing? You just don't like flatpaks for no *real* reason?

>>106204685
Meds, take them.
Replies: >>106204727
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:09:20 PM No.106204725
>>106197011
Runs like a champ on my i3. Sounds like a skill issue
Replies: >>106204755
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:09:29 PM No.106204727
>>106204712
I will give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you are unaware of:
>up to 6x larger filesizes
>up to 6x longer startup times
>up to 10% less performance
Replies: >>106205169
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:11:35 PM No.106204747
1685750575478092
1685750575478092
md5: 488339a3be3d9bc780431e89defdfec1🔍
>>106204666
I dunno which one you're talking about but I have this one
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:12:36 PM No.106204755
>>106204725
i3 uses x11
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:16:44 PM No.106204788
Stone
Stone
md5: fdeb10a8b529bdfa2b245670bf6eab4d🔍
>>106198098
Holepunches are bloat. Just etch your code into stone tablets with a chisel.
Replies: >>106204808
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:19:24 PM No.106204807
>>106203359
Left out Mini PCs
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:19:28 PM No.106204808
>>106204788
this code isnt very portable
Replies: >>106204821
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:21:20 PM No.106204821
>>106204808
But you can build muscle with it and become strong stone programmer.
Replies: >>106204845
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:24:32 PM No.106204845
>>106204821
>strong programmers make strong code
at last i truly see
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:25:34 PM No.106204853
>>106204578
By understanding their early boot process.
Replies: >>106205366
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:25:46 PM No.106204855
>>106203359
Make this the next OP image
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:50:20 PM No.106205069
>>106170513
i want to record a multi-track song idea so i downloaded Reaper but none of the available "audio devices" work. I only have an USB "Samsom" mic with no audio interface plugged in, is it mandatory to use an audio interface to use reaper? I just wanted to record a simple idea
Replies: >>106205255
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 10:58:23 PM No.106205132
>>106203866
Is grub universal between all distros? I was running bazzite and it doesnt have a proper liveusb. Could I just fix it from a ubuntu liveusb?
Replies: >>106205244
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:03:09 PM No.106205169
>>106204727
Unless you're on a raspberry PI or a similar giga-budget device, none of this matters.

>up to 6x larger filesizes
The extra storage used is literally a drop in the bucket, it's irrelevant. In the absolute worst case scenario you need a maximum of 25GB of shared dependencies for 100+ flatpaks.
Not to mention this is an invalid measurement. Yes, if you just install 1 flatpak it will pull the 600-800MB flatpak runtime because that's what's being used as the "OS" the app is running on. But the next 50 apps you install will usually use the same runtime. So if all you use are flatpaks you're barely "losing" any storage. And you're only "losing" storage on apps which use different versions of dependencies. Which is the price you have to pay for compatibility, as these dependencies are determined by devs/maintainers.
At the end of the day each flatpak app uses an identical amount of storage as the "native" app. The only difference is that flatpaks allow there to be multiple runtimes (OS versions) and multiple dependency versions. A dozen GBs of extra storage (in total) is absolutely worth it to have a universal format which literally "just works".
If this bothers you then you might as well complain about needing an operating system at all, instead of just using your apps on raw hardware.

>up to 6x longer startup times
That sounds like a lot, but in reality it's just 0.5-3 extra seconds.

>up to 10% less performance
Again, key word is "up to". In general there's no performance impact, but it depends on the app.

I mean, I understand if you're a minimalist and flatpaks aren't for you, but they've clearly solved software packaging and distribution on Linux (which has been a huge pain point for both developers and users).
Flatpaks are very likely going to become the standard way of software distribution. Instead of crying about it, you should invest your time either into improving them or making a better alternative if you think you know how it should be done.
Replies: >>106205320
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:12:51 PM No.106205244
>>106205132
> I was running bazzite and it doesnt have a proper liveusb
I believe you can just use it's installer USB and instead of selecting "Install Bazzite" go down to "Rescue a Bazzite system" (3rd option). A similar option should also be available somewhere in their installer too.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:14:03 PM No.106205255
>>106205069
Use a patchbay like Helvum, Coppwr or Qjack
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:14:32 PM No.106205262
New thread >>106205258
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:24:34 PM No.106205320
>>106205169
That's a wall of mental gymnastics. Some do not want to pay the price for flatpaks when there are alternatives.
It isnt that hard to get, is it?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:29:15 PM No.106205366
>>106204578
>>106204853
>initramfs black magic
just boot a plain old EXT4 root without initramfs lmao
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:39:13 PM No.106205461
>>106194624
stop making him look like a hamster.. he okay? how's the cancer shit going?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:44:14 PM No.106205518
>>106204578
I set up grub-btrfs, timeshift and a pacman hook, it just works
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:48:13 PM No.106205564
scottishpepe
scottishpepe
md5: 57363b00d3b2860278443d49554cba92🔍
stallman must be thin as fuck rn...

don't die you asshole answer for your crimes that is emacs...
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:51:31 PM No.106205605
Screenshot from 2025-08-09 23-50-27
Screenshot from 2025-08-09 23-50-27
md5: 513aadd04e6e5888b3d14925340558e2🔍
nvim vs emacs cancer vs colera
here is my emacs

nvim and emacs is all garbage the debuggin.. lol...

whoever tries to chill either is a javascrip "developer" or a tourists
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:51:32 PM No.106205607
debian13
debian13
md5: 5dd5dfef4a314a0a7507eb095ce7bd60🔍
Debian 13 is new stable..
Replies: >>106205809
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:15:52 AM No.106205809
fbi
fbi
md5: 689c855b18c7a6242348d50bcc48ce9d🔍
>>106205607
lol.. no thank you .... I won't have anything to with some unclassief sister fucker distro...
Replies: >>106206097
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:17:26 AM No.106205822
pretty sure is illegal to run software made by pedophlies here in norway... fix your shit debian...
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:29:04 AM No.106205923
>>106198594
nta but i had extreme compatibility problems with fedora and rpmfusion in fedora 41. I know you won't believe me, and will hand wave it away, but it's true none the less
Replies: >>106206134
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:49:37 AM No.106206097
sksmskak
sksmskak
md5: e103e9222939b396242d617628544189🔍
>>106205809
Wut?
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:54:15 AM No.106206134
>>106205923
like?
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:55:15 AM No.106206145
>>106206097
you haven't heard`?.. anon there is a convicted sexoffender called jeremy bicha on the debian team... we're not talking about some common rapist, but a convicted p***** he raped his sister among other things a billion times...

so
https://x.com/LundukeJournal/status/1944769717371040085

is not like rumours or anything, this guy is a convicted... serial pedophile.. and they let him go on ...

I am pretty sure it's illegal to haev pedo software here in norway...
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:56:37 AM No.106206159
>>106206097
go check it up in the police records in florida anon jeremy bicha... I want to die...
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:00:21 AM No.106206198
keep convicted sexoffenders out of shit please!

if he had just murdered someone with and icepick nobody would have cared, but sex off.. of the worst sort, raped his own sister.. I am about to puke! 9 year old....


REEEEE
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:05:31 AM No.106206261
Screenshot from 2025-08-10 01-04-53
Screenshot from 2025-08-10 01-04-53
md5: 65894adc808027288601b4cbf73a7646🔍
here is jeremy bicha
go read it your self....

take a bucket next to you... vomit will come...
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:08:18 AM No.106206282
Screenshot from 2025-08-10 01-07-45
Screenshot from 2025-08-10 01-07-45
md5: 0bc7d98b3be30dab07d076ad4c32b270🔍
>>106206097
he raped his own sister among other things.... debian go is fine...
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:09:58 AM No.106206294
>>106206097
they even let him held a speech recently anon I am about to puke and rake at the same time....
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:11:00 AM No.106206307
is not some gossip oh I don't like him so he's a homo or something, no he is a convicted pedophile... sisterfucker to be precicew is why so many of us here are up in arms... .